Friday, April 19, 2024

Fermi Paradox - The Myelin Filter? Life May be Common... but Intelligence?

from Wiki:
Myelin is considered a defining characteristic of the jawed vertebrates (gnathostomes), though axons are ensheathed by a type of cell, called glial cells, in invertebrates.[16][17] These glial wraps are quite different from vertebrate compact myelin, formed, as indicated above, by concentric wrapping of the myelinating cell process multiple times around the axon. Myelin was first described in 1854 by Rudolf Virchow,[18] although it was over a century later, following the development of electron microscopy, that its glial cell origin and its ultrastructure became apparent.[19]

In vertebrates, not all axons are myelinated. For example, in the PNS, a large proportion of axons are unmyelinated. Instead, they are ensheathed by non-myelinating Schwann cells known as Remak SCs and arranged in Remak bundles.[20] In the CNS, non-myelinated axons (or intermittently myelinated axons, meaning axons with long non-myelinated regions between myelinated segments) intermingle with myelinated ones and are entwined, at least partially, by the processes of another type of glial cell the astrocyte

Functionally equivalent myelin-like sheaths are found in several invertebrate taxa, including oligochaete annelids, and crustacean taxa such as penaeids, palaemonids, and calanoids. These myelin-like sheaths share several structural features with the sheaths found in vertebrates including multiplicity of membranes, condensation of membrane, and nodes.[16] However, the nodes in vertebrates are annular; i.e. they encircle the axon. In contrast, nodes found in the sheaths of invertebrates are either annular or fenestrated; i.e. they are restricted to "spots". The fastest recorded conduction speed (across both vertebrates and invertebrates) is found in the ensheathed axons of the Kuruma shrimp, an invertebrate,[16] ranging between 90 and 200 m/s[17] (cf. 100–120 m/s for the fastest myelinated vertebrate axon).

62 comments:

  1. Hah... why you dislike Mr.B(r)in, then?

    They discuss such topics there. ;-P

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  2. Sorry if I got into the 3 Body Problem (Netflix?). Awaiting Season 2.

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  3. ps - And you know how the YouTube algorithm is. Once you've searched, it keeps coming up.

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  4. ps - And i always thought myelin was universal, and not limited to such a small fraction of species.

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  5. Aaaahm...


    well...

    infotainment.

    Yawn.

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  6. Hey, I saw Wall-E yesterday for the first time. Very prescient....

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  7. Hardly...



    BTW.

    Have you seen


    Just Visiting (film)
    Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org › J...
    It stars Jean Reno, Christina Applegate, Christian Clavier, Malcolm McDowell, Tara Reid, and Bridgette Wilson. It follows a medieval knight and his serf who ...

    Just to know your level of knowing european films. ;-)

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  8. Nope. But Christina Applegate used to (maybe still does) live around here (Harford County, MD)).

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  9. Nope. She divorced Johnathan Schaek back in 2007. He's really the one with local ties. :(

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  10. Hah...

    I... would care more about Jan Reno.

    And well... in that movie it was just episodic role.

    While that movie... is part of mini-series.



    But... thank you for your honest answer -- you are ignorant of European films too.

    Well, not like a big problem.

    Just a thing I need to keep in my mind to take into account every time...

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  11. \\ps - And you know how the YouTube algorithm is. Once you've searched, it keeps coming up.

    That's why I going anon -- that way Google can apply only regional filters on me. ;-P

    Well... they have such an option, in Google.

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  12. It's why I have many avatars with varied declared interests. Yu get more variety that way.

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  13. Ah, "Juan Moreno y Herrera-Jiménez" from "The Professional"... good movie. The cleaner.

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  14. Lefties spend too much time at Cannes swooning over the Palme d'Or. My former frenemy, Mr. Ducky was a huge <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Luc_Godard">Godard</a> fan.

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  15. Yawn... peripheria.

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  16. Moved here from late thread. Was it wrong thing to do?




    \\It's obvious they philo (love) Sophie (wisdom). And they are monogamous.

