Tian Jiaxi, "Young people seeking an escape with a temple visit"
Lin Yiran is a vocal artists with more than 100,000 fans on social media. She has successfully dubbed the voices in many popular games. But today she wears a navy blue cotton robe with her hair in a bun, sitting quietly in a temple hall and listening to a master explain the principles of Buddhism.
"I want to temporarily escape from my previous life," said Lin, 30. Prior to this, she had been going through an extremely difficult time due to work stress and negative emotional experiences.
Lin excels in her field but faces criticism too.
"The industry lacks a criterion for evaluating the quality of dubbing," Lin said. "Some people may dislike a game character because of its voice actor."
For Lin, this kind of failure comes as a crushing blow, which makes her almost lose basic reading ability. She once found her voice paused uncontrollably, being unable to read a conversation clearly and fluently, even a single line in a newspaper.
"I didn't think I was suffering from depression," Lin said, "but I was really tired and needed to find a place to press the pause button for myself." On the advice of a friend, she decided to embark on her first temple trip to Dizang Ancient Temple.
Lin is not an exception. In China, there is a famous saying that goes "Between school and work, I choose to burn incense," which vividly reveals the huge impact of "involution" – a viral phrase referring to the feeling of being in a rat race with little possibility to succeed – on Chinese youngsters in today's competitive society.
According to the May Day Travel Trends Report released by online travel website Qunar Travel, the sales of temple scenic spots increased by 3.6 times year-on-year in 2023. Previously, Ctrip, another leading online travel service, also showed that nearly half of those who booked tickets for temples were born in the 1990s and 2000s.
Like Lin, a majority of Chinese young people are experiencing similar pains. They work hard day after day to complete their studies and life tasks, but increasingly feel lost and tired.
As described by Byung-Chul Han, a Korean German philosopher, in "The Burnout Society," Chinese youngsters constantly engage in various forms of "self-oppression," yearning to become their "best self" and gain energy from external recognition. However, most ultimately fail in the battle against themselves due to exhaustion.
"That's why their lives urgently need a 'halftime'," said a 50-year-old temple staff member who declined to be identified. And the temple, which symbolizes "the Peach Garden of the Soul," gradually becomes their preferred place for mental healing.
Chen Ting, 28, used to be a publicist for an e-commerce company in China. Earlier this year, she was diagnosed with both breast nodules and thyroid nodules. For the sake of her health, she resigned and began a six-day temple visit.
"The scenery on the mountain is beautiful and the air is so good," Chen said. "People who come to the temple always treat others with kindness." While she didn't believe in Buddhism before, she began to learn the Diamond Sutra from the monks. When she read "All phenomena are like a dream, an illusion, a bubble and a shadow, like dew and lightning," she felt as if she was waking up from a dream and gaining enlightenment.
According to data from consultation company iResearch, almost 60 percent of Chinese people say they go to temples to relieve anxiety and seek spiritual sustenance. Almost the same percentage agree that burning incense is a way to reduce stress and that emotions need an outlet.
"It's like returning to a very regular life in high school," Lin said. She had imagined that the trip would be very free and leisurely, like sitting on a small stool in a quiet place with warm sunshine, listening to a bell ringing in the distance and quietly watching the monks coming and going. However, on the contrary, the schedule was quite full, though she was mentally prepared in advance.
During her two-day temple visit, Lin had to get up for classes at 5:30am. After some vegetarian dishes at noon, she only had a half-hour break. In the afternoon, she needed to meditate and copy scriptures. It was not until 8:30pm that the temple turned off its lights, meaning the day's journey had come to an end.
She remembered that before each meditation the master would let them walk in circles in the hall, loudly reciting words like "Who are you?" "Who is chanting Buddha?" and constantly giving questions to the people present. Some responded bravely, while Lin remained silent from beginning to end.
"I was afraid of making mistakes," said Lin as she recalled the scene that impressed her the most. She thought the master wanted them to enter a state of consciousness through mantras and the mechanical behavior of "walking." She just dragged her fatigued body while walking at first, but slowly forgot about the unpleasant things in her life.
"It was like unloading a heavy burden with a feeling of emptiness in everything," said Lin, who was so excited that she wanted to cry at that moment.
"Young people can revive and grow again in the temple," said Xiao Ying, a monk who has lived in a temple for several years. "They are like plants illuminated by sunshine."
In fact, most young people, like Lin, come to the temple with questions to find answers. Some of them managed to pull themselves out of a mental tailspin, and they asked the master how to live a good life in the present during the visit.
"I didn't know what to say, so I just asked the master what desire is," Lin told reporters. There are good and bad desires in the world. However, she wanted to figure out that if the desire was to become a better person, should it be eradicated?
Unfortunately, Lin could only recall some of the words the master had said. She knew that only by truly comprehending Buddhism could she understand its meaning. However, Wang Yu, a white-collar worker who had participated in a temple trip before, believed that this kind of method does not make a lot of sense. Rather than saying that people are finding answers from the master, it is more accurate to say that they are just seeking comfort.
