Saturday, February 11, 2023

Wolfram on Chat GTP

Is ChatGTP the Guattarian paralogical nomadology of language par excellence?  7 layers of cortex abstraction and deterritorialization in computer or human brain's Neural Rhizome.  A Schizoanalysis.

from Wikipedia:

Deleuze and Guattari write in the fourth chapter of Anti-Oedipus, "Introduction to Schizoanalysis", that in effect, schizoanalysis asks "What are your desiring-machines, what do you put into these machines, what is the output, how does it work, what are your nonhuman sexes?".

Deleuze and Guattari develop four theses of schizoanalysis:
Every unconscious libidinal investment is social and bears upon a socio-historical field. 
Unconscious libidinal investments of group or desire are distinct from preconscious investments of class or interest. 
Non-familial libidinal investments of the social field are primary in relation to familial investments. 
Social libidinal investments are distinguished according to two poles: a paranoiac, reactionary, fascisizing pole and a schizoid revolutionary pole.

130 comments:

  1. And you like it,,, isn't it? ;-P

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  2. No... that talks about libido-things. ;-P

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  3. Sorry, was just speculating in my head about the utility of ChatGTP for perhaps performing something akin to a schizoanalysis. The results would reflect a General libido from the source material, but not a singular author's subjective libido (as it was assembled by a computer) biasing the result. Like instead of doing a psychohistory on an individual based upon a psychoanalysis of an individual, you could do one on a particular society or subsystem component of it (ie- The American Legal System) (to Psychoanalyze social systems instead of specific individuals, one reactionary, another revolutionary).

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  4. Wolfram's description of how ChatGTP works kinda reminded me of one. A Deterritorialization/Nomadization (Deleuze & Guattari) through difference/ repetition. A kind of paralogism (a piece of illogical or fallacious reasoning, especially one which appears superficially logical or which the reasoner believes to be logical.)... but w/o the libidinal component.

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  5. Well, Ok. I will throw in some of my thoughts here.

    I am interested in History, you know.

    And one of the most crucial qestionin it -- it's relation between person of a leader... and historical process in masses.
    Which you call "psycho-history" in USA. Koined by Azimov, AFAIK?

    Well, question was -- not enough actual information for research.

    As most of historical events... they are history, already.
    And most of viable info was either lost, or was mystified/demystified since.

    But.

    Recent events allowed to fill-in the gaps.

    And well... all is quite simple.

    Like.

    1) Obviously, leaders do not come by themself -- there need to be wide acceptance of em in masses.
    But, HOW??? How it works

    and

    2) Prsonality of Putin revealed it -- through idealistic perception of children...

    that then grow out into adults... and then into alfrts... who then take control over government.

    It is beyond obvious -- with current gerontocracy of RFia today -- that is generation of children of post-WW2 USSR.
    To which figure of Stalin and his murderous policies -- was only natural thing.

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  6. I was thinking more about why the tech censorship they're attempting to impose doesn't really work. It doesn't address the libidinal component. It just pisses people off and makes them revolutionaries.

    But you're right, there was once a famous study of Hitler and the rise of fascism in Germany and the "sleep walkers" of citizens.

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  7. And I think psychohistory existed before Asimov wrote about it. My college history professor was a leading member of a psychohistory group of Freudians in NYC.

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  8. I better enjoyed Prof. Szaluta's actual psychohistories, to his textbook.

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  9. Tech got personality. Personality goes it's own way. ;-P So to say. ;-)


    But... hardly you'd be interested to know more about History... History of Technologies. ;-)

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  10. A lot of what Slavoj Zizek does comes from analysing films. His "Pervert's Guide to Cinema" and "Pervert's Guide to Ideology" are but two examples.

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  11. So? Do films are authentic? Like that ancient writings? ;-P

    Or... something changing, from rewatching em? ;-)

    I saw Star Wars today... very different feelings they give.
    Like now I see where is decorations in it... magic of cinema, gone.

    Have you had similar experience... from a book?

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  12. Analyzing the film can tell you general things about societies. In that sense, they're authentic. They depict dreams/ wishes, aspirations of the people.

    Yeah, I say Start Wars for the first time at a matinee in a theater filled with children and families. It seemed pretty magic that first time, but you're right, the magic is largely absent now... especially with the new "woke" Star Wars spinoffs.

