“They saw their injured country's woe;
The flaming town, the wasted field;
Then rushed to meet the insulting foe;
They took the spear, - but left the shield.”
―Philip Freneau
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And by a prudent flight and cunning save A life which valour could not, from the grave. A better buckler I can soon regain, But who can get another life again?
Archilochus
Saturday, December 2, 2023
Primates Achieve their Evolutionary End...
82 comments:
Anonymous
said...
One little problem... originally it was "don't see... EVIL, don't say... EVIL..."
"" By 1950, Lionel Trilling could write this (remember that the meaning of liberalism had changed by 1940 or so to mean statism):
"In the United States at this time liberalism is not only the dominant but even the sole intellectual tradition. For it is the plain fact that nowadays there are no conservative or reactionary ideas in general circulation. This does not mean, of course, that there is no impulse to conservatism or to reaction. Such impulses are certainly very strong, perhaps even stronger than most of us know. But the conservative impulse and the reactionary impulse do not, with some isolated and some ecclesiastical exceptions, express themselves in ideas but only in action or in irritable mental gestures which seek to resemble ideas. ( http://www.conservapedia.com/Lionel_Trilling )"
There are certainly more anti-fragile means of pursuing goals. "Efficiency" and the "free" exact a price, one now deliberately "hidden" in the transference.
MK 13:33-37 Jesus said to his disciples: “Be watchful! Be alert! You do not know when the time will come. It is like a man traveling abroad. He leaves home and places his servants in charge, each with his own work, and orders the gatekeeper to be on the watch. Watch, therefore; you do not know when the Lord of the house is coming, whether in the evening, or at midnight, or at cockcrow, or in the morning. May he not come suddenly and find you sleeping. What I say to you, I say to all: ‘Watch!’”
\\There are certainly more anti-fragile means of pursuing goals.
Yap. Like in Buddhism -- desire nothing. And hope for reincarnation into something good in the future. :-)))
\\Can you "see" the "Hidden"?
Frankly. Naaah.
Sorry for disappointment.
And forgive me my doubts... I am from a realm where they (those who know better) was promising "anti-fragile hidden values and etc"... but not for today, somewhere in future.
First to my grand-grand-fathers, then to grand-fathers, then to fathers, then to children...
But it ALWAYS was just: ""The rule is jam tomorrow and jam yesterday but never jam to-day.""
\\...underlying signs before the expression of feelings...like "Joy"?
That's... artifacts of your cranky lang. Other langs have crankiness of their own. Can you believe me, to my this mere words?
Well... if you can't, how you can wait for me to believe to yours?
\\they say that cynics know the price of everything, but the value of "nothing". I'd say that very few people know the real value of "nothing".
I believe you. That you are most exceptional country (in Lem's terms).
\\Like I said, I'm a "classical liberal". I appreciate the value of "nothing".
What would be your reaction if I would say yet one time -- that I dunno?
\\...as Isaiah Berlin would call it... "Negative Liberty".
something that induist know from eternity as A-himsa?
I just read Kafka's "The Great Wall of China". Now those were some people who worried about "the Future"... "Russians" from the North...
...and Emperors from "the Past".
And yet, the "planners" and "builders" built the wall in "sections"... with huge gaps between them. Every great civilization has its' "discontents". It's usually the ones without any jam.
America no longer produces jam. We still eat it, but today it comes from out of the country. And we don't ever pay anyone for it. We just shift some 1's and 0's in a computer. There's great "value" in nothing... 1's and 0's.
Yes, we're focused on the Present. And the jam is still plentiful. Everyone want's to come here to eat it...
"You have been made ill by the State and you will be cured by the State, but not the same State" - Karl Marx [...] Here again is the triple means of codification: if not the legal, the contractual relation, if not the contractual then the institutional. Upon these codes, all our forms of bureaucratic organization thrive.
You're a programmer. What language(s) do you code in?
The Democrat's financed by George Soros prefer "Open Source"... hence his "Open Society Institutes". I hear that they were pretty big in Ukraine while Biden was VP.
When we used to deliver code for the Arrow ABM program to Israel, we were only allowed to give the our compiled code. They weren't allowed to see the source code. It was one of those "trade" restrictions.
Is an ABM "intelligent"? How about one that can also shoot down cruise missiles? The background between the two scenarios is pretty stark. One's a cold sky. The other's a warmer contrast, filled with return clutter.
One thing's for sure. It can't be dumb. Not if it's going to intercept the threat target.
\\ Anonymous, what do you want humans thousands of miles away to do exactly?
Certainly I NEVER thought that those who protect themself... from manslaughter massacres... would be called "murderers" and nearly all world will start hanging on their feet trying to prevent em from doing justice.
Was there such thing in any other times in History, to any other nation except oh-so-loved-by-everyone-Jews... rhetorical question.
