from Google AI:
Georges Bataille’s The Accursed Share approaches human economics not from a foundation of scarcity—as both traditional capitalism and Marxism do—but from a cosmic foundation of surplus and excess. Because the sun endlessly bombards the Earth with more energy than life requires for simple survival, Bataille argues that this excess energy is the "accursed share". It must eventually be dissipated, either gloriously (through art, luxury, and sacrifice) or catastrophically (through war or systemic collapse).Bataille, Calvin, and Marx: The Triangle of EconomicsIn his masterwork, Bataille sets up a fascinating critique analyzing how Calvinism (via Max Weber) and Marxism (via Karl Marx) both trap humanity within a "restricted economy"—a system entirely focused on work, production, and the accumulation of wealth.Marxism (The Economy of Production): Marx argued that human societies are defined by their material conditions and the production of goods. In the Marxist view, capitalism causes alienation because workers are exploited for their surplus value. The revolutionary goal is to redistribute that wealth justly.Bataille’s Critique: Bataille argues that Marx ultimately remains trapped in the same utilitarian trap as capitalism. For Bataille, the focus on production denies the primary drive of humanity: the consumption and joyous squandering of excess. Bataille believes Marx views humans as mere workers and producers, rather than sovereign beings who seek ecstatic, non-productive expenditure.Calvinism (The Economy of Accumulation): Bataille builds upon the Weber thesis, which links Calvinist predestination and anxiety about the afterlife to the birth of modern capitalist industry. Because Calvinists were unsure of their salvation, earthly success and profit became proof of God's favor.Bataille’s Critique: Calvinism completely severed the sacred from the material world. By viewing all life as a grim mechanism of productive labor, savings, and deferred gratification, Calvinism essentially erased the glorious, uncalculated squandering of the "accursed share," paving the way for the soulless industrialization of the modern world.The Positivity of Bataille’s ViewWhile Marx and Calvin look to work, utility, and saving as the path forward, Bataille champions a radical "positivity" found entirely in unproductive expenditure.
- Sovereignty over Servitude: Bataille defines a "sovereign" individual or society not by how much wealth it hoards or produces, but by how it wastes it. True freedom lies in useless, purposeless expenditure—such as poetry, eroticism, festivals, art, and the non-competitive gift-giving of indigenous cultures.
- A "General Economy": By accepting the natural exuberance of the sun, Bataille shifts our perspective from scarcity (where every action must have a measurable output) to abundance. The positivity of the accursed share is that it forces us to recognize that life's truest joy is found in the uncalculating celebration of the present moment.
"The Accursed Share; The Origins of Capitalism and the Reformation" (1949)
Baudrillard's Critique
from Google AI:
Jean Baudrillard’s critique of Georges Bataille’s The Accursed Share (which he famously outlines in his 1976 book Symbolic Exchange and Death) honors Bataille's notion of expenditure but argues that Bataille ultimately "naturalized" it. Baudrillard claims Bataille reduced symbolic excess to a biological or cosmological instinct (rooted in the sun's excess energy) rather than purely grasping it as a social, semiotic process. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]Baudrillard's Core Critiques
- Naturalization vs. Symbolic Process: Baudrillard argues that Bataille bases his "general economy" on a biological and cosmological mysticism—treating excess as an inherent physical law of the universe. Baudrillard argues that true expenditure does not stem from the sun, but rather from the "counter-gift" and the dynamics of human exchange found in the anthropological work of Marcel Mauss. [1, 2]
- Retaining the Logic of the "Other": Baudrillard contends that Bataille’s focus on sacrifice, transgression, and the "sovereign subject" is a romantic attempt to reintroduce loss and death back into a servile, utilitarian world. Because Bataille defines his theory as a transgression of capitalist utility, he unintentionally keeps the utilitarian, bourgeois economic order as a point of reference. [1, 2, 4]
- Reversibility over Expenditure: For Baudrillard, expenditure is secondary to the principle of symbolic exchange (where concepts like life and death, value and waste, and give-and-take are entirely reversible). Instead of just "wasting" surplus in sovereign gestures like Bataille’s Aztecs, Baudrillard insists that we must shift away from the modern paradigm of production entirely. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
The Evolution: Bataille's Influence on BaudrillardDespite his critiques, Baudrillard adopted Bataille’s foundational premise—that capitalism operates under a "limited economy" of scarcity, utility, and accumulation. Baudrillard takes Bataille's idea of the "accused share" (the surplus energy a society must eventually liquidate or destroy) and applies it to late-stage consumer capitalism. [1, 2, 3, 5]While Bataille saw destructive phenomena like war and elite luxury as physical eruptions of the "accursed share," Baudrillard took a darker, postmodern view. Baudrillard argues that under hyper-consumption, capitalism doesn't allow genuine expenditure or sacrifice. Instead, the system simulates waste and expenditure through mass consumption, keeping the system going without ever allowing the truly destructive, liberating ruptures that Bataille envisioned. [1, 2, 3]
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//Because the sun endlessly bombards the Earth with more energy than life requires for simple survival, Bataille argues that this excess energy is the "accursed share".
