Synarchism generally means "joint rule" or "harmonious rule". Beyond this general definition, both synarchism and synarchy have been used to denote rule by a secret elite in Vichy France, Italy, China, and Hong Kong, while also being used to describe a pro-Catholic theocracy movement in Mexico.[1]
Origins
The earliest recorded use of the term synarchy is attributed to Thomas Stackhouse (1677–1752), an English clergyman who used the word in his New History of the Holy Bible from the Beginning of the World to the Establishment of Christianity (published in two folio volumes in 1737). The attribution can be found in the Webster's Dictionary (the American Dictionary of the English Language, published by Noah Webster in 1828). Webster's definition for synarchy is limited entirely to "joint rule or sovereignty". The word is derived from the Greek stems syn meaning "with" or "together" and archy meaning "rule".
The most substantial early use of the word synarchy comes from the writings of Alexandre Saint-Yves d'Alveydre (1842–1909), who used the term in his book La France vraie to describe what he believed was the ideal form of government.[2] In reaction to the emergence of anarchist ideologies and movements, Saint-Yves elaborated a political formula which he believed would lead to a harmonious society. He defended social differentiation and hierarchy with collaboration between social classes, transcending conflict between social and economic groups: synarchy, as opposed to anarchy. Specifically, Saint-Yves envisioned a Federal Europe (as well as all the states it has integrated) with a corporatist government composed of three councils, one for academia, one for the judiciary, and one for commerce.[3]
Rule by a secret elite
The word synarchy is used, especially among French and Spanish speakers, to describe a shadow government or deep state, a form of government where political power effectively rests with a secret elite, in contrast to an oligarchy where the elite is or could be known by the public.[4]
Pacte Synarchique
The Pacte Synarchique is a historical theory that the surrender of Vichy France was as a result of a conspiracy by French industrial and banking interests to surrender France to Hitler in order to fight Communism. The original Pacte was supposedly discovered after the death in 1941 of Jean Coutrot, former member of Groupe X-Crise. According to this document, a Mouvement Synarchique d'Empire had been founded in 1922 with the aim of abolishing parliamentarianism and replacing it with synarchy. A Vichy investigation[5] found no evidence for the Mouvement Synarchiste d'Empire existence. Most of the presumed synarchists were either associated with the Banque Worms or with Groupe X-Crise and were close to Admiral François Darlan the Vichy prime minister (1941–1942). Most historians agree that the Pacte was a hoax created by some French collaborators with Nazi Germany to weaken Darlan and his Vichy technocrats.[6]
Lyndon LaRouche
Lyndon LaRouche, leader of the LaRouche movement, described a wide-ranging historical phenomenon, starting with Alexandre Saint-Yves d'Alveydre and the Martinist Order followed by important individuals, organizations, movements and regimes that are alleged to have been synarchist, including the government of Nazi Germany.[7] He claimed that during the Great Depression an international coalition of financial institutions, raw materials cartels, and intelligence operatives installed fascist regimes throughout Europe (and tried to do so in Mexico) to maintain world order and prevent the repudiation of international debts.[8] LaRouche identified the former U.S. vice president and former PNAC member Dick Cheney as a modern "synarchist", and claimed that "synarchists" have "a scheme for replacing regular military forces of nations, by private armies in the footsteps of a privately financed international Waffen-SS like scheme, a force deployed by leading financier institutions, such as the multi-billions funding by the U.S. Treasury, of Cheney's Halliburton gang."[9]
The Technological Singularity, AGI, and the Death of Materialism and need for a Materialist Critique of Capitalism. The Arrival of Fully Automated LUXURY Space Communism begins... but does a Critique of Materially-Liberated Hegelian Idealism now begin? Or through the death of "property" and new politics of abundance (vs. scarcity) has the natural opposition within Virtue (Courage:Temperance::Justice:Wisdom) finally ended?
Then why does Star Fleet still need Hierarchy/ Rank? Is it purely Formal? Or is it a neccesity for "Intelligence" proper (as the judgemental component needed for action (Courage:Temperance)) Acta non Verba!
Is this then the end of "subjectivity"? Has everything now become "objective" (no separation between verba and acta? Will our genetic code enscript the new signal algorithm? Quantum Code... GCAT... Quaternions... Twistors
//Significance:
ReplyDeleteBohr saw complementarity as a fundamental limitation of human understanding and language when describing the quantum world, suggesting that classical concepts fail at this scale, necessitating this holistic, non-classical view.
Yawn.
"wisdoms of the past..."
In reality, we have it "quantum" every day.
Like imagine that you agreed with a pal to go check some pub.
If you'd come with him together -- youd know detailed path hed be going... but not precise time you'll arrive there, or even if youll arrive at all(if youll change your mind on the pub)
Or... youd know place and time of pub you agreed to meet.... but not detailed path of your pal there. ;-)
if you'd agree on time and place, but will go there seprately.
DeleteAll what separates you from "trully quantum" is just that clause that rarely emrges in classical newtonian world before our eyes -- you need to be indestinguishably identical with your pal
Like electron or any other "quantum particle" are.
But, meh, you consist of miriads of miriads of electrons (and protons and etc) inside atoms.