    My favorite book when I was a kid was about a hunter in Africa. Last week I was watching the 1923 series (part of the Yellowstone saga).

    For a long period of time, Cowboy movies were out of fashion. They're coming back bigtime. The Spirit of "rugged individualism" it (cowboy movies) depicted is making a comeback in America. It's about time.

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  13. Dreams and aspirations of the people. That is what most films are.

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  14. And those "woke" stories... nobody wants to go see them anymore. They're all just "magical negro" stories. Black Panther/Wakanda. Everyone's had their fill, except the woke.

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  15. ...although movies can pretty much just represent the dreams and aspirations of the woke elites who finance them too. But the "box office" from these movies seldom pay for them. So the market helps correct this "flaw".

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  16. Are you familiar with the "French New Wave" in the 50s/60s? It was an attempt for the French to break the Hollywood "formula" and allow the French to retain their cultural identity... just as your Ukrainian films seem to be trying to do the same.

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  17. \\especially with the new "woke" Star Wars spinoffs.

    No. That spinoffs is EXACTLY that magical as they should be.

    "Magic" of initial SW was exactly that that was seen as "plausible future". But today... it is not true, of course.

    Interesting thing -- Lem knew it even in that time. ;-P

    But... I was talking about *perception*. Each time you watching old movie -- you can see there something NEW... because of changes in yourself.
    But I never had such experience with books. That much.
    Interesting phenomena, isn't it?


    \\Cowboy movies were out of fashion.

    Well, my knowledge of it reduced to spagetti-western. And I doubt that that is comprehensive.

    \\They depict dreams/ wishes, aspirations of the people.

    Ehm???


    \\ just as your Ukrainian films seem to be trying to do the same.

    :-)))))))))))))))))

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  18. Hmmm. I don't often re-read books. But sometimes I re-read my own posts from the past... and can't even imagine what I was thinking about when I made the post.

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  19. Same as with legacy source code. ;-P That is known non-paradox. ;-P

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  20. I suppose it depends upon the level of abstraction.

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  21. Lately, I feel like I grown in not-understanding what that word "abstraction" even mean. :-(

    Take for example Derpy.
    That he is not judge, that's became obvious by now. But well, still, he seems like grown man, experienced and literate.

    But... level of his thoughts, demonstrated through his comments... is at the level of high-schooler. And that's at best.

    WHAT abstractions??? He have problems even with figural speaking and some more complex realities... of an adult world.

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  22. Dervy's no judge. He used to post as Dervish Sanders until another poster made guesses as to his real identity, and the person he had identified as Dervy was a real judge. So Dervy ran with it and adopted the false identity to mock that poster.

    No, Dervy isn't dumb, but he's a troll. I met him at a site full of trolls, and I trolled him into following me to my website. He still argues as a troll would. Never admit error, always double down on disproven arguments, never concede a point. If you want a real argument, your better off at Silverfiddles, or AoWs blogs, where there are a few "intellectually honest" leftists (not all of them, but some).

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  23. \\No, Dervy isn't dumb, but he's a troll.

    :-))))))))))))))))))))))))

    Yeah. And baby pony unicornes are nasty mutant aliens(tm) :-))))))))))))))

    Well. TC/Nigero at least tryed... but Derpy??? Naah. :-)))

    Derpy... is such a pussy.


    \\Never admit error, always double down on disproven arguments, never concede a point.

    That is just NORMAL person. In my experience. Which could be biased, yes. But that's all what I have. (shy)



    \\If you want a real argument, your better off at Silverfiddles, or AoWs blogs, where there are a few "intellectually honest" leftists (not all of them, but some).

    Thank you. But I'll postpone it for some later time... maybe.
    For now... I think I fed up with "intellectually honest leftists". Not in your blog. ;-P

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  24. Cryptic short comments.

    We are not on same wave, yet(?) To understand each other on a half-word. :-/

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  25. My comment above was intended for a different thread. Sorry for the @@

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  26. Did you saw it?

    Derpy is not that troll at all. He able to admit facts.

    Only... they must be VERY BASIC... and unrelated to Dem=propaganda.

