Thursday, February 15, 2024

Venera - The Problem with Probes.

...you never know what you're going to find when you get there

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  1. Well... as I was predicting... now it becomes more and more problem of USA.

    Or what??? Ukraine have many satelites on the orbit and Putin trying to threat to shut down em? ;-P

    And now position of Elon Musk is more opaque -- he seen how own state betraying him, and trying to find solution on his own.

    Welcome to Cold Hot War 2.0! ;-)

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  2. New!!! Cold Hot War...

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  3. Remember that picture you sent me of the US delegation to Ukraine? Thanks. It totally explained the 'source" of the "threat".

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  4. Spamfilter deleted it :-)

    But well... is it too much to understand what it shows -- what the figures, their body language and etc?

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  5. Some Napoleon guy crawling all over a map while his bored "advisor" pontificates?

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  6. Yeah!

    And who could it be... what a mistery??? who could it be? ;-P

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  7. Oh... well, you don't know that other person.

    Though it goes everywhere with him.

    As his shadow. ;-P

    Cardinal in gray. ;-)

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  8. Yeah... I like your choice of words. :-)

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  9. Thank you.

    Well. Not exactly.

    More adequate would be... eunuch. As in china.

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  10. Mandarins are certainly much less useful to empires than janissaries.

    America has become like ancient Persia, filled with bureaucratic satraps. And Biden is no Cyrus.

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  11. Eunuchs in China
    Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org › E...
    A eunuch is a man who has been castrated. Throughout history, castration often served a specific social function. A group of eunuchs. Mural from the tomb of ...
    ‎Wei Zhongxian · ‎Li Lianying · ‎Nellie Yu Roung Ling · ‎Grand Secretariat


    ""castration was both a traditional punishment (one of the Five Punishments) and a means of gaining employment in the Imperial service. Certain eunuchs gained immense power that occasionally superseded that of even the Grand Secretaries such as the Ming dynasty official Zheng He.""

    ""It is said that the justification for the employment of eunuchs as high-ranking civil servants was that, since they were incapable of having children, they would not be tempted to seize power and start a dynasty. In many cases, eunuchs were considered more reliable than the scholar-officials.[8]""


    ""The tension between eunuchs in the service of the emperor and virtuous Confucian officials is a familiar theme in Chinese history.""

    ;-P

    Remind something? ;-)


    "" Ray Huang argues that in reality, eunuchs represented the personal will of the Emperor, while the officials represented the alternative political will of the bureaucracy. The clash between them would thus have been a clash of ideologies or political agenda.[10]""

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  12. No, the American Deep State bureaucratic mandarins aren't eunuch's. They don't follow orders from the Emperor and are absolutely obsessed with decorating their own rice bowls.

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  13. Have any better Theory of a State on your mind? ;-P

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  14. Yes, one run by Cyrus the Great (Xenophon, "Cyropedia"). One where the Mandarins follow the Emperors commands... or suffer the consequences.

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  15. God Emperor? God from Machina?

    Like in Warhammer 40.000 -- god-emperor that exiled itself into being super-computer.

    Because... only that is the way it can excert ANY control over such a enormous machinery of bureaucracy...

    Human-emperors -- will be played. As puppets.

    Experience of China and Japan. And late Europe... go watch "King talking" -- THAT, is how your emperor will behave and will be.

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  16. Naaah. It not.

    Even God-Emperor depend on Rules of the World... to seek for his Golden Path. ;-)

    And easily swayed on that road... with a simple but rare/luxurious... items.

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  17. You don't know Cyrus. He's a lot like Rousseau's "Emile". In many ways, virtue cannot be taught. But it can be learned. :)

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  18. The son of an emperor raised in a luxurious palace doesn't describe Cyrus' upbringing. Cyrus was raised in a more "Spartan" agoge type environment.

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  19. Nobody can INTAKE all knowledge... today.

    Believe me, I tried (and still trying, like in communication with you).

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  20. Cannon fodder?