So, that is enough reason for you to NOT be like electron, isn't it?
Want.... Panpsychism?
Delete...in the "quantum leap" between energy states?
DeleteMakes me think that its' simply pulling photons out of the "vacuum (zero point) energy" when it reverts from high to low energy state.
Google AI: Vacuum energy is the energy present in "empty" space, arising from quantum fluctuations where virtual particles constantly pop in and out of existence, creating a baseline energy level known as zero-point energy. This inherent energy has a constant density, exerts negative pressure, and acts as a repulsive force, causing the universe's expansion to accelerate, making it a leading candidate for dark energy, although theoretical calculations vastly exceed observations, creating the cosmological constant problem.
Photons = E/M radiation.
Delete...from the vacuum (zero point) energy field. And gravity is the "twistor" that draws in and annihilates the matter into the EM field.
Delete//Want.... Panpsychism?
DeleteHow come? How it relates?
//...from the vacuum (zero point) energy field. And gravity is the "twistor" that draws in and annihilates the matter into the EM field.
DeleteWords, words, words... that's just words. Yawn.
Want/ Panpsychism - Must all "Systems of Systems" be conscious? Must they be conscious "subjects" and not mere inanimate "objects"? (Many Solar Systems within a Galactic System).
Delete..and yes, words, speculations, musings are all that... words.
DeleteNot exactly.
DeleteI pointing to that effect when people (falsely? can you rebute it?) treat words as first rate citizens.
Which produces magical thinking -- (stoopid(?) idea that Reality can be influenced, can be swayed into submission... with words alone.
Human communication starts with words, but yes, experiments are needed to prove them. But it starts with words, and new words from the accidents that the experiments produce. it's an "iterative" process.
DeleteNobody starts with the perfect pot. You have to shape and fire many pots to produce a better quality one. They don't emerge ex nihilo
DeleteBingo!
DeleteNow you separately came to MY resolution -- that we need to bootstrap (programmers terminology) that experimenting process. ;-)
ReplyDeleteQuestion -- will that system of a systems will even WANT to dive back into gravity well...
What for? While all resources and energy is on the orbit. And there's plenty of em. And they freely available.
And Venus... can be at all dismantled. From orbit.
At first, robbed of it's gases. Then, after orbital bombarment. Robbed of crust.
And... who know what else ;-)
January 14, 2026 at 1:43 PM
-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew
Phase 1?
Phase of what?
Of your project. Ocean/ seas. You won't be extracting resources from Venus... what resources are you exploiting in Phase 1? What 'environments" will you exploit for their "factory-like" properties? Stirling engines exploit temperature differentials. So where would you place a Stirling engine? Optical Resonator/mirrors? And crystal medium to excite? The cooling mechanism can exploit the same Stirling engine delta T's. Of course, "assembly" would likely occur in the selected location.
DeleteBlack holes probably just feed the zero point energy vacuum of space (matter flows in and gets annihilated and redistributed)
Delete...the "source" of entropy.
DeleteSorry... just "free associating".
DeleteYeah. You still thinking inside box... of previous. Or even pre-previous technological revolution.
DeleteYawn.
Where The Engine was the king...
DeleteMitochondria aren't a cell's engines (powerhouse)? You can do work w/o power?
DeleteMitochondria are vital organelles in most eukaryotic cells, known as the "powerhouses" that convert food into ATP (chemical energy) through cellular respiration, powering cell activities. They have their own DNA, are inherited maternally, and manage cell death, signaling, and metabolism, with dysfunction linked to various diseases. Structurally, they feature an outer membrane, an inner folded membrane (cristae), and a central matrix, generating energy via the electron transport chain.
DeleteKey Functions
Energy Production: Generate most of the cell's ATP (adenosine triphosphate) through oxidative phosphorylation, using sugar and oxygen.
Cellular Signaling: Produce signaling molecules that regulate various bodily functions.
Cell Death (Apoptosis): Play a crucial role in initiating programmed cell death to remove damaged cells.
Metabolism & Heat: Involved in heat production and managing calcium signaling, growth, and differentiation.
Structure & Genetics
Double Membrane: Composed of an outer membrane and a highly folded inner membrane (cristae) that increases surface area.
Matrix: The inner space containing enzymes and mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA).
Own DNA: Possess their own small, circular DNA, separate from the nucleus, inherited solely from the mother.
Location & Numbers
Found in the cytoplasm (fluid) surrounding the nucleus in most eukaryotic cells (animals, plants, fungi).
Cells with high energy needs (like muscle or nerve cells) have thousands of mitochondria.
Clinical Relevance
Mitochondrial dysfunction is implicated in fatigue, neurodegenerative diseases, metabolic disorders, and aging.
Mutations in mtDNA can cause serious diseases, making mitochondria a focus for new treatments.
My thought is to use a thermal difference in stage 1 at a geothermal vent at ocean floor (hot) and surrounding ocean water (cold) to "power" an Ovo-like reproduction factory using a locally produced Stirling Engine type "mitochondria" structure based design.
DeleteYeah. All question is -- where to grab that *PROGRAM* to orchestrate it all apropriately???
DeleteYou have a "curious" program that explores it's own curiosity and seeks to validate its' suppositions?