"Problems will never sink into the river," said Xiao. She sincerely acknowledged that a short trip helps people escape from ordeal for a while, but it can't always have a lasting impact on their future life.
Lin has also known this truth since she was a child. "Escaping is not the right solution," she said. Although coming to the temple indeed brought her some spiritual purification, when she returns to the track of normal life, she needs to draw upon all her courage like before. "Problems and pains still lie there," said Lin. "They won't disappear, unless you resolve them."
(Lin Yiran, Chen Ting, Xiao Ying and Wang Yu are pseudonyms)
Biden is a very “SICK and INEPT MAN”, but those who cover for him and prop him up are even Sicker.!!!
ReplyDeleteEver since Biden came into office everything has changed and has been been out of order and in chaos since he came in, from domestic issues to foreign policy. He's governed like someone completely under the control of the left, with extreme positions on the border and student loans, for example.
Our country has never been as divided, and our economy has never been as bad, Not since I have been alive and on this earth!. For crying out loud, It’s a torture just going to the Supermarket these days,
Instead, we got a nasty man. He makes up things constantly to pander and to hold onto control. He screams at people when he's challenged, he's called voters and media all kinds of names including liar, fat, son of a b*tch, even threatening to take a voter "outside." At this point, his lack of competence has made the issues he's had all his life for not telling the truth even worse. He's also smeared millions of Americans as extremists because they support his political opponent, and in disgusting attacks he's tried to paint them as a danger to the public. Meanwhile, Democrats are targeting his main political opponent and trying to increase Biden's chances like we've never seen before in history. So much for bringing "civility" back. I don't think there's ever been a more divisive or destructive person to occupy the office.
Now comes the revelation from Politico about the nasty things that Biden is saying in private about former President Donald Trump. Oh, and the revelation that he has a reputation for salty language behind closed doors. Funny how I think this is the first time in the three years of coverage of Biden in office that I think I've seen this "reputation" reported.
President Biden has described Trump to longtime friends and close aides as a “sick fuck” who delights in others’ misfortunes, according to three people who have heard the president use the profane description. According to one of the people who has spoke with the president, Biden recently said of Trump: “What a fucking asshole the guy is.”
The White House declined to comment.
No, Trump is NOT sick, not at all but Biden is the “Sick” one who has been trying to divide the nation and demonize Americans as Biden has. Sick is someone who can't find his way off a stage but thinks he can run again for office though he barely seems to know where he is half the time. “Sick” is someone who can never take responsibility for his failures and keeps making the same mistakes, like Joe Biden. “Sick” is telling the same lies, including about your political opponent, over and over and over again -- even when those lies have been debunked, as LIES! -- but still has not being able to stop.
It’s a shame that Crooked Joe Biden disrespects the presidency both publicly and privately. He is the “Sick” one, not former president Trump.
This is the "Sick man. I wouldn't use Joe's curse word. Saying such a falsehood in a screaming ranting, and slamming his hands down on the podium and again suggesting that his Son died in battle in France, rather than of CANCER in 2015, that is a very ”Sick Man”.
To ALL Readers, and Poster of Shaw's Progressive Blog.
ReplyDeletePlease KNOW, and Be AWARE that Shaw , changes the text of posts that she doesn't like and Changes the Post to make it look the way She wants it to.
Known it since Day 1...
ReplyDeleteHah... Totalitarian.
ReplyDeleteAnd why anybody need to be surprised?
Insecurity does that to people. Helps them believe that they're in "control". @@
ReplyDeleteYeah. Homeostasis.
ReplyDeleteWrongly understood.
“Rattus sapiens” in behavioural sinks. They've moved from Belmont to Fishtown.
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile, Calhoun dedicated himself to a different kind of design: the design of social, intellectual, and information networks. He was convinced that the problem of adapting to the new pressures imposed by an increasingly urbanized built environment could be solved only if channels of communication were arranged in such a way that access to the relevant information was not inhibited by disciplinary and institutional structures.
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Calhoun suggested organizing scientists into a global, intercommunicating network composed of independent but interconnected groups and sub-groups. Only then could the necessary conceptual growth to avoid a catastrophic sink be achieved. He claimed it was “toward a concern with science as a world system which must be understood if the human race is to survive.”33 He saw these attempts to defer social pathology as the centerpiece and real import of his work. Here was the profit, the positive signal from the noise of the behavioral sink
...He went further. Just as his withdrawn and deviant rats were comparable to the creative scientist’s tendencies towards “uncertainty, spontaneity, waste, tolerance, and variability,” the behavior of dominant animals could be compared to “normal” and “conservative” science which celebrated “efficiency, order, yield, power, and conformity.”35 Drawing from Kuhn’s model of scientific revolutions, Calhoun selfconsciously presented his work as “meta” as opposed to “normal science” (1971a: 331). It was crucial that the insights of those (such as himself) existing on “a frontier of science, a zone of tension and change between traditional systems of thought,” be subsumed within the broader whole. The creative solutions that emerged among those on the periphery needed to travel across hierarchies, disciplines, and, in this case, species.