    I'd better give you some vids how it happaen In Real Life. ;-)

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  21. You don't have to intake ALL knowledge. But you do need to learn "courage". And most, in the West, no longer do so.

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  22. Naaaah.

    ML/Neuronets proved -- ALL training data NEED to be observed/remmebered/"learned".

    Or... drastic mistakes will occur.

    Like WW mistakes.

    Third of which... we cannot afford.

    USA for sure.

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  23. I mean...

    there is NO way to know WHAT kind of information will be important and lead to win... and which not.

    And through intaking info -- one changed oneself.

    That's why people FEAR it -- to intake NEW, unusual info.

    Homeostasis.

    Instinct of survival.

    And knowing that... I cannot blame anyone...

    That's why being cretin like Derr Punn... is a bliss, actually. ;-P

    But such a bliss, anybody thinking would take as biggest... sin?

    Or... just my bullshit babbling. Heh.

    Kinishi nai. ;-P

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  24. You been? To Japan? Jes wondrin.

    I was deported from japan in '77. ;)

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  25. ALL training data NEED to be observed/remmebered/"learned".

    ...Muscle memory. ;)

    Like the DNA/genes of previous "incarnations". For "atavistic" purposes. :)

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  26. ...or the "bio-electric charge" that determines which DNA/Genes to "activate" during animal "assembly".

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  27. Training a model simply means learning (determining) good values for all the weights and the bias from labeled examples. In supervised learning, a machine learning algorithm builds a model by examining many examples and attempting to find a model that minimizes loss; this process is called empirical risk minimization.

    Descending into ML: Training and Loss | Machine Learning
    Google for Developers
    https://developers.google.com › crash-course › training-a...

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  28. They should apply that thinking to their dumb climate models that throw out the good data and bias what remains with the bad...

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  29. Hah...

    They WILL NOT allow ML/AI to do that staff.

    Because it... accidentally, could spill the truth. ;-P

    So... they will find "scientifical" excuse... that AI CANNOT be allowed to "solve climate change problem". ;-)

    PS How my prediction to you?

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  30. So yeah, I think your prediction is sh*t! AI is definitely coming for climate models. ;)

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  31. "Alchemy is not interested in truth like the scientific method, it's interested in operational success." - George Soros, "The Alchemy of Finance"

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  32. Chemistry takes to pieces, but it does not construct. Alchemy which sought to transmute one element into another, to prolong life, to arm with power,--that was in the right direction. All our science lacks a human side. The tenant is more than the house. Bugs and stamens and spores, on which we lavish so many years, are not finalities, and man, when his powers unfold in order, will take Nature along with him, and emit light into all her recesses. The human heart concerns us more than the poring into microscopes, and is larger than can be measured by the pompous figures of the astronomer. - Emerson, "Conduct of Life" (On Beauty)

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  33. Propaganda is what Ai does BEST!

    Meet the new "mainstream viewpoint". It's whatever the elites pay the AI programmers to make it. All "cloak of Gyges" ALL the time.

    Say goodbye to what was formerly known as mutual knowledge. It will be replaced entirely with "AI Programmed Propaganda".

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  34. ...intended to keep everyone in a permanent state of "Individual Knowledge".

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  35. \\ Chemistry takes to pieces, but it does not construct. Alchemy which sought to transmute one element into another, to prolong life, to arm with power,--that was in the right direction. All our science lacks a human side. The tenant is more than the house. Bugs and stamens and spores, on which we lavish so many years, are not finalities, and man, when his powers unfold in order, will take Nature along with him, and emit light into all her recesses. The human heart concerns us more than the poring into microscopes, and is larger than can be measured by the pompous figures of the astronomer. - Emerson, "Conduct of Life" (On Beauty)

    Dunno why you unload such things on me...

    while that exactly what I propose. ;-)




    \\...intended to keep everyone in a permanent state of "Individual Knowledge".

    Yap.

    And re-tool as into batteries.