    Or... just platonic... about everything else. ;-P




    \\\\Yes, but why are we BACK in "Cold War times? For two decades we cooperated. Only NATO kept moving ever farther East...
    /Still don't get what "sworn enemy" mean.
    Yawn.

    \\I never swore it.

    SWORN ENEMY | English meaning - Cambridge Dictionary
    Cambridge Dictionary
    https://dictionary.cambridge.org › dictionary › sworn-e...
    SWORN ENEMY definition: 1. Sworn enemies are people who will always hate each other. 2. Sworn enemies are people who will…. Learn more.

    Sorry... I can proceed only with that I can find in dictionaries. :-(





    \\That's MAD talk!

    YAP!

    You gotcha!!!





    \\...with which I respond as always, "Molon labe"... Come, take... I'll meet you at the Hot Gates. ;)

    You have NO SDI. ;-P

    Which mean... that's lame bragging about having that "molon", only. ;-P





    \\Apparently the check's in the mail. But if I may be so bold and suggest that you use it "wisely". You may not have such opportunities to treat again at the trough of American Stupidity come January.

    ?????





    \\I doubt it. That was 30+ years ago. He'd be in his late 80's now. We used to get reamed by <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Welch">Jack Welch</a> over conference calls wanting to know the progress on our towed arrays and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beamforming">beamformers</a>. Maybe you should pitch your "robo-fish" to GE.

    GE???




    \\Use your OWN eyes, THEN decide what to believe/ disbelieve.

    Yap.




    \\Thanks, but I doubt I'll live another 10 years to lose it as a reference. Getting older's a b*tch.

    Given up on life already? :-(((((

    Maybe you really need some adrenaline surge... I mean, USA.

    To feel importance of life itself.

    Well, sorry... not of my business... just idle phylosophizing. %-)




    \\\\See how Brinn has "monetized" his blog?
    \\...
    \\...or writes off some tax expenses as an advertising space.

    Have doubts IT being smart enough for that. ;-P

    Especially as I spotted that moment when IT showed UTTER ignorance of IT sphere. ;-P



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  17. \\one of real values of Lem -- that he open to show that he is one with reader... in it.

    \\Sounds like a man after my own heart...

    In his "Mask" text.





    \\Seeing's one thing, acting's another.

    Yep.

    Because for acting one need a PLAN!

    Yes?




    \\Good 4u!

    Yea...





    \\I've been to plenty of sh*tholes. I'm beginning to live in one now. We derisively call it "The Swamp". It's a lot like Baltimore, but with a more dangerous, increasingly criminal, element.

    Heh...

    Well, as I have said... and saw no counter-examples -- there is NO way to fix OLD system... only possible to make NEW one.

    Like it's impossible to FIX a tree... that already rotten to a core and broken.

    Only to plant a new seedling.




    \\What's a Turing Machine? (And Why Does It Matter?) | by ...

    \\Can it build a factory for producing self-copies?

    If you'd provide it with sufficient program?

    Well... providing means to act in real world I omitted, as too obvious... here.

    For one who accustomed with NC tools from infancy.





    \\...and I honest about my own limitations (sometimes, not always).

    Same as we all... humans... self-proclaimed homo... sapience???




    \\So I don't want to eat the bugs. I prefer chicken and excess methane-producing beef (not net zero). Klaus Schwab is very exacting about implementing WEF's goals.

    Well...




    \\\\Where and when did you saw WISE aggressors? ;-P
    \\When they WIN, of course.
    \\...
    \\We'll see.

    Lose of tempo of Barbarossa operation... was enough for nazi generals to pre-see imminent defeat.

    For Japanese generals it was obvious EVEN BEFORE start.

    Front-line trench critters... got feeling of it with their bones... in Stalingrad and Midway.

    All other public... was in clouds till the fall of Berlin and Tokyo.

    Distant observers... are in clouds even today. ;-P (like that modern "followers of nazism", Derpy raved so much)




    \\That's not how SuperEgo works. It's more "whimsical". Which drive xformed into a 'desire' is knocking the loudest.

    Wasn't that Id traits? ;-P

    And this is just another example of Antipode's Effect.