DeleteMy DNA? @@
DeleteThat's just the cybernetic algorithm library your cells access when they have a problem to solve. And even then, they're all specialists that focus on a specific RNA strand. They're not curious. They're "need" driven. The 'curiosity" is in the bio-electric communication field between cells that tries to locate the solutions (new proteins?)
DeleteProteins, essential for nearly all cellular functions, cause major health problems when they are misfolded, mutated, aggregated, or wrongly located, often leading to diseases like Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, and cancers. These abnormal proteins disrupt cellular processes, build up in the wrong places, or fail to perform their functions. Key issues include protein folding errors, failure of quality control (e.g., in the ER), and overactive degradation machinery like valosin-containing protein (VCP).
Key Problems with Proteins in Cells
Protein Misfolding & Aggregation: When proteins fail to adopt their correct shape, they can become unstable and aggregate. This is a hallmark of neurodegenerative diseases, including Alzheimer's disease (beta-amyloid), Parkinson's (alpha-synuclein), and Huntington's.
Genetic Mutations: Inherited or acquired mutations in DNA can cause cells to produce defective or nonfunctional proteins.
Errors in Trafficking/Sorting: Proteins may be produced correctly but fail to reach their proper cellular destination, leading to dysfunction in the endoplasmic reticulum (ER) or other organelles.
Proteotoxicity and Degradation Failure: If the cellular "cleanup crew" (proteasomes or autophagy) fails to break down misfolded proteins, they accumulate, triggering cellular damage.
Overexpression or Underexpression: An imbalance in protein levels, such as the overproduction of oncogenes in cancer or underproduction leading to deficiency disorders, can disrupt cellular homeostasis.
Impact on Cell Function
Cellular Stress & Death: Accumulated proteins can cause excessive stress, triggering apoptosis (programmed cell death).
Loss of Function: If a critical enzyme or structural protein is misfolded, the cell loses that specific function.
Disrupted Communication: Misfolded proteins can interfere with signal transduction pathways.
Common Protein-Related Diseases
Neurodegenerative Diseases: Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, Huntington's, and Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis (ALS).
Metabolic & Genetic Disorders: Type 2 diabetes (amylin accumulation), Cystic Fibrosis (misfolded CFTR protein), and Congenital Disorders of Glycosylation (CDG).
Systemic Amyloidosis: Conditions where insoluble protein fibers accumulate in tissues.
Scientific Solutions
Nanoparticle Therapeutics: New research suggests using smart nanoparticles to destroy disease-causing proteins that are currently resistant to drugs.
Chaperone Therapy: Assisting the folding process with chaperone proteins to prevent misfolding.
Protein Degradation Targeting: Developing drugs that boost the cell's ability to destroy abnormal proteins.
The cell's "problem" (not curiosity) drives the search for solutions, and inter-cellular communication (stress relief) is used to spread its' successful application.
Bioelectricty (stress) "alerts" and activates the other systems within the body's system to supply more/less flow of the substances they produce.
DeleteIt alters the "set points" in their control loops.
DeleteYeah.
DeleteStress hormones like cortisol, adrenaline, and norepinephrine, released during "fight-or-flight" responses, increase heart rate, blood pressure, and energy. Chronic elevation causes health issues. Anti-stress, or counter-regulatory, factors include DHEA, oxytocin, and neurotransmitters like serotonin and GABA, which reduce cortisol, promote relaxation, and aid recovery.
Delete//-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew
ReplyDeleteThat's the fear... that they'll eat "us".
Yeah. Fear is a mind-killer. Yawn.
Inside EXISTING ecosystem.
ReplyDeleteYawn.
January 14, 2026 at 1:49 PM
-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew
Being in the World... Dasein. In der welt sein
January 15, 2026 at 10:27 AM
-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew
Acquire capability A in Ecosystem A, and capability B in Ecosystem B... and Assemble (the whole is greater than the sum of its' parts).
It. Do not work lik that. Yawn.
Then how does it work. You build everything in a factory in St. louis?
DeleteIt needs a Super System. System of systems. To create special *nursing* ecosystem.
DeleteFor us, for all life on the Earth such supersystem became Ocean.
And then, it was upgraded into Biosphere with filling air with oxygen.
Yawn.
DeleteThe system described, where a capitalist pays workers with self-made tickets or vouchers redeemable only at a company store, is known as the truck system (or colloquially as the "cottage system" in some contexts). Marx and others condemned this practice as a form of exploitation designed to restrict worker autonomy and maximize capitalist profit.
Key Insights
Exploitation and Control: This practice forces workers to spend their wages at the capitalist's own store, where prices can be inflated, ensuring that the money (or its substitute) flows right back to the employer. This removes the worker's freedom to seek better value in an open market. <--- totally like USSR
Lack of Real Money: Marx emphasized that these vouchers are not actual money because they do not circulate freely as a universal equivalent of value in the broader economy. They represent a closed system of exchange that binds the worker to the capitalist.<--- totally like USSR
Historical Context: The truck system was a common method of exploitation during the early industrial revolution, particularly in isolated areas where a single factory or mine was the only source of employment.<--- totally like USSR
Marx's View: While Marx used examples of general exploitation under capitalism in works like Capital, the "sneaky bastard capitalist" anecdote you refer to is a general illustration of the specific mechanism of the truck system. He discussed the use of labor vouchers in a different context, as a potential temporary feature in the initial phase of a socialist society, but was highly critical of their use within a capitalist framework. <--- totally like your DEMN commies today
Yawn.
