Saturday, May 23, 2026

Emile Durkheim: Sociology, Suicide, and the Nature of Religion

Social Ecosystem: environment, population, technology, and social organization


Religion - "A unified system of beliefs and practices relative to sacred things, that is to say, things set apart and forbidden- beliefs and practices which unite in one single moral community called a Church, all those who adhere to them."
-Emile Durkheim

57 comments:

  1. //...and you know how much I love psychohistory (Harry Seldon - Seldon Plan in Asimov's "Foundation".)

    But... dislike Asimov himself. Yawn.
    As he was VERY carefull with backgrounding this his ideas, and even stepoed back from em in his later works

    //Qualia from Quanta

    Just an illusion. Yawn.

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    1. \\That's what ALL "meaning" is. An illusion.

      Brick falling on your head -- illusion too(if you'd ignore safety nets of technologies)???

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    2. Technologies are the 2nd path to avoiding civilizational collapse... but they tend to expand the division of labour (as and decrease the proportions of shared collective consciousness). In other words, they individuate members of the tribe, and when they DO act together, it is as "Mass" men, hypnotized/ mesmerized by a leader. The horde leader.

      In other words, safety net for "fragility".

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  2. //Responded elsewhere. I still don't understand what definition of Turchin's you're comparing to...

    Best real world example -- genome duplication.
    Works exactly by his scheme.
    First, as the name states -- just a dumb doubling (Quanta).
    And only then mutation of spare genes for othe uses.

    Plus.

    That is example to my motto... remember? "ancient wisdoms tend to grow imprecise and even outdated, with time

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    1. As... "ancients" is not dumb per se
      They just lacking some recent knowlage, have had LESS time to come to conclusions. Less incentive to look more closely, because that... was not posing a problem, in THEIR time

      Which m#ans -- that from my side that us not pure disregard to their wisdom and effort.

      Just a (clever? ;-p) pointing out to a nature of things.

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    2. So it IS good to change one's mind. To "evolve" to meet the challenges of an altered "frame" (environment).

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    3. "Intelligence is a fixed goal with variable means of achieving it" - William James

      ...because sometimes the problem's "framing" (circumstance) is different.

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    4. It's good... but sometimes -- too hard

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    5. As in that post about Bizantine -- sometimes it's easier to die... to reborn as something else.

      Yawn.

      And you known what makes it so?
      Reforms, new techs... started too late. ;-p
      (and in case of USA... due diligance in that matters -- long as past)

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    6. Byzantium did get reborn. As feudalism. Just as capitalism has been reborn as technofeudalism. Complexity within Simplicity. Which guild will you support?

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    7. And when will the commonly shared information of the post-wwii society get walled off, nationalized/ privatized to serve as collections of normal science for the revolutionary science needed for Shanzhai development instead of IP restricted information? The "complexity" within the technofeudal "simplicity". Are you Ready, Player 1?

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    8. The internet isn't regulated? What's your protocol? I used to be a Jughead, Archie, and Veronica guy... before html.

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  3. sorry for mistypings

    speeding to post while "pre-censure" not working

    yawn

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    1. It is the EU DSA. The censors are using ActiveFence's "ALICE" AI tools. All that Ukraine War Disinfo, you know...

      Google AI:

      alice activefence DSA:
      Alice (formerly ActiveFence) provides comprehensive tools and runtime controls designed to help digital platforms meet compliance requirements under the European Union's Digital Services Act (DSA).

      How Alice Enforces DSA Compliance

      The platform ensures compliance across several core mandates established by the Digital Services Act (DSA):

      Risk Mitigation for Minors: The DSA mandates that digital platforms assess and mitigate systemic risks to younger users. Alice provides real-time content moderation and protective guardrails to keep child-facing environments safe from harmful content.

      Algorithmic Safety: The EU framework heavily scrutinizes risks introduced by AI-driven content generation and algorithmic distribution. Through its WonderFence product, Alice reviews incoming prompts and outgoing AI responses to block policy or compliance violations instantly.