Work from home...
Science... cannot be directed. ;-P
ReplyDeleteTechnology -- can. ;-)
The two work hand in hand. What's the next science mission? The one that flies with an order of magnitude instrument/ technology improvement.
ReplyDeleteHah... you think so?
ReplyDeleteTimes when scientific advances could be achieved in home laboratory... gone with the wind.
Now... it all techs. ;-)
Normal science... what can I say. It's not "revolutionary science".
ReplyDeleteRevolutionary science requires the home chemistry set.
ReplyDeleteNaaaah.
ReplyDeleteTechnology -- that is one and only revolutionary science.
And why that still not obvious? ;-)
Like after that idea about seeds/probes to other stars.
Or... space telescope of galactic scale.
Or... well, it need only courage... to look into miriads of eyes pf endless possibilities...
That's not technology. That's the "fiction" in "science fiction". Imagination.... THEN technology. And technology proceedes slowly... in slow, deliberate, order of magnitude steps. In TRL levels. Step-by-Step.
ReplyDelete:P
ReplyDeleteTRL6 by PDR. THAT's the gold standard for normal science.
ReplyDeleteYeah. Primitive. Primordial... :-/
ReplyDeleteNot TRUE tech.
Sorry, the process is build/test not build/use for new tech.
ReplyDeleteYou can build/use AFTER complete testing.
ReplyDeleteOn my computer.
ReplyDeleteI can write a couple of lines... compile it. And run. To produce whole World.
Caveat is... Computers have no OUTPUT to a real world.
Except that "hyper-reality" you loathe so much.
But.
I revealed to you a way -- how that inner world, world inside computer, world inside one's brain -- imagination.
Can be connected into Real World.
But...
who cares. :-((((((((((((((((((((
It's not called R&D for no reason.
ReplyDelete\\Sorry, the process is build/test not build/use for new tech.
ReplyDeleteYeah.
Because we still are craftsmen... not technologists. :-(((
\\You can build/use AFTER complete testing.
Or... thorough modelling... with inserting sensors for collecting lifetime info.
So product are same time are prototype for future version.
Or... can even develop on the go (that is MUST HAVE feature for that Ovo/seeds/probes, as we discussed it before).
\\It's not called R&D for no reason.
ReplyDeleteWe... programmers.
Call it "eat your own dog food". ;-P
It doesn't go directly from imagination to reality. It goes to code/ symbolics. And THAT translation is not trivial OR simplistic.
ReplyDeleteGarbage in = Garbage out.
ReplyDelete...that's why we "test".
ReplyDelete\\It doesn't go directly from imagination to reality. It goes to code/ symbolics. And THAT translation is not trivial OR simplistic.
ReplyDeleteTHAT'S IT!!!
Like I EVER said something like that -- that it simplistic.
But.
Was you trying to think about what you using day to day now?
Like that software Tower of Babylon -- your computer firmware... on top of it your OS... on top of it your browser/word processor/etc... on top of that all kinds of scripts and server-side goodies, like YouTube you like so much... on top of it Big Data and AI making conclusions...
and etc, and etc, and etc...
Was it trivial? Ahhh?
Was it simple? To make something like that.
But.
WE.
DID IT.
And did it exactly because... there was people who DARED to IMAGINE that something like that IS POSSIBLE. ;-)
And how many "generations" of micro-processors did it take?
ReplyDeleteFrom Alan Turing's machine to today?
Well... in times of Turing. Few was able to envision and understand something like that.
ReplyDeleteToday. Story is totally OPPOSITE... that is not non-believing that stopping progress -- but too much "hyper-reality". ;-P
Too many phony "imagine this, imagine that"... that ruins people's will to do something, anything...
Isn't that is Truth?
\\And how many "generations" of micro-processors did it take?
ReplyDeleteWell... for that people who made FiRST processor. It was IMMEDIATELY open to em -- what will follow.
Moor's Law.
What is Moore's law in simple terms?
What Is Moore's Law and Is It Still True?
Moore's Law states that the number of transistors on a microchip doubles about every two years, though the cost of computers is halved. In 1965, Gordon E. Moore, the co-founder of Intel, made this observation that became known as Moore's Law.
Guilty. But I'm not feeling groovy...
ReplyDeleteThat... I dunno how to answer...
ReplyDeleteonly trying to skirt it...
Lemmings running of a "tech" cliff.
ReplyDeletewhat about "anti-fragility"?
ReplyDeleteImagine if evolution didn't "test" between evolutionary steps.... to select the "proper" most anti-fragile assembly?
ReplyDelete...just "globalized" every mutation.
ReplyDeleteAtlantis did it right.
