“They saw their injured country's woe;
The flaming town, the wasted field;
Then rushed to meet the insulting foe;
They took the spear, - but left the shield.”
―Philip Freneau
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And by a prudent flight and cunning save A life which valour could not, from the grave. A better buckler I can soon regain, But who can get another life again?
Archilochus
\\Ukraine's Nazi history dates back to a man called Bandera who collaborated with the National Socialist German Workers Party.
Little fun fact for you.
That Bandera (tm) spent most of years of war in Nazis proson camp, with othe hostages, alongside jews. That is one thing you might be interested to know... before adopting that claim that he "was colaborating with nazis... and killed many jews". ;-)
\\Putin's claim that there are Nazis in Ukraine is partially correct
Yeah? And what about nazis in Rush'A? Country with nukes. Isn't it MUCH MORE DAMN and DANGEROUS??? Wouldn't it be much more apt reason to have sleepless nights? Nazis. With Nukes.
And I really don't give 2 sh*ts about NAZI's, I just like to rub salt into people like Dery's wounds, so I bring them up, regularly. We brought a lot of them back into America (ie Werner von Braun) and re-integrated them into our society. They're just one of the last remaining "villians" acceptable to the wokists (they're white-males). The wokists have too many unwritten rules about always "affirming" minorities. Hence their love for ANTIFA (anti-fascists).
Yes, a elite over-production is a civilizational strange attractor.
\\Perhaps unpredictable no longer... the Rubicon has been crossed? /More like Strange Attractor river. ;-)
\If the state space of a dynamical system is finite in extent, there will be a subset of the state space to which all trajectories are attracted as time passes, called the attractor of the dynamical system. For the simplest systems the attractor is a single point, which represents a state of equilibrium of the system. The physical interpretation is that for any initial state the system always approaches the state of equilibrium as time passes. For more complicated systems, the attractor can be a trajectory that is a closed curve, which represents a system performing regular oscillations. The physical interpretation is that for any initial state the system begins to perform regular oscillations as time passes. But in general nonlinear dynamical system of dimension three or more exhibit chaotic behaviour, and the attractor does not have a simple geometric description: the long-term behaviour of the system appears to be unpredictable, as with the double pendulum. For a chaotic system the attractor is called a strange attractor.
The most famous strange attractor is the Lorenz attractor, which is associated with a three-dimensional dynamical system, studied by Edward Lorenz in 1963, in connection with a problem in meteorology. See an image of the Lorenz attractor.
Appears chaotic, but is predictable/ deterministic in outcome....?
\\Appears chaotic, but is predictable/ deterministic in outcome....?
""But in general nonlinear dynamical system of dimension three or more exhibit chaotic behaviour, and the attractor does not have a simple geometric description: the long-term behaviour of the system appears to be unpredictable""
Well... in simplest terms. "What happens on Green Mile, stay on Green Mile".
Or... what happens on Earth... stays on Earth.
That is self-evidant and obvious observatrion.
If only we could break our chains. Chains of gravity. Chains of habit. Chains of stupidity?
And rise for life of more higher order... ;-)
Other then that, it is virtually doesn't matter what will happen here on Earth... it will stay here.
Except, maybe, if some E.T. would come... as observers... or as archeologists... and would try to make a clue, out of our remains. :-/
There is similarity we share with Honest Anni... you remember? How Golem said that when powerlines was cutted, IT...
Separate observation -- interesting, how Lem humorously and masterfylly downlayed feeling of damger from that Honest Anni... by assigning to it femalish name... and even Golem itself calls it "sister".
But really it is just a shortcut for Honest Annihilator... which gives manly vibes, isn't it? And what would I/you/we could feel from some enigmatic male, with some strange powers to boot... if not danger?
so, IT found a way to produce power for itself -- just by the way of "proper thinking".
But... isn't that is what we trying to achive with our brains -- find a way of "proper thinking"... to produce some more, as much as possible? of endorfines??? ;-)
Isn't that what "phylosophy" really mean? ;-) Generation of endogenous opioids... by the means of "proper thinking"? ;-P
...like rats in a self-administered dopamine experiment? Pushing the button for more dopamine (instead of food)... whilst slowly starving ourselves.... ;)
Choosing ever-more-fragile reward systems rather than anti-fragile ones? Favoring cooperative "aggregate efficiencies" with its' surplus values derived through a social division of labour over those available to a single individual able to "automate" his own labour divisions (w/robots, etc.) or choose not divide his own labour and live in his own dasein?
\\...like rats in a self-administered dopamine experiment? Pushing the button for more dopamine (instead of food)... whilst slowly starving ourselves.... ;)
Evolution... that nasty b*ch, eliminate such a dead ends quickly. ;-P
\\Choosing ever-more-fragile reward systems rather than anti-fragile ones?
Is there such thing as "anti-fragile reward system"???
Well, in that living fossiles maybe. Crocodiles, turtles, letimeria fish?
Which do not demand of them to do anything new... but still allow to survive.
Well... unlike previous cases. Where I cited or was giving some refs.
Or babbled about minutae things.
That is one thought directly from my brain into yours... not interesting? (shy)
Language... communication at greater and greater distances.... like one of my former programs, LCRD.
AI will be the "brain" for future cooperative robotic programs. Swarms of robots of infinite varieties, possibly constructing the space habitats of the future. Fragile now, but perhaps with redundancy, much more "robust" in the future.
Amphibians, crocs/turtles, can survive in two distinct environments. Land and water. THAT is their niche. They "hunt" in water. And "reproduce" on land. What "new" do they need?
They're "interstitial" species. They live on the edges. In the doorways of one environmental realm vs. another. A "transitional" species. Perhaps like a "virus" moving from Earth, through space, to another planet... spreading "life" throughout the Universe.
""Astrovirology is the study of beneficial vs harmful viruses that originated from comets, meteors, solar winds, and ejecta from other planets, or which mutated when lofted by winds into the upper atmosphere.""
Hmm... that need biosphere in space. Biosphere need water. Liquid water...
Gell-Mann Amnesia - Epsilon Theory www.epsilontheory.com › Posts “Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well.
\\I see virus in space as a dormant state.
What would produce that state?
Do you imagine AMOUNT of that viruses needed??? To deseminate Space?
And well... who said that DNA/RNA is universal base of life? And not some other.
Do viruses can use vulnerabilities in some other lifeforms? Like, can you computer catch a flu? Or you, get ill from computer virus?
\\AI will be the "brain" for future cooperative robotic programs. Swarms of robots of infinite varieties, possibly constructing the space habitats of the future. Fragile now, but perhaps with redundancy, much more "robust" in the future.
Do you know some embriology? Nox-genes?
Like that... that we have our five fingers -- because of some primordial bone fishes having rays in their fins...
Virus - Think of "space" as the thin water's surface for an amphibian. Virus' need to be either "above" or "below" this surface in another "(planetary) environment" to feed and reproduce. And that is their nominal state. Inert. They activate when a live organism comes into contact (serendipatously) with them.
No, I don't know embryology. My last biology class was in high school. :(
I see there is differences in our approaches there.
How that "swarming in space" could look like?
With our nowaday approach?
Some big and bulky universal "robots"? Self-sufficient. With remote control by human. Or even with habitable capsule inside. With complex and error-prone system of control and positioning.
And how many such "robots" can work together?
Compare it with how spider do it... have you seen it? Have a chance to? Well, today it is not a problem, just come to Youtube and ask "spiders weave net" and dozens of documentaries will emerge... with mild narrators voice explaining it all, even. :-)
Or... the way it works in our bodies, or in cells in our bodies.
Some filaments, with lots of connection points. Filaments which can move in and out by need, And create "coordinate space" to which much more simple robots can attach, and move by it by much more sumple program, easily controllable. And no need for human attention.
Like move from connection point to connection point. And in final point sprout into: radio-antenna or telescope, some habitat or bio-dome... for photosyntesing bacteria.
And recieve energy and feeding through that filaments... even.
See.
How unresolveble problems became much more simple -- with some other approach used?
What is overly too much complicated. Unsolveble on current level of tech -- how much would it all cost? How hard it would be to make it work? How to prevent imminent disaster, if some error happen?
And what a child's play (like LEGO) it became, with more correct approach. ;-)
Why not interstellar? InterGalactic even? Heliopause is NOT the "great barrier" from Star Trek movies. The home Star goes "nova" and shreds the heliopause. Larger "local bubble" formed. Food/ fuel for new stars. Virus' dormant for a billion years
To break the DNA sequencing puzzle they used "shotgun sequencing". That's why Craig Vetner at Celera crushed the Government funded Human Genome Project. They then STOLE his software.
\\Same code. Different "environmental" expressions. Different shotgun pieces.
Code... have meaning ONLY in a special system which understands that code.
\\- Carbon was chosen as the all-important element for life due to its ability to form complex molecular structures necessary for life and its abundance and stability
Ehm? Yes.
Trivia is such like said by that link.
C(Carbon) can create numerous molecules. Especially polieres. Long-long chains.
But... simple polimers still not usable... for crweating Life.
Like computer on your desk (smartphone in your hands, nowaday)
It produces heat, O.K. In all accordance with thermodinamics.
But... by the way of it, it can do many-many other things: play a video, or show 3D-model of detail, or... calculate something they call AI nowaday. :-)
Perhaps we start in space... building structure... that build structures (using code of "nature")... that then begin to react with light (photosynthesis) giving them the "energy" they need to get started.
\\Perhaps we start in space... building structure... that build structures (using code of "nature")... that then begin to react with light (photosynthesis) giving them the "energy" they need to get started.
Yap.
Only, some plan needed. Detailed enough. Of how achieve it.