Since then... Humanity invented "sinergetics"(physics of systems with dynamic equilibrium) to explore and explain exactly that things
Because "wisdoms of past... became imprecise, and even outdated... with time"
Yawn
PS Say, do you have Ford T in your garage? If no, why no? That's so Lindy. ;-p
His understanding of Karl Marx and the social/economic system he envisioned is based on his own personal views of reality and existence.
Interesting perhaps, but, one should go deeper. To the dimensions of reality few ever access.
I'll save you the trouble.
Yawn
Suddenly, you decided to start talking to me, Lessy? %^)))
Pre-WWI Model T's cost over $40k... my self-driving Honda Accord only cost me $25k. I must not have been paid a sufficient surplus salary to afford a T.
My Uncle Louis used to have a couple, but he was more into Packard's from the 30s with rumble seats and old Caddie Limos from the 50s...
He was a big antiques collector, who loved "local" (San Jose) culture. He bought a number of ADM Cooper's paintings from the Panamanian Expo.
I think he means Bataille and Baudrillard... and that he might "meditate" on the limitations of Marx based upon his own personal views of reality and existence...
Funny, I doubt Marx had a favorable impression of "luxury"... he was always "bourgeois values this" and "bourgeois values that".
Plato said that Luxury was the source of injustice (Republic)
"When no one has property, EVERYTHING will be beautiful... @@
Marx viewed luxury as a systemic symptom of capitalist inequality and exploitation. He criticized luxury as "the opposite of the naturally necessary", arguing that while it provides excess for the ruling class, it is built on the deprivation and alienation of the working class.
Marx's perspective on luxury can be broken down into a few central critiques:
1. The Cost of Exploitation
Marx observed that luxury is the direct result of surplus value extracted from workers. In his 1844 Manuscripts, he noted that because the capitalist pushes the worker’s living standard to the bare biological minimum, "every luxury of the worker seems to be reprehensible". Capitalists view any wage or enjoyment going beyond a worker's basic survival needs as an unjustifiable threat to their profits.
2. Commodity Fetishization
In Das Kapital, Marx explored how luxury goods mask the harsh, often unsafe labor conditions under which they are produced. He argued that society creates a "fetish" around expensive, luxury commodities, valuing them as magical, standalone status symbols while ignoring the exploited laborers who actually made them.
3. Pacification and Distraction
Marxist thought later expanded on the idea that producing luxury goods pacifies the working class. By dangling luxury items, consumer culture distracts workers from their own alienation, keeping them focused on consuming rather than seeking class consciousness or rebelling against the capitalist system.
4. A Future Without Class-Based Luxury
Ultimately, Marx envisioned a post-capitalist society where the concept of "luxury" as an exclusive, hoarded privilege would vanish. When the means of production are collectively owned, society will produce to satisfy universal human needs and creative desires, dissolving the boundary between the "useful" and the beautiful.
(Useful) Necessity = beauty
...all surplus is a result of "class" differences.