    Means, he is just ordinary shithead... means his head filled with ordinary shit of propaganda. ;-P

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  27. ...and I just imagined that he was a sh*thead all along...

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  28. That is not XOR, that is AND. ;-P

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  29. Well... what do you think anout Derpy being revealed being trekki? ;-)

    How do you think, good stuff to troll him into oblivion?

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  30. He's extremely persistent. It's why I lured him over to Tealeaves. I'm a troll's troll. I attempt to engage and thereby neutralize the worst of the worst trolls, and dervy is one of them. He think's he's some kind of Left-wing "saint".

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  31. And I'm undigestable beatle. ;-P

    Pleased to meet you.

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  32. I'm honored... but most surely, that is misjudgment. ;-P

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  33. If that is attempt of badmouthing? (yawn)

    Or... that is again some cultural ref I cannot know meaning. Who knows what that "dung" mean??? Slang for "gold"? ;-P

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  34. Dross... is slang for gold... or at least the refining of it... (the part extracted [impurities] and thrown away).

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  35. Well... there is perfect ref... but sadly enough, it is unaccessible to you... beatle in the ants nest. :-(

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  36. Uneasy Beetle in the Ants Nest - by Arkady Strugatsky - Amazon UK
    www.amazon.co.uk › Uneasy-Beetle-Ants-Arka...
    Uneasy Beetle in the Ants Nest by Strugatsky, Arkady, Strugatsky, Boris (ISBN: 9785792100961)

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  37. Well... but that'll be MIScommunication. :-(((

    Do I really look to you... after half a year of communication... like some sneaky hunter, going slaughtering pray for no good reason??? :-((((((((

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  38. No, you seem like someone more in accord with the rogue leaders of the USA and their corporate masters than the people and workers of the USA.

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  39. ...who are advising/ warning you that they (the US leaders and corporate masters) are f'ing you and will 'f you HARD.

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  40. \\No, you seem like someone more in accord with the rogue leaders of the USA and their corporate masters than the people and workers of the USA.

    Thank you for spelling yourself that CORE of misunderstanding.

    Akin to stubborn nagging from Derpy -- that I, foreigner -- somehow are PRO-Trumpian MAGA-Republican from USA.
    Just because he... feels that way. %-)))

    Well... that is pretty much definition of what cognitive bias is. ;-P


    \\...who are advising/ warning you that they (the US leaders and corporate masters) are f'ing you and will 'f you HARD.

    Some comment missing?
    Because this one seems like semantically incomplete.

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  41. It goes with (follows) the comment above it (in the original).

    In summary: "The American workers/ people are advising/ warning the people of Ukraine (and Europe) the US leaders and their corporate masters are f'ing you and will 'f you HARD."

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  42. \\The American workers/ people...

    ...do know a zilch about History of Ukraine. ;-P

    10 million corpses. 10 F*G MILLIONS. Aren't it quite enough f*g???

    Go read Timoty Snider. Even if headlines.

    You trying to scare Crocodile Dundee(well, before he became famous as one) with: don't go out of water!!! You'd have a sunburns!!!!!1111 And blisters from not applying anti-UV oinment.
    While he brawling with his first croc under water.

    Can it be EVEN more rediculous???

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  43. Ukraine is NMP, American empire is. And since I'm against it (American Empire), the history of Ukraine is NMP.

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  44. Your "advice" is being heeded by the proponents of American Empire. The rest of us will we all we can to undermine it.

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  45. \\Ukraine is NMP, American empire is.

    You. Are. Not. An. Empire. Period.

    That is just phantome pains. ;-P


    \\And since I'm against it (American Empire), the history of Ukraine is NMP.

    Logic! :-)))


    \\The rest of us will we all we can to undermine it.

    Well... don Kihotian fit.


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  46. Ho-ho-ho... excellent story heard just now.

    About blonde bimbo... and her pet -- pyton. ;-P

    America and China?

    Or China and Rusha?

    Or, maybe, Europe and Rusha. :-)))

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  47. Know whay blonde jokes are so short? So brunettes can remember them.

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  48. :-))

    Joke was about blonde which came to a veterinary with his pet-pyton.
    Who stopped eating, and looks like became thinner.