And that plan called -- technology. ;-)
\\Hemoglycin (previously termed hemolithin) is a space polymer that is the first polymer of amino acids found in meteorites.[2][3][4]
Yap.
Polimerisation -- that's physical reaction.
Need only raw material, and certain thermodinamical circumstances...
But that... not enough to bootstrap the Life. It seems.
Some secret ingredient, still unknown, needed... or just a lot of time???
A series of events that permits a sustained chemical reaction and self replication. The 'nature' of a virus' is that the chemical reaction can only get started (or is only "activated" in the presence of a host, else it lies "dormant" (no chemical reaction). It uses the "hosts" energy as a catalyst. That's why in the absence of that energy, it needed an external source, like at an ocean vent or under the polar icecaps (less likely) to "charge its' battery?).
Perhaps in the thermal properties of the transferring medium, the heat "opens" a gate...and "closes" when it cools or something. Rinse and repeat. A thermal engine. Or perhaps some anode/cathode form and some replicating mechanism attaches to them. Who knows? I don't do science experiments.
\\Can a heat transfer process be used as a source of energy for the transferring medium? I don't know.
""Heat can be transferred in three ways: by conduction, by convection, and by radiation. Conduction is the transfer of energy from one molecule to another by direct contact.""
Non-equilibrium thermodynamics - Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Non-equilibrium_the... Non-equilibrium thermodynamics is concerned with transport processes and with the rates of chemical reactions. Almost all systems found in nature are not in ...
I suspect that a bug is to a programmer what a fantasy is to a Lacanian. Fantasy opens up a space with which to alter "reality".
"...“the interdicting untruth of fantasy opens up a space for some semblance of communication” — in short, even if a fantasy is not true, this is all we have to maintain at least a semblance of communication."
6. Then, however, something happened which made every mouth mute and every eye fixed. In the meantime, of course, the rope-dancer had commenced his performance: he had come out at a little door, and was going along the rope which was stretched between two towers, so that it hung above the market-place and the people. When he was just midway across, the little door opened once more, and a gaudily-dressed fellow like a buffoon sprang out, and went rapidly after the first one. "Go on, halt-foot," cried his frightful voice, "go on, lazy-bones, interloper, sallow-face!- lest I tickle thee with my heel! What dost thou here between the towers? In the tower is the place for thee, thou shouldst be locked up; to one better than thyself thou blockest the way!"- And with every word he came nearer and nearer the first one. When, however, he was but a step behind, there happened the frightful thing which made every mouth mute and every eye fixed- he uttered a yell like a devil, and jumped over the other who was in his way. The latter, however, when he thus saw his rival triumph, lost at the same time his head and his footing on the rope; he threw his pole away, and shot downward faster than it, like an eddy of arms and legs, into the depth. The market-place and the people were like the sea when the storm cometh on: they all flew apart and in disorder, especially where the body was about to fall.
Zarathustra, however, remained standing, and just beside him fell the body, badly injured and disfigured, but not yet dead. After a while consciousness returned to the shattered man, and he saw Zarathustra kneeling beside him. "What art thou doing there?" said he at last, "I knew long ago that the devil would trip me up. Now he draggeth me to hell: wilt thou prevent him?"
"On mine honour, my friend," answered Zarathustra, "there is nothing of all that whereof thou speakest: there is no devil and no hell. Thy soul will be dead even sooner than thy body; fear, therefore, nothing any more!"
The man looked up distrustfully. "If thou speakest the truth," said he, "I lose nothing when I lose my life. I am not much more than an animal which hath been taught to dance by blows and scanty fare."
"Not at all," said Zarathustra, "thou hast made danger thy calling; therein there is nothing contemptible. Now thou perishest by thy calling: therefore will I bury thee with mine own hands."
When Zarathustra had said this the dying one did not reply further; but he moved his hand as if he sought the hand of Zarathustra in gratitude.
Man is no longer a cyclops. Evolution gives him "binocular" vision... stereo sound... can direve/calculate direction/ location of sensory input. Info shared between brain hemispheres across the corpus callosum. Like the Beamformer on a towed array of hydrophones. Understanding with 'depth".
...where should I point my eyes?...from sound data received by my ears. Two senses, each with two sensors, working together. Coordinating. Anticipating.. learning... correcting.
Look at Drexler. He devised nanotech will be NEXT.
But... even though he correctly percieved barriers on that path -- he was not able to devise solution. :-(
\\Evolution gave us two brain hemispheres... one "logical"... one "intuitive".
Doubt it... since lately.
\\Man is no longer a cyclops. Evolution gives him "binocular" vision... stereo sound... can direve/calculate direction/ location of sensory input. Info shared between brain hemispheres across the corpus callosum. Like the Beamformer on a towed array of hydrophones. Understanding with 'depth".
Third eye would add even more.
As we unable distinguish depth from higness, with just two. ;-)
\\Not Golem alone... but Golem AND Honest Annie... working together. Evolutionary "next step".
But they... wasn't. :-(
\\1+1 not 2
Doubt it.
Only truth in that communication between Golem and Annie... hilator.
As well as between Golem and humans. Or just between humans.
It's how HARD to establish that communictaion.
And how to use it for something... not only viable, but benefitial too...
Almost got my Gel-mann Amnesia from that link you gave -- https://consortiumnews.com/2022/09/07/john-pilger-silencing-the-lambs-how-propaganda-works/
Almost.
UNTIL this excerpts.
""In February, Russia invaded Ukraine as a response to almost eight years of killing and criminal destruction in the Russian-speaking region of Donbass on their border.""
Oh, yeah???
So maybe that is soldiers from Pro-Ukrainian side made that confessions -- that that is THEY was doing all that provocating and disturbing shelling???
Well, but, they was silenced. By CIA??? Or Ukrainain secret services, YES???
As well as most prominent figures of early times: Givi, Motorolla... Zaharchenko -- who could say a lot about it. As they was main actors.
Or... even AS obvious AS Google Maps service fotos from space could provide objective info -- which show perfectly well -- WHERE that destruction happened. And from which side it was more, FAR MORE devastating (hint: Pro-Ukrainan side -- compare Donetsk... and Mariinka -- Western suburbs of that Donetsk).
Or... OWN self-revealing claim... HOW that "Pro-Russian rebels" -- started screaming "That is biggest bombing, nothing like that was EVEN in 2014!!"... to mere DOZEN rounds being shelled per one time...
EITGH YEARS OF BOMBING????
Then... WHAT about Mariupol... which was bombed out in JUST couple of months???
Wouldn't there must be some COMPLETELY FLAT surface... on the place of that Donetsk??? If it would be bombed ANYHOW nearly to that how Mariupol was. For EIGHT years???!!!
""In 2014, the United States had sponsored a coup in Kiev that got rid of Ukraine’s democratically elected, Russian-friendly president and installed a successor whom the Americans made clear was their man.""
Oh, yeah?
So??? Maybe that "democratically elected, Russian-friendly president" have fled to USA??? Naaah.
That is Rush'A sent their spec-ops to extract him.
So??? Maybe USA made use of that disarray, and robbed off Ukraine it's Crimia peninsula??? No, again?
That was not USA marines... that Little Green Men.
So??? Maybe that is USA started cunning plan to make it "semi-civil war"??? With sending thier operatives? Naaah.
That was Strelkov/Girkin -- FSB colonel, and dirty dozen of his "friends".
And that was ADMITED directly by very that Putin and very that Girkin! With THEIR OWN WORDS!!! Putin have said: "Yes, that was OUR genius special operation to 'take back' Crimia". Girkin have said: "Yes, it's ME who pulled trigger of that (civil???) war". HOW "truthful reporter" could NOT know that???
That started basicly a war... in a peaceful then region. And even downed absolutely unrelated MH17 Boing jet. With 300+ neatherland and other countries citizens.
THAT ALL WAS CIA setup??????????????? Well, as I KNOW -- liliPut's Propaganda ONLY sees/trying to push it into minds of people... it being like that.
But that's again United States and CIA/Pentsagon doing???? :-)))))))))
Forgive me... but my Suspension of Disbelief Device gone totally broken, with this. ;-P
In recent years, American “defender” missiles have been installed in eastern Europe, Poland, Slovenia, the Czech Republic, almost certainly aimed at Russia, accompanied by false assurances all the way back to James Baker’s “promise” to Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev in February 1990 that NATO would never expand beyond Germany.""
TOTALLY liliPut's talking point. It trying hard to put as spell of "make believe" on the West.
Means that source -- is on a paychecks... or on some more robust hook, of KGB/FSB.
Because.
EVEN if that'll be true.
That was/could be PROMICE given to "prezident of USSR".
But there is NO such country ANY MORE.
\\Ukraine is the frontline. NATO has effectively reached the very borderland through which Hitler’s army stormed in 1941, leaving more than 23 million dead in the Soviet Union.
Hah???
Like there was NO Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. And Sharing Poland between "dear friends" Stalin and Hitler???
And that Stalin itself... inflicted it on itself... by betraying that pact -- by taking more and more land OUT of agreed borders.
As well as... most of that 23 millions (well, actually more, much more) died BECAUSE of Stalin's inner policies: of genocidal deportations, putting into Gulag, inhumane treating OWN soldiers and citizens.
ALSO... distinctly liliPut's talking point. Nobody on the West or elsewhere DO NOT care, or even completely DO NOT KNOW about...
""Last December, Russia proposed a far-reaching security plan for Europe.""
\\When did the present war in Ukraine begin and who started it? According to the United Nations, between 2014 and this year, some 14,000 people have been killed in the Kiev regime’s civil war on the Donbass. Many of the attacks were carried out by neo-Nazis.
And that is... DIRECT lie.
Branded as United Nation... which NEVER have stated anything like that. Not called it "civil war" or "neo-Nazi attacks".
