“They saw their injured country's woe;
The flaming town, the wasted field;
Then rushed to meet the insulting foe;
They took the spear, - but left the shield.”
―Philip Freneau
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And by a prudent flight and cunning save A life which valour could not, from the grave. A better buckler I can soon regain, But who can get another life again?
Archilochus
Tuesday, April 22, 2025
Out of Beer!
55 comments:
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//-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA JewApril 21, 2025 at 1:20 PM Each piece (on its' own) will not work. Blend parts of them together.... who knows. I think that there are some good ideas there.
That's... looks like that same thing I tripping over in conversation with you. Again and again.
You seems like don't get what sistemic view and meta-thinking. And I cannot teach you. And not out of bad feelings. I just not a didactic type of a guy. I "follow my lead" guy.
Online Etymology Dictionary https://www.etymonline.com Etymology and meaning of the prefix "meta-" by etymonline meta-. word-forming element of Greek origin meaning 1. "after, behind; among, between," 2. "changed, altered," 3. "higher, beyond;" from
I might be to be upset, but strangelly enough I find your non-understanding the same or even more interesting. Then agreement.
What is the reason of it? While I thought that I was pretty damn clear +- that there no "king's path"s from here to there. That NO modern tech can help to build an Ovo.
SAME as NO available tech and tools would allow brothers Write to make F-22. Or Black Bird, if you like. Or even Messershmit 109.
Only some toy-like construct out if wood planks, fabric and some nails. ;-p
But. Wasn't obvious -- that their design are grandpa of all modern flying machines?
Isn't Gershenfeld trying to ID the twenty building blocks needed for a universal constructor, for all machines? And from then on won't there always be an "outside" need to set goals for them... to serve as a source of "desire" that non-biologics don't have?
Exploring non-understanding(khm, interesting etymology of this word -- staying under... for recieving knowlage, didn't you think about it? how weird it might be looking?;-) seems like darn interesting thing. As in others, as in oneself. But to do that in oneself, one need to have very kin eye. As, one who observe knowing will be different person from previous non-knowing.
I remember my own struggles to understand how computer works (without access to any one, just from books) and what I was doing (playing with cards). But... after gaining understanding -- I lost track if what I did not understand previously.
And in other people. It seems on misstaking words for a things. Or... broken model of reality.
Like just recently, one dude was unable to understand what Wi-Fi is. Though that is just a way of transmission data over radio waves.
And he even have proper education and really understand what radiowaves is.
But. Are not that kin with computers. So, when I was talking about MHzs and GHzs he wad able to grasp it. But. When I mentioned Wi-Fi working over that broadband, his response was like: "Why you kidding me??? Wi-Fi is totally another thing!".
So far the evolution of all mechanical devices has really been the evolution of humans. Wouldn't it be nice if they evolved themselves. But they don't face threats, like "predators" that they need to 'adapt' to survive from. Their only worries are the external human parasites that seem to infect them... and do all their evolutionary duties for them... reproduction/ survival of the useful/ etc.
And as a technologist, shouldn't your focus be on extending this cyborg evolutionary process? The "old fashioned" way... trying to develop the "next step" to fulfill an immediate human need, and not trying to be a Wright brother trying to invent technology for an F-22?
Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org Konstantin Tsiolkovsky His works later inspired Wernher von Braun and leading ... Tsiolkovsky influenced later rocket scientists throughout Europe, including Wernher ...
It has to. It's the first step of creating any society, especially if its' to be based in Natural Law and not legal positivism (which proscribes any "negative liberties" (as once existed in USA before everything became kitschy)
That's the problem, technology is advancing faster than epistemology (common understanding) can advance and incorporate it. In that respect it is "beyond the law". Not even "legal positivists" can keep up with it.
Well, I just a miserly anon and lowly barbarian from outskirts of Civilization. Even if able to talk in High Speach. ;-p
Well. Anyway. You already know MY answer to such questions (even though trying to ignore and evade it) -- became SMARTER, through practicing breakthrough tech(s?).
55 comments:
//-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA JewApril 21, 2025 at 1:20 PM
Each piece (on its' own) will not work. Blend parts of them together.... who knows. I think that there are some good ideas there.
That's... looks like that same thing I tripping over in conversation with you. Again and again.
You seems like don't get what sistemic view and meta-thinking.
And I cannot teach you. And not out of bad feelings. I just not a didactic type of a guy. I "follow my lead" guy.
About video.
You din't get what you see too.
Because folk music... it just unexisting in US.
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So what is meta-thinking to you? Schizoid (horizontal)(before power represses the flows of desire) or hierarchical (after power represses the flows)?
Yes, its' been replaced by "kitsch" in many countries, but the US in particular.
It's why the old left (steeped in folk music) were so upset when Bob Dylan went "electric". Kafka "Josephine" wasn't allowed to go 'electric".
Workers don't have the time to create folk music. Not enough "idleness".
So our so-called "culture" is manufactured for us by the Culture Industry and Hollywood as "kitsch".
Next floor of the Tower of Babilon, isn't that obvious?
Online Etymology Dictionary
https://www.etymonline.com
Etymology and meaning of the prefix "meta-" by etymonline
meta-. word-forming element of Greek origin meaning 1. "after, behind; among, between," 2. "changed, altered," 3. "higher, beyond;" from
I might be to be upset, but strangelly enough I find your non-understanding the same or even more interesting. Then agreement.
What is the reason of it? While I thought that I was pretty damn clear +- that there no "king's path"s from here to there. That NO modern tech can help to build an Ovo.
SAME as NO available tech and tools would allow brothers Write to make F-22. Or Black Bird, if you like. Or even Messershmit 109.
Only some toy-like construct out if wood planks, fabric and some nails. ;-p
But. Wasn't obvious -- that their design are grandpa of all modern flying machines?