ReplyDelete...yet paid the price.
ReplyDeleteI just the same as you... same rat-pal in a labirinth...
ReplyDeletefollowing a hunch. ;-P An insanity. ;-P An empty shell of a hope. ;-P
But... my hunch/insanity/hope... have a system. ;-)
Means... it's not some dust or trash...
IT'S A SEED.
That can be planted. And make a seedling.
And then if I/you/we are lucky... it will grow...
into something big. ;-)
PS That's ONLY promise I can give to you... here and now.
It's a "seed" that must know many parallel "next assembly" mutations in advance... or it will have to wait billions of years to develop/ test through natural selection.
ReplyDeleteWilliam Blake
And did those feet in ancient time
Walk upon Englands mountains green:
And was the holy Lamb of God,
On Englands pleasant pastures seen!
And did the Countenance Divine,
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here,
Among these dark Satanic Mills?
Bring me my Bow of burning gold:
Bring me my arrows of desire:
Bring me my Spear: O clouds unfold!
Bring me my Chariot of fire!
I will not cease from Mental Fight,
Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand:
Till we have built Jerusalem,
In Englands green & pleasant Land.
I am just a miserly sub-system, minuscule sub-process...
ReplyDeletehow can I know something like that?
Can I? ;-P
Will you build & use or build & test?
ReplyDeleteThe former requires advance knowledge... and the latter requires advance knowledge... but perhaps less initial resources and a higher probability of success.
ReplyDeleteImagine if Mars' Ingenuity could repair or re-grow it's blades. Or "re-balance" them.
ReplyDeleteGot any "lessons learned" for NASA?
ReplyDeleteWell.
ReplyDeleteTo the point.
What span of your design-test-build cycle?
For programming it's one week... for a global advance. That's when each new version planned/appeared (well, most advanced technic is to have "night builds" -- which summarize all latest changes, and passing em through tests -- EVERY NIGHT!)
And for local one... like one hour. From time programist decided to do something, add some features... and code it in, and try it, and add tests and etc.
Also... there is technic Test First...
So.
Practically.
In a nutshell.
And for simplicity.
My idea is to add such programming flexibility... for material production.
And try to push it to the edge, of what theoretically possible at all.
Like that "growing parts" and etc -- which I deem not as any dreamy and fantastic... as we have EXAMPLE -- biological creatures do that -- that makes it absolutely POSSIBLE.
That's just we too stupid... to grok how to accomplish it. Are we? ;-)
\\Imagine if Mars' Ingenuity could repair or re-grow it's blades. Or "re-balance" them.
ReplyDeleteActually. I was thinking about viable design.
Like with horde of starfish-like robots. Why?
Starfishes can move individually quite good. But also, with needed to us additions -- they can interconnect. To provide flow of: energy/electricity, information network, even flow of materials, if you need.
But, because they are consist of interchangable elements -- they can "self-repair". Prune bad part and insert some new in it's place.
And they can be connected in many forms.
Well... that is first stage and universal ones, that can be sent from Earth.
But on the Mars... they will be used to make building facility -- which would produce more special, more suiting and tested for the environment ones.
That same back-propagation technic used.
ReplyDeleteAt first let's state the goal -- not just gone to Mars... but STAY there.
That changes whole picture.
And make it transparent that just manned expedition... AKA "Martian" is total insanity -- that is destiny worse then death. To stay on Mars with numerous fragility points. And practically no means of return. No... worse. That means will have numerous fragility points too.
And while it so easy to imagine -- team of humans unloaded on the surface of Mars. With tons of equipment. Sheer amount of everyday work needed to just sustain their miserly lifes... will just eat out all their capabilities to do anything good there.
So... very next idea -- androids!!! Human-sized, human-level capable of doing anything and everything...
But.
Remote/tele-presence control of em would not be possible. And ability for em to mimic humans... ehm, that's definitely sci-fi... or even fantasy.
So... what's else?
Some clever modular and technological system... with special robo-carrier, robo-movers, robo-builder??? As in any first computer game? ;-P
Naaah.
That's not possible too.
We still UNABLE to create THAT MUCH complex and robust systems. Here on Earth.
Well, you could say "NO! WE have em -- that robotic factories".
But... they are:
1) NOT flexible. Despite all glamour of buzz and hand-weaving talks.
2) NOT robust. Except in cosy in-door environment.
3) NOT autonomous. Work only because of horde of humans operators.
So.
No.
It's not possible.
All such robo-something. Will stop in just couple of months. Because of some dust in their shafts and valves.
And they will not be able to perform their duty anyway... because they'd need to have "environment awarness".
What span of your design-test-build cycle?
ReplyDeleteMonths to years to develop a fix for a "system failure" like our LISA telescope... because it was a new material and the stress loadings on the glass were unknown... like a crack on your car's windshield... how will the crack from a chip propogate? and how can you reinforce and stress relieve a damaged section? Many fixes and material combination needed to be developed and tested to select the best option that would allow the repaired "system" to re-undergo environmental testing TVAC & Vibe to ensure that telescope pointing accuracy would not be compromised.
ie - different materials have different thermal expansion characteristics.