CLEARLY Propaganda by it's structure. As Goebbels suggested -- to mix true facts and bombastic lies togather.
\\Watch an ITV news report from May 2014, by the veteran reporter James Mates, who is shelled, along with civilians in the city of Mariupol, by Ukraine’s Azov (neo-Nazi) battalion.
Yep.
Staged by Rush'A's liliPut's Propaganda "report" by Rush'A's fake "reporter".
\\In the same month, dozens of Russian-speaking people were burned alive or suffocated in a trade union building in Odessa besieged by fascist thugs, the followers of the Nazi collaborator and anti-Semitic fanatic Stepan Bandera. The New York Times called the thugs “nationalists.”
YET ONE lie.
That case have LOTS of foto and video coverage.
That shows perfectly well -- that that is Pro-Russian tsugs started it -- with using firearms against peaceful people -- in the center of Odessa.
And that all evidances suggest -- that that "burned alive" it was setup too -- by ordering to Pro-Russian people to gather togather in that building -- with lots of flamable materials placed in it's lodge.(as well as it ALL being detracktion from Burning Alive in Kyiv)
ALSO... YET ONE example of perpetuating liliPut's Propaganda -- nobody know or care to know.
\\“The historic mission of our nation in this critical moment,” said Andreiy Biletsky, founder of the Azov Battaltion, “is to lead the White Races of the world in a final crusade for their survival, a crusade against the Semite-led Untermenschen.”
Let me guess?
No video of it? Only from words of "truth reporter"?
\\Since February, a campaign of self-appointed “news monitors” (mostly funded by the Americans and British with links to governments) have sought to maintain the absurdity that Ukraine’s neo-Nazis don’t exist.
Hah... reminds to me... certain someone. ;-P
\\Palestine has been misreported for as long as I can remember. To the BBC, there is the “conflict” of “two narratives.” The longest, most brutal, lawless military occupation in modern times is unmentionable.
And... yeah... anti-jew rethoric. From anti-nazis. %-)))))))))
\\John Pilger has twice won Britain’s highest award for journalism and has been International Reporter of the Year, News Reporter of the Year and Descriptive Writer of the Year. He has made 61 documentary films and has won an Emmy, a BAFTA and the Royal Television Society prize. His ‘Cambodia Year Zero’ is named as one of the ten most important films of the 20th century. He can be contacted at www.johnpilger.com
Well... if that's your BEST??? My condolences.
\\The views expressed are solely those of the author and may or may not reflect those of Consortium News.
Tryed to double-check that "Andreiy Biletsky, founder of the Azov Battaltion, “is to lead the White Races of the world in a final crusade for their survival, a crusade against the Semite-led Untermenschen.”" words.
With quotes, which in Google search means "seek for exact pharase".
And what did I found???
Lot's of "news" sites... that REPEAT it word to word -- clear sign of propaganda message being spreaded.
why this words -- “is to lead the White Races of the world in a final crusade for their survival, a crusade against the Semite-led Untermenschen.” -- is unbelievable to be said by someone from post-Soviet.
First FACT.
There is NO "people of color" there. No "bl_akk" or "yellow".
Well, there IS ethnic differenes... but other then that ALL people there ARE WHITE.
So... saying "White Race" before big crowd of like-minded peers -- hmmm, doubtful.
That is clearly cliche from the West used.
Second FACT.
Words like "final crusade"... that is NOT part of a history, for post-soviet.
At best, some, who was good pupils, could undertand that refernce.
But it NOT have that connotation as for Western countries. Of war against Muslims. Or as newer resurgance because of "Muslim terrorism".
AGAIN. That is words clearly DIRECTED at Western auditory.
Highly doubtful it could be said like that, to his peers. From post-Soviet countries.
Third FACT.
"Semite-led Untermenschen" -- there is NO such words.
Semites... that maybe some educated man from academia, would know and would called jews like that.
Well... there is word "antisemitism", as cliche absorbed from the West.
But hardly regular post-Soviet would devise to omit that "anti-" and devise that it about that certain ethnicity/nation.
And "Untermenschen"... that is from soviet time Anti-Fasist propaganda too.
Like "they, on the West... think that all others are Untermenschen... while WE, we are Inter-nationalists". :-))))))))))))))))))
Means.
All in all... that is Dog Wistle -- to a Western Leftists. ;-P
George Washington, "Farewell Address to the Nation"
Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me, fellow-citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government. But that jealousy to be useful must be impartial; else it becomes the instrument of the very influence to be avoided, instead of a defense against it. Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive dislike of another cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their interests.
The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible. So far as we have already formed engagements, let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith. Here let us stop. Europe has a set of primary interests which to us have none; or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies, the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves by artificial ties in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics, or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her friendships or enmities.
Our detached and distant situation invites and enables us to pursue a different course. If we remain one people under an efficient government, the period is not far off when we may defy material injury from external annoyance; when we may take such an attitude as will cause the neutrality we may at any time resolve upon to be scrupulously respected; when belligerent nations, under the impossibility of making acquisitions upon us, will not lightly hazard the giving us provocation; when we may choose peace or war, as our interest, guided by justice, shall counsel.
Why forego the advantages of so peculiar a situation? Why quit our own to stand upon foreign ground? Why, by interweaving our destiny with that of any part of Europe, entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of European ambition, rivalship, interest, humor or caprice?
It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world; so far, I mean, as we are now at liberty to do it; for let me not be understood as capable of patronizing infidelity to existing engagements. I hold the maxim no less applicable to public than to private affairs, that honesty is always the best policy. I repeat it, therefore, let those engagements be observed in their genuine sense. But, in my opinion, it is unnecessary and would be unwise to extend them. .
\\The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible.
Economics -- it's concentrated Politics.
\\Europe has a set of primary interests which to us have none; or a very remote relation.
Ancient wisdoms can became incorrect or completely outdated, with time.
\\Why, by interweaving our destiny with that of any part of Europe, entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of European ambition, rivalship, interest, humor or caprice?
Do you want to be a small (inevitably, even White Whale is miniscule, in compare with whole ocean) fish in a BIG pond? Or... to stay a BIG fish in your little pond... but, but you can't. You... overgrown it.
\\It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world; so
And... NATO, NATO, NATO, NATO, NATO. ;-P
And now... how that Pasific new aliance called? PATO? ;-)
\\that honesty is always the best policy.
Yap.
But you allowed to Leftists to mud that pond with feces.
\\But, in my opinion, it is unnecessary and would be unwise to extend them. .
Too late.
Now YOU need them more, then they need YOU.
That is what "being in relation" is about -- time coming, when one need to give up that silly pride, and learn to rely on others.
Yes, and this is an evolution BACK towards a more peaceful world. WWII ended in 1945. The Cold War ended in 1991. We won. So why are we still pretending that the Cold War never ended? Because we might lose a little business to more savy and adaptable goods producers?
That YOU, USA... still NEED to GET OUT off their lawn.
Which as they think is Whole Europe.
Flee from it: remove military bases, remove nukes... which mean -- leave it totally defenceless, against Russian Bear. (plus China's Panda lurking around)
And their imperialistic monopolistic economy -- became ONLY MORE hungry. In result of this war. Now they canibalising local businesses with foreign investments... but that will not be for long...
Means -- THEY WILL NOT stop. Because stopping for them -- is death.
SAME as it was with Nazis.
Why Hitler started WW2????
How do you see it? How it explained to you in school?
And why you still don't know Left/Commie explanation... even though you showing how good you know and understand their screeds???
Ghost of the Past Cristmas with Winston Churchill's face saying to you: 'You were given the choice between war and dishonour. You chose dishonour, and you will have war.'
For now. You, USA was lucky, that Ukraine TOOK your bullet instead of you.
But that luck cannot continue forever.
What will you do when liliPut will gone completely mad? Or some other madman arise in his stead???
And they will start offense on Baltic countries -- you have OBLIGATION to protect... but have weakest position for that.
And what you'll do, when NATO start to crumble??? With one after another country of it will start banishing your troops???
And then ALL world economical infrastructure, of which you was protectors, and was benefitting to such a greeat extent, will fall into hands of your rivals???
Russia does not require liebensraum (that was Hitler's dream from "Mein Kamph"). They have the opposite problem. Protecting a HUGE nation with very few people (150m and becoming ever fewer). We are no longer protecting Europe (population 750m) . America is poking the bear. And the bear can do only one thing when being irritatingly poked... kill the poker.
Europe does not need America. A united Europe (DiEM25) is more than capable enough of defending itself... only they are too comfortable.
In 1776, we had a motto. "Join or Die". I suggest Europe heed thathard earned lesson. Only I recommend a confederacy like the Delian League
\\Russia does not require liebensraum (that was Hitler's dream from "Mein Kamph").
Rush'A... objectively not. Not need any more land.
But it's monopolistic imperialistic "oligarchs" -- objectively yes. Because, that is what they think they need.
The same as China's oligarchs.
As SOLUTION of that centuries old stigma of Capitalism -- to have Profit -- Economy MUST expand.
But WITHOUT change in political structure -- it can expand ONLY geographically.
That is PURE economic. To have more profit -- one need to build more factories, to grow more crops, to feed more people.
That is... impossible to achieve why staying in same geographical borders of separate country -- that's it, one need to start a war, to grab MORE land and people, to expand economy MOAR!!!
Imperialism! (tm)
\\They have the opposite problem. Protecting a HUGE nation with very few people (150m and becoming ever fewer).
From whom? White Bears???
Is there many? Or ever was many conqurers, which needed that frozen hell of a landmass??? :-)))))))))))))
\\We are no longer protecting Europe (population 750m) . America is poking the bear. And the bear can do only one thing when being irritatingly poked... kill the poker.