I didn't think it was moral either on their side, at first. That took me a few years to realize. Theirs was just a different code. One born of ressentiment. A "Rawlsian" morality. Social Justice. I think of it as a "secular" form of Christianity. All the supposed "good intentions" but without the Deity. That's where "Government" steps in (with all the deity's power"). Social Justice is "justice" applied with "efficiency" (rendering it profoundly un-just).
While cenzuring out moralization from other side? ;-P
Yes, they react with particular ressentiment to the failures of the voluntary moral code of Christianity. They prefer it be made "mandatory", and hence, immoral.
\\While cenzuring out moralization from other side? ;-P
\\Yes, they react with particular ressentiment to the failures of the voluntary moral code of Christianity. They prefer it be made "mandatory", and hence, immoral.
I was refering to that my own post that contained nothing vice... but still not disclosed.
Which reveal it to the fullest -- that that is NOT "eliminating" "wrong-doing".
But just a convinient elimination of capable rivalary. Under hypocrisy of "protection from vice".
Well... that is not, and cannot be visible. Because of that censure.
You're just an irredeemable deplorable. You secretly hate non-whites and your ancestors once violated the rights of blacks, slaves and minorities. You must suffer in silence, as they once did. Cosmic social justice.
Secular religions are the most ridiculous. For the fetish object must be utterly transformed into something it is not. You must turn a blind eye to all evidence contrary to the fetishes object holy nature.
The labels are misleading. My politics are those of a classical-liberal. As Nietzsche said: "Liberal institutions cease to be liberal as soon as they are attained: later on, there are no worse and no more thorough injurers of freedom than liberal institutions. One knows, indeed, what their ways bring: they undermine the will to power; they level mountain and valley, and call that morality; they make men small, cowardly, and hedonistic — every time it is the herd animal that triumphs with them. Liberalism: in other words, herd-animalization."
82 comments:
One little problem... originally it was "don't see... EVIL, don't say... EVIL..."
""
By 1950, Lionel Trilling could write this (remember that the meaning of liberalism had changed by 1940 or so to mean statism):
"In the United States at this time liberalism is not only the dominant but even the sole intellectual tradition. For it is the plain fact that nowadays there are no conservative or reactionary ideas in general circulation. This does not mean, of course, that there is no impulse to conservatism or to reaction. Such impulses are certainly very strong, perhaps even stronger than most of us know. But the conservative impulse and the reactionary impulse do not, with some isolated and some ecclesiastical exceptions, express themselves in ideas but only in action or in irritable mental gestures which seek to resemble ideas. ( http://www.conservapedia.com/Lionel_Trilling )"
""
Like I say, I'm a classical liberal. :)
...and it still works for the monkeys. They're very positivist/ affirmative!
Dunno.
While I see that even your peers cannot come to understand it...
I, as foreigner, will not even try to (claim to) understand. :-)
The "tech" has turned men back into monkeys. Pretty easy.
Making monkeys out of monkeys? What a wondrous trick. Even David Copperfield could not accomplish. :-)
And making moneys out of monkeys... well, yeah. :-)
Ah, now we've gotten to the "root" of it.
The art of "transference"
;-P
:P
:)
Freud, "Exchange words for fantasies... PROFIT!"
I really hate the capitalist dialectic... :(
Maybe I just need a new "tech" to cure me of it! @@
As Candide once said, "Cultivate your own garden"! But then again, what good could ever come of that?
(reprised comment... sorry Jen).
How many billion gardeners must you employ to maintain YOUR garden? Mine only "requires" one.
See no evil,
Hear no evil,
Speak no evil,
Post no evil.
In other words. GTF off the internet!
It isn't a medium for communication or socialization. It's a medium for totalitarian control of commerce.
...of "transference".
aka - psychopolitics.
\\Post no evil.
Given reaction of DEMNs... one just cannot predict what could be deemed as "EVIL" to em.
Relativity... all way down.
A re-codified global marketplace where the "many" lose, and the "few" profit by eliminating the ability of the many to ever "win".
ps - Sure you can. "Evil" is that which makes them "feel" less powerful.
As Nietzsche said. What's "good and bad" for the Masters is "good and evil" for the Slaves (Beyond Good & Evil).
\\A re-codified global marketplace where the "many" lose, and the "few" profit by eliminating the ability of the many to ever "win".
Whatever.
(only the slaves often claim that the "evil" isn't their fault, it's the Master's fault).
"Whatever"?
Enjoy the censored/ castrated life.
Well... that is YOU are one who proclaiming not doing anything in this life, anymore...
If communication with me could make you understand yourself... like this projection of yours...
Well... I am not a master to you... to say is it good or is it bad...
There are certainly more anti-fragile means of pursuing goals. "Efficiency" and the "free" exact a price, one now deliberately "hidden" in the transference.