Who gets to use the collectively owned means of production to satisfy his own personal creative needs this week? @@
Negate class differences and you gain the "surplus" of negating "luxury" too! Woo-hoo!
In subjective reality it makes perfect sense. At least to the one holding that particular view of reality. Materialistic surface reality for the capial case always will focus on luxury. Excessive and obscene luxury at the expense of 2 billion suffering from severe malnutrition (or starving) human beings. As well as the homeless.
Greed is the driving force for the 1%-3% capital class. But, it's the inertia of the capitalist system that is driving itself as well as the individualistic minded in government that support it through austerity, unemployment, manipulative central banks, indirect support of union busting efforts, regressive taxation policies... and so forth.
Others life necessities outranks the capital class's insatiable desire for more, and more, and more. Or at least it should.
Like hippo's, we're hoarders. Everyone wants to be the beachmaster (will to power). The capitalist system is merely a reflection of human nature. It's not good or bad. It's evolution in action. Men fight for a slice of the beach, and women flock to mate with the hippo with the biggest/ best one (hypergamy).
...and the other rats in the mouse utopia hate alpha's, hence the TDS of the beautiful ones.
//Pre-WWI Model T's cost over $40k... my self-driving Honda Accord only cost me $25k. I must not have been paid a sufficient surplus salary to afford a T.
See?
It's in your brain, and not in this world.
You unable to percieve OTHER possibilities of gettung Ford T, like -- just a few as example: make it yourself, with collecting spare parts, traveling around world to find place wherw it lays as garbage, make a replica (with 3D-printer) ;-p
Naaah.
Capitalism it's just scarcity of resources, mitigated by tech, limited by possible transformations of mass/energy, limited by happan stance of celestial object we call Earrh(Diet ;-p)
If capitalism defined culturally -- why all countries cr#ated and using practically the same products: fabric canvas, automobiles, computers…
Economies of scale enabled by "capitalism".
Why does N. Korea embrace Juche?
You need to watch "American Pickers" more.
Sounds almost like you know what you're talking about.
Conditioning and reification blinds your ability to see the reality of the beast that is capitalism.
In psychology we call that (reification) repression. It's a function of the Oedipus Complex. A self-blinding (like in the Oedipus Rex tragedy). In your case, it's white guilt-pride that's blinding you.
It's the source of your oikophobia as well. Why you love foreign concepts. You reject Western values as a result, and embrace post-colonialism.
De-colonize your mind. It justifies the "repressive tolerance" of the woke elite.
Yada, yada, yada.
I filed in Under Advisement for Future Lives.
As a reminder of the 21st century idiocy of MAGAts.
BTW, I don't reject ALL Western values. Nor do I accept ALL Eastern values. But, unlike you I search for the positive values in all cultures that affirm life, equality, and the acceptance of the deep interconnectedness of all beings. Rather than the dualistic separation trump and most of the western world (including you) accept.
But that discussion is for one with eyes to see and ears to hear.
Yes, I'm so closed -minded vis other cultures, having lived abroad for 7 1/2 years and spent another year as a merchant seaman out of the port of San Francisco... @@
Well, good for you.
There is no "woke" elite.
Other than in the minds of racists, white supremacists, misogynists, and xenophobes.
So what? All woke are equally stooopid? ;-p
//Yes, I'm so closed -minded vis other cultures, having lived abroad for 7 1/2 years and spent another year as a merchant seaman out of the port of San Francisco... @@
Yeah. That is called Complex of Tourist. Yawn.
Les CarpenterJune 8, 2026 at 4:34 PM
Sounds almost like you know what you're talking about.
Conditioning and reification blinds your ability to see the reality of the beast that is capitalism.
And Communism…is not a beast?
Rethorical question.
AnonymousJune 9, 2026 at 12:50 AM
And Communism...is not a beast?
Rhetorical question.
Aren't all political/economic systems beasts?
Rhetorical question.
Stupid in the same way, at least. They think that they need to perform penance for the crimes of their race. Their crime being "successful". So much for the Dorian focus on personal and social "excellence" that made Greek culture.
"We're not worthy! We must always pay deference to failed cultures and curse our own ancestry!"