BS.
Operation Chrome Dome. ;-)
\\Europe does not need America. A united Europe (DiEM25) is more than capable enough of defending itself... only they are too comfortable.
Yap.
That's true.
But also... they fear return to times of 19th century of warring nations. Which instigated never ending chain of wars in Europe.
Until it bottled up into First and Second World War.
They NEED you, to be that that balancer.
\\In 1776, we had a motto. "Join or Die". I suggest Europe heed thathard earned lesson. Only I recommend a confederacy
Not possible.
Who will be controlling Nukes???
Well... who will be paying for them???? :-)))))))))))))))))
America used to have two economies, a "northern/ manufacturing" one and a "southern/ agrarian one". The North beat the South in the US Civil War. We need to let the "south" and "southern economies" rise again.
Europe has the same. "Lazy" Spanish/ Italians. Embrace them.
Athens once had a battle between Athena and Poseidon. Athena (and the olive tree) won. Hold out an olive branch. Put up your oars/ rudders.
Hesiod, "Works and Days" PANDORA AND THE JAR [42] For the gods keep hidden from men the means of life. Else you would easily do work enough in a day to supply you for a full year even without working; soon would you put away your rudder over the smoke, and the fields worked by ox and sturdy mule would run to waste. But Zeus in the anger of his heart hid it, because Prometheus the crafty deceived him; therefore he planned sorrow and mischief against men. He hid fire; but that the noble son of Iapetus stole again for men from Zeus the counsellor in a hollow fennel-stalk, so that Zeus who delights in thunder did not see it. But afterwards Zeus who gathers the clouds said to him in anger:
[54] `Son of Iapetus, surpassing all in cunning, you are glad that you have outwitted me and stolen fire -- a great plague to you yourself and to men that shall be. But I will give men as the price for fire an evil thing in which they may all be glad of heart while they embrace their own destruction.'
[60] So said the father of men and gods, and laughed aloud. And he bade famous Hephaestus make haste and mix earth with water and to put in it the voice and strength of human kind, and fashion a sweet, lovely maiden-shape, like to the immortal goddesses in face; and Athene to teach her needlework and the weaving of the varied web; and golden Aphrodite to shed grace upon her head and cruel longing and cares that weary the limbs. And he charged Hermes the guide, the Slayer of Argus, to put in her a shameless mind and a deceitful nature.
\\France and GB already HAVE nukes. Germany could make nukes tomorrow, if they wanted. You don't need many.
You. With expirience working in such industry.
Must know that nukes itself -- not important.
Means of delivery -- are.
And that means need to be spread as wide as possible. And be secret.
How do you imagine it -- concealing such things as nuke-launch siloses, or nuclear submarines bases and etc... in such tightly populated area as Europe is.
USA and Rush'A was participants of Cold War NOT only because was most capable to produce Nukes -- but FIRST OF ALL because they have A LOT of land, barren, sparsely or even non-popuilated to spare... ;-)
\\My economic point would be that the world needs LESS efficient corporations. Efficiency is a war-time value, not a peacetime one.
Dunno... how you calculate thaty "efficiency of corporation"???
AFAIK it more depend on level of taxes and etc.
\\ We need to let the "south" and "southern economies" rise again.
Yes, new tech is needed. But it needs to be "secret". "Private". Not Open sourced or copyright. Like the medeival stonemasons... passed on from master to apprentice. NOT government controlled/ regulated.
\\Both France and GB have nucklear submarines. They also have bombers. You have the tech.
That's... not enough.
\\Yes, new tech is needed. But it needs to be "secret". "Private". Not Open sourced or copyright. Like the medeival stonemasons... passed on from master to apprentice. NOT government controlled/ regulated.
Well... it's up to that... smartaces, who will be developing that tech(s). ;-)
\\This is the "Faustian" age. Be Faust. Be the alchemist.
Because it was deliberate... to pretend that the problems of virtue were actually the "unsolvable" problems of race and culture, so as NOT to be blamed for not addressing actual issues of justice. Be "tolerant". so I don't have to address the real issue of "justice".
I've heard of it. Wasn't it a HUGO award winner or something? Yes, Hugo (thanks Wiki!)
I guess that the reason I never read a lot of SciFi is that it was always half-fantasy, and so I read history. It was only when I was MUCH older that I realized most history was half-fantasy, especially if you weren't reading the primary sources.
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Because... there is nothing unbreakable?
Because even "success" has its drawbacks/ downsides.
Law of Unpredictable Consequances
Perhaps unpredictable no longer... the Rubicon has been crossed?
\\Ukraine's Nazi history dates back to a man called Bandera who collaborated with the National Socialist German Workers Party.
Little fun fact for you.
That Bandera (tm) spent most of years of war in Nazis proson camp, with othe hostages, alongside jews. That is one thing you might be interested to know... before adopting that claim that he "was colaborating with nazis... and killed many jews". ;-)
\\Putin's claim that there are Nazis in Ukraine is partially correct
Yeah? And what about nazis in Rush'A?
Country with nukes.
Isn't it MUCH MORE DAMN and DANGEROUS???
Wouldn't it be much more apt reason to have sleepless nights?
Nazis. With Nukes.
\\Perhaps unpredictable no longer... the Rubicon has been crossed?
More like Strange Attractor river. ;-)
I didn't really know that about Banderas.
And I really don't give 2 sh*ts about NAZI's, I just like to rub salt into people like Dery's wounds, so I bring them up, regularly. We brought a lot of them back into America (ie Werner von Braun) and re-integrated them into our society. They're just one of the last remaining "villians" acceptable to the wokists (they're white-males). The wokists have too many unwritten rules about always "affirming" minorities. Hence their love for ANTIFA (anti-fascists).
Yes, a elite over-production is a civilizational strange attractor.
\\And I really don't give 2 sh*ts about NAZI's, I just like to rub salt into people like Dery's wounds, so I bring them up, regularly.
And that idiot buys it... and trying to blame ME for not colluding with him -- against you. :-))))))))))))))))))
Well, anyway, knowing such type of trivias -- would only help. ;-)
\\We brought a lot of them back into America (ie Werner von Braun) and re-integrated them into our society.
Not exactly.
von Braun was just a dreamer... that was able to pursuit his dreams ONLY that way.
same as his counter-actor -- Koroliov (ukrainian).
There was only that uses for the techs they devised. (oh, that's reminds me something... but cannot recall what... maybe you could help me? ;-))
Real villians... they was either eradicated on the spot.
Or... used in secrecy...
\\Yes, a elite over-production is a civilizational strange attractor.
Dunno what you refering to here...
\\Well, anyway, knowing such type of trivias -- would only help. ;-)
UPD
Like in case of catching some Demn-rat, whose propaganda payload was not updated on that part... reveal to IT that it repeats Putin word to word. ;-P
\\Perhaps unpredictable no longer... the Rubicon has been crossed?
/More like Strange Attractor river. ;-)
\If the state space of a dynamical system is finite in extent, there will be a subset of the state space to which all trajectories are attracted as time passes, called the attractor of the dynamical system. For the simplest systems the attractor is a single point, which represents a state of equilibrium of the system. The physical interpretation is that for any initial state the system always approaches the state of equilibrium as time passes. For more complicated systems, the attractor can be a trajectory that is a closed curve, which represents a system performing regular oscillations. The physical interpretation is that for any initial state the system begins to perform regular oscillations as time passes. But in general nonlinear dynamical system of dimension three or more exhibit chaotic behaviour, and the attractor does not have a simple geometric description: the long-term behaviour of the system appears to be unpredictable, as with the double pendulum. For a chaotic system the attractor is called a strange attractor.
The most famous strange attractor is the Lorenz attractor, which is associated with a three-dimensional dynamical system, studied by Edward Lorenz in 1963, in connection with a problem in meteorology. See an image of the Lorenz attractor.
Appears chaotic, but is predictable/ deterministic in outcome....?
Dervy Dogma...
\\Appears chaotic, but is predictable/ deterministic in outcome....?
""But in general nonlinear dynamical system of dimension three or more exhibit chaotic behaviour, and the attractor does not have a simple geometric description: the long-term behaviour of the system appears to be unpredictable""
Well... in simplest terms. "What happens on Green Mile, stay on Green Mile".
Or... what happens on Earth... stays on Earth.
That is self-evidant and obvious observatrion.
If only we could break our chains. Chains of gravity. Chains of habit. Chains of stupidity?
And rise for life of more higher order... ;-)
Other then that, it is virtually doesn't matter what will happen here on Earth... it will stay here.
Except, maybe, if some E.T. would come... as observers... or as archeologists... and would try to make a clue, out of our remains. :-/
...what a boring job HE must have! ;)
Well... it's all in an eyes of beholder.
Who are we to decide for other people... yet more, for some E.T.s what could be interesting for em???
Well...
There is similarity we share with Honest Anni... you remember?
How Golem said that when powerlines was cutted, IT...
Separate observation -- interesting, how Lem humorously and masterfylly downlayed feeling of damger from that Honest Anni... by assigning to it femalish name... and even Golem itself calls it "sister".
But really it is just a shortcut for Honest Annihilator... which gives manly vibes, isn't it?
And what would I/you/we could feel from some enigmatic male, with some strange powers to boot... if not danger?
so, IT found a way to produce power for itself -- just by the way of "proper thinking".
But... isn't that is what we trying to achive with our brains -- find a way of "proper thinking"... to produce some more, as much as possible? of endorfines??? ;-)
Isn't that what "phylosophy" really mean? ;-)
Generation of endogenous opioids... by the means of "proper thinking"? ;-P
...like rats in a self-administered dopamine experiment? Pushing the button for more dopamine (instead of food)... whilst slowly starving ourselves.... ;)
Choosing ever-more-fragile reward systems rather than anti-fragile ones? Favoring cooperative "aggregate efficiencies" with its' surplus values derived through a social division of labour over those available to a single individual able to "automate" his own labour divisions (w/robots, etc.) or choose not divide his own labour and live in his own dasein?