Message for 1st Sunday of Advent:
MK 13:33-37
Jesus said to his disciples:
“Be watchful! Be alert!
You do not know when the time will come.
It is like a man traveling abroad.
He leaves home and places his servants in charge,
each with his own work,
and orders the gatekeeper to be on the watch.
Watch, therefore;
you do not know when the Lord of the house is coming,
whether in the evening, or at midnight,
or at cockcrow, or in the morning.
May he not come suddenly and find you sleeping.
What I say to you, I say to all: ‘Watch!’”
Can you "see" the "Hidden"?
...hidden "values".
...surplus "values"?
...underlying signs before the expression of feelings...like "Joy"?
My names Friday, I work on Tuesday, Tuesday's my secretary.
A woman walked into the office and pulled out a pair of 44's. I wasn't scared. Then she pulled out a gun. I got scared.
I escorted her back to the elevator. I went up. She went down. Then we got into the elevator.
On the way we got a flat. I pumped. She pumped. Then we got out and fixed the tire.
We went to the beach. Everyone was feeling Mary. When Mary left, everyone jumped for Joy. When Joy left, we left.
We went to her place. Her dad came home and told me to beat it. So I did. Then I left....
they say that cynics know the price of everything, but the value of "nothing". I'd say that very few people know the real value of "nothing".
...which is why Dems are the way they are.
They only know prices.
...and those prices are "free".
:P
...not what they gave up (freedom) in order for those prices to always be "free".
Like I said, I'm a "classical liberal". I appreciate the value of "nothing".
...as Isaiah Berlin would call it... "Negative Liberty".
\\There are certainly more anti-fragile means of pursuing goals.
Yap. Like in Buddhism -- desire nothing. And hope for reincarnation into something good in the future. :-)))
\\Can you "see" the "Hidden"?
Frankly. Naaah.
Sorry for disappointment.
And forgive me my doubts... I am from a realm where they (those who know better) was promising "anti-fragile hidden values and etc"... but not for today, somewhere in future.
First to my grand-grand-fathers, then to grand-fathers, then to fathers, then to children...
But it ALWAYS was just: ""The rule is jam tomorrow and jam yesterday but never jam to-day.""
\\...underlying signs before the expression of feelings...like "Joy"?
That's... artifacts of your cranky lang. Other langs have crankiness of their own. Can you believe me, to my this mere words?
Well... if you can't, how you can wait for me to believe to yours?
\\they say that cynics know the price of everything, but the value of "nothing". I'd say that very few people know the real value of "nothing".
I believe you. That you are most exceptional country (in Lem's terms).
\\Like I said, I'm a "classical liberal". I appreciate the value of "nothing".
What would be your reaction if I would say yet one time -- that I dunno?
\\...as Isaiah Berlin would call it... "Negative Liberty".
something that induist know from eternity as A-himsa?
I just read Kafka's "The Great Wall of China". Now those were some people who worried about "the Future"... "Russians" from the North...
...and Emperors from "the Past".
And yet, the "planners" and "builders" built the wall in "sections"... with huge gaps between them. Every great civilization has its' "discontents". It's usually the ones without any jam.
America no longer produces jam. We still eat it, but today it comes from out of the country. And we don't ever pay anyone for it. We just shift some 1's and 0's in a computer. There's great "value" in nothing... 1's and 0's.
Yes, we're focused on the Present. And the jam is still plentiful. Everyone want's to come here to eat it...
America. The streets there are piled high with jam... and to get some, all you have to do is run our code. It's written in 1's and 0's.
"Curiouser and curiouser!"(tm)
Ukraine REALLY wants some jam...
"You have been made ill by the State and you will be cured by the State, but not the same State" - Karl Marx
[...]
Here again is the triple means of codification: if not the legal, the contractual relation, if not the contractual then the institutional. Upon these codes, all our forms of bureaucratic organization thrive.
You're a programmer. What language(s) do you code in?
Deleuze?
\\You're a programmer. What language(s) do you code in?
That was a bit sudden.
Well... classic ones. ;-P
Ah, Aristotle, Voltaire, Russell...
...Open Source? ...or Proprietary?
The Democrat's financed by George Soros prefer "Open Source"... hence his "Open Society Institutes". I hear that they were pretty big in Ukraine while Biden was VP.
When we used to deliver code for the Arrow ABM program to Israel, we were only allowed to give the our compiled code. They weren't allowed to see the source code. It was one of those "trade" restrictions.
Is an ABM "intelligent"? How about one that can also shoot down cruise missiles? The background between the two scenarios is pretty stark. One's a cold sky. The other's a warmer contrast, filled with return clutter.
One thing's for sure. It can't be dumb. Not if it's going to intercept the threat target.
I wonder how the British would have handled the different threats.
