“They saw their injured country's woe;
The flaming town, the wasted field;
Then rushed to meet the insulting foe;
They took the spear, - but left the shield.”
―Philip Freneau
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And by a prudent flight and cunning save A life which valour could not, from the grave. A better buckler I can soon regain, But who can get another life again?
Archilochus
Saturday, October 7, 2023
Happy Deathday, Edgar!
from Wiki:
Edgar Allan Poe (né Edgar Poe; January 19, 1809 – October 7, 1849) was an American writer, poet, author, editor, and literary critic who is best known for his poetry and short stories, particularly his tales of mystery and the macabre.
32 comments:
Mega, Maga Man
said...
Why would a SMART Guy like you Bother to post on an IDIOTIC blog like that Progressive POS?
Juan Pedro-Caranane and Ledy Armirola-Garces, "Teknokultura: Summary of Digital Culture and Social Movements" (Based on Herbert I. Schiller’s "The Mind Managers")
- Complete marketization: individuals are not only construed as producers and consumers, but also as products. - Anti-sociality (atomie): the only relations that this myth conceives are those mediated by market transactions. The rhetoric on complete autonomy means individual isolation in practice. - No State intervention: deregulation and privatization - De-politicization (anomie): offering ineffective commercial self-help solutions to systemic problems (wishful thinking). - Blaming the victims: since the social conditions are precluded, blame for suffering is transferred to individuals. - Disconnecting people from the principle of reality: narcissistic, idealize, and fictional representations of concrete life.
Genius is ALWAYS disconnected. It's what gives them "space" to think differently. Zarathustra went "up the mountain" for 10 years before trying to share his insights with the people of the town they called "the pied cow".
What did most Greeks think about "tech"? The polemarch's thought that Archimedes inventions would turn all their men into cowards...
Plato thought that the Hellenic boats at Troy turned them into cowards as well (they ran to their ships whenever they were losing the battle). The Spartans (with their walls of men) thought that the Athenian long walls to Pyraeus has turned the Athenians into cowards (they could hide behind them indefinitely). Our oceans (and Navy) do the same for us as Britain's "walls of oak" did for them. The only problem with the Spartan ideal was that when fighting the Macedonains, they eventually "ran out of men" (their former helot slaves fought for Macedon).
How do you turn a Russian soldier into a coward? Take out the Guard battalion behind him?
Napoleon used two primary strategies for the approach to battle. His "Manoeuvre De Derrière" ("move onto the rear") was intended to place the French Army across the enemy's lines of communications. Using a "pinning" force to keep the opponent stationary, he would swing around onto his opponents rear with the bulk of his army, forcing the adversary to either accept a battle on Napoleon's terms or push further into the pinning force and hostile territory. By placing his army into the rear, his opponent's supplies and communications would be cut. This had a negative effect on enemy morale. Once joined, the battle would be one in which his opponent could not afford defeat. This also allowed Napoleon to select multiple march routes into a battle site. Initially, the lack of force concentration helped with foraging for food and sought to confuse the enemy as to his real location and intentions. This strategy, along with the use of forced marches created a morale bonus that played heavily in his favor.
Why? Plato wrote an entire book on the source of Injustice in Society. Luxury. He called it, "The Republic".
from the Jowett summary:
They spend their days in houses which they have built for themselves; they make their own clothes and produce their own corn and wine. Their principal food is meal and flour, and they drink in moderation. They live on the best of terms with each other, and take care not to have too many children. ‘But,’ said Glaucon, interposing, ‘are they not to have a relish?’ Certainly; they will have salt and olives and cheese, vegetables and fruits, and chestnuts to roast at the fire. ‘’Tis a city of pigs, Socrates.’ Why, I replied, what do you want more? ‘Only the comforts of life,—sofas and tables, also sauces and sweets.’ I see; you want not only a State, but a luxurious State; and possibly in the more complex frame we may sooner find justice and injustice. Then the fine arts must go to work—every conceivable instrument and ornament of luxury will be wanted. There will be dancers, painters, sculptors, musicians, cooks, barbers, tire-women, nurses, artists; swineherds and neatherds too for the animals, and physicians to cure the disorders of which luxury is the source. To feed all these superfluous mouths we shall need a part of our neighbour’s land, and they will want a part of ours. And this is the origin of war, which may be traced to the same causes as other political evils. Our city will now require the slight addition of a camp, and the citizen will be converted into a soldier. But then again our old doctrine of the division of labour must not be forgotten. The art of war cannot be learned in a day, and there must be a natural aptitude for military duties. There will be some warlike natures who have this aptitude—dogs keen of scent, swift of foot to pursue, and strong of limb to fight. And as spirit is the foundation of courage, such natures, whether of men or animals, will be full of spirit. But these spirited natures are apt to bite and devour one another; the union of gentleness to friends and fierceness against enemies appears to be an impossibility, and the guardian of a State requires both qualities. Who then can be a guardian? The image of the dog suggests an answer. For dogs are gentle to friends and fierce to strangers. Your dog is a philosopher who judges by the rule of knowing or not knowing; and philosophy, whether in man or beast, is the parent of gentleness. The human watchdogs must be philosophers or lovers of learning which will make them gentle. And how are they to be learned without education?