"It's what makes ME, and not THEM, a good person!"
aka - white guilt-pride.
Yes, getting mugged and being robbed really opens your eyes to the beauty of foreign cultures.
The grass must be greener...
Are there more than this two to discuss??? %^P
Especially with given that Communism is just State Monopolistuc Capitalism.
Heh… aborigens want to prosper too.
Go thank em for not being cannibals. ;-p
Naaah.
That was question to highlightthat that dunce... dunno what Normal Distribution is. ;-p
Sure, democratic socialism.
You mean instead of the "binary thinking" he so despises
Binary... Boolean... like a digital computer (not like the super-positioning in space of a quantum computer)
...q-bits.
Post-colonialism demands that you praise the cannibals and condemn the "colonizers" in the pot. They still believe that aborigines are autochthonous... have special rights to atavistic practices because they sprang from the ground (and never colonized others). In other words, Social Justice (SoJus). @@
Worship their sacred animism! Have you recited a land acknowledgement to the Cossacks recently to justify Ukraine's war against the Russians. The Huns?
Oh wait, the Huns were colonizers... :(
...Ooops, Tatars, not Cossacks. The Cossacks were colonizers, too.
Ukraine formally recognizes three groups as Indigenous Peoples: the Crimean Tatars, the Karaites, and the Krymchaks. All three are autochthonous to the Crimean Peninsula, possessing distinct languages, cultures, and religions, and do not have an independent state entity outside of Ukraine
Ukrainian Cossacks were semi-nomadic, warrior societies that emerged in the 15th century in the southern steppe frontier of Ukraine. Renowned for their fierce independence and military prowess, they became a foundational symbol of Ukraine's national identity, embodying freedom, self-governance, and resistance to foreign rule.
Oh wait, they were colonizers, too...
Crimean Tatars (Qırıımlı) are the indigenous Turkic people of Ukraine, native to the Crimean Peninsula. They are a predominantly Muslim community whose culture blends Mediterranean, Middle Eastern, and Central Asian influences. Today, approximately 300,000 Crimean Tatars live in Ukraine
Myrmidons, rally to Achilles!
Google AI Overview
In Greek mythology, the Myrmidons were an elite, fearsome tribe of warriors from Thessaly commanded by Achilles in the Trojan War. According to Ovid's Metamorphoses, their name derives from the Greek word for "ants" (myrmex) because Zeus transformed a colony of ants into humans to repopulate the island of Aegina.
The Myrmidons are fundamentally tied to Achilles’ legacy:
Lineage & Origins: The Myrmidons predated Achilles. They were originally ruled by Achilles’ grandfather, King Aeacus of Aegina. Aeacus's son Peleus (Achilles' father) brought the warriors with him to settle in Phthia, Thessaly.
The "Ant" Connection: Etymologically, the name Myrmidon translates to "ant-people" or "ants' nest". Mythologically, this represented their absolute discipline, tireless endurance, and ability to swarm and fight as a single, devastating unit.
Trojan War Significance: In Homer's Iliad, the Myrmidons were the absolute fiercest and most disciplined fighters in the Greek army. They were fiercely loyal to Achilles. When Achilles withdrew from the war over a dispute with Agamemnon, the Myrmidons sat out as well, which caused the Greek forces to suffer heavy losses.
Wait... Achilles'' father was a colonizer too? wtf!
SoJus is just sooooooo hard to find. So many colonizers. So few colonial victims to defer morality too...
Ask the Peronists. Somebody's got to drop the helicopter cash, and not just give free helicopter rides to commies. :0
aka Peronism.
Google AI:
Peronism is not strictly democratic socialism, though its broad, "big-tent" ideology frequently incorporates elements of non-Marxist socialism, welfare capitalism, and social democracy.
Originating in 1940s Argentina under President Juan Domingo Perón, the movement spans a vast political spectrum from the far-right to the far-left, making it a highly adaptable political philosophy rather than a rigid doctrine.
Key Ideological Pillars
The "Third Position": Perón originally positioned his ideology as a "Third Position" (Tercera Posición) between Soviet-style communism and US-led Western capitalism.