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  18. /Moved here from late thread. Was it wrong thing to do?

    There is no right/wrong, just-is. ;)


    \\It's obvious they philo (love) Sophie (wisdom). And they are monogamous.
    /Or... just platonic... about everything else. ;-P


    Doesn't everyone enjoy getting their d*ck sucked? Vitruvian Man - centered on stomach and genitals.


    \\\\Yes, but why are we BACK in "Cold War times? For two decades we cooperated. Only NATO kept moving ever farther East...
    /Still don't get what "sworn enemy" mean.
    Yawn.
    \\I never swore it.
    /SWORN ENEMY | English meaning - Cambridge Dictionary
    Cambridge Dictionary
    https://dictionary.cambridge.org › dictionary › sworn-e...
    SWORN ENEMY definition: 1. Sworn enemies are people who will always hate each other. 2. Sworn enemies are people who will…. Learn more.
    Sorry... I can proceed only with that I can find in dictionaries. :-(


    I never swore it. I'm a sworn enemy to communists, not Russians. I'm also a sworn enemey to corporate capitalism, not bourgeois capitalism.


    \\That's MAD talk!
    /YAP!
    You gotcha!!!


    Which makes it improbable, since it relies upon supposedly sane-men to execute.


    \\...with which I respond as always, "Molon labe"... Come, take... I'll meet you at the Hot Gates. ;)
    /You have NO SDI. ;-P
    Which mean... that's lame bragging about having that "molon", only. ;-P


    Who needs SDI when a knife will do? Or in America's case, 300m guns? Invade. Like in Red Dawn's Wolverines. Molon Labe!


    \\Apparently the check's in the mail. But if I may be so bold and suggest that you use it "wisely". You may not have such opportunities to treat again at the trough of American Stupidity come January.
    /?????


    $60b for Ukraine


    \\I doubt it. That was 30+ years ago. He'd be in his late 80's now. We used to get reamed by Jack Welch over conference calls wanting to know the progress on our towed arrays and beamformers. Maybe you should pitch your "robo-fish" to GE.
    /GE???


    Yes GE. They used to integrate ASW systems like the AN/BSY-1 and numerous others... like the AN/SLR-24. Or market to the Navy directly at NUWC.

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  19. \\Use your OWN eyes, THEN decide what to believe/ disbelieve.
    /Yap.


    MBWA management by wandering around.


    \\Thanks, but I doubt I'll live another 10 years to lose it as a reference. Getting older's a b*tch.
    /Given up on life already? :-(((((
    Maybe you really need some adrenaline surge... I mean, USA.
    To feel importance of life itself.
    Well, sorry... not of my business... just idle phylosophizing. %-)


    No problem. It's an "age" thing. You'll find out.


    \\\\See how Brinn has "monetized" his blog?
    \\...
    \\...or writes off some tax expenses as an advertising space.
    /Have doubts IT being smart enough for that. ;-P
    Especially as I spotted that moment when IT showed UTTER ignorance of IT sphere. ;-P


    Wealthy people do hire accountants and tax advisors to do their taxes, though. And everyone loves a good write-off.


    \\one of real values of Lem -- that he open to show that he is one with reader... in it.
    \\Sounds like a man after my own heart...
    In his "Mask" text.


    Ah, I see said the nearly blind man. ;)


    \\Seeing's one thing, acting's another.
    /Yep.
    Because for acting one need a PLAN!
    Yes?


    Or one can improvise on-the-spot.


    \\I've been to plenty of sh*tholes. I'm beginning to live in one now. We derisively call it "The Swamp". It's a lot like Baltimore, but with a more dangerous, increasingly criminal, element.
    /Heh...
    Well, as I have said... and saw no counter-examples -- there is NO way to fix OLD system... only possible to make NEW one.
    Like it's impossible to FIX a tree... that already rotten to a core and broken.
    Only to plant a new seedling.


    True Dat... Alexander with the Gordian Knot. Only two ways to go...