Then the Ocean floor is the perfect place. It uses heat from the earth's core (magma) and coolness from the Ocean System. Alternatively, you could use the ocean and atmospheric systems interface.... and throw in solar radiation to produce a photo-molecular effect.
DeleteSystem boundaries form the spaces in which "assemblages" from different systems can mingle... providing new problem solutions from different environments (Assembly Theory... Endosymbiosis)
Deletefrom the link: The idea of endosymbiosis offers a different lens through which to view the evolution of life on Earth: it turns “survival of the fittest” on its head, and suggests instead “survival of the most well-integrated team.”
Delete//Joe Conservative
ReplyDeleteSeems each of your "phases" might require different/ novel techs
January 14, 2026 at 9:32 AM
It will be called some other way.
Like "standard subroutings of Star Fleet". ;^)
Ahhh... "Fully Automated Space Communism"!
DeleteCommunism... it's just State Monopolistic Capitalism.
DeleteI'm not joking. Just go read Marx -- that page where he described difference between rreal money... and money substitutes.
Like about one snicky bustard capitalist, that started paying workers not with money (freely exchangable currency or products), but with special selfmade tickets that could be used to pay for things in that same snicky bustard shop. ;^p
Ah, but the USSR wasn't "International" enough (Trotsky vs. Stalin)... aka "true" communism. @@
DeleteYeah. "not true Scotsman" commie retort. Are you not fed up with that century old bollocks YET???
DeleteIsn't "Star Trek" the "True Scotsman"?
Delete...only global isn't a "big enough" scale. It has to be "inter-galactic" in scale... not just "international".
Delete...it's the opposite of my preferred "radical progressive" anti-fragile approach (smaller is better).
DeleteMine keeps the "intrinsic incentives" for self-improvement local.
Delete...within the "individual" and hos own SuperEgo/ Ego Ideal (vice "party" - The Government's "SuperEgo")
DeleteNation of "turn it to eleven". Yawn.
DeleteBOTH parties hate Trump. Hence the current "eleven" setting.
Deletefruits/ vegetables for nitrogen fertilizers and irrigation. ;)
DeleteOr as Deleuze/Guattari would say, "Lines of Flight within a rhizome"...
Delete//Where will you launch your Ovo, and where will it go?
ReplyDeleteIsn't answer damn too obvious -- wherever I want it.
In accordance with my "will to power".
Yawn.
January 14, 2026 at 9:37 AM
-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew
Too non-specific.
Like question -- like ansver.
There is no system to ask such questions... yet.
Space, the Final Frontier....
DeleteI'll wait for you at DS9... so we can "colonize" your discovered "Stange New Worlds"... and then decolonize everyone's heads. ;)
Maybe once we do that, we can ask more/ better questions.
DeleteLearn the silent presuppositions.
DeletePhilosophy isn't about answering questions, it's about asking the right questions. I'm still not asking them...
DeleteBecause not want to? Know the Truth?
DeleteBecause you following false, fake, phony philosophy "I better not... know anything"? ;^p
Maybe. Jouissance, like desire is a funny thing.
DeleteNaah, pal.
DeleteThat is self-preservation instinct.
You just have that gut feeling, that NEW information, NEW knowledge... can change YOU as you are today.
Axiological Barrier. Kinda like Supersonic Barrier.
Mentioned by Lem. Through his Golem. ;^)
You think that I need to surpass/ overcome myself? Become a self-surpassing UberMensch (Nietzsche)? That I'm the Parmidean/ deductive rope dancer poised between towers that needs an intuitive leap?
Delete“’What is great in man is that he is a bridge and not an end: what can be loved in man is that he is an overture and a going under.
“’I love those who do not know how to live, except by going under, for they are those who cross over. I love the great despisers because they are the great reverers and arrows of longing for the other shore. I love those who do not first seek behind the stars for a reason to go under and be a sacrifice, but who sacrifice themselves for the earth, that the earth may someday become the overman’s. I love him who lives to know, and who wants to know so that the overman may live some day. And thus he wants to go under.’” (I, page 127)
“For meanwhile the tight-rope walker had begun his performance: he had stepped out of a small door and was walking over the rope, stretched between two towers and suspended over the market place and the people. When he had reached the exact middle of the course the small door opened once more and a fellow in motley clothes, looking like a jester, jumped out and followed the first one with quick steps….he uttered a devilish cry and jumped over the man who stood in his way. This man, however, seeing his rival win, lost his head and the rope, tossed away his pole, and plunged into the depth even faster, a whirlpool of arms and legs.
“Zarathustra, however, did not move; and it was right next to him that the body fell, badly maimed and disfigured, but not yet dead. After a while the shattered man recovered consciousness and saw Zarathustra kneeling beside him. ‘What are you doing here?’ he asked at last. ‘I have long known that the devil would trip me. Now he will drag me to hell. Would you prevent him?’