      Audit Readiness & Evidentiary Logging: Platforms must prove they are proactively monitoring and mitigating risk to European authorities. Alice automatically creates full audit trails and logs every single policy decision to maintain constant regulatory compliance.

      Multilingual Protection: The DSA applies across all EU member states. Alice tracks threats across more than 20 languages to accommodate regional and cultural safety nuances.

      System Rebranding Notice

      If you are looking for older compliance documentation or case studies, note that the company officially rebranded from ActiveFence to Alice in January 2026. All underlying trust, safety tools, and systemic integration remain fully active under the new Alice Enterprise Platform.

      If you would like to know more, let me know if you want to explore Alice's specific pricing tiers, details on their WonderSuite integration, or a direct breakdown of DSA requirements for Very Large Online Platforms (VLOPs).

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    2. Isn't West are UNITED... in that matters?

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    3. They were, back when NED was pushing the nations of the world into instituting COVID style censorship. But it's post-COVID now. COVID was a PsyOp created in a USAID funded Chinese Biolab.

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    4. The furin cleavage site was made in the good ole USA. The same site that invented Lyme disease in order to crash the Cuban agricultural economy back in the 60's.

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    5. The DSA was a NED- USAID funded operation cooked up at Langley to get the world to institute censorship laws and subvert the US 1st amendment.

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    6. How? By taking advantage of the "Minority Rule" Nassim Taleb.

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    7. Whatever.

      You talking about in such a way, like that is VERY FIRST AND ONLY situation, when some schemmers, scammers and shadow dealers trying to do something to this World to gain power...

      Ya-a-a-a-awn.

      They do it ALL of the time.

      Starting from that ancient times when language appeared. And so some smarty tricky ones (like Tom Soyer ;-p), found that they can use mere words ti trick people into doing what they like...

      Go re-read some kings and cabbage. Go re-read som Mark Twain

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    8. I have. It's called "The Alchemy of Finance" by George Soros. Why care about truth if you can trick everyone into believing a falsehood? And why make it hard for them to do so?

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    9. I prefer something a bit more protreptic and meant to Enlighten individuals so as to not rely upon their "betters" (ala Gyges).

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  4. //Jeff Bezos DOESN'T want my money? Who knew?

    And who cares about what he want???

    Little Prince's King -- and WHO cares about HIS wants??? ;-p
    (and HE foolly aware of it)

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    1. Jack's Magic Coffee shop works with/ for Jeff. Which explains why the bots love my blog (enforcing ActiveFence)

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    2. from Google AI:

      . AI Safety & Content Moderation
      Google uses automated alignment and safety filters in conversational AI tools like Gemini.

      Retroactive Scanning: These bots perform safety checks on both active prompts and historical chat logs to ensure they comply with the latest anti-abuse, violence, and hate-speech protocols.

      Prompt Injection Protection: Google employs automated agentic AI "red-teaming" bots. These bots actively hack into AI models to uncover vulnerabilities and defend against malicious indirect prompt injections.

      2. Website & Search Safety
      Google utilizes dedicated web-scraping bots to protect users from malicious online content.

      Malware Discovery: The Google-Safety user agent scans publicly posted links on Google properties for malware, phishing, and abuse.

      Safe Browsing: These security bots power Google's Safe Browsing Red Page warnings, which automatically flag and block users from accessing dangerous websites.

      3. Fraud and Bot Prevention
      To protect its ecosystem from malicious internet robots, Google relies heavily on advanced bot management.

      reCAPTCHA Enterprise: Google uses sophisticated risk-analysis telemetry to distinguish between legitimate human users and malicious automated scripts (e.g., credential-stuffers, scrapers, and account hijackers).

      Note: If you receive phone calls or emails claiming to be from a "Google Automated Security Bot" regarding account lockouts or suspicious logins, be cautious. Google rarely—if ever—initiates unsolicited automated calls, and these are highly likely to be scams. Always verify alerts natively by logging into your account via the Google Account Security Checkup page.</i<

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  5. //Jack's Magic Coffee shop works with/ for Jeff. Which explains why the bots love my blog (enforcing ActiveFence)

    Who cares?? Yawn

    You think they are free from what techs and circumstances demand?? And CAN push with their WILL alone??? %^))))

    Then... you got nothing from Lem's wisdom. And nothing from my talks about techs.((((

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    1. ...you can't push with a rope. Just ask the trojans who wheeled the horse inside their gates.