    Yawn. :-)

    Why do you think Matrix was creating World for all... and not individual worlds???

    Economy. ;-P

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  36. They let the machines into the Matrix?

    They constructed separate worlds. One for humans. One for machines. Only one seemed "aesthetically" pleasing.

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  37. Who serves who in our "modern" world? Do machines serve men, or men, machines?

    "We Shape our Tools and thereafter they shape us. These extensions of our senses begin to interact with our senses. These media become a message."
    - Marshall McLuhan ('fake' quote)

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  38. Distinction without difference.

    Yawn.

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  39. \\Is it, mr. tech of the future?

    Evolution is a tech, isn't it?

    And we are product of that tech anyway.

    So. Yawn. What's up, Doc? Cranch-cranch. ;-P

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  40. A "tech' is created, and then manufactured. Evolution is simply "created" and proceeds serendipitously. You can't "manufacture" serendipity.

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  41. It requires "observers" to do the "feeling" that it lacks to complete the act of "creation".

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  42. ...that works in conjunction with space-time.

    Pre-modern man dealt with problems in space. Modern man, time.

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  43. Without consciousness, space and time are nothing. - Robert Lanza

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  44. "Man can do what he wills but he cannot will what he wills."
    - Arthur Schopenhauer

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  45. Ever REALLY look at the design of the Parthenon? The "levels" of columns? Athena and the 'other' gods/ goddesses? The winged Nike?

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  46. Their concept of the universe was ultimately more complete than our own.

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  47. \\You can't "manufacture" serendipity.

    Who said? ;-P


    \\"Man can do what he wills but he cannot will what he wills."
    - Arthur Schopenhauer

    Wisdoms of past tend o grow imprecise and outdated... with time.

    Well... and who said, they was precise in the first place??? ;-)



    \\Their concept of the universe was ultimately more complete than our own.

    Yep.

    Because narrowminded. ;-P

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  48. Well... and who said, they was precise in the first place??? ;-)

    Lindy! :)

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  49. Do you know what C4 photosynthesis are?

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  50. New Better Version.

    There always is a place for it... ;-)

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  51. I do now. Ecclesiastes 3. What goes around, comes around. Here today, gone to Maui.

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  52. Depend on what you (err, one... they say mentioning "you" looks impolite in english) want to achieve in life.

    Alexander the Great... wanted to reach End of the World. And became God. ;-P

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  53. Americans like to think we're "familiar", so "you" is always good.

    Alexander accomplished his goal, then. John Brennan wants to do the same thing.

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  54. I used it to describe hypothetical scenario. Like "let's imagine that you was beheaded -- what would you feel". ;-P

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  55. And their reaction was "I don't like your tone, mister". :-)))

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  56. "You" is personal, "one" is not. And intimacy, getting "personal" REQUIRES shared obscenity. Like a pass. If the "pass' is successful, no biggie. If it fails, she accuses you of indecency or some kind of sexual "assault". In the first case, she accepts you as an 'equal/ peer". In the second, she rejects you as "inferior/ lower class not worthy".

    You should have started with an impersonal dirty joke making them laugh and THEN asked the personal "beheading" question. The first gets you through the "shared obscenity" door.

    Like a woman. 1st base... 2nd base... third base... TTHEN home! ;)

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  57. why do you think good public speakers usually start off their speeches with a joke?

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  58. :-)

    Yeah.

    Your American school of public speaking. ;-P



    Your problem -- you gave too much information about yourself, American culture and habits.

    To people around the World.



    \\ If it fails, she accuses you of indecency or some kind of sexual "assault".

    Yeah. This too.

    Like in that apocrific story -- of differences between Brits and Ams.

    For brits fairwell kiss was(still are?) meaningful.

    While for Ams is just... like you said -- first base.

    So... when American soldiers in ww2 have come to England... obscenity ensured. ;-P

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  59. Just returning the favour to the Brits. We're still p*ssed about their "quartering" troops in American Houses Pre-Revolution.

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