Social Justice: A core tenet is justicialismo (social justice), which emphasizes wealth redistribution, state intervention, and a massively empowered labor union system.
Economic Nationalism: Peronism relies heavily on nationalizing key industries, protecting local markets, and advocating against foreign, imperialist corporate interests.
The Left-Wing of Peronism
While historical Peronism was heavily rooted in Catholic nationalism and corporatism, the modern movement features a strong leftist faction (most notably Kirchnerism). This faction shares many goals with democratic socialism and social democracy, including:
Robust social welfare programs.
Heavy government regulation to reduce economic inequality.
Championing labor and civil rights.
Core Differences
Despite these overlaps, traditional Peronism differs from democratic socialism in a few fundamental ways:
Capitalist Framework: Peronism has never sought the total abolition of private property or the capitalist mode of production; instead, it seeks to regulate capitalism so that it benefits the working class.
Populism and Class Collaboration: Rather than emphasizing class struggle and the empowerment of a Marxist proletariat, Peronism historically promoted class collaboration and a unified, corporatist state led by a strong central figure.
Yes, Milei took over Argentina after Kirchner. The helicopter money had the inflation rate way up....
Google AI:
During the Kirchner eras (Néstor Kirchner from 2003–2007, and Cristina Fernández de Kirchner from 2007–2015), official annual inflation rates hovered between roughly 10% and 26%. However, these figures are widely disputed; beginning in 2007, the government's statistics agency was manipulated to understate the true cost of living, with independent economists estimating the actual rates were often double the official data.
Key Inflation Context During the Kirchner Years
Néstor Kirchner (2003–2007): Annual inflation began creeping upward, with independent analysts estimating rates reaching close to 20% by the end of his term, driven by robust growth and expansionary monetary policies.
Cristina Fernández de Kirchner (2007–2015): The administration faced rampant price increases, officially reporting inflation between 10% and 11% during much of this period. However, private economists and provincial indices generally estimated the true rate at closer to 25% to 30%.
The INDEC Controversy: The government systematically understated price growth by restructuring the national statistics agency (INDEC). This manipulation was implemented to control the yields on inflation-linked sovereign bonds.
Please Sir, May I have Somoa?
Argentina's annual inflation rate has slowed to around 32%, a significant drop from the hyperinflationary peak of 211% recorded when President Javier Milei took office in December 2023. While monthly price increases have occasionally ticked upward, the drastic reduction highlights the immediate impact of his fiscal shock therapy and austerity measures.
Current Inflation Figures
Annual Inflation: Around 32%.Monthly Inflation: Has stabilized into a much lower monthly range compared to the 25.5% monthly spike seen when Milei first took the presidency.
Historical Context: Milei inherited the world’s highest inflation rate. The aggressive stabilization program successfully avoided full-blown hyperinflation.
^^Misguided reified conditioned beliefs on display. The capitalist class doing its work. Working for the self interests of capital elite.^^
Don't believe your eyes, all the news that is fit to print is in the New York Times... @@
Live in your own hyper-reality of "reified beliefs". No schizo-analysis or anti-Oedipus allowed! That's all mal-information!
Let me pre-censor the internet for you. Blue-Check sites ONLY!
//Capitalist Framework: Peronism has never sought the total abolition of private property or the capitalist mode of production; instead, it seeks to regulate capitalism so that it benefits the working class.
Populism and Class Collaboration: Rather than emphasizing class struggle and the empowerment of a Marxist proletariat, Peronism historically promoted class collaboration and a unified, corporatist state led by a strong central figure.
Yeah.
Nazisn, yawn.
(or fascism,if you toom scared of n-words ;-p)
So? From where capitalust should take monies to pay "fair salary"? ;-p
Yeah. You still think that I'm your peer from US
Yawn
or clepcidre… yawn
???
hour-glass?
the anti-sun dial.
We really do need to impose more anti-colonialism theory in your university curriculum. To "civilize" you to a proper standard.
...critical race theory left too many gaps.
Yawn.