\\Ah, Aristotle, Voltaire, Russell...
Plankalkul? ;-P
Naaah... that's ancient.
\\...Open Source? ...or Proprietary?
And who paying money for opensource???
WHERE????!!!!
Please, lead me to that fine pastures.
\\ I hear that they were pretty big in Ukraine while Biden was VP.
Rumors?
To explain waste of moneys???
Guess this will not be disclosed too...
"""
\\Blogger Grey One talks sass said...
\\ Anonymous, what do you want humans thousands of miles away to do exactly?
Certainly I NEVER thought that those who protect themself... from manslaughter massacres... would be called "murderers" and nearly all world will start hanging on their feet trying to prevent em from doing justice.
Was there such thing in any other times in History, to any other nation except oh-so-loved-by-everyone-Jews... rhetorical question.
"""
One more...
"""
\\It is possible to stand with the Palestinian and Israeli people, believing both deserve homes free from violence and oppression.
Little problem here.
That is that Palestinians that have had CHOOSE that "violence and oppression".
Or what??? Germans that voted for Hitler was "innocent" too????
And where I could see you admitting that freeing Europe from nazis was... mistake? Genocide? Wrong thing to do???
\\It is possible to condemn the actions of the leaders of both nations.
Is it possible? Seems like yes... while, NOT simultaneously. NOT AT ALL.
And is it hypocritical? YES. Absolutely.
Like in those saying: "I don't like just TWO things -- racism... and those n***rs".
"""
Double-bingo, isn't it?
\\ I hear that they were pretty big in Ukraine while Biden was VP.
/Rumors?
To explain waste of moneys???
Maaaaah. They were running the anti-corruption scam for the CIA.
...and I wouldn't get too invested in what pShaw and her friends say. Indignant moralizing is all they have in their lives.
While cenzuring out moralization from other side? ;-P
To show how immoral that other side UNDENIABLY is -- see, they do not post moral! :-)))
I didn't think it was moral either on their side, at first. That took me a few years to realize. Theirs was just a different code. One born of ressentiment. A "Rawlsian" morality. Social Justice. I think of it as a "secular" form of Christianity. All the supposed "good intentions" but without the Deity. That's where "Government" steps in (with all the deity's power"). Social Justice is "justice" applied with "efficiency" (rendering it profoundly un-just).
While cenzuring out moralization from other side? ;-P
Yes, they react with particular ressentiment to the failures of the voluntary moral code of Christianity. They prefer it be made "mandatory", and hence, immoral.
..."law" and mandates step in where morality (and voluntarism) leave off.
\\While cenzuring out moralization from other side? ;-P
\\Yes, they react with particular ressentiment to the failures of the voluntary moral code of Christianity. They prefer it be made "mandatory", and hence, immoral.
I was refering to that my own post that contained nothing vice... but still not disclosed.
Which reveal it to the fullest -- that that is NOT "eliminating" "wrong-doing".
But just a convinient elimination of capable rivalary. Under hypocrisy of "protection from vice".
Well... that is not, and cannot be visible. Because of that censure.
Not visible EVEN to censurist.
And to many who was censured out.
BLASPHEMY!
Stop speaking, SATAN!
;)
:-))))))))))))
Yeah. :-)))))
Well... to that I can only answer that there is no Satan in Bible. only saatan. ;-P
You're just an irredeemable deplorable. You secretly hate non-whites and your ancestors once violated the rights of blacks, slaves and minorities. You must suffer in silence, as they once did. Cosmic social justice.
Ressentiment.
As for me, I am an "ally". And as penance, I shall never speak ill of a civilization's former 9and current) victims.
Ressentiment is a "righteous" form of anger. Minorities are the fetish you must hold on to in order for your sins of ancestry to be forgiven.
Secular religions are the most ridiculous. For the fetish object must be utterly transformed into something it is not. You must turn a blind eye to all evidence contrary to the fetishes object holy nature.
Well...
can you assess my observation of you, from outside and by the foreigner from far-far-away.
That roles of "conservatives" and "progressists" flip-flopped.
Now even the program of "progressives" is to "back better".
And supposed "conservatives" behave with a vigor... only revolutioners of the past was doing...
The labels are misleading. My politics are those of a classical-liberal. As Nietzsche said: "Liberal institutions cease to be liberal as soon as they are attained: later on, there are no worse and no more thorough injurers of freedom than liberal institutions. One knows, indeed, what their ways bring: they undermine the will to power; they level mountain and valley, and call that morality; they make men small, cowardly, and hedonistic — every time it is the herd animal that triumphs with them. Liberalism: in other words, herd-animalization."
Whatever.
I -- technologist.
Not politician.
...and as Freud said, Man is a not a herd animal, he's a horde animal.
On the "nature" of American exceptionalism.
Pft!
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