      Virtue cannot be taught. It's a habit.

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    2. That is all false knowlage. Sophistry. "Clever" tricks of mind-boggling peoples minds used by "those who know better" to control population.

      But, you are mistaken if you treat such my words as disregard. As some phony revolutionary disdain.
      Populace -- need to be controlled.

      It's just, not wirks on me. Not interesting. That's why I yawning.

      Yawn.

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  6. And who are "those who know better" to you?
    Some evil schemers behind the curtain?

    Think about this -- who are parents to their children? Aren't they are ones "who know better". ;-p

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    1. "The government is best that governs least." - Thoreau, "Civil Disobedience" (1849).

      Slavery abolished, 1865.

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  7. //Byzantium did get reborn. As feudalism.

    tsk-tsk-tsk... as asian despoty ;-p



    // Just as capitalism has been reborn as technofeudalism.

    Yeah. Mind-boggling bs those who know better want you to believe. Yawn.

    \\Complexity within Simplicity. Which guild will you support?

    But, you know the answer.

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    1. Yes, I do. Abolish taxes. The IRS Code (Income tax) became the carrot and stick method of controlling the people (Est, 1913). It's when the social engineering all began.

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    2. Come, work the techno-fields of Joe's Magic Coffee shop's server farm. Create Content for it. Perhaps you'll get a "tip". perhaps you'll receive nothing for you efforts. The Achievement Society needs "achievers"!

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  8. //Technologies are the 2nd path to avoiding civilizational collapse...

    Naaah. One and only.
    Civilization -- created by techs.
    And cannot exist without, as vertebrates CANNOT exist without their skeleton.



    // but they tend to expand the division of labour

    Sometimes yes, sometimes no.
    Depend on job position.
    Like astronauts, or soldiers -- neeed to fullfill several roles


    //(as and decrease the proportions of shared collective consciousness).

    Or... greatly increase individual mind capacity. ;-)
    Became smarter for simplicity.
    I know, I kniw -- that's so painfull. And undesirable. ;-p


    //In other words, they individuate members of the tribe, and when they DO act together, it is as "Mass" men, hypnotized/ mesmerized by a leader. The horde leader.

    Yeah. Stupid ones need mthose who know better". Need leaders.
    Yawn.

    //In other words, safety net for "fragility".

    "Freedom... as the toughest task"(c)
    Yawn.

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  9. /Civilization is the "too much" in meden agan. Culture, on the other IS meden agan. The only tech needed lies in the loom that is needed for "weaving the peplos"

    //The greater the division and quantities of labour, the greater the opportunities for injustice, the more powerful the Ring of Gyges (Plato, "Republic"). "Ban the Poets"!

    ///what good is an increased capacity for storing a single peanut?

    ////Does a hunter in a hunter-gatherer society need to understand non-organic chemistry? If he's too stupid to hunt, you make him a "gatherer", you don't assign him a "manager".

    /////...especially in a game of Jenga

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    1. btw - What purpose does your central technological quest serve? And why should anyone contribute to it? What is the "gift" and why does it surpass a "peplos"?

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    2. Conservative, n: A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal who wishes to replace them with others.
      - Ambrose Bierce

      ...like "technology".

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    3. I like Amby too... but here you cite him wrongly.

      Techs are beyond good and evil...

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    4. Such is the "banality" of evil (Hannah Arendt). Like Eichmann.

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    5. It can serve an evil system as faithfully as a good one.

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    6. It can enable a technofeudal system that destroys the free market.

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    7. ...or enable a cybersyn system (ala Chile under Allende). It doesn't care.

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    8. It differenciate what possible from what not. Evil "technofeudal system that destroys the free market" -- not possible. Yawn.
      That is purely a fata-morgana of propaganda.(very similar to propaganda of commu:ism, to boot)

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