\\...like rats in a self-administered dopamine experiment? Pushing the button for more dopamine (instead of food)... whilst slowly starving ourselves.... ;)
Evolution... that nasty b*ch, eliminate such a dead ends quickly. ;-P
\\Choosing ever-more-fragile reward systems rather than anti-fragile ones?
Is there such thing as "anti-fragile reward system"???
Well, in that living fossiles maybe. Crocodiles, turtles, letimeria fish?
Which do not demand of them to do anything new... but still allow to survive.
Well... unlike previous cases. Where I cited or was giving some refs.
Or babbled about minutae things.
That is one thought directly from my brain into yours... not interesting? (shy)
Anti-fragile reward systems like "hunting"... then "farming"... then "corporate farming"?
Language... communication at greater and greater distances.... like one of my former programs, LCRD.
AI will be the "brain" for future cooperative robotic programs. Swarms of robots of infinite varieties, possibly constructing the space habitats of the future. Fragile now, but perhaps with redundancy, much more "robust" in the future.
Amphibians, crocs/turtles, can survive in two distinct environments. Land and water. THAT is their niche. They "hunt" in water. And "reproduce" on land. What "new" do they need?
They're "interstitial" species. They live on the edges. In the doorways of one environmental realm vs. another. A "transitional" species. Perhaps like a "virus" moving from Earth, through space, to another planet... spreading "life" throughout the Universe.
Ever read any of Rhawn Joseph's stuff? He's brilliant. Kooky at times. But brilliant.
I've read a lot of his papers. They're genius.
His scientific work is, in Kuhnian terms, "revolutionary".
You know my interests... I'm technologist.
I like that things I can hold in my hands... even if virtually... and tinker with em. As I do with bits and bytes.
Now, I trying to accomodate myself with tinkering with human minds...
you know the reason too.
Not yet any promicing results... yet. :-(((
What we need to start that "swarms of robots in space" thing?
Three things, as I see:
Economical viability (that, what Elon devised... for his Spacex-Starlink combo)
Techs.
Social structures.
Miserly me can suggest only small part of needed... :-(((
""Astrovirology is the study of beneficial vs harmful viruses that originated from comets, meteors, solar winds, and ejecta from other planets, or which mutated when lofted by winds into the upper atmosphere.""
Hmm... that need biosphere in space. Biosphere need water. Liquid water...
Hmmm...
I deem it Gelman's Newspaper.
Gelman? Gaiman?
I see virus in space as a dormant state.
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\\I see virus in space as a dormant state.
What would produce that state?
Do you imagine AMOUNT of that viruses needed??? To deseminate Space?
And well... who said that DNA/RNA is universal base of life? And not some other.
Do viruses can use vulnerabilities in some other lifeforms? Like, can you computer catch a flu? Or you, get ill from computer virus?
\\AI will be the "brain" for future cooperative robotic programs. Swarms of robots of infinite varieties, possibly constructing the space habitats of the future. Fragile now, but perhaps with redundancy, much more "robust" in the future.
Do you know some embriology? Nox-genes?
Like that... that we have our five fingers -- because of some primordial bone fishes having rays in their fins...
Gell-Mann, thanks for the tutorial!
Virus - Think of "space" as the thin water's surface for an amphibian. Virus' need to be either "above" or "below" this surface in another "(planetary) environment" to feed and reproduce. And that is their nominal state. Inert. They activate when a live organism comes into contact (serendipatously) with them.
No, I don't know embryology. My last biology class was in high school. :(
And this is Greek to me. ;)
Imagine that there is just one molecule of virus in each cubic km of Space... just between Sun and closest other star.
How many molecules there could be... and what could produce that amount.
But well... real nail in a coffin... it's needed speed.
To stop circling around Sun... it need to be more then 11 km per second.
WHAT could make that miserly virus fly that fast??? And not destroy it in process.
And well... what billions of years would be needed, to come elsewhere... with that speed.
Biology is complex today. Genetics especially.
But basic ideas not. Evolution is quite capable with doing it KISS.
Development of embryo is based on so-called signal genes.
Which tell to undifferenciated at first cells, what they need to became: bones, muscles... or neurons.
All else, is just trial and error game... easyly understandable for engineer... try make one thing bigger, and other smaller next time
wash, rinse, repeat(?)
:P
:)
The 'viral' plasmoid reconnection express...
Oh my...
\\- Astrovirology is a new subfield of astrobiology that studies the role of viruses on a planetary and interplanetary scale.
Yap.
Interplanetary... but not inter-stellar. ;-)
Plasma? Yap. That's spectacular.
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Well... about robots swarming in space.
I see there is differences in our approaches there.
How that "swarming in space" could look like?
With our nowaday approach?
Some big and bulky universal "robots"?
Self-sufficient. With remote control by human. Or even with habitable capsule inside. With complex and error-prone system of control and positioning.
And how many such "robots" can work together?
Compare it with how spider do it... have you seen it? Have a chance to?
Well, today it is not a problem, just come to Youtube and ask "spiders weave net" and dozens of documentaries will emerge... with mild narrators voice explaining it all, even. :-)
Or... the way it works in our bodies, or in cells in our bodies.
Some filaments, with lots of connection points. Filaments which can move in and out by need, And create "coordinate space" to which much more simple robots can attach, and move by it by much more sumple program, easily controllable. And no need for human attention.
Like move from connection point to connection point. And in final point sprout into: radio-antenna or telescope, some habitat or bio-dome... for photosyntesing bacteria.
And recieve energy and feeding through that filaments... even.
See.
How unresolveble problems became much more simple -- with some other approach used?
What is overly too much complicated. Unsolveble on current level of tech -- how much would it all cost? How hard it would be to make it work? How to prevent imminent disaster, if some error happen?
And what a child's play (like LEGO) it became, with more correct approach. ;-)
Why not interstellar? InterGalactic even? Heliopause is NOT the "great barrier" from Star Trek movies. The home Star goes "nova" and shreds the heliopause. Larger "local bubble" formed. Food/ fuel for new stars. Virus' dormant for a billion years
...or caught in shock wave or plasma jet from a black hole and "accelerated"?
ps - A local ccordinate system would be handy for a cooperating swarm.
\\Virus' dormant for a billion years
Precise machine (exactly precise -- even one atom is important) which be laying on the ground rotting under the sun and rains...
And after billions of year it would start... and perform as if nothing happened?
I don't know any magic that able to make it possible.
Well... have little experience with computer programming?
It's like idea that code from Apple II will run on IBM PC.
No.
It's like program on punchcard of ENIAC... somehow will bootstrap and make work pile of scraps remnants of computers hauled as garbage to Nigeria.
Too many assumptions that must coincide.
Well... we know that there is aminoacids even in a distant gas and dust cloud in Galaxy...
And making RNA(like) chains out of em... that's too, pretty much physics.
But to be sure that ribosimes... is exactly the same in all Universe???
And codones is the same?
And structure of proteins made of that information -- the same, and will perform needed function in different environment???
That's... unbelievable.
Quite contrary -- we know that biology works in quite narrow space/interval of environment.
Like between 0 and 100 degree of celicius (well, exaggerrated, much... but let it be).
In a water solutions. Not metane. Not ftoride or etc.
And even that water solution is of certain proportions of micro-elements.
Naaaaah.
My Ovos is much more capable, even while imagioned. As they able to adapt, for very least.
"Virus"... that would crawling over Galaxy... would not be able to adapt.
So... that is WE are... that "virus", that neeed to develop interstellar flight. And desemenate the Space. ;-P
\\ps - A local ccordinate system would be handy for a cooperating swarm.
Like GPS?
Or like that filaments?
GPS need some machinery to work.
Filaments... that's pretty much like that Turing's machine ribbon. ;-)
And what can be simpler than Turing's machine? ;-)
To break the DNA sequencing puzzle they used "shotgun sequencing". That's why Craig Vetner at Celera crushed the Government funded Human Genome Project. They then STOLE his software.
Virus' are the tape.
Same code. Different "environmental" expressions. Different shotgun pieces.
Virus' (and life) are the Universe's "rust/ oxidation".
:P
supernovas = shotguns.
Einstein to Oppenheimer... same as Human Genome Project to Vetner.
Y?
\\Same code. Different "environmental" expressions. Different shotgun pieces.
Code... have meaning ONLY in a special system which understands that code.
\\- Carbon was chosen as the all-important element for life due to its ability to form complex molecular structures necessary for life and its abundance and stability
Ehm? Yes.
Trivia is such like said by that link.
C(Carbon) can create numerous molecules. Especially polieres. Long-long chains.
But... simple polimers still not usable... for crweating Life.
They have a different physics?
They don't react to quanta (absorb energy)?
Ehm? How that follow?
We learned in past century. That apart from physical parameters (mass, velocity, entroly).
There is structural ones. Like in genetics. Informatics.
They stems from physical ones, of course. But add own "level of indiorection" too...
Like computer on your desk (smartphone in your hands, nowaday)
It produces heat, O.K. In all accordance with thermodinamics.
But... by the way of it, it can do many-many other things: play a video, or show 3D-model of detail, or... calculate something they call AI nowaday. :-)
Perhaps we start in space... building structure... that build structures (using code of "nature")... that then begin to react with light (photosynthesis) giving them the "energy" they need to get started.
Oy.
Vey.
Let there be light!
In search of the 1st virus.