ReplyDelete...and the launch date keeps moving back do to technical and funding issues.
ReplyDelete:P
The Structural Test Model (STM) @ L3 Harris failed vibration.
ReplyDeleteThe Laser Development process also presented many challenges... and TRL 6 has not yet been achieved.
ReplyDelete....and the development team is far flung and huge, which doesn't make it any easier.
ReplyDelete\\What span of your design-test-build cycle?
ReplyDelete\\Months to years to develop a fix for a "system failure" like our LISA telescope...
I meant regular build/design time cycle, of course.
Programming errors... or "vulnerabilities"... can exist for many years too...
\\Many fixes and material combination needed to be developed and tested to select the best option that would allow the repaired "system" to re-undergo environmental testing TVAC & Vibe to ensure that telescope pointing accuracy would not be compromised.
Yeah.
Lots of tedious work... that could be and even must be... automated.
Time varies on complexity. Simple project...
ReplyDelete1 year study followed by 6-12 months of "study evaluation" and selection by NASA HQ for funding. Followed by 1-x years of 'concept development' (through TRL6) and flight funding. Followed by 3-5 years of concept implementation (design/build of flight version) and launch 30-90 days.
Mission life design 3-5 years (usually last aat least 20). My first mission (ACE) launched in '95 and is still providing data.
ReplyDeleteOh, there's a commissioning and transit period before "nominal science" mission begins). That can be 30 days to years depending upon destination (ie Mars/Saturn/ GEO) or LEO.
ReplyDeleteps - During development, not much is automated unless you have sensors with hundreds of individual elements (like BAT instrument for Swift).
ReplyDeleteThe flight software does get built incrementally and automated test scripts added as instruments and components are added to the S/C bus... and of course must all get verified in test and independently validated against simulators/ emulators/ HWIL.
..it helps to have propotype and development h/w to test FSW against in the FSW development lab.
ReplyDeleteMega-Projects like JWST can take substantially longer and multi-billions $$$$.
ReplyDelete\\Time varies on complexity. Simple project...
ReplyDeleteI mean elementary loop.
Projects... for example project called -- Linux Kernel... which makes roughly a half of all of IT of today... is 30-something, and keep going/growing/developing...
\\ps - During development, not much is automated...
Yep!
So? Does it possible? To STAY on Mars? (or that question is uninteresting?)
ReplyDeleteHow Evolution would do it... if it'll be technologist?
For example, as it happened when Evolution gone out of Ocean and on the Surface.
That was plants.
All they was able to use -- it's carbon in the air. And some scraps of other elements.
So... idea of building on Mars with use of metal smelting -- purely impossible. As there is no neither oxygen in the air, nor oil and coal...
And ordinary plastic tech -- not possible too, as it based on metals too.
But...
using biological approach -- with collecting carbon from air.
And then using it "in vitro" to build up internal structures...
but, we don't have tech for that... yet. ;-)
Like Earth, Mars has an atmosphere and weather, but both differ greatly from what we experience on Earth. Let's compare: The composition of the Martian atmosphere differs greatly from Earth's. Earth's atmosphere is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 1.0% argon, 0.04% carbon dioxide, and small amounts of other gases. It also averages about 1% water vapor. Mars' atmosphere however is 95% carbon dioxide, 3% nitrogen, 1.6% argon, and it has traces of oxygen, carbon monoxide, water, methane, and other gases, along with a lot of dust. Dust hanging in the air colors Martian skies tan in photos taken from the surface.
ReplyDeleteRelative to Earth, the air on Mars is extremely thin. Standard sea-level air pressure on Earth is 1,013 millibars. On Mars the surface pressure varies through the year, but it averages 6 to 7 millibars. That's less than one percent of sea level pressure here. To experience that pressure on Earth, you would need to go to an altitude of about 45 kilometers (28 miles). (Yes, you'll need a space suit to walk around on Mars.) The Martian surface pressure also varies due to elevation. For example, the lowest place on Mars lies in the Hellas impact basin, 7.2 km (4.4 mi) below "sea level." The pressure there averages about 14 millibars. But on top of Olympus Mons, 22 km (14 mi) high, the pressure is only 0.7 millibar.
How much carbon can you capture from an atmosphere 1% as dense as earth's? Know what a "tree line" is?
Between 30°N and 20°S, the treeline is roughly constant, between 3,500 and 4,000 metres (11,500 and 13,100 ft).
Even biologics on Earth cannot capture carbon above a certain elevation. I'm not saying that your idea isn't possible. I'm saying that it would take many orders of magnitude improvements in carbon capture technology.
...and Mars is just planet. perhaps it's not the best location for a colony, permanent or otherwise.