    Veterinary answer was -- stop sleepping with him... as he just trying accomodate itself to your size... as a pray. ;-P

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  49. Woman is twice a pleasure to man,
    The wedding night and her funeral.


    Archilochus

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  50. But still... we need em to make children.

    And there's no other way. ;-P

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  51. Future is... foreign country. :-/

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  52. Fordism was the religion of Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World"... a book in which babies were made "a different way".... Decanted in baby factories on assembly lines.

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  53. Thank you.

    Yet one apparent cultural difference and misunderstanding. :-/

    And that's while I have read BNV.

    But I was unable to look at it that way.

    For me much more important was: stratification of socium into that deltas and gammas and etc, making em watch ads from wombs, and that pecular protaginist whipping himself.

    Another word, clearly across that cultural dividing lines -- where it obvious for USain, and pecular for outsider(s?).

    While idea of fetuses which mental capacity reduced by alcohol???

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  54. BNW was Huxley's Dystopia. Huxley's "Utopia" was the book "Island". Neither book has a "happy ending".

    I think Huxley's inspiration for BNW was Plato's "Philebus".

    John Savage's mistake (in the end) was in trying to find meaning in suffering. It was an answer to the wrong question. Philebus, IMO, supplies a "better" or more "correct" answer.

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  55. Isn't utopias long as revered as that Perpetuum Mobile in Physics?

    Or that is not as it is in USA?

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  56. No answer here?

    Or just another misunderstanding.

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  57. America, like all nations, is a heterotopia. We have "spaces" that are "less ideal" than others (Prisons, mental institutions).... for those who don't fit into our "achievement society".

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  58. ...for those "Bartleby's" who like to Tang Ping "Lay Flat/Plank"... ;)

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  59. My question was about percieving utopias as realistic.

    In my culture it isn't. By obvious reason. ;-P

    But... I know little about you culture. Or more like, I do not have a leacks for me to know about such intrinsic features.

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  60. No, I'm afraid most Americans believe in Utopias...

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  61. That is not utopia... that is, idealisation.

    Inevitable, or even mandatory. Like "All roads go to Rome".

    Something "everybody knows it".

    That is how Language works. ;-)

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  62. Otherwise... neutral example.

    How'd we know that 'dog'... that is that barking... ehm, entity?

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  63. But yeah. Politically. USA have problem with "image of the Future" today... but who haven't? Bushmen, maybe. But do you like to became bushman, to not have such problems? ;-P

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  64. Oh no, our "elites" live in gated communities and can ignore the problems of everyone else. Let Ukrainians die for my corporate dividends. Why should I care. :P

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  65. As for Bushmen, would those be George HW Bush men or George W Bush men? Cuz they're both kinda creepy. ;)

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  66. But... you can't ;-P

    We all was bushmen 10-20 thousand ears ago.
    Then, some smart-ass said -- let's go North ;-P
    After that cousines Neands ;-P
    Everything else... is the History now. :-)))

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  67. We're running out of North. Meden agan. Find the temperate zones. :)

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  68. For that... one would need tech(s).

    Or... just settle camping to watch how that glacias melting... that would not be for too long. ;-P

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  69. https://snyder.substack.com/p/the-folly-of-off-ramps

    https://snyder.substack.com/p/how-does-the-russo-ukrainian-war

    https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ukraine/ukraine-war-democracy-nihilism-timothy-snyder

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  70. Folly of off-ramps...

    vs folly of poking a nuclear power w/o any off-ramps.

    how the war ends...

    not with the magic of NATO hopium, THAT's for sure.

    democracy vs. nihilism

    what's democracy got to do with anything when youre really fighting FOR AUTHORITARIAN Capitalism. Democracy is dying, even in the USA, with every censored Tweet.

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  71. \\vs folly of poking a nuclear power w/o any off-ramps.

    yep. do not say "no" to a robberer with gun


    \\not with the magic of NATO hopium, THAT's for sure.

    NATO that is frontline/fronteer/beachhead of Pentagon. Period.


    \\what's democracy got to do with anything when youre really fighting FOR AUTHORITARIAN Capitalism. Democracy is dying, even in the USA, with every censored Tweet.

    Well... for "it", whatever you'd call it.
    To not die *literaly*.