\\Perhaps we start in space... building structure... that build structures (using code of "nature")... that then begin to react with light (photosynthesis) giving them the "energy" they need to get started.
Yap.
Only, some plan needed. Detailed enough. Of how achieve it.
And that plan called -- technology. ;-)
\\Hemoglycin (previously termed hemolithin) is a space polymer that is the first polymer of amino acids found in meteorites.[2][3][4]
Yap.
Polimerisation -- that's physical reaction.
Need only raw material, and certain thermodinamical circumstances...
But that... not enough to bootstrap the Life. It seems.
Some secret ingredient, still unknown, needed... or just a lot of time???
A series of events that permits a sustained chemical reaction and self replication. The 'nature' of a virus' is that the chemical reaction can only get started (or is only "activated" in the presence of a host, else it lies "dormant" (no chemical reaction). It uses the "hosts" energy as a catalyst. That's why in the absence of that energy, it needed an external source, like at an ocean vent or under the polar icecaps (less likely) to "charge its' battery?).
Can a heat transfer process be used as a source of energy for the transferring medium? I don't know.
Perhaps in the thermal properties of the transferring medium, the heat "opens" a gate...and "closes" when it cools or something. Rinse and repeat. A thermal engine. Or perhaps some anode/cathode form and some replicating mechanism attaches to them. Who knows? I don't do science experiments.
...some "naturally occurring" self-replicating Stirling engine?
Those would make an interesting nanobot.
The components evolve separately until some "event unites them and forms a closed system.
:P
\\Can a heat transfer process be used as a source of energy for the transferring medium? I don't know.
""Heat can be transferred in three ways: by conduction, by convection, and by radiation. Conduction is the transfer of energy from one molecule to another by direct contact.""
So? Which one?
\\Who knows? I don't do science experiments.
Partial pressure.
That's why cell walls is so important.
Life works on "magic" Braun's Movment.
\\...some "naturally occurring" self-replicating Stirling engine?
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\\Those would make an interesting nanobot.
Already!
Earth full of nanobots.
Called bacterias.
\\- The Nano machines are activated by light and work like a molecular jackhammer.
Yap
That is level of our proficiency. Stone Age. :-)))))
Well... there was my personal experience.
When I tryed to make (VERY crude) code of GA (genetic algorithm).
I thought that it would need lots of tinkering... but result was almost immediately.
And that was damn strange... as it was absolutely not complete. And that (working!) results was looking gibberish.
Gibberish, but working.
Working, but gibberish.
So... I dived into it with debugger.
And found that it used BUGS in my code. :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))
EAT IT... proponents of Intellectual Design. ;-P
You need to write buggier code... ;)
And what is bug? And what is not? To whom to decide? ;-)
I suspect that a bug is to a programmer what a fantasy is to a Lacanian. Fantasy opens up a space with which to alter "reality".
"...“the interdicting untruth of fantasy opens up a space for some semblance of communication” — in short, even if a fantasy is not true, this is all we have to maintain at least a semblance of communication."
\\I suspect that a bug is to a programmer...
Doubt it. (shy)
Most of the time it either mistyping, wrong assumptions or somebody else's fault ;-P (aha, like compiler makers :-))))
And. Most usual reason of bugs is copy-pasting. Which is telling, isn't it?
Most of my programming errors come from my own stupidity. :(
Yeah... can be said this way too. :-))
That is UNpragmatical.
So what if one have not enough smarts to solve a task? One ned to solve it anyway.
Evolutional dilemma. That, about which Stanislav Lem talked comprhensively...
Nietzsche did too...(Zarathustra)
6.
Then, however, something happened which made every mouth mute and every eye fixed. In the meantime, of course, the rope-dancer had commenced his performance: he had come out at a little door, and was going along the rope which was stretched between two towers, so that it hung above the market-place and the people. When he was just midway across, the little door opened once more, and a gaudily-dressed fellow like a buffoon sprang out, and went rapidly after the first one. "Go on, halt-foot," cried his frightful voice, "go on, lazy-bones, interloper, sallow-face!- lest I tickle thee with my heel! What dost thou here between the towers? In the tower is the place for thee, thou shouldst be locked up; to one better than thyself thou blockest the way!"- And with every word he came nearer and nearer the first one. When, however, he was but a step behind, there happened the frightful thing which made every mouth mute and every eye fixed- he uttered a yell like a devil, and jumped over the other who was in his way. The latter, however, when he thus saw his rival triumph, lost at the same time his head and his footing on the rope; he threw his pole away, and shot downward faster than it, like an eddy of arms and legs, into the depth. The market-place and the people were like the sea when the storm cometh on: they all flew apart and in disorder, especially where the body was about to fall.
Zarathustra, however, remained standing, and just beside him fell the body, badly injured and disfigured, but not yet dead. After a while consciousness returned to the shattered man, and he saw Zarathustra kneeling beside him. "What art thou doing there?" said he at last, "I knew long ago that the devil would trip me up. Now he draggeth me to hell: wilt thou prevent him?"
(continued)
"On mine honour, my friend," answered Zarathustra, "there is nothing of all that whereof thou speakest: there is no devil and no hell. Thy soul will be dead even sooner than thy body; fear, therefore, nothing any more!"
The man looked up distrustfully. "If thou speakest the truth," said he, "I lose nothing when I lose my life. I am not much more than an animal which hath been taught to dance by blows and scanty fare."
"Not at all," said Zarathustra, "thou hast made danger thy calling; therein there is nothing contemptible. Now thou perishest by thy calling: therefore will I bury thee with mine own hands."
When Zarathustra had said this the dying one did not reply further; but he moved his hand as if he sought the hand of Zarathustra in gratitude.
Evolution gave us two brain hemispheres... one "logical"... one "intuitive".
Man is no longer a cyclops. Evolution gives him "binocular" vision... stereo sound... can direve/calculate direction/ location of sensory input. Info shared between brain hemispheres across the corpus callosum. Like the Beamformer on a towed array of hydrophones. Understanding with 'depth".
...with "intuition" to anticipate future target location. Hunt.
...where should I point my eyes?...from sound data received by my ears. Two senses, each with two sensors, working together. Coordinating. Anticipating.. learning... correcting.
Not Golem alone... but Golem AND Honest Annie... working together. Evolutionary "next step".
1+1 not 2
\\Nietzsche did too...(Zarathustra)
He is... not technologist.
Means, even if he know WHAT, he do not know HOW.
Look at Drexler. He devised nanotech will be NEXT.
But... even though he correctly percieved barriers on that path -- he was not able to devise solution. :-(
\\Evolution gave us two brain hemispheres... one "logical"... one "intuitive".
Doubt it... since lately.
\\Man is no longer a cyclops. Evolution gives him "binocular" vision... stereo sound... can direve/calculate direction/ location of sensory input. Info shared between brain hemispheres across the corpus callosum. Like the Beamformer on a towed array of hydrophones. Understanding with 'depth".
Third eye would add even more.
As we unable distinguish depth from higness, with just two. ;-)
\\Not Golem alone... but Golem AND Honest Annie... working together. Evolutionary "next step".
But they... wasn't. :-(
\\1+1 not 2
Doubt it.
Only truth in that communication between Golem and Annie... hilator.
As well as between Golem and humans. Or just between humans.
It's how HARD to establish that communictaion.
And how to use it for something... not only viable, but benefitial too...
You surely know that story...
about seeking for human(s)... at day, with lantern.
Four eyes better.... but only if you also wish to "know yourself" (3-D inside).
;) 2-pairs is goodenuf 4 me.
Almost got my Gel-mann Amnesia from that link you gave -- https://consortiumnews.com/2022/09/07/john-pilger-silencing-the-lambs-how-propaganda-works/
Almost.
UNTIL this excerpts.
""In February, Russia invaded Ukraine as a response to almost eight years of killing and criminal destruction in the Russian-speaking region of Donbass on their border.""
Oh, yeah???
So maybe that is soldiers from Pro-Ukrainian side made that confessions -- that that is THEY was doing all that provocating and disturbing shelling???
Well, but, they was silenced. By CIA??? Or Ukrainain secret services, YES???
As well as most prominent figures of early times: Givi, Motorolla... Zaharchenko -- who could say a lot about it. As they was main actors.
Or... even AS obvious AS Google Maps service fotos from space could provide objective info -- which show perfectly well -- WHERE that destruction happened. And from which side it was more, FAR MORE devastating (hint: Pro-Ukrainan side -- compare Donetsk... and Mariinka -- Western suburbs of that Donetsk).
Or... OWN self-revealing claim... HOW that "Pro-Russian rebels" -- started screaming "That is biggest bombing, nothing like that was EVEN in 2014!!"... to mere DOZEN rounds being shelled per one time...
EITGH YEARS OF BOMBING????
Then... WHAT about Mariupol... which was bombed out in JUST couple of months???
Wouldn't there must be some COMPLETELY FLAT surface... on the place of that Donetsk??? If it would be bombed ANYHOW nearly to that how Mariupol was.
For EIGHT years???!!!
""In 2014, the United States had sponsored a coup in Kiev that got rid of Ukraine’s democratically elected, Russian-friendly president and installed a successor whom the Americans made clear was their man.""
Oh, yeah?
So??? Maybe that "democratically elected, Russian-friendly president" have fled to USA??? Naaah.
That is Rush'A sent their spec-ops to extract him.
So??? Maybe USA made use of that disarray, and robbed off Ukraine it's Crimia peninsula??? No, again?
That was not USA marines... that Little Green Men.
So??? Maybe that is USA started cunning plan to make it "semi-civil war"???
With sending thier operatives? Naaah.
That was Strelkov/Girkin -- FSB colonel, and dirty dozen of his "friends".
And that was ADMITED directly by very that Putin and very that Girkin! With THEIR OWN WORDS!!!