“’By my honor friend,’ answered Zarathustra, ‘all that of which you speak does not exist: there is no devil and no hell. Your soul will be dead even before your body: fear nothing further.’
“The man looked up suspiciously. ‘If you speak the truth,’ he said. ‘I lose nothing when I lose my life. I am not much more than a beast that has been taught to dance by blows and a few meager morsels.’
‘By no means,’ said Zarathustra. ‘You have made danger your vocation; there is nothing contemptible in that. Now perish of your vocation: for that I will bury you with my own hands.’” (I, pp.131-132) Thus, interestingly, the metaphor for the pre-overman is to be buried by Zarathustra himself. But, Zarathustra does not bury him in a strict sense.
Delete“So he laid the dead man into a hollow tree – for he wanted to protect him from the wolves – and he himself lay down on the ground and the moss, his head under the tree.
“For a long time Zarathustra slept, and not only dawn passed over his face but morning too. At last, however, his eyes opened: amazed, Zarathustra looked into the woods and the silence; amazed, he looked into himself.
“’To lure many away from the herd, for that have I come. The people and the herd shall be angry with me: Zarathustra wants to be called a robber by the shepherds.’” (I, page 135) Zarathustra’s revelation is for a social bond with other overmen. Very specifically, Nietzsche makes clear Zarathustra does not seek worshipers but fellow creators.
“’Companions, the creator seeks, not corpses, not herds and believers. Fellow creators, the creator seeks – those who write new values on new tablets. Companions, the creator seeks, and fellow harvesters; for everything about him is ripe for the harvest.” (I, page 136)
“When your heart flows broad and full like a river, a blessing and a danger to those living near: there is the origin of your virtue. When you are above praise and blame, and your will wants to command all things, like a lover’s will: there is the origin of your virtue. When you despise the agreeable and the soft bed and cannot bed yourself far enough from the soft: there is the origin of your virtue. When you will with a single will and you call this cessation of all need ‘necessity’: there is the origin of your virtue.” (I, page 188)
“God is a conjecture; but I desire that your conjectures should not reach beyond your creative will. Could you create a god? Then do not speak to me of any gods. But you could well create the overman. Perhaps not you yourselves, my brothers. But into fathers and forefathers of the overman you could re-create yourselves: and let this be your best creation.
Heraclitian intuition requires many leaps, and many falls. Risk/ Reward ratio is often too high, but fortune favours the brave (VC Angel investors know this... Many failures for one big score/ success)
DeleteBut as the recent "Grandmother hypothesis" video goes, you can either invest in the project (atavism) or in the person (care).
I'm currently independent. I don't need investors. I go where my curiosity and interests lead me. No "censorship by financing" prevents me from exploring my interests, because none of them require capital. They are the human mind and heart.
"Philosophy is the translation of Eros into Logos"
- Byung-Chul Han
"...and the desire and pursuit of the whole is called, "Love""
- Plato "Symposium" (Aristophanes' Speech)
//Of your project. Ocean/ seas. You won't be extracting resources from Venus... what resources are you exploiting in Phase 1?
ReplyDeleteIntelligence, of course. Yawn.
Isn't in any production what counts as "resource" that is what lacking.
You do not count as resource... oxygen which workers on your... farm breath in, to spoil it into carbon dioxid? ;-p
No, my workers use O2 to perform work growing plants that produce O2 from my workers CO2 wastes...
Delete"Everything but the squeal" is a historic idiom in the meatpacking industry, originating around the 1860s, referring to the complete utilization of a slaughtered hog, where nearly 100% of the animal is processed into food, pet food, pharmaceuticals, or industrial products. This practice signifies maximum efficiency and minimal waste, commonly associated with the early Chicago stockyards.
Origins: The phrase is often linked to the industrial-scale slaughterhouses of the 19th century, notably the Chicago packing plants of Philip Armour and Gustavus Swift, which maximized profits by processing byproducts.
As if )))))))
DeleteSymbiosis...
Delete//Want/ Panpsychism - Must all "Systems of Systems" be conscious? Must they be conscious "subjects" and not mere inanimate "objects"? (Many Solar Systems within a Galactic System).
ReplyDeleteWHY??? %^))
So people can say things like.... Question -- will that system of a systems will even WANT to dive back into gravity well...
DeleteWell???
DeleteDo you know systems that have a WILL (will to power, meh?).
And do not consist of people?
"Man can do what he wills but he cannot will what he wills."
Delete- Arthur Schopenhauer
Wisdoms of the past...
DeleteToday we know much more about hormones and brain. And how they influence our behavior. Even our wills.
Do we?
DeleteI need a Soma< holiday (BNW)!
DeleteGo became bio-hacker. Like I care. Yawn.
Delete...or take the next mRNA vaccine...
Delete//Mitochondria aren't a cell's engines (powerhouse)? You can do work w/o power?
ReplyDeleteWhat role of power supply of a computer? @@
It's a paper weight without it.
DeleteAnd even LESS if that computer have no, non-working bootstrap program.
DeleteYawn.
You have a curiosity program?
DeleteYou know how to make a non-feeling machine Desire?
Deletew/o Carrots and Sticks (Pleasure/ Pain).