    While, that's true, nobody died from Death... which is only figural. ;-P


    PS Well... it just happened for me to spot that links in one place. And I decided to gove em... as more proper English and closer culturaly...

    I was not very impressed by that rethoric in it myself, too.

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  72. How about this one?

    https://www.dailysignal.com/2023/03/23/questions-without-answers-about-ukraine

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  73. That is not about Ukraine... today. ;-P

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  74. Same way as ww2 was not about Jews.

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  75. \\How about this one?

    (after reading)

    Well???

    Why you are so inclined to push obvious foreigner to answer question of your own inner, sovereign politics???

    What good you seek from such answers?

    That, definitely, would be unwise and illinformed.

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  76. https://www.dailysignal.com/2023/03/28/america-is-in-a-new-cold-war-with-china/

    While appearing at a recent congressional hearing on China, former deputy national security adviser Matt Pottinger testified to what many in our political class have failed to acknowledge: Although America has long sought peace and cooperation with China, “it does us little good to repeat again and again that we aren’t seeking a new Cold War when the [Chinese Communist Party] has been stealthily waging one against us for years.”

    He is right. It is time to acknowledge a simple reality: The Chinese Communist Party, both through its words and actions, has made it clear that it intends to overtake the United States and restructure the global order in its image.

    The People’s Republic of China has viewed the U.S. as a strategic rival and long ago deployed cold war tactics against us, even as America opened its economy and its borders in a misguided engagement strategy.


    Meden agan? ;-P

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  77. Sea trade/transportation -- CHEAPEST.

    And as that is the main cog of modern economy.

    Making USA so wealthy and mighty.

    Wanna give it up??? China, Rusha, NK and all-all-all... would be only happy to see... and maybe give you a helping hand (as in that Japanese movies about suicidal samurais ;-P) in that your (non)honorable suicide.

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  78. https://www.foreignaffairs.com/united-states/xi-jinping-says-he-preparing-china-war

    Ta-dam!


    PS But no problem, they do prepare for a war with UA... not US. SARCASM!!!! ;-P

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  79. People like your Bolton... or gen. Miley... sound not that happy-go-lucky.

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  80. Finnaly! :-)) Seems I found a way how to fix my CRT. :-)))

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  81. /eople like your Bolton... or gen. Miley... sound not that happy-go-lucky.

    They're way too serious.

    eople like your Bolton... or gen. Miley... sound not that happy-go-lucky.

    You've been on a teletype this whole time? That's how I started out w/computers... playing Star Trek. ;)

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  82. \\They're way too serious.

    Maybe... just maybe, they know something?

    Like that... that Xi recently proclaimed to prepare for war. Nuclear War.

    Like that... that Putin's Propaganda, also recently, started pounding bout First Strike... because "there's only 600 targets for first strike in USA... meh, too easy", because "only 500 of em need to be Nuked... easy-peasy", and "we need to prepare to retaliation... but well, nothing biggy".



    \\You've been on a teletype this whole time? That's how I started out w/computers... playing Star Trek. ;)

    Nop. Just... that CRT is near, while flats far away.
    And well, it works. Only started glitching -- losing green component. Which can be restored (or not) with a smak. :-)))
    Oh, god bless old good tubes. ;-P
    Modern flats cannot be fixed THAT easy. :-)))
    Too damn fleamsy.

    Tnx for link (though Girhub would be better ;-P)
    But that is not my experience.
    Mine was King's Bouty and alike.
    Then Civ... of Sid Meier ;-P

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  83. \\They're way too serious.
    /Maybe... just maybe, they know something?
    Like that... that Xi recently proclaimed to prepare for war. Nuclear War.
    Like that... that Putin's Propaganda, also recently, started pounding bout First Strike... because "there's only 600 targets for first strike in USA... meh, too easy", because "only 500 of em need to be Nuked... easy-peasy", and "we need to prepare to retaliation... but well, nothing biggy".


    Maybe they should try injecting some objective distance into their problem instead of approaching it as a paranoiac fundamentalist fanatic. MASH Capt. Hawkeye Pierce instead of Maj. Frank Burns.


    \\You've been on a teletype this whole time? That's how I started out w/computers... playing Star Trek. ;)
    /Nop. Just... that CRT is near, while flats far away.
    And well, it works. Only started glitching -- losing green component. Which can be restored (or not) with a smak. :-)))
    Oh, god bless old good tubes. ;-P
    Modern flats cannot be fixed THAT easy. :-)))
    Too damn fleamsy.