Putin have said: "Yes, that was OUR genius special operation to 'take back' Crimia".
Girkin have said: "Yes, it's ME who pulled trigger of that (civil???) war".
HOW "truthful reporter" could NOT know that???
That started basicly a war... in a peaceful then region. And even downed absolutely unrelated MH17 Boing jet. With 300+ neatherland and other countries citizens.
THAT ALL WAS CIA setup???????????????
Well, as I KNOW -- liliPut's Propaganda ONLY sees/trying to push it into minds of people... it being like that.
But that's again United States and CIA/Pentsagon doing???? :-)))))))))
Forgive me... but my Suspension of Disbelief Device gone totally broken, with this. ;-P
And this is...
"". (U.S. Embassy Kyiv, Flickr)
In recent years, American “defender” missiles have been installed in eastern Europe, Poland, Slovenia, the Czech Republic, almost certainly aimed at Russia, accompanied by false assurances all the way back to James Baker’s “promise” to Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev in February 1990 that NATO would never expand beyond Germany.""
TOTALLY liliPut's talking point. It trying hard to put as spell of "make believe" on the West.
Means that source -- is on a paychecks... or on some more robust hook, of KGB/FSB.
Because.
EVEN if that'll be true.
That was/could be PROMICE given to "prezident of USSR".
But there is NO such country ANY MORE.
\\Ukraine is the frontline. NATO has effectively reached the very borderland through which Hitler’s army stormed in 1941, leaving more than 23 million dead in the Soviet Union.
Hah???
Like there was NO Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. And Sharing Poland between "dear friends" Stalin and Hitler???
And that Stalin itself... inflicted it on itself... by betraying that pact -- by taking more and more land OUT of agreed borders.
As well as... most of that 23 millions (well, actually more, much more) died BECAUSE of Stalin's inner policies: of genocidal deportations, putting into Gulag, inhumane treating OWN soldiers and citizens.
ALSO... distinctly liliPut's talking point. Nobody on the West or elsewhere DO NOT care, or even completely DO NOT KNOW about...
""Last December, Russia proposed a far-reaching security plan for Europe.""
Yeah.
Basicly. "Hey, you, NATO. Get OUT off MY lawn".
AGAIN. Nothing but liliPut's talking point.
\\When did the present war in Ukraine begin and who started it? According to the United Nations, between 2014 and this year, some 14,000 people have been killed in the Kiev regime’s civil war on the Donbass. Many of the attacks were carried out by neo-Nazis.
And that is... DIRECT lie.
Branded as United Nation... which NEVER have stated anything like that. Not called it "civil war" or "neo-Nazi attacks".
CLEARLY Propaganda by it's structure. As Goebbels suggested -- to mix true facts and bombastic lies togather.
\\Watch an ITV news report from May 2014, by the veteran reporter James Mates, who is shelled, along with civilians in the city of Mariupol, by Ukraine’s Azov (neo-Nazi) battalion.
Yep.
Staged by Rush'A's liliPut's Propaganda "report" by Rush'A's fake "reporter".
\\In the same month, dozens of Russian-speaking people were burned alive or suffocated in a trade union building in Odessa besieged by fascist thugs, the followers of the Nazi collaborator and anti-Semitic fanatic Stepan Bandera. The New York Times called the thugs “nationalists.”
YET ONE lie.
That case have LOTS of foto and video coverage.
That shows perfectly well -- that that is Pro-Russian tsugs started it -- with using firearms against peaceful people -- in the center of Odessa.
And that all evidances suggest -- that that "burned alive" it was setup too -- by ordering to Pro-Russian people to gather togather in that building -- with lots of flamable materials placed in it's lodge.(as well as it ALL being detracktion from Burning Alive in Kyiv)
ALSO... YET ONE example of perpetuating liliPut's Propaganda -- nobody know or care to know.
\\“The historic mission of our nation in this critical moment,” said Andreiy Biletsky, founder of the Azov Battaltion, “is to lead the White Races of the world in a final crusade for their survival, a crusade against the Semite-led Untermenschen.”
Let me guess?
No video of it? Only from words of "truth reporter"?
\\Since February, a campaign of self-appointed “news monitors” (mostly funded by the Americans and British with links to governments) have sought to maintain the absurdity that Ukraine’s neo-Nazis don’t exist.
Hah... reminds to me... certain someone. ;-P
\\Palestine has been misreported for as long as I can remember. To the BBC, there is the “conflict” of “two narratives.” The longest, most brutal, lawless military occupation in modern times is unmentionable.
And... yeah... anti-jew rethoric. From anti-nazis. %-)))))))))
\\John Pilger has twice won Britain’s highest award for journalism and has been International Reporter of the Year, News Reporter of the Year and Descriptive Writer of the Year. He has made 61 documentary films and has won an Emmy, a BAFTA and the Royal Television Society prize. His ‘Cambodia Year Zero’ is named as one of the ten most important films of the 20th century. He can be contacted at www.johnpilger.com
Well... if that's your BEST??? My condolences.
\\The views expressed are solely those of the author and may or may not reflect those of Consortium News.
Wise suggestion.
And I...
Tryed to double-check that "Andreiy Biletsky, founder of the Azov Battaltion, “is to lead the White Races of the world in a final crusade for their survival, a crusade against the Semite-led Untermenschen.”" words.
With quotes, which in Google search means "seek for exact pharase".
And what did I found???
Lot's of "news" sites... that REPEAT it word to word -- clear sign of propaganda message being spreaded.
And...
why this words -- “is to lead the White Races of the world in a final crusade for their survival, a crusade against the Semite-led Untermenschen.” -- is unbelievable to be said by someone from post-Soviet.
First FACT.
There is NO "people of color" there. No "bl_akk" or "yellow".
Well, there IS ethnic differenes... but other then that ALL people there ARE WHITE.
So... saying "White Race" before big crowd of like-minded peers -- hmmm, doubtful.
That is clearly cliche from the West used.
Second FACT.
Words like "final crusade"... that is NOT part of a history, for post-soviet.
At best, some, who was good pupils, could undertand that refernce.
But it NOT have that connotation as for Western countries. Of war against Muslims. Or as newer resurgance because of "Muslim terrorism".
AGAIN. That is words clearly DIRECTED at Western auditory.
Highly doubtful it could be said like that, to his peers. From post-Soviet countries.
Third FACT.
"Semite-led Untermenschen" -- there is NO such words.
Semites... that maybe some educated man from academia, would know and would called jews like that.
Well... there is word "antisemitism", as cliche absorbed from the West.
But hardly regular post-Soviet would devise to omit that "anti-" and devise that it about that certain ethnicity/nation.
And "Untermenschen"... that is from soviet time Anti-Fasist propaganda too.
Like "they, on the West... think that all others are Untermenschen... while WE, we are Inter-nationalists". :-))))))))))))))))))
Means.
All in all... that is Dog Wistle -- to a Western Leftists. ;-P
George Washington, "Farewell Address to the Nation"
Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me, fellow-citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government. But that jealousy to be useful must be impartial; else it becomes the instrument of the very influence to be avoided, instead of a defense against it. Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive dislike of another cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their interests.
The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible. So far as we have already formed engagements, let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith. Here let us stop. Europe has a set of primary interests which to us have none; or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies, the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves by artificial ties in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics, or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her friendships or enmities.
Our detached and distant situation invites and enables us to pursue a different course. If we remain one people under an efficient government, the period is not far off when we may defy material injury from external annoyance; when we may take such an attitude as will cause the neutrality we may at any time resolve upon to be scrupulously respected; when belligerent nations, under the impossibility of making acquisitions upon us, will not lightly hazard the giving us provocation; when we may choose peace or war, as our interest, guided by justice, shall counsel.
Why forego the advantages of so peculiar a situation? Why quit our own to stand upon foreign ground? Why, by interweaving our destiny with that of any part of Europe, entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of European ambition, rivalship, interest, humor or caprice?
It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world; so far, I mean, as we are now at liberty to do it; for let me not be understood as capable of patronizing infidelity to existing engagements. I hold the maxim no less applicable to public than to private affairs, that honesty is always the best policy. I repeat it, therefore, let those engagements be observed in their genuine sense. But, in my opinion, it is unnecessary and would be unwise to extend them. .
\\The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible.
Economics -- it's concentrated Politics.
\\Europe has a set of primary interests which to us have none; or a very remote relation.
Ancient wisdoms can became incorrect or completely outdated, with time.
\\Why, by interweaving our destiny with that of any part of Europe, entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of European ambition, rivalship, interest, humor or caprice?
Do you want to be a small (inevitably, even White Whale is miniscule, in compare with whole ocean) fish in a BIG pond? Or... to stay a BIG fish in your little pond... but, but you can't. You... overgrown it.
\\It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world; so
And... NATO, NATO, NATO, NATO, NATO. ;-P
And now... how that Pasific new aliance called? PATO? ;-)
\\that honesty is always the best policy.
Yap.
But you allowed to Leftists to mud that pond with feces.
\\But, in my opinion, it is unnecessary and would be unwise to extend them. .
Too late.
Now YOU need them more, then they need YOU.
That is what "being in relation" is about -- time coming, when one need to give up that silly pride, and learn to rely on others.
We need to get back to our founding principles. This is one of them.
Well... even catholic church admitted that they was not right with their mistreating Galileo. ;-)
Means... it's always better to reform own principles... before Reality will do it...
Main principle of Evolution. Again.
Yes, and this is an evolution BACK towards a more peaceful world. WWII ended in 1945. The Cold War ended in 1991. We won. So why are we still pretending that the Cold War never ended? Because we might lose a little business to more savy and adaptable goods producers?
...because War was a good business model in 1945?