DeleteWhat for???
DeleteTo alter set points... turn the amps from 0 to 11...
Delete//My thought is to use a thermal difference in stage 1 at a geothermal vent at ocean floor (hot) and surrounding ocean water (cold) to "power" an Ovo-like reproduction factory using a locally produced Stirling Engine type "mitochondria" structure based design.
ReplyDeleteYeah.
And where you'd take that initial Ovo??? To initiate that process. @@
Chicken... and Ovo problem. ;-)
I'm not implying that you don't "seed" the process. the point is to make Ovo self-replicating... to send Ovo to a place where the machine can successfully self-replicate, unless you want to rely on serendipity, infinite timelines or onboard AIs (or combos) Ideally the AI's built in to the "structures/ forms" that OVO are built with are that seed.... but getting there originally?
DeleteMaybe stage 2 of OVO's assembly happens at the ocean surface. Some "Sperm" meets the OVO/egg that add an ability/ capability.
...and a "collective intelligence" begins to emerge.
Delete//the point is to make Ovo self-replicating...
ReplyDeleteWhy?
What for?
Von Neumann?
DeleteYawn. Was he technologist?
DeleteWould it not be "useful". Like an apple tree that bears "fruit"?
DeleteWisdoms of the past...
Delete...to alter past Injustices ;p
DeleteIn the context of Marx and your description, the "No True Scotsman" fallacy typically arises in two distinct ways:
ReplyDelete1. Marx’s own "No True Scotsman" against "True Socialists"
Marx actually used a version of this logic to distance himself from rival thinkers. In The Communist Manifesto and other writings, he and Engels attacked a group they mockingly called the "True Socialists" (Wahre Sozialisten).
The Claim: Marx argued that his "scientific socialism" was the only legitimate form.
The Rejection: He dismissed the "True Socialists" as mere "sneaky bastards" (in spirit) who dealt in abstract moralizing and middle-class idealism rather than the "true" class struggle of the proletariat. To Marx, they weren't true socialists because they didn't focus on the materialist evolution of history.
2. The Fallacy in Modern Debates about "Real Capitalism"
The "sneaky bastard" scenario you described—a capitalist paying in self-made tickets (the truck system) rather than real money—is often used in debates to trigger the "No True Scotsman" fallacy from the other side:
The Counter-Example: Critics point to these "sneaky" practices (or slavery, or company towns) as evidence of capitalism’s inherent cruelty.
The Fallacy: Proponents of capitalism may respond: "That’s not true capitalism. In a true capitalist system, there is a free market with voluntary exchange and honest currency.".
The Reality: By adding the word "true," they exclude the negative historical example from their definition to protect the ideology from criticism, which is the definition of the No True Scotsman fallacy.
3. The Truck System: Vouchers vs. Money
Marx’s specific critique of those "tickets" was that they weren't money at all because they lacked universal exchangeability.
Capitalist "Tickets": These were tools of enslavement used to force workers to buy from the employer’s store at inflated prices.
Marx's "Labour Certificates": Interestingly, Marx proposed his own version of "tickets" for the initial phase of socialism. However, he insisted these were different because they were based on hours worked and could not be used to "make a profit" or be accumulated as capital, whereas the "sneaky capitalist's" tickets were designed specifically to extract more profit from the worker.
The Materialist "Labour" Theory of Value... not the Technofeudalist's "Rentier" exploitation of Hegelian intangible assets (IP)...
DeleteI wonder what Marx though of IP. I remember buying cheap books and records in Taiwan (no copyright protections). I do admire the Chinese Shanzhai creative process for technology advancement.
But then again, Property/Dominion Rights are what Communism seeks to eliminate. but what about the Jus Abutendi? That is the critical "property" right that the CP reserves to itself.
DeleteI dont care about it.
DeleteIt all about technologies to me.
Means -- about what possible, and what not.
And I deem it wise to ignore that seconds.
Yawn.
But. Thats my choice, not your.
Isn't your fight, however, one of "intellectual property"? The value in the intangible? And the "right" to surpass/ destroy existing technilogies/
DeleteThat's why neoliberal capital opposes you. You would render their technologies obsolete.
DeleteWhatever.
DeleteWhat is mortal. Predestined to perish.
Yawn.
All people mortal.
Socrates too. @@
Since 9/11 "continuity of government" is the theme used to overthrow democracy in Europe and America. If you threaten the "syndicalists"... you (like MAGA) are branded domestic terrorism. Your new technology is a threat to them, making you a "terrorist" threatening their continuity.
DeleteLike ever... yawn.
Deletenew technology = before (precedes) and is opposed by the law.
Delete"Custom is like a King, and the Law, like a Tyrant"
- Dio Chrysostom (Natural Law being adopted by custom, not novel Legislation)
"Karl Marx claimed that, to realize their profits, capitalists must exploit workers. However, by his definition of the word, every society – capitalist or not – depends upon exploitation. According to Marx, workers are exploited when they do not keep or control all the value created by their own labor. The problem is that, if a laborer received the full value of his product, why would anyone buy it? The only reason for buying something is for the value it provides, but if the price is so high that customers receive no net gain from its purchase, no purchase will take place. If no one buys anything, laborers will be left with products that they can neither use nor sell, and production will be of no benefit to anyone. Clearly, no society can survive under such conditions."
