“They saw their injured country's woe;
The flaming town, the wasted field;
Then rushed to meet the insulting foe;
They took the spear, - but left the shield.”
\\I am interested in "alternate" forms of intelligence like pheromones. Did Lem ever write about them?
Well... without details.
His idea was to paint possible futures with a wide brush.
Instead of concentrating on some small idea and diging it in-depth.
\\...but then again, aren't all attempts at intelligent communication also attempts at control?
Only intelligent? ;-)
Well... there is ingenious piece about grug called "altreuisine"... which, by promice of author can make people MORE altruistic, as one could devise from the name.
And what happened out of it. ;-)
All utopias and anti-utopias looks pale in comparation.
Biography of Stanislaw Lem (in English) - Lech Keller - Academia.edu www.academia.edu › Biography_of_Stanislaw_Lem_in_English_ ... Pirxa” translated by Louis Iribarne as “Pirx's Tale”134) plus the premiere of the short story “Altruizyna” (“Altruisine”) from The Cyberiad series.
I can find it, now that i know where to look. btw - was the photo from Putin-back Mountain? ;)
As for the link... good/ interesting, but lacking in a "meden agan" kinda way. Is law to be followed "unquestioningly" Are there no "unjust" laws and/or lawgivers? Lawmakers who favor expediency and uniformity in law over an individual's right to control and conduct their own lives?
...and how can a populace voice dissent and grievances under circumstances which prevent public assembly and their voices censored in public/private hyperspaces
\\As for the link... good/ interesting, but lacking in a "meden agan" kinda way. Is law to be followed "unquestioningly" Are there no "unjust" laws and/or lawgivers? Lawmakers who favor expediency and uniformity in law over an individual's right to control and conduct their own lives?
For that one need to be proficient in Talmud. Are you? ;-P
\\...and how can a populace voice dissent and grievances under circumstances which prevent public assembly and their voices censored in public/private hyperspaces
Naturally.
By piling up that "dissent and grievances" more and more.
Or... by introducing new techs. ;-)
\\Lech Keller
What do you think? Will you read it? Or that'll be just a waste of time...
\\As for the link... good/ interesting, but lacking in a "meden agan" kinda way. Is law to be followed "unquestioningly" Are there no "unjust" laws and/or lawgivers? Lawmakers who favor expediency and uniformity in law over an individual's right to control and conduct their own lives?
For that one need to be proficient in Talmud. Are you? ;-P
\\...and how can a populace voice dissent and grievances under circumstances which prevent public assembly and their voices censored in public/private hyperspaces
Naturally.
By piling up that "dissent and grievances" more and more.
Or... by introducing new techs. ;-)
\\Lech Keller
What do you think? Will you read it? Or that'll be just a waste of time...
As Lem would point out... wrong question, not deserving answering. ;-)
ReplyDeleteIs in that book... there is several texts of Lem... about souls.
All the more reason I need to read more Lem.
ReplyDeleteWell...
ReplyDeleteGolem we scimmed.
His Opus Magna reviewed.
There's only couple thing more.
His more arcane "feiry tales"... about robots.
And theatric plays pieces... about PHD Tarantoga.
That maybe look childish... but contain and describe and full of his phylosophy to the brims...
Also, that pieces I still have not read... strangely, didn't found printed versions...
PS Or... well, you can find some better expert in Lem's writings. ;-P
I am interested in "alternate" forms of intelligence like pheromones. Did Lem ever write about them?
ReplyDeleteerratum - alternate forms of communication like pheromones... and whether they could be used for "control".
ReplyDelete:P
ReplyDelete...but then again, aren't all attempts at intelligent communication also attempts at control?
ReplyDelete\\I am interested in "alternate" forms of intelligence like pheromones. Did Lem ever write about them?
ReplyDeleteWell... without details.
His idea was to paint possible futures with a wide brush.
Instead of concentrating on some small idea and diging it in-depth.
\\...but then again, aren't all attempts at intelligent communication also attempts at control?