ReplyDeleteI suppose you could build a base at the South Pole of Mars and just "scoop up" the frozen CO2, but It's pretty cold there most the year...
ReplyDeleteThe deep cold southern polar winter removes CO2 gas from the atmosphere by freezing it directly onto the south polar cap. As temperatures drop below –123° Celsius (–189° Fahrenheit), CO2 freezes out as frost, snow, or ice. This causes air pressure all over Mars to drop by 25% to 30%. Another way to understand this is that atmospheric pressure changes as the top layer of one polar cap migrates to the opposite polar cap in the form of air — and then migrates back half a Mars year later.
The O2 can come from the CO2, but where will the hydrogen for water come from?
ReplyDelete\\Mars' atmosphere however is 95% carbon dioxide,
ReplyDeleteThat's it... lots of raw material. ;-)
\\along with a lot of dust.
And nobody tested what that dust consist of?
\\How much carbon can you capture from an atmosphere 1% as dense as earth's?
Have better idea?
Well... it depend on how successfully you'd be able to multiply capturing devices.
In my case -- that is case of feeding, controlling growth of photosyntetic bacterias. ;-)
I think that's nearly 100% of efficiency quotient possible in general. ;-P
\\Even biologics on Earth cannot capture carbon above a certain elevation.
In a controlled environment? Where temperature and pressure will be suiting?
Of course my idea not about sawing surface of Mars with bacteria.
Just one of possible way... to make use of resources at hand.
I mentioned -- because my tech CAN make use out of such resources -- to create some polimers... then to create more flexible robots.
\\The O2 can come from the CO2, but where will the hydrogen for water come from?
ReplyDeleteWho needs water??? Kidding.
And what that dust consist?
Can it be there are some carboxile groups? ;-)
What organic compounds are found on Mars?
Perseverance rover digs up diverse set of organic molecules ...
NASA's Perseverance rover has found a diverse menagerie of organic molecules in a Martian crater, a new study reports. Organic compounds are molecules composed of carbon, and often include other elements such as hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, phosphorus and sulfur.
Perseverance rover digs up diverse set of organic molecules on Mars
\\...and Mars is just planet. perhaps it's not the best location for a colony, permanent or otherwise.
ReplyDeleteMercury is better?
Or maybe Venus? ;-)
Well... it's tricky... but I think my tech compatible with Venus too.
To make robots not on surface... but while floating in the sky...
Go try to imagine ANY OTHER way. ;-)
Is the Martian environment currently suitable for producing any organic compounds... or are the Martian samples detected "fossils" from ancient times when Mars had both atmosphere and surface water?
ReplyDeleteI have no expertise or special knowledge at all in this.
I'm familiar with the challenges to Venus. It's like trying to live in the superheated steam in a steam generators boiler. Electronics do not fair well in the heat and pressures involved.
ReplyDeleteMore on Venus.
ReplyDelete\\Is the Martian environment currently suitable for producing any organic compounds...
ReplyDeleteWhatever.
I mean controlled envitonment.
In vitro.
In vitro (Latin for "in glass"; often not italicized in English usage) studies are conducted using components of an organism that have been isolated from their usual biological surroundings, such as microorganisms, cells, or biological molecules.
\\or are the Martian samples detected "fossils" from ancient times when Mars had both atmosphere and surface water?
ReplyDeleteWho knows...
but given with how long it took here on Earth.
It's doubtful that something more than bacteria was there...
But I mean to take our earthling there. Of course.
\\I'm familiar with the challenges to Venus. It's like trying to live in the superheated steam in a steam generators boiler. Electronics do not fair well in the heat and pressures involved.
Well... but its atmosphere is much more thick
And not that hot... up there.
It has it's own challenges. 85% of sunlight blocked by clouds (solar arrays less efficient) And what's the atmospheric pressure (where temps are good)? And do I really want to be where all the sulphuric acid is concentrated?
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ReplyDeleteThe clouds of Venus are made up of droplets of concentrated sulfuric acid (H2SO4). The cloud layer begins about 30km above the surface of Venus, and ends at about 60km above the surface. Below the cloud layer (0-30km above the surface of Venus) the atmosphere includes a “haze” of sulfuric acid droplets.
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One word -- synergy.
ReplyDeleteSynergy is an interaction or cooperation giving rise to a whole that is greater than the simple sum of its parts. The term synergy comes from the Attic Greek word συνεργία synergia[1] from synergos, συνεργός, meaning "working together".
In the natural world, synergistic phenomena are ubiquitous, ranging from physics (for example, the different combinations of quarks that produce protons and neutrons) to chemistry (a popular example is water, a compound of hydrogen and oxygen), to the cooperative interactions among the genes in genomes, the division of labor in bacterial colonies, the synergies of scale in multicellular organisms, as well as the many different kinds of synergies produced by socially-organized groups, from honeybee colonies to wolf packs and human societies: compare stigmergy, a mechanism of indirect coordination between agents or actions that results in the self-assembly of complex systems. Even the tools and technologies that are widespread in the natural world represent important sources of synergistic effects. The tools that enabled early hominins to become systematic big-game hunters is a primordial human example.[4][5]
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ReplyDeleteThe term synergy was refined by R. Buckminster Fuller, who analyzed some of its implications more fully[10] and coined the term synergetics.[10]
A dynamic state in which combined action is favored over the difference of individual component actions.