Sounds more like it needs to be "limited". Perhaps this is where the concept of abolishing "usury" originated. So as to not permit certin individuals the capital required to 'over-produce"?
\\Blogger -FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said... Why? Plato wrote an entire book on the source of Injustice in Society. Luxury. He called it, "The Republic".
And he did it before or after incepriont of mass-production and scientific revolution?
In Plato’s Apology, Socrates himself cites his service as a hoplite, or armored infantryman, in the Athenian army during the extended siege of Potidaea (432 BC), the Athenian assault on Delium (424 BC) and the expedition to defend the Athenian colony of Amphipolis (422 BC).
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Why would a SMART Guy like you Bother to post on an IDIOTIC blog like that Progressive POS?
Because they aren't bad people. They just suffer from mass-media hysteria.
Did you bother to read the post below this one?
What part of:
Juan Pedro-Caranane and Ledy Armirola-Garces, "Teknokultura: Summary of Digital Culture and Social Movements" (Based on Herbert I. Schiller’s "The Mind Managers")
- Complete marketization: individuals are not only construed as producers and consumers, but also as products.
- Anti-sociality (atomie): the only relations that this myth conceives are those mediated by market transactions. The rhetoric on complete autonomy means individual isolation in practice.
- No State intervention: deregulation and privatization
- De-politicization (anomie): offering ineffective commercial self-help solutions to systemic problems (wishful thinking).
- Blaming the victims: since the social conditions are precluded, blame for suffering is transferred to individuals.
- Disconnecting people from the principle of reality: narcissistic, idealize, and fictional representations of concrete life.
...don't you get? They've been MANIPULATED.
...just like YOU have been manipulated to hate them (although I will admit that pShaw brings a lot of grief on them from her own stupid censorship).
Better yet, just read the text at the start of this post... the second post below this.
Our country has been 'effed up. And it hasn't been "unintentionally" so.
Asked whether he believes the border wall works,
Biden answered, "No."
Well then Maybe having a OPEN BORDER WHERE 16.8 Million Illegals, JUST WALK freely IN IS A BETTER IDEA!
Maybe he needs housekeepers for his private Delaware estates?
What good are "free" houses from China without servants?
\\Because they aren't bad people. They just suffer from mass-media hysteria.
They... do not think that way about you.
And if it'll be in real life... there'd be pitchforks.
\\- Disconnecting people from the principle of reality: narcissistic, idealize, and fictional representations of concrete life.
People ARE disconnected.
Have you not read that, about Corcoran? ;-)
Genius is ALWAYS disconnected. It's what gives them "space" to think differently. Zarathustra went "up the mountain" for 10 years before trying to share his insights with the people of the town they called "the pied cow".
Plato's "prisoner" left the cave and went outside before he came back to free the others.
All modern wonders of scientific discoveries... seems like wasted on you. :-(
Call me Icarus.
Misleading... isn't he (over?)USED modern wonders of his times? ;-P
What did most Greeks think about "tech"? The polemarch's thought that Archimedes inventions would turn all their men into cowards...
Plato thought that the Hellenic boats at Troy turned them into cowards as well (they ran to their ships whenever they were losing the battle). The Spartans (with their walls of men) thought that the Athenian long walls to Pyraeus has turned the Athenians into cowards (they could hide behind them indefinitely). Our oceans (and Navy) do the same for us as Britain's "walls of oak" did for them. The only problem with the Spartan ideal was that when fighting the Macedonains, they eventually "ran out of men" (their former helot slaves fought for Macedon).
How do you turn a Russian soldier into a coward? Take out the Guard battalion behind him?