It's just nobody can say NO to that whore War... like "no, I'm pacifist".
No, but you CAN avoid wars of "choice". And THIS was a war of choice (Maidan/ NATO expansion).
They (US/ NATO) want it so bad, they won't even sit down to negotiate "peace".
\\No, but you CAN avoid wars of "choice". And THIS was a war of choice (Maidan/ NATO expansion).
You said you "won" Cold War... DOES it look like behavior of a winner? Anyhow?
There is that Russian anecdote.
About bear hunt.
One hunter screaming to another "I cought a bear".
"Then bring it here"
"I can't!"
"Then go yourself"
"I cannot too... it, do not allow me"
Do you know what Russians talk about???
That YOU, USA... still NEED to GET OUT off their lawn.
Which as they think is Whole Europe.
Flee from it: remove military bases, remove nukes... which mean -- leave it totally defenceless, against Russian Bear. (plus China's Panda lurking around)
And their imperialistic monopolistic economy -- became ONLY MORE hungry. In result of this war. Now they canibalising local businesses with foreign investments... but that will not be for long...
Means -- THEY WILL NOT stop. Because stopping for them -- is death.
SAME as it was with Nazis.
Why Hitler started WW2????
How do you see it? How it explained to you in school?
And why you still don't know Left/Commie explanation... even though you showing how good you know and understand their screeds???
Ghost of the Past Cristmas
with Winston Churchill's face
saying to you: 'You were given the choice between war and dishonour. You chose dishonour, and you will have war.'
For now. You, USA was lucky, that Ukraine TOOK your bullet instead of you.
But that luck cannot continue forever.
What will you do when liliPut will gone completely mad? Or some other madman arise in his stead???
And they will start offense on Baltic countries -- you have OBLIGATION to protect... but have weakest position for that.
And what you'll do, when NATO start to crumble??? With one after another country of it will start banishing your troops???
And then ALL world economical infrastructure, of which you was protectors, and was benefitting to such a greeat extent, will fall into hands of your rivals???
Russia does not require liebensraum (that was Hitler's dream from "Mein Kamph"). They have the opposite problem. Protecting a HUGE nation with very few people (150m and becoming ever fewer). We are no longer protecting Europe (population 750m) . America is poking the bear. And the bear can do only one thing when being irritatingly poked... kill the poker.
Europe does not need America. A united Europe (DiEM25) is more than capable enough of defending itself... only they are too comfortable.
In 1776, we had a motto. "Join or Die". I suggest Europe heed thathard earned lesson. Only I recommend a confederacy like the Delian League
\\Russia does not require liebensraum (that was Hitler's dream from "Mein Kamph").
Rush'A... objectively not. Not need any more land.
But it's monopolistic imperialistic "oligarchs" -- objectively yes. Because, that is what they think they need.
The same as China's oligarchs.
As SOLUTION of that centuries old stigma of Capitalism -- to have Profit -- Economy MUST expand.
But WITHOUT change in political structure -- it can expand ONLY geographically.
That is PURE economic. To have more profit -- one need to build more factories, to grow more crops, to feed more people.
That is... impossible to achieve why staying in same geographical borders of separate country -- that's it, one need to start a war, to grab MORE land and people, to expand economy MOAR!!!
Imperialism! (tm)
\\They have the opposite problem. Protecting a HUGE nation with very few people (150m and becoming ever fewer).
From whom? White Bears???
Is there many? Or ever was many conqurers, which needed that frozen hell of a landmass??? :-)))))))))))))
\\We are no longer protecting Europe (population 750m) . America is poking the bear. And the bear can do only one thing when being irritatingly poked... kill the poker.
BS.
Operation Chrome Dome. ;-)
\\Europe does not need America. A united Europe (DiEM25) is more than capable enough of defending itself... only they are too comfortable.
Yap.
That's true.
But also... they fear return to times of 19th century of warring nations. Which instigated never ending chain of wars in Europe.
Until it bottled up into First and Second World War.
They NEED you, to be that that balancer.
\\In 1776, we had a motto. "Join or Die". I suggest Europe heed thathard earned lesson. Only I recommend a confederacy
Not possible.
Who will be controlling Nukes???
Well... who will be paying for them???? :-)))))))))))))))))
France and GB already HAVE nukes. Germany could make nukes tomorrow, if they wanted. You don't need many.
Yes, Europe fears a return to the "bad old days". Fear is a good thing.
My economic point would be that the world needs LESS efficient corporations. Efficiency is a war-time value, not a peacetime one.
America used to have two economies, a "northern/ manufacturing" one and a "southern/ agrarian one". The North beat the South in the US Civil War. We need to let the "south" and "southern economies" rise again.
Europe has the same. "Lazy" Spanish/ Italians. Embrace them.
...for there is no "life" to embrace in a corporate office.
Athens once had a battle between Athena and Poseidon. Athena (and the olive tree) won. Hold out an olive branch. Put up your oars/ rudders.
Hesiod, "Works and Days"
PANDORA AND THE JAR
[42] For the gods keep hidden from men the means of life. Else you would easily do work enough in a day to supply you for a full year even without working; soon would you put away your rudder over the smoke, and the fields worked by ox and sturdy mule would run to waste. But Zeus in the anger of his heart hid it, because Prometheus the crafty deceived him; therefore he planned sorrow and mischief against men. He hid fire; but that the noble son of Iapetus stole again for men from Zeus the counsellor in a hollow fennel-stalk, so that Zeus who delights in thunder did not see it. But afterwards Zeus who gathers the clouds said to him in anger:
[54] `Son of Iapetus, surpassing all in cunning, you are glad that you have outwitted me and stolen fire -- a great plague to you yourself and to men that shall be. But I will give men as the price for fire an evil thing in which they may all be glad of heart while they embrace their own destruction.'
[60] So said the father of men and gods, and laughed aloud. And he bade famous Hephaestus make haste and mix earth with water and to put in it the voice and strength of human kind, and fashion a sweet, lovely maiden-shape, like to the immortal goddesses in face; and Athene to teach her needlework and the weaving of the varied web; and golden Aphrodite to shed grace upon her head and cruel longing and cares that weary the limbs. And he charged Hermes the guide, the Slayer of Argus, to put in her a shameless mind and a deceitful nature.
\\France and GB already HAVE nukes. Germany could make nukes tomorrow, if they wanted. You don't need many.
You. With expirience working in such industry.
Must know that nukes itself -- not important.
Means of delivery -- are.
And that means need to be spread as wide as possible. And be secret.
How do you imagine it -- concealing such things as nuke-launch siloses, or nuclear submarines bases and etc... in such tightly populated area as Europe is.
USA and Rush'A was participants of Cold War NOT only because was most capable to produce Nukes -- but FIRST OF ALL because they have A LOT of land, barren, sparsely or even non-popuilated to spare... ;-)
\\My economic point would be that the world needs LESS efficient corporations. Efficiency is a war-time value, not a peacetime one.
Dunno... how you calculate thaty "efficiency of corporation"???
AFAIK it more depend on level of taxes and etc.
\\ We need to let the "south" and "southern economies" rise again.
Well... new techs needed for such things.
Both France and GB have nucklear submarines. They also have bombers. You have the tech.
Yes, new tech is needed. But it needs to be "secret". "Private". Not Open sourced or copyright. Like the medeival stonemasons... passed on from master to apprentice. NOT government controlled/ regulated.
This is the "Faustian" age. Be Faust. Be the alchemist.
\\Both France and GB have nucklear submarines. They also have bombers. You have the tech.
That's... not enough.
\\Yes, new tech is needed. But it needs to be "secret". "Private". Not Open sourced or copyright. Like the medeival stonemasons... passed on from master to apprentice. NOT government controlled/ regulated.
Well... it's up to that... smartaces, who will be developing that tech(s). ;-)
\\This is the "Faustian" age. Be Faust. Be the alchemist.
Well... ya, ya, gerr Pudels Kern. ;-P
:P
:)
The in-between comment disappeared? The one that called government the banal evil gerr Pudels Kern.
Mefisophel's censure? :-)))
Well. Hardly government is that force which "trying to do evil, but creates only good"... far-far, doubtful. ;-)
\\- Tolerance mystifies the problem of racism by politicizing it and focusing on cultural prejudices instead of economic, political, and legal power
But... unable to say that that was DELIBERATE???
Well, that what a "wise man" he is.
\\- The new order is to be truly yourself and realize yourself, which is the new id
Whatever.
It is not a game I want to play.
But if you want, I can provide my criticizm. As to any id* proposed, as to very idea of id*. ;-)
\\6. Oppenheimer expresses his belief that he has set in motion a chain reaction that will eventually destroy the world.
What a naivety. Underestimation of One True Force of the Universe -- Inertia. ;-)
Wisdom often lies is denying, not affirming, justice.
La clemenza de Tito
short criptic comments
Because it was deliberate... to pretend that the problems of virtue were actually the "unsolvable" problems of race and culture, so as NOT to be blamed for not addressing actual issues of justice. Be "tolerant". so I don't have to address the real issue of "justice".
Wanna know what I like about Lem's "aliens". He doesn't explain them. They're pure "Id".
Well... in compare to American sci-fi... where E.T.s tend to be antropomorphic and ready to greet incomers with excellent English?
Well... there is enough of such E.T.s in Lem's texts too. Less serious. But well, one cannot be sure about that, too much.
Have you read "The Moon is a harsh mistress"?
I've heard of it. Wasn't it a HUGO award winner or something? Yes, Hugo (thanks Wiki!)
I guess that the reason I never read a lot of SciFi is that it was always half-fantasy, and so I read history. It was only when I was MUCH older that I realized most history was half-fantasy, especially if you weren't reading the primary sources.
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