ReplyDeletehttps://www.econlib.org/marx-and-exploitation/#:~:text=Karl%20Marx%20claimed%20that%2C%20to,can%20survive%20under%20such%20conditions.
Simple logic? Isn't it?
Plato's "Hipparchus"... or the Profiteer
DeleteThe quintessence of profit through transferrence.
DeleteUsing these different definitions of value, Marx could argue that the laborer could receive the full exchange value of his product while still leaving surplus use value for the purchaser.
ReplyDeleteBut his theory of an exchange value that can be objectively determined implies that nearly any exchange must result in exploitation. In the exchange of any two goods, X and Y, there are only three possibilities:
X and Y contain the same amount of socially necessary labor and, therefore, have the same exchange values.
X contains more socially necessary labor than Y.
Y contains more socially necessary labor than X.
In cases 2 and 3, no exchange will occur because no one will offer a good in exchange for one of lesser value. But neither would an exchange occur in case 1. Who would pay the transaction costs of taking goods to market to exchange them for goods that are of no more value? If exchange offers no gain, there is no point in making an exchange. Marx, perhaps recognizing that exchange must, according to his theories, entail exploitation, proposed a society in which exchange is prohibited.
In Marx’s utopia, factories would produce for use rather than for exchange. In practice, finished goods would be sent to warehouses from which they would be distributed to consumers. Workers would, in Marx’s formulation, produce according to their abilities and receive according to their needs. In practice, however, workers are far more likely to produce according to a quota set by central planners and receive according to the planners’ assessment of their needs.
Kafka's "Josephine or the Mouse Singer". When no "material" product is exchanged.
DeleteUsing these different definitions of value, Marx could argue that the laborer could receive the full exchange value of his product while still leaving surplus use value for the purchaser.
ReplyDeleteBut his theory of an exchange value that can be objectively determined implies that nearly any exchange must result in exploitation. In the exchange of any two goods, X and Y, there are only three possibilities:
X and Y contain the same amount of socially necessary labor and, therefore, have the same exchange values.
X contains more socially necessary labor than Y.
Y contains more socially necessary labor than X.
In cases 2 and 3, no exchange will occur because no one will offer a good in exchange for one of lesser value. But neither would an exchange occur in case 1. Who would pay the transaction costs of taking goods to market to exchange them for goods that are of no more value? If exchange offers no gain, there is no point in making an exchange. Marx, perhaps recognizing that exchange must, according to his theories, entail exploitation, proposed a society in which exchange is prohibited.
In Marx’s utopia, factories would produce for use rather than for exchange. In practice, finished goods would be sent to warehouses from which they would be distributed to consumers.
;^)
Amazon?
Workers would, in Marx’s formulation, produce according to their abilities and receive according to their needs. In practice, however, workers are far more likely to produce according to a quota set by central planners and receive according to the planners’ assessment of their needs.
They're also more likely to produce "phantom" goods that make their quotas and earn them bonus' (surplus wages) for meeting them. "Profit" - and the maxims of Hipparchus...
DeleteGoogle AI:
In Plato's dialogue Hipparchus, Socrates defines lovers of gain as those "who think it worthwhile to make a gain from things of no worth" (225a) and later argues that all gain is inherently good, suggesting that "some gain incurs a net loss when it harms the gainer". It explores the nature of greed, defining a lover of gain as one who "thinks fit to make gain from, things from which honest men do not dare".
Key details and quotes from the Hipparchus dialogue:
Definition of Gain: The interlocutor suggests that lovers of gain are those who "think it worth while to make gain out of things of no worth".
Socrates' Argument: Socrates argues that all men who make gains have knowledge of their field, distinguishing between worthy and worthless.
Good vs. Gain: Socrates asserts that "gain is good and loss is evil".
The Goal of the Dialogue: The conversation aims to define "what is love of gain" (τί γὰρ τὸ φιλοκερδές).
Context: The dialogue is part of a discussion where Socrates' companion offers a view on greedy, cheating people.
The dialogue concludes by highlighting how unsafe it is to reproach anyone for being a "lover of gain.
Yeah.
DeleteI do draw different conclusions from those of the AI.
DeleteEven assuming an ideal distribution of goods, though, the only way in which a worker can receive the full exchange value of his production is in the unlikely event that his needs exactly match his abilities. Most workers will either produce more than they receive or receive more than they produce. The former are exploited according to Marx’s own definition of the word. Moreover, if the society is to survive, most workers will have to produce more than they consume and, therefore, most must be exploited.
ReplyDeleteMore thn that. Worker's family NEED TO exploit him.
Like his baby toddler. Like his pregnant spouse. Like his disabled parents.
Or he himself... if fell ill. Or just sleeping. %^))))
Plato "Philebus" a ranking of "goods".
Deleteps - Welcome to the "Achievement Society" (Byung-chul Han). Where workers (Achievement Subjects) exploit themselves to the point of Burnout. It's the foundational basis for technofeudalism. Self-Exploitation in the service of Cloud Capital.
Yawn.
DeleteAh, exploitation of the "vanishing mediator" principle.