Napoleon used two primary strategies for the approach to battle. His "Manoeuvre De Derrière" ("move onto the rear") was intended to place the French Army across the enemy's lines of communications. Using a "pinning" force to keep the opponent stationary, he would swing around onto his opponents rear with the bulk of his army, forcing the adversary to either accept a battle on Napoleon's terms or push further into the pinning force and hostile territory. By placing his army into the rear, his opponent's supplies and communications would be cut. This had a negative effect on enemy morale. Once joined, the battle would be one in which his opponent could not afford defeat. This also allowed Napoleon to select multiple march routes into a battle site. Initially, the lack of force concentration helped with foraging for food and sought to confuse the enemy as to his real location and intentions. This strategy, along with the use of forced marches created a morale bonus that played heavily in his favor.
\\How do you turn a Russian soldier into a coward?
Show em their czar being miserly.
And. You KNEW it. That, what you did with Gorby.
\\Napoleon used two primary strategies
Both impopssible without loyal men.
Interesting perspective.
That's what I call "good food"...
\\...don't you get? They've been MANIPULATED.
They WANT to be manipulated. To thrug off that byrden of freedom. Of too much things to choose from. ;-P
"Nothing new under the Moon"(c)
Freedom is hard. That's why the masses scream for "socialism" and a bureaucracy for leaders. :(
Naaaah.
Socialism -- it's what Propaganda prozeliting among masses.
And bureaucracy -- it's inevitability... because sufficiently big and complex system of control -- need to be hierarchical.
That's just it. People don't need to be centrally controlled. They don't need massive bureaucracy. Look what Musk did to twitter.
Whatever.
People like comfort.
Comfort need lots of efforts being funneled into production.
Production -- need to be controlled.
Why? Plato wrote an entire book on the source of Injustice in Society. Luxury. He called it, "The Republic".
from the Jowett summary:
They spend their days in houses which they have built for themselves; they make their own clothes and produce their own corn and wine. Their principal food is meal and flour, and they drink in moderation. They live on the best of terms with each other, and take care not to have too many children. ‘But,’ said Glaucon, interposing, ‘are they not to have a relish?’ Certainly; they will have salt and olives and cheese, vegetables and fruits, and chestnuts to roast at the fire. ‘’Tis a city of pigs, Socrates.’ Why, I replied, what do you want more? ‘Only the comforts of life,—sofas and tables, also sauces and sweets.’ I see; you want not only a State, but a luxurious State; and possibly in the more complex frame we may sooner find justice and injustice. Then the fine arts must go to work—every conceivable instrument and ornament of luxury will be wanted. There will be dancers, painters, sculptors, musicians, cooks, barbers, tire-women, nurses, artists; swineherds and neatherds too for the animals, and physicians to cure the disorders of which luxury is the source. To feed all these superfluous mouths we shall need a part of our neighbour’s land, and they will want a part of ours. And this is the origin of war, which may be traced to the same causes as other political evils. Our city will now require the slight addition of a camp, and the citizen will be converted into a soldier. But then again our old doctrine of the division of labour must not be forgotten. The art of war cannot be learned in a day, and there must be a natural aptitude for military duties. There will be some warlike natures who have this aptitude—dogs keen of scent, swift of foot to pursue, and strong of limb to fight. And as spirit is the foundation of courage, such natures, whether of men or animals, will be full of spirit. But these spirited natures are apt to bite and devour one another; the union of gentleness to friends and fierceness against enemies appears to be an impossibility, and the guardian of a State requires both qualities. Who then can be a guardian? The image of the dog suggests an answer. For dogs are gentle to friends and fierce to strangers. Your dog is a philosopher who judges by the rule of knowing or not knowing; and philosophy, whether in man or beast, is the parent of gentleness. The human watchdogs must be philosophers or lovers of learning which will make them gentle. And how are they to be learned without education?
Sounds more like it needs to be "limited". Perhaps this is where the concept of abolishing "usury" originated. So as to not permit certin individuals the capital required to 'over-produce"?
...or take advantage of Adam Smith's "division of labour".
\\Blogger -FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...
Why? Plato wrote an entire book on the source of Injustice in Society. Luxury. He called it, "The Republic".
And he did it before or after incepriont of mass-production and scientific revolution?
Before both, but after more than a few wars.
Child's play in sandbox wars? ;-)
In Plato’s Apology, Socrates himself cites his service as a hoplite, or armored infantryman, in the Athenian army during the extended siege of Potidaea (432 BC), the Athenian assault on Delium (424 BC) and the expedition to defend the Athenian colony of Amphipolis (422 BC).
While brandishing ICBM... with which he was piercing his emenies? ;-)
Where would the "justice" lie in that? He would deem such the most "cowardly" and "injust" of acts.
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