    Yeah, I just use my laptop. It's got a few missing pixels, but it's not too bad. You should play Hack (or NetHack). That was always my favorite ASCII game on the old IBM AT/XTs... Graphics are over-rated (my son's company).


    Tnx for link (though Girhub would be better ;-P)
    But that is not my experience.
    Mine was King's Bouty and alike.
    Then Civ... of Sid Meier ;-P
    Now they made it even on the web ;-P


    Cool link. Like I said before, Graphics are over-rated. People who like them lack imagination. ;P

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  84. \\Maybe they should try injecting some objective distance into their problem instead of approaching it as a paranoiac fundamentalist fanatic. MASH Capt. Hawkeye Pierce instead of Maj. Frank Burns.

    And who won that war for you?


    \\You should play Hack (or NetHack).

    Uplink. ;-P
    And I have a bundle of it... but not decided to play, yet. Yet one time. :-)


    \\Graphics are over-rated (my son's company).

    Yep.
    Eye-candies VS Ideas.
    Isn't that is what we talking about, here? ;-)


    \\ Graphics are over-rated. People who like them lack imagination. ;P

    Still... I cannot imagine playing Sid's Masterpiece... without that EGA graphics. ;-P

    Geometry VS Algebra?

    Well... I prefer BOTH. ;-P The more the merrier. ;-)

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  85. \\Maybe they should try injecting some objective distance into their problem instead of approaching it as a paranoiac fundamentalist fanatic. MASH Capt. Hawkeye Pierce instead of Maj. Frank Burns.
    /And who won that war for you?


    Harry Truman. :)


    \\Graphics are over-rated (my son's company).
    /Yep.
    Eye-candies VS Ideas.
    Isn't that is what we talking about, here? ;-)


    :)


    \\ Graphics are over-rated. People who like them lack imagination. ;P
    /Still... I cannot imagine playing Sid's Masterpiece... without that EGA graphics. ;-P


    Simple graphics are fine. My favorite arcade game was always Centipede...


    /Geometry VS Algebra?
    Well... I prefer BOTH. ;-P The more the merrier. ;-)


    A picture can be worth 1,000 words. But the second picture of the same thing is probably only worth 100, and it diminishes from there.

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  86. \\MASH Capt. Hawkeye Pierce instead of Maj. Frank Burns.
    /And who won that war for you?

    \\Harry Truman. :)

    Was he... like former? or like that later? ;-)



    \\My favorite arcade game was always Centipede...

    In my realm it was known as Snake... and Manguses. ;-P
    First through which I get to know computer keyboard and screen. For the very first time. :-)



    \\But the second picture of the same thing is probably only worth 100, and it diminishes from there.

    Not quite.
    Reinforcement from repetitions... are quite important too. ;-P
    As in your Lindy's Effect.



    \\Yeah, I just use my laptop. It's got a few missing pixels, but it's not too bad.

    They say there is a way to fix it... with pressing that individual pixel with a niddle.
    But I never tryed it myself.
    Maybe just yet.

    Though I tryed to fix flat panel...
    but was unsuccessful, because of one ribbon -- they made it that way, that it need to be connected in some special way... or something. Sneaky bastards. >:-E

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  87. \\MASH Capt. Hawkeye Pierce instead of Maj. Frank Burns.
    /And who won that war for you?
    \\Harry Truman. :)
    /Was he... like former? or like that later? ;-)


    He had "ironic distance" and so, like the former.


    \\My favorite arcade game was always Centipede...
    /In my realm it was known as Snake... and Manguses. ;-P
    First through which I get to know computer keyboard and screen. For the very first time. :-)


    :)


    \\But the second picture of the same thing is probably only worth 100, and it diminishes from there.
    /Not quite.
    Reinforcement from repetitions... are quite important too. ;-P
    As in your Lindy's Effect.


    ...but even then, there is a diminishing return from each repetition. The first image is a revelation. The second, not so much. It's confirmation. And how many times must we confirm? The entire 6 Sigma x of science? for complete confidence?