Go reconqure Europe then
But you unable… even f*g iran
Oh, sorry, I forgot about The Pinnackle of US negative success
Chicken Run… from Afganistan %^P
naaaah
that'll be spintronics
oh, sorry -- photonics
and seriously
that was ref to Analog Computing.
Maybe you had to be there. like interrogating VC in Huey's flying over the jungle and tossing them out one by one if they refused to answer questions...
Ahhh.
We did leave some mighty fine bomb craters, though!
From the "surplus" price they charge and withhold for themselves, of course. No one should "Profit" from labour but the labourers themselves (Labour Theory of Value) The machines, capital investment, and organization account for nothing!
...or the 3 represents:
The "Three Represents" is a political doctrine of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) formulated by former General Secretary Jiang Zemin in 2000. It formally broadened the Party's ideological foundation by declaring that the CCP must represent: (1) advanced productive forces, (2) an advanced culture, and (3) the fundamental interests of the overwhelming majority of the Chinese people.
What the Three Represents Mean
The doctrine served as a massive ideological pivot for the CCP. Historically, the Party was strictly defined by its representation of the working class and peasantry. By adapting the Three Represents, the CCP shifted to a more inclusive model designed to reflect modern economic and social developments.
Advanced productive forces: Signifies economic modernization, technological innovation, and China's transition toward a market-oriented economy. It officially legitimized the entry of private business owners, capitalists, and entrepreneurs into the Communist Party.
Advanced culture: Represents the promotion of a socialist culture, ethics, and values that align with the nation's contemporary growth and global integration.
Fundamental interests of the majority: Dictates that the Party governs on behalf of all the Chinese people, moving away from class struggle and focusing instead on raising living standards, stability, and broad public support.
Historical Significance & Implementation
First introduced by Jiang Zemin during a 2000 inspection tour in Guangdong, the doctrine was officially ratified into the CCP Constitution at the 16th Party Congress in 2002. It was subsequently written into the PRC State Constitution in 2004.
The theory was designed to legitimize China's rapid economic reforms, allowing the Party to adapt to globalization and changing social demographics. It is officially cited as the ideological bridge that evolved the party's principles beyond Deng Xiaoping Theory and serves as a vital component of the official genealogy of Chinese political legitimacy.
The Same-old-Same-O!
La Tercera Posicion... the meden agan(?) between communism, capitalism, and socialism... but with no "separation of powers" or "checks and balances".
In other words, no "negative" liberty (freedom from), only "positive" liberty (freedom to). Like Jeff Koon's "Balloon Dog" as a mandatory standardized art aesthetic (ala- Socialist Realism under Stalin). No cultural "malware/ disinfo" allowed! Pussy Riot to the gulag!
Both!
Positive and Negative feedback loops needed.
Yawn.
Yeah!
Like in Gulag and Osventsim.
Until it'll train crash like that USSR
YAWN.
As for me…..that is Idea of a kind "why not became met zombie" while having yawn example before your very etes
But… as I said, I deem it uterly amoral -- to prevent peiple from dieing the way they choose…
bleh)))
Unless the positive loops are "voluntary", they destroy the negative "freedom from" loops. Hence as Jefferson(?) says, "That government that is best, governs least." (Freedom from Force's monopoly...Kratos and Bia)
...Prometheus chained in a rocky abyss.
Our "Achievement Society" suffers from an
excess" of positivity, and of sameness. Multi-culturalism seeks to collapse all cultural difference into a commodified labour pool with interchangeable labourers. It "decaffeinates" all otherness from the mix and creates a scarcity of labouring opportunities by over-supplying labourers. This has resulted in a "Gig" economy for these labourers.
...creating Strife between, rather than solidarity amongst, workers. This was a deliberate strategy amongst capitalist owners to thwart workers and unionization (and "defeat communism" during Cold War). They magnified the strife by offering surplus salaries to managers who Diversified their work forces thru DEI and AA policies.
They sold this blending as "Cultural Capitalism" where corporate philanthropy and the B Corp/ Benefit Corporation. It assuaged consumer guilt and made the consumer feel himself a philanthropist, "doing good" in the world through product brand consumption. The "brand" thus became everything.