Delete"The medium IS the mrssage" - Marshall McLuhan
DeleteOn the other hand, if exchange is prohibited, then the exchange value of any good or service is, legally, zero. Therefore, by definition, anything that a worker receives exceeds the exchange value of that which he produces. Problem solved – at least to the satisfaction of a Marxist theoretician. One wonders whether such verbal legerdemain will satisfy a laborer equally well.
ReplyDeleteYap.
Totally USSR.
And probably... your near Future.
Under dRump. ;^p
Censorship through financing, not prohibition. That's the present (not future).
DeleteLike ever... yawn.
DeleteWhy do you suppose that the USIC built Jack's Magic Coffee Shop?
DeleteIt's "free" coffee...
Coffee w/o "milk".
DeleteAnd look who are the author of it?
ReplyDeleteRichard Fulmer worked as a mechanical engineer and a systems analyst in industry. He is now retired and does free-lance writing. He has published some fifty articles and book reviews in free market magazines and blogs. With Robert L. Bradley Jr., Richard wrote the book, Energy: The Master Resource.
Great minds thinking alike? ;^)
Markets aren't free. You must use a search engine that directs you to sellers, whose algorithm has been maximized so that Jeff Bezo's kick-back feeds and directs the Search.
Delete...hence the term "technofeudalism" Bezo's is a Cloud Lord. Amazon is his cloud vassal. And you are a cloud serf.
DeleteLike ever... yawn.
DeleteNot a fan of flea markets, I see...
Delete:^)
DeleteOhhh
ReplyDeleteAnd had written some more -- https://www.econlib.org/author/rfulmer/
Now look back at the question, “Why do Communists say "that wasn't real Communism?"”, and the answer becomes obvious.
ReplyDeleteThose attempts at the Socialist Utopia failed.
Therefore, by definition, it could not have been real Socialism, since real Socialism cannot fail. Real Socialism is inevitable.
This is also why Socialists fleeing California, New York, and other places their Socialist policies have ruined, then vote for the same policies which destroyed the places they left. Socialism must work, it’s inevitable. It cannot be the policies which failed, it must be that they weren’t big enough, they weren’t early enough, they weren’t pervasive enough, they weren’t enacted in the right way, or by the right people.
It cannot be the polices themselves.
….because Socialism is inevitable.
And so round and round we go, pursuing the same ends, and achieving only destruction, destitution, and death.
Because?
It all "words, words, words" another words -- Magical Thinking
Whole idea that if you'd stick it "inevitable"... (or "kingdom of god, in heavens", yawn)... it will *magically* turn into Reality, "inevitably"%^)))))))))
DeleteNo "separation" and "balance of powers". All Positive Liberty with no NegativeM/i> Liberties for those who wish to avoid (or katenchonize/ delay) the eschaton (end goal of utopia).
DeleteTrapped in another's dream = Nightmare!
???
Delete...agreeing with you.
DeleteWell... whole reason Marx's "inevitable" failure.
ReplyDeleteIgnoring RISKS.
When capitalist/businessman/entrepreneur pays worker -- he TAKES all risks (that product worker made will not be sold, not sold for a good price, not be spoiled and trashed)
And worker recieves DISCOUNTED salary, yes. BUT. Where'd you'll find a worker... that would agree to take RISKS of his employer on himself???
That only possible... among pirates??? gangs?
Such solidarity. ;^p
Every venture capitalists loses money in 19 out of 20 investments... but the 1 that hits is so profitable it pays for more than the losses of the other 19. In the "casino" of capitalism, VC's play the "House".
DeleteQuantity makes Quality and a new Quantity...
DeleteBy itself???
DeleteIs it alive?
DeleteA thinking "subject" (and not a non-thinking "object")?
Delete//You think that I need to surpass/ overcome myself?
ReplyDeleteHah.
We do it every day. Every night.
You today is not you from tomorrow "Lem again".
The same is true of memories. Butterflies don't need a catepillar's memories. Ovid's "Metamorphosis"....
DeleteYeah. And Law of Unpredictable Consequences... means, Cause-Action Effect.
DeleteDo not exist.
Yawn.
Nietzsche, "Four Errors"...
Delete//No "censorship by financing" prevents me from exploring my interests, because none of them require capital. They are the human mind and heart.
ReplyDeleteAnd as it... limited. Yawn.
I'm not Elon, nor do I wish to be him.
Delete;p
DeleteI mean. Being just a human -- you'll just repeat paths other humans have passed.
DeleteAnd that is... boring.
It means you agree to be just as that other animal -- that died in miriads. Brainlessly. Unconsciously.
And put all that brilliance of a human mind... to waste.
But. Yawn..
It's ALL Difference and Repetition (Deleuze). Mine is a different combination of differences and repetitions. A different "Order of Things" (Foucault).
Delete...therefore "Unique".
DeleteWhatever. Your choice(s).Your butthert. Yawn.
DeleteNietzsche, "Also Sprach Zarathustra"
Delete"I shall return, with this sun, with this earth, with this eagle, with the serpent – not to a new life or a better life or a similar life: I shall return eternally to this identical and self-same life..."
:P
DeleteKeep dancing. Yawn.
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