    \\Yeah, I just use my laptop. It's got a few missing pixels, but it's not too bad.
    /They say there is a way to fix it... with pressing that individual pixel with a niddle.
    But I never tryed it myself.
    Maybe just yet.
    Though I tryed to fix flat panel...
    but was unsuccessful, because of one ribbon -- they made it that way, that it need to be connected in some special way... or something. Sneaky bastards. >:-E


    I don't own it, so I'm not going to mess with the hardware. I need to return it to the government when I retire. They keep trying to "refresh" my computer, but at this point there's no need to waste more taxpayer money.

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  88. \\...but even then, there is a diminishing return from each repetition.

    That is not the goal of repetitivness. ;-P
    Constant -- do not seek returns. ;-)


    \\I don't own it, so I'm not going to mess with the hardware. I need to return it to the government when I retire. They keep trying to "refresh" my computer, but at this point there's no need to waste more taxpayer money.

    Yap.
    Who need that updates. Old -- is Good. ;-)

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  89. \\...but even then, there is a diminishing return from each repetition.
    That is not the goal of repetitivness. ;-P
    Constant -- do not seek returns. ;-)


    Yes, if the "return" is control of the means of production.

    Just add slight difference/modification to each repetition. Iron Man, Iron Man 2, Iron Man 3, Iron Man 4, Fast and Furious 10... Matrix 5, John Wick 7...

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  90. Post-modern -- it's not Constant. :-)))

    I already mentioned it here -- do you know how they teaching Koran? ;-)

    THAT IS Constant. ;-P

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  91. Quit bragging, will ya? :-)))

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  92. Then... I don't get it, what you talking about. Sorry. :-(

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  93. You couldn't. You don't know the America that I grew up loving, and has now gone.

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  94. My condolences.

    But I lived through SEVERAL of such "gone with a wind" "heppenings".

    And now in ave of wind change that comes closer and closer... :-/

    "Only one thing is constant in this mundane world and that... changes." ;-)

    And it's better to ride what wave of changes... then trying to withstand it.

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  95. Shakespeare, "Hamlet"

    To be, or not to be, that is the question:
    Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
    The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
    Or to take Arms against a Sea of troubles,
    And by opposing end them: to die, to sleep
    No more; and by a sleep, to say we end
    The heart-ache, and the thousand natural shocks
    That Flesh is heir to? 'Tis a consummation
    Devoutly to be wished. To die, to sleep,
    To sleep, perchance to Dream; aye, there's the rub,
    For in that sleep of death, what dreams may come,
    When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
    Must give us pause. There's the respect
    That makes Calamity of so long life:
    For who would bear the Whips and Scorns of time,
    The Oppressor's wrong, the proud man's Contumely, [F: poore]
    The pangs of dispised Love, the Law’s delay, [F: dispriz’d]
    The insolence of Office, and the spurns
    That patient merit of th'unworthy takes,
    When he himself might his Quietus make
    With a bare Bodkin? Who would Fardels bear, [F: these Fardels]
    To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
    But that the dread of something after death,
    The undiscovered country, from whose bourn
    No traveller returns, puzzles the will,
    And makes us rather bear those ills we have,
    Than fly to others that we know not of?
    Thus conscience does make cowards of us all,
    And thus the native hue of Resolution
    Is sicklied o'er, with the pale cast of Thought,
    And enterprises of great pitch and moment, [F: pith]
    With this regard their Currents turn awry, [F: away]
    And lose the name of Action. Soft you now,
    The fair Ophelia? Nymph, in thy Orisons
    Be all my sins remember'd.

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  96. Pretty girl, young man, old man, man with a gun...
    ...the rules do not apply.

    ;)

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  97. That's why I like sci fi.

    It can provide visible presentation to any improbable situation.

    Like for example

    The Days of Solomon Gursky by Ian McDonald - Maxima Library
    www.maxima-library.org › mob
    Ten more days, four hundred more miles, fifty more mountains for Solomon Gursky, in high gear. “Should have been prepared for this, engineer,” Elena said. “Two ...


    Where that problem.

    "You couldn't. You don't know the America that I grew up loving, and has now gone."

    Was SOLVED. AND. Decisively.

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  98. For short... it was solved with re-creation of the world itself. ;-)

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