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  20. \\What's a Turing Machine? (And Why Does It Matter?) | by ...
    \\Can it build a factory for producing self-copies?
    /If you'd provide it with sufficient program?
    Well... providing means to act in real world I omitted, as too obvious... here.
    For one who accustomed with NC tools from infancy.


    Yeah, well the tapes for the NC Mill's were usually programmed by my friend Danny on his Radio Shack TRS-80 and placed onto a tape cassette. I then "ran them" (played the tape) on the Cincinnati milacron NC Mill. So to me, the Turing Machine (TRS-80) and NC Mill were two different things. Old School, I know. Although at the shipyard, we were even more primative as we used to lay out the cut-steel patterns for plasma cutting on wood strips with white tape and pencil lines (for the cutter's automatic optical scanner to follow) at 1/4 scale on the floor of the sail loft and then take them to the Structural Shop for cutting the steel shapes (the optical scanner followed the pencil lines on the white tape)... so there was no Turing Machine in-the-mfg-loop.


    \\...and I honest about my own limitations (sometimes, not always).
    /Same as we all... humans... self-proclaimed homo... sapience???


    To err is human...


    \\So I don't want to eat the bugs. I prefer chicken and excess methane-producing beef (not net zero). Klaus Schwab is very exacting about implementing WEF's goals.
    /Well...


    I'm NOT a "Davos Man".


    \\\\Where and when did you saw WISE aggressors? ;-P
    \\When they WIN, of course.
    \\...
    \\We'll see.
    /Lose of tempo of Barbarossa operation... was enough for nazi generals to pre-see imminent defeat.
    For Japanese generals it was obvious EVEN BEFORE start.
    Front-line trench critters... got feeling of it with their bones... in Stalingrad and Midway.
    All other public... was in clouds till the fall of Berlin and Tokyo.
    Distant observers... are in clouds even today. ;-P (like that modern "followers of nazism", Derpy raved so much)


    Hypernormalised Hyperrealities are a b*tch (mode of distant observation). No way to wander around the trenches and speak with randomly encountered trench critters... unless they live near a Wi-Fi hotspot. ;)


    \\That's not how SuperEgo works. It's more "whimsical". Which drive xformed into a 'desire' is knocking the loudest.
    /Wasn't that Id traits? ;-P
    And this is just another example of Antipode's Effect.


    Ends that communicate through a symbolic maze.

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  21. \\There is no right/wrong, just-is. ;)

    Hah.

    But still... we are teleological creatures. ;-P



    \\Doesn't everyone enjoy getting their d*ck sucked? Vitruvian Man - centered on stomach and genitals.

    Just center of mass. ;-P




    \\I'm a sworn enemy to communists, not Russians.

    Every (true) Russian is a Commie. ;-P




    \\ I'm also a sworn enemey to corporate capitalism, not bourgeois capitalism.

    Whatever.





    \\\\That's MAD talk!
    /YAP!
    You gotcha!!!

    \\Which makes it improbable, since it relies upon supposedly sane-men to execute.

    Prisoner's Dilemma. AGAIN. ;-)





    \\Who needs SDI when a knife will do?

    Or machete. ;-)



    \\Or in America's case, 300m guns? Invade. Like in Red Dawn's Wolverines. Molon Labe!

    Invade? What for?

    Either you'd submit. Or you'd be destroyed.

    Bu-ga-gah! (in evil laughter tone, here)




    \\\\Apparently the check's in the mail. But if I may be so bold and suggest that you use it "wisely". You may not have such opportunities to treat again at the trough of American Stupidity come January.
    /?????

    \\$60b for Ukraine

    And nearly all of it is money for Americans to spend in America...

    so, yeah... use it wisely. Please.

    Like on some NEW techs. ;-)




    \\Yes GE. They used to integrate ASW systems like the AN/BSY-1 and numerous others... like the AN/SLR-24. Or market to the Navy directly at NUWC.

    8-)))

    Now you scared me for real... with acronyms.

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  22. \\MBWA management by wandering around.

    "Only two things nobody can take from me -- what I have eaten, and what I have seen"(c) :-)



    \\No problem. It's an "age" thing. You'll find out.

    You think I not smart enough to know it already?