This in turn led to "self-branding"... your personal profile... profilicity. What's your profile? Mine is -FJ. Mine is Thersites. Mine is Joe Conservative. Mine is the Absolute Marxist. Mine is SpeedyG. etc. It varies from moment to moment/ mement, day to day. Most people only have 1 (which creates a lot of anxiety surrounding self-identity). It's a monotheism thing, the great god Pan is dead!
Plato, "Cratylus" on the "names" of things. Sincerity, Authenticity, and Profilicity (3 Identity technologies). The names given by the Gods. The names given by the Men. The names given by the women. Hector (Iliad)...
Here is an important lesson; for the Gods must of course be right in their use of names. And this is not the only truth about philology which may be learnt from Homer. Does he not say that Hector’s son had two names—
“Hector called him Scamandrius, but the others Astyanax”?
Now, if the men called him Astyanax, is it not probable that the other name was conferred by the women? And which are more likely to be right—the wiser or the less wise, the men or the women? Homer evidently agreed with the men: and of the name given by them he offers an explanation;—the boy was called Astyanax (“king of the city”), because his father saved the city. The names Astyanax and Hector, moreover, are really the same,—the one means a king, and the other is “a holder or possessor.” For as the lion’s whelp may be called a lion, or the horse’s foal a foal, so the son of a king may be called a king. But if the horse had produced a calf, then that would be called a calf. Whether the syllables of a name are the same or not makes no difference, provided the meaning is retained. For example; the names of letters, whether vowels or consonants, do not correspond to their sounds, with the exception of epsilon, upsilon, omicron, omega. The name Beta has three letters added to the sound—and yet this does not alter the sense of the word, or prevent the whole name having the value which the legislator intended. And the same may be said of a king and the son of a king, who like other animals resemble each other in the course of nature; the words by which they are signified may be disguised, and yet amid differences of sound the etymologist may recognise the same notion, just as the physician recognises the power of the same drugs under different disguises of colour and smell. Hector and Astyanax have only one letter alike, but they have the same meaning; and Agis (leader) is altogether different in sound from Polemarchus (chief in war), or Eupolemus (good warrior); but the two words present the same idea of leader or general, like the words Iatrocles and Acesimbrotus, which equally denote a physician. The son succeeds the father as the foal succeeds the horse, but when, out of the course of nature, a prodigy occurs, and the offspring no longer resembles the parent, then the names no longer agree.
The river, Scamander, runs... Scamandrius. As Heraclitus said, "You can't step into the same river twice."
We should go back to the good old days of the Bicameral mind... when the gods spoke to us directly and told us what to do. But then we ate from that damn Tree of Knowledge of Good & Evil, and He left the garden and cast us out alone into the wilderness...
I was being sarcastic...
You should see the ones we left in Vietnam/ Laos.
yeah-yeah
sweet-sweet ol'goo't'ms
when "those who know better" was able to babble their bold lies without any chances to be revealed
yawn
And blinded by sarcasm… you missing the point -- worker and capitalist -- bound together.
//Unless the positive loops are "voluntary", they destroy the negative "freedom from" loops. Hence as Jefferson(?) says, "That government that is best, governs least." (Freedom from Force's monopoly...Kratos and Bia)
One cannot have one without other.
Yawn.
I'm all for merging them into Prosumers. In fact, that's been my desire since first reading Toffler's "The Third Wave" in '81-2
I wrote a paper in grad school (USC) on the loss of privacy that would result from the "Information Age". I missed completely it's commodification of the User by capitalism.
I know, what a maroon I am!
Sure you can. Very few States today even attempt to limit or oppose their government over-reach anymore. Especially in the US. Not the United States of America. The United State (singular) of America.
Where are the old Articles of Confederation when you need them?
Is it a coincidence that the EUs Digital Services Act (DSA) was passed on Bastille Day in 2022? European Aristocratic revenge for the arrogance of the Masses?
Reopened Cybernetics?
Yawn
...with an option to "opt out"?
Elvis has left the building!
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