Well.
This video is exactly is a kitch.
Yawn.
So what "power" is repressing it, forcing it higher?
Isn't Gershenfeld trying to ID the twenty building blocks needed for a universal constructor, for all machines? And from then on won't there always be an "outside" need to set goals for them... to serve as a source of "desire" that non-biologics don't have?
Isn't that where the "meta" comes in? From post-modern to meta-modern? From a single power to multiple powers. To many futures, and not just one.
And why any of that should be important???
Universal constructors? Desires? Etc, etc, etc???
//So what "power" is repressing it, forcing it higher?
Not power.
Angle from which you are looking at it.
You can look at world from the level if grass roots (it's how you like to look at it, it seems)
Or... with hawks eye, from up-up over here.
;-)
Exploring non-understanding(khm, interesting etymology of this word -- staying under... for recieving knowlage, didn't you think about it? how weird it might be looking?;-) seems like darn interesting thing.
As in others, as in oneself.
But to do that in oneself, one need to have very kin eye.
As, one who observe knowing will be different person from previous non-knowing.
I remember my own struggles to understand how computer works (without access to any one, just from books) and what I was doing (playing with cards).
But... after gaining understanding -- I lost track if what I did not understand previously.
And in other people. It seems on misstaking words for a things. Or... broken model of reality.
Like just recently, one dude was unable to understand what Wi-Fi is. Though that is just a way of transmission data over radio waves.
And he even have proper education and really understand what radiowaves is.
But. Are not that kin with computers. So, when I was talking about MHzs and GHzs he wad able to grasp it.
But. When I mentioned Wi-Fi working over that broadband, his response was like: "Why you kidding me??? Wi-Fi is totally another thing!".
:-)))))
So far the evolution of all mechanical devices has really been the evolution of humans. Wouldn't it be nice if they evolved themselves. But they don't face threats, like "predators" that they need to 'adapt' to survive from. Their only worries are the external human parasites that seem to infect them... and do all their evolutionary duties for them... reproduction/ survival of the useful/ etc.
Mechanical evolution (technology) is human.
A Cyborg Symbiosis
Remember the V'ger Star Trek I movie... We are the "carbon units infesting Enterprise".
Machines searching for their "creator" like humans reaching out to god, (or my Deist G_d).
Well, yeah... antropocentrism.
Again.
Yawn.
And as a technologist, shouldn't your focus be on extending this cyborg evolutionary process? The "old fashioned" way... trying to develop the "next step" to fulfill an immediate human need, and not trying to be a Wright brother trying to invent technology for an F-22?
There is a natural "order of things" that you're trying to anticipate and invent.... circumvent. Like Pre-Crime.
An assembly order that uses available materials and develops the "code" (RNA/DNA) one step at a time.
Trying to build paradigms without consideration of the limitations of epistemes.
Bad link, above.
//And as a technologist, shouldn't your focus be on extending this cyborg evolutionary process?
Like with what? With proposing to people what they want -- more tools for killing each other?
Killing is only one desire. Pick another.
//and not trying to be a Wright brother trying to invent technology for an F-22?
That was not my choice.
Same as that was not Lem's choice -- to write about it in his Summa Technologia and Golem XIV.
Same way as... do you know about Tsiolkovski?
Poor village teacher... that leapfroged von Braun
With his ideas about rising into Space in rockets...
comfort. luxury. wealth. status. There are many more to choose from.
Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org
Konstantin Tsiolkovsky
His works later inspired Wernher von Braun and leading ... Tsiolkovsky influenced later rocket scientists throughout Europe, including Wernher ...
Or if your Ovo still haunts you, do as Lem did... write inspirational/ aspirational SciFi. Exhortations to virtue.
//comfort. luxury. wealth. status. There are many more to choose from.
Recieve yet one moon-smack from Bruce Lee.
Deist, my ass. ;-p
And.
Maslov's Pyramid... up inside your rectum. ;-p
//Or if your Ovo still haunts you, do as Lem did...
If your deism haunts you... ;-p
...and Lindy's up inside yours.
If I understanding that Lindy correctly, it already living there, fulltime, in all living things. ;-p
It has to. It's the first step of creating any society, especially if its' to be based in Natural Law and not legal positivism (which proscribes any "negative liberties" (as once existed in USA before everything became kitschy)
That's the problem, technology is advancing faster than epistemology (common understanding) can advance and incorporate it. In that respect it is "beyond the law". Not even "legal positivists" can keep up with it.
The harm is done before the law can outlaw it.
Yep.
People dieing. Children dieing. Is not a problem.
Some mumbo-jumbo (like is dRamp a felon?) -- THAT is THE problem.
Sigh.
Problem of our civilization -- being TOO civil. Up to loosing sync with Reality.
That's it.
Hardly I can CARE about anything like that.
Well, I just a miserly anon and lowly barbarian from outskirts of Civilization. Even if able to talk in High Speach. ;-p
Well. Anyway. You already know MY answer to such questions (even though trying to ignore and evade it) -- became SMARTER, through practicing breakthrough tech(s?).
Cloud Serf kitsch. :)
Cloud Serf Profilicity.
Ah, Japanese Anime... the "god view".
...and in fossils, apparently. Too bad your ovo don't harvest it and and build the protein factories needed to restore the extinct species from it.
...in some grand Easter resurrection!
The World is Will to power. And you, too, are that Will to power. - Nietzsche
And since truth is alchemy, all it takes is power to sustain it.
Become the tyrant, and all your dreams will come true. And the Law can be your tyrant, provided you're willing to use it.
...just don't forget to payoff the Praetorians with surplus salaries! Your life is in their hands.
You just want to be the New Balkans...
???
Yeah.
You just fear to became smarter.
Boooring.;-p
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