    Hint (piece of "precious" personal info): I do know it... from very little age.

    That's why I so bent on Progress -- trying to see as much as possible, became wise as much as possible... and if possible, to became stooopid... as much as possible too. ;-P




    \\Wealthy people do hire accountants and tax advisors to do their taxes, though. And everyone loves a good write-off.

    "One need to be wise... to listen to wise advises"(c) Lem... again.

    And that is... not our case.





    \\Ah, I see said the nearly blind man. ;)

    Yeah... cold plot summary... not able to warm up anybody's heart.

    Same as excerpts from some ancient Greeks writing...

    ;-(((((




    \\Or one can improvise on-the-spot.

    "In state of emergency you'd not rise to the level of your expectations... but will fall to the level of your everyday practice routine". ;-P

    Wisdom of martial arts training. ;-)

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  23. \\So to me, the Turing Machine (TRS-80) and NC Mill were two different things.

    Well... and they are.

    There was tryes to profess...


    Von Neumann universal constructor
    Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Von_Neumann_univer...
    John von Neumann's universal constructor is a self-replicating machine in a cellular automaton (CA) environment. It was designed in the 1940s, ...


    But they are... utterly impractical.




    \\so there was no Turing Machine in-the-mfg-loop.

    Are you sure? ;-)

    Turing Machine -- it's just a Cellular Automate... with memory.

    Reminds something... err, someone? ;-)




    \\Hypernormalised Hyperrealities are a b*tch (mode of distant observation).

    Same as in times of Homer (NOT Simpson ;-P).




    \\No way to wander around the trenches and speak with randomly encountered trench critters... unless they live near a Wi-Fi hotspot. ;)

    Do you want more links to videos?





    \\\\That's not how SuperEgo works. It's more "whimsical". Which drive xformed into a 'desire' is knocking the loudest.
    /Wasn't that Id traits? ;-P
    And this is just another example of Antipode's Effect.

    \\Ends that communicate through a symbolic maze.

    ???

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  24. Well.

    "
    "
    The robot gradually gains the ability of introspection, becomes aware of her predicament, and struggles to overcome it. Along her path she meets a priest and confesses. The priest asks what she would do when she sees Arrhodes, and she answers she does not know. To that the priest comments that she and he are "equal before the Divine Providence". In other words, the ability to have doubt is a humanizing trait.[4][2]
    "
    "

    Crucial part of that story is present.

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  25. \\I'm a sworn enemy to communists, not Russians.
    /Every (true) Russian is a Commie. ;-P


    ...and I thought him "orthodox"... :(


    \\Who needs SDI when a knife will do?
    /Or machete. ;-)


    Touche!


    \\Or in America's case, 300m guns? Invade. Like in Red Dawn's Wolverines. Molon Labe!
    /Invade? What for?
    Either you'd submit. Or you'd be destroyed.
    Bu-ga-gah! (in evil laughter tone, here)


    With a certain ricochete bullet?

    *Evil laughter stops as body hits the ground.*




    \\\\Apparently the check's in the mail. But if I may be so bold and suggest that you use it "wisely". You may not have such opportunities to treat again at the trough of American Stupidity come January.
    /?????
    \\$60b for Ukraine
    /And nearly all of it is money for Americans to spend in America...
    so, yeah... use it wisely. Please.
    Like on some NEW techs. ;-)


    No doubt you'll get the Rev 0 and we'll replace it with a Rev 6...


    \\Yes GE. They used to integrate ASW systems like the AN/BSY-1 and numerous others... like the AN/SLR-24. Or market to the Navy directly at NUWC.
    /8-)))
    Now you scared me for real... with acronyms.


    That's the NAVY for You. Everyone needs a DICNAVAB (Dictionary of Navy Abbreviations) ;)


    \\No problem. It's an "age" thing. You'll find out.
    /You think I not smart enough to know it already?
    Hint (piece of "precious" personal info): I do know it... from very little age.
    That's why I so bent on Progress -- trying to see as much as possible, became wise as much as possible... and if possible, to became stooopid... as much as possible too. ;-P


    Sorry to hear it. And yes, that's me speaking from my stooopidity.