Behavior of whole systems unpredicted by the behavior of their parts taken separately, known as emergent behavior.
The cooperative action of two or more stimuli (or drugs), resulting in a different or greater response than that of the individual stimuli.
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How about Stigmergy to create synergy instead? A horizontal rhizomic loosely organizational structure instead of a vertical hierarchical highly organized one. A Starfish (or Wikipedia page) being the result of one. In other words, an APP.
ReplyDeleteAnd what I was talking about... whole this year. ;-)
ReplyDeleteYou think scientific/technological breakthrough can be achieved any other way??? %-)
Like for example Scunk Workshop was working.
Or ANY decent modern programmers team -- with a dashboard of current task... on which every ant/programmer can sniff some pheromones -- what to do next.
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A skunkworks project is a project developed by a relatively small and loosely structured group of people who research and develop a project, often with a ...
Skunkworks projects are highly compartmentalized and classified. It's the opposite of stigmergy or open source development. The U2 spyplane was fitted with a self-destruct mechanism, and pilots (like Powers) given cyanide pills to self-destruct the pilot rather than allow their secrets to be revealed.
ReplyDeleteWhat you need is a website and an APP. It's up to you whether you think password protection would help.
ReplyDelete\\Skunkworks projects are highly compartmentalized and classified. It's the opposite of stigmergy or open source development.
ReplyDeleteWell... open source not suiting to anything else but copycating. :-(
\\What you need is a website and an APP. It's up to you whether you think password protection would help.
I know enough AND about websites. AND about apps. Did em myself.
But I dunno what you mean.
Heh. :-(
You need a lot of brains? They need a place to work, and store their work. An APP would give them access to their work space and info needed. How that workspace would be compartmentalized to prevent "copycatting" and how musch information access hey had would be entirely up to the APP developer and site maintainer.
ReplyDeleteYeah...
ReplyDeleteand I know a DOZEN of tryes. Unsuccessful.
So, tell me more -- what is your idea, and why it should work? ;-)
There are no guarantees to work... you have no sponsors or "angel" investors.
ReplyDeleteBut start with a plan for developing a mission statement of science requirements/ objectives (system operating in its' deployed environments), create a project plan, then then develop your APP that will allow you to proceed to developing system requirements and a decomposition process based upon an agreed to conceptual architecture), (distribution of requirements to notional hardware elements), and then develop a system specification from requirements and begin system design. Schedule periodic "team" reviews, and iterate with corrections. Start with Level 0, then levels 1, 2, then 3,4,5... etc. Teams break into smaller and smaller "specialized" groupings at each level. The team participants must select a role upon joining (organizational breakdown structure), and assign themselves to specific hardware elements on specific Work Breakdown Structure (WBS) levels, just like you would on any large-scale project. Teams would have to provide compatible computer models and simulations then breadboards that proved the concepts through each TRL level.
You'd also need a parallel crowd funding effort for when breadboards and independent research and development (IRAD) efforts to solve tech problems.
Google Science Requirements Document for examples.
ReplyDeleteYou should also probably canvass "emeritus" retirees using your plan. A few high-profile names backing you couldn't hurt, especially in the beginning.
ReplyDelete...but what you can't do is show up without the minimum of an elevator pitch package. It needs to grab their imaginations in as few slides as possible. A more extensive sales package will also be required, once you've set the hook.
ReplyDelete...a bit-flip from a single event upset event?
ReplyDeleteIt's often better to be lucky, than skilled. ;)
btw- How is your 3-D printing idea working out?
ReplyDelete\\btw- How is your 3-D printing idea working out?
ReplyDeleteHeh. How nice and simple it would be... if it'll be just about 3D-printing... :-(((
\\ ...but what you can't do is show up without the minimum of an elevator pitch package.
ReplyDeleteIt's what I trying to devise.
Well... do you know that story about Nikola Tesla?
I think it's one that cannot avoid anybody with engineering vibe.
But.
Results are unsettling. He was simulataneously -- have had need to be flashy, to attract public.
And to compensate for it -- he became overly romantic -- with trying to push unpractical ideas.
And you know what was the end? :-(((
Dead elephants? ;)
ReplyDeleteyour idea will kill millions of jobs. The knives will be ALL out.
Tesla was under capitalized.
ReplyDeleteSound familiar?
ReplyDelete\\your idea will kill millions of jobs. The knives will be ALL out.
ReplyDeleteWhat jobs?