Only intelligent? ;-)
Well... there is ingenious piece about grug called "altreuisine"... which, by promice of author can make people MORE altruistic, as one could devise from the name.
And what happened out of it. ;-)
All utopias and anti-utopias looks pale in comparation.
Google can't help me... altreuisine?
ReplyDeleteDon't bother. There is no in English, it seems.
ReplyDeleteBiography of Stanislaw Lem (in English) - Lech Keller - Academia.edu
www.academia.edu › Biography_of_Stanislaw_Lem_in_English_
... Pirxa” translated by Louis Iribarne as “Pirx's Tale”134) plus the premiere of the short story “Altruizyna” (“Altruisine”) from The Cyberiad series.
;-P
ReplyDeleteGood link... ehm?
ReplyDeletehttps://ejewishphilanthropy.com/what-would-moses-say-of-nietzsche-hitler-and-the-freedom-to-hurt-others-shavuot-5780/
I can find it, now that i know where to look. btw - was the photo from Putin-back Mountain? ;)
ReplyDeleteAs for the link... good/ interesting, but lacking in a "meden agan" kinda way. Is law to be followed "unquestioningly" Are there no "unjust" laws and/or lawgivers? Lawmakers who favor expediency and uniformity in law over an individual's right to control and conduct their own lives?
...and how can a populace voice dissent and grievances under circumstances which prevent public assembly and their voices censored in public/private hyperspaces
ReplyDelete\\As for the link... good/ interesting, but lacking in a "meden agan" kinda way. Is law to be followed "unquestioningly" Are there no "unjust" laws and/or lawgivers? Lawmakers who favor expediency and uniformity in law over an individual's right to control and conduct their own lives?
ReplyDeleteFor that one need to be proficient in Talmud. Are you? ;-P
\\...and how can a populace voice dissent and grievances under circumstances which prevent public assembly and their voices censored in public/private hyperspaces
Naturally.
By piling up that "dissent and grievances" more and more.
Or... by introducing new techs. ;-)
\\Lech Keller
What do you think? Will you read it? Or that'll be just a waste of time...
\\As for the link... good/ interesting, but lacking in a "meden agan" kinda way. Is law to be followed "unquestioningly" Are there no "unjust" laws and/or lawgivers? Lawmakers who favor expediency and uniformity in law over an individual's right to control and conduct their own lives?
ReplyDeleteFor that one need to be proficient in Talmud. Are you? ;-P
\\...and how can a populace voice dissent and grievances under circumstances which prevent public assembly and their voices censored in public/private hyperspaces
Naturally.
By piling up that "dissent and grievances" more and more.
Or... by introducing new techs. ;-)
\\Lech Keller
What do you think? Will you read it? Or that'll be just a waste of time...
/For that one need to be proficient in Talmud. Are you? ;-P
ReplyDeleteAs much as any goy.
What do you think? Will you read it? Or that'll be just a waste of time...
The biography? No. The stories? Quite likely. When I can find them. I'm still only 2 stories into my squinty library book.
Yet one tresspassing from "don't be evil" of Google spotted.
ReplyDeleteAre you interested to know?
How Google cover that fact... that Reps actually was demanding INCREASE of help to Ukraine.
Yes, Neocon Republicans want LOTS of aid for Ukraine. That's why I'm a Paleocon.
ReplyDeleteWhat happens when you marry a neocon with a neoliberal? You get a "globalist".
Whatever.
ReplyDeleteThat is like Talmud to me. ;-)
Ah...kabbalah! ;)
ReplyDeleteI prefer kabbalah called Logic. ;-)
ReplyDeleteOr... "knowing few principles spares from remebering lots of facts"
ReplyDeleteLa roc fucauld, again. ;-)
IMO, logic is over-rated. Sometimes it's just easier to punch someone in the face. ;)
ReplyDelete:-))))))))))))))))))))))))
ReplyDeleteOld Good Holy War Solution