    \\Wealthy people do hire accountants and tax advisors to do their taxes, though. And everyone loves a good write-off.
    /"One need to be wise... to listen to wise advises"(c) Lem... again.
    And that is... not our case.


    When it comes to money, most are wiser than you think.


    \\Ah, I see said the nearly blind man. ;)
    /Yeah... cold plot summary... not able to warm up anybody's heart.
    Same as excerpts from some ancient Greeks writing...
    ;-(((((


    Speak for yourself. At my age, it's mostly about the "surplus" jouissance.


    \\Or one can improvise on-the-spot.
    /"In state of emergency you'd not rise to the level of your expectations... but will fall to the level of your everyday practice routine". ;-P
    Wisdom of martial arts training. ;-)


    :)

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  26. \\So to me, the Turing Machine (TRS-80) and NC Mill were two different things.
    /Well... and they are.
    There was tryes to profess...
    Von Neumann universal constructor
    Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Von_Neumann_univer...
    John von Neumann's universal constructor is a self-replicating machine in a cellular automaton (CA) environment. It was designed in the 1940s, ...
    But they are... utterly impractical.


    See my most recent post. He may be making a comeback.


    \\so there was no Turing Machine in-the-mfg-loop.
    /Are you sure? ;-)
    Turing Machine -- it's just a Cellular Automate... with memory.
    Reminds something... err, someone? ;-)


    Old Verba non Acta?


    \\Hypernormalised Hyperrealities are a b*tch (mode of distant observation).
    Same as in times of Homer (NOT Simpson ;-P).


    Or the rhapsodes of Plato's "Ion".


    \\No way to wander around the trenches and speak with randomly encountered trench critters... unless they live near a Wi-Fi hotspot. ;)
    /Do you want more links to videos?


    Not really. You can only hear their screams, not ask them questions. :(


    \\\\That's not how SuperEgo works. It's more "whimsical". Which drive xformed into a 'desire' is knocking the loudest.
    /Wasn't that Id traits? ;-P
    And this is just another example of Antipode's Effect.
    \\Ends that communicate through a symbolic maze.
    ???


    Of neurons.


    /Well.
    "
    "
    The robot gradually gains the ability of introspection, becomes aware of her predicament, and struggles to overcome it. Along her path she meets a priest and confesses. The priest asks what she would do when she sees Arrhodes, and she answers she does not know. To that the priest comments that she and he are "equal before the Divine Providence". In other words, the ability to have doubt is a humanizing trait.[4][2]
    "
    "
    Crucial part of that story is present.


    So, do you think she killed him? Or did she succeed in "repressing" THAT part of her programming? (and develop an "Oedipus Complex?)

    You know, the part of the the Oedipus story where he jabs the clasps from Jocasta's (his mother's) dead body and blinds himself.

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  27. \\\...and I thought him "orthodox"... :(

    :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

    You didn't saw that icons with Stalin on it? Or even liliPut... today. ;-P




    \\No doubt you'll get the Rev 0 and we'll replace it with a Rev 6...

    You didn't here that reports???

    About how poorly your Sillicon Valley drones performed in REAL environment.



    \\That's the NAVY for You. Everyone needs a DICNAVAB (Dictionary of Navy Abbreviations) ;)

    :-)




    \\Sorry to hear it. And yes, that's me speaking from my stooopidity.

    What for?

    That is just an example of that accidental uniqueness... of each of us.

    I... just was able to rise it on conscious level -- who em I, and why I am that way.

    Because of Lem.





    \\When it comes to money, most are wiser than you think.

    Heh.

    Group think?

    Yeah... that is what makes regular idiot (looking?) wise?




    \\Speak for yourself. At my age, it's mostly about the "surplus" jouissance.

    Must be same -- yet one case of talking past each other. ;-/

    As I...

    still not internalized that ""surplus" jouissance" meaning.





    \\See my most recent post. He may be making a comeback.

    Meh.




    \\Old Verba non Acta?