Peering int little rectangles in own hands and swiping? ;-P
I am not a concurrent to em. :-)))))
Then you're lucky... we'll see.
ReplyDeleteFuture... is Foreign Land.
ReplyDeleteNo matter who you are.
Conservative. Or progressive...
I... DUNNO how it works???
ReplyDeleteLike what made Kennedy said that words: "we'll do that not because it's easy, but because it's hard".
I know, I know, that was because some smart dude from USSR (Ukrainian, actually) came up with idea of how to throw into space... a transceiver.
But how that dude came up to THAT idea. And HOW such a dreamer was able to push it into narrow sculls of "decision makers"?
Well... we know it too -- because they saw stark example of ballistic bombing of London.
So, how that nasty evil geniuses came up to that idea?
Because of whole bunch of dreamers... came up with roadmaps. Tsiolkovsky, Goddard and etc.
And that one... was reading Vern's "Travel to the Moon"...
Huh.
But where it was -- that decisive moment? That crucial point?
War?
But we have other examples -- like that same Edison&Tesla -- which was not about war at all.
Or... Fulton, who tried to solicit Napoleon... but how it helped him?
So.
How it works. What is path of success on that road.
I... totally clueless. :-(((
As to the pitch.
ReplyDeleteSeed/Ovo sent to other stars. To sprout there... into anything we like. How (non)interesting it can be?
But... let's for now stop that waterfall of questions like "and how that seed would work???"
Let's assume that we have it. Like grain of sand size. Or chicken egg size. Or... somewhat bigger.
And we can throw it into Space... this or that way.
But.
Here's a catch -- even if we'd be able to do that with utmost precision. It would not be possible.
Because.
1) All kind of fluctuations will derail it in process of flight. Even through our own Solar system.
2) We... do not know movement of target stars... with any such precision, too.
3) That seed must aim not at some star... what's the point? To burn in it's heat? ;-P
But it must be able to found and settle on some rock there, in that solar system far-far away.
Which means -- we need Galactic GPS -- whole system of stations and space telescopes, and interpherometers OUT THERE.
Can we do that?
Waterfall of questions again. ;-)
But let gag em too.
Because the answer is in our hands -- to make it possible, we need to appropriate OUR own Solar system resources... for anything like that could be possible.
And that appropriation... would be best possible with a way of sending that same Seeds/Ovos... of previous, more primitive versions.
But.
That same catch again -- you know -- we'd need OUR Solar system GPS, for that.
Which means lots of same... stations and space telescopes, and interpherometers OUT THERE.
Which reduces it to the question -- we need CHEAP. Much cheaper then anything what we have today -- way to throwing mass into Space.
But.
We know a way, isn't it? That decades long bright idea of space lifts?
But.
Do we have materials? Architectural ideas? Realistic projects?
Actually. We have.
Would I startle you here, if I'd say that same Seed/Ovo capabilities... could be of great use HERE on Earth?
Imagine.
You plant a Seed.
And it sprouts into solar collectors to have energy. Roots into grounds to have raw material and to have firm base. Then, starting to grow a trunk... up into Space. ;-)
PS How is this pitch to you. ;-)
I deem it that overly obvious -- that must be very competent and non-orthodox listeners.
To not shuddup it on the first sentence. First slide.
And actually listen to. And understand. That that is not only possible... but also thoroughly practical, if not only possible way... of achieving such goals... "not because they easy, but because they are hard". Period.
I'm still not giving you my cow, Jack. :P
ReplyDeleteAs for galactic GPS, we already have one. :)
ReplyDeleteThe surplus funds from my first Explorers mission (ACE) went to funding XTE.
ReplyDeleteMy bad, XTE's surplus funds went to funding ACE. ACE's surplus funds funded FUSE. My memory's fading on projects I didn't work on directly (XTE/ FUSE).
ReplyDeleteI think ACE came in $30m UNDER budget. It launched 1 day late though. Damn fishing boat. :(
ReplyDelete\\As for galactic GPS, we already have one. :)
ReplyDeleteAnd how'd it work around Proxima Centaura? ;-P
BTW.
ReplyDeleteWhy Captha asking me about palm trees??? Are they of some special importance?
For car riding.
It won't be 1m resolution. The ovo will need lidar for that.
ReplyDeleteI hardly ever do Captcha anymore. I just click the "I'm not a robot" box... and it knows. Ai (palm trees) must be getting better at defeating it.
ReplyDelete\\It won't be 1m resolution. The ovo will need lidar for that.
ReplyDeleteTo build map of inner structure of a distant solar system?
To find some tiny but tasty pieces... like comet bodies. ;-)
That would need a greed of telescopes of thousand or million Hubbles.
Or even better.
Well, it would be needed even in our solar system.
To map everything. To track traffic of numerous probes and tugs with loads...
...billions of stars. Best start with the local bubble.
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ReplyDeleteHeh... while we not have CHEAP way to lift mass from gravity well down here... :-(((
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