    Humans are... just a CA... with memory. ;-P




    \\Not really. You can only hear their screams, not ask them questions. :(

    You still... so full of misconceptions...





    \\\\Ends that communicate through a symbolic maze.
    ???

    \\Of neurons.

    Eeeeeeeeeh???




    \\So, do you think she killed him?

    In text he broke his cark... from falling.

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  28. \\\...and I thought him "orthodox"... :(
    /:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
    You didn't saw that icons with Stalin on it? Or even liliPut... today. ;-P


    Dancing in church with Pussy Riot?


    \\No doubt you'll get the Rev 0 and we'll replace it with a Rev 6...
    /You didn't here that reports???
    About how poorly your Sillicon Valley drones performed in REAL environment.


    As 1st generation drones are apt to do.


    \\Sorry to hear it. And yes, that's me speaking from my stooopidity.
    /What for?
    That is just an example of that accidental uniqueness... of each of us.
    I... just was able to rise it on conscious level -- who em I, and why I am that way.
    Because of Lem.


    What's a body for? (Deleuze) ;)


    \\When it comes to money, most are wiser than you think.
    /Heh.
    Group think?
    Yeah... that is what makes regular idiot (looking?) wise?


    The Capitalist Discourse supercedes all others (and goes largely unrecognized/ unconscious).


    \\Speak for yourself. At my age, it's mostly about the "surplus" jouissance.
    /Must be same -- yet one case of talking past each other. ;-/
    As I...
    still not internalized that ""surplus" jouissance" meaning.


    Like the "surplus value" of watching porn but w/o an actual orgasm (little death of desire). So you keep thinking about doing it instead of thinking of something else and/ or your mind returns to it. It's the source of "obsessive repetition". As with me and my love, "wisdom". Whenever I catch her, she "changes". One day, like Tiresias, I'll find her (Athena at her bath, Tennyson).


    \\Old Verba non Acta?
    /Humans are... just a CA... with memory. ;-P


    Remind me to go sleep under a magnet and bath in the river Lethe...


    \\Not really. You can only hear their screams, not ask them questions. :(
    /You still... so full of misconceptions...


    Why should I differ from everyone else?


    \\\\Ends that communicate through a symbolic maze.
    ???
    \\Of neurons.
    /Eeeeeeeeeh???


    Meh.


    \\So, do you think she killed him?
    /In text he broke his cark... from falling.


    Repression's a b*tch. "Le passage a l'acte"

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  29. "
    "
    Stemming from the general abstract notion of the body in metaphysics,[3] and the unconscious in psychoanalysis, Deleuze and Guattari theorized that since the conscious and unconscious fantasies...
    "
    "

    Bleh! Yakk!! Yakkity-Yakkk!!! ;-P




    \\The Capitalist Discourse supercedes all others (and goes largely unrecognized/ unconscious).

    Yap.

    SAME as Ether supercedes all other types of matter. ;-P


    Fire (classical element)
    Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org › F...
    Fire is one of the four classical elements along with earth, water and air in ancient Greek philosophy and science. Fire is considered to be both hot and ...

    Meh.




    \\As with me and my love, "wisdom". Whenever I catch her, she "changes". One day, like Tiresias, I'll find her (Athena at her bath, Tennyson).

    Hmmmm....

    And what if your mind is not enough to hold it? ;-)




    \\Why should I differ from everyone else?

    That... was just a factual remark.

    Non-judging.

    It's up to you to decide what to do with your life.




    \\\\\\Ends that communicate through a symbolic maze.
    ???
    \\Of neurons.
    /Eeeeeeeeeh???

    \\Meh.

    Was that Lacan neuro-scientist?

    Meh, indeed.

















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  30. /"
    "
    Stemming from the general abstract notion of the body in metaphysics,[3] and the unconscious in psychoanalysis, Deleuze and Guattari theorized that since the conscious and unconscious fantasies...
    "
    "
    Bleh! Yakk!! Yakkity-Yakkk!!! ;-P


    Don't talk back!


    \\The Capitalist Discourse supercedes all others (and goes largely unrecognized/ unconscious).
    /Yap.
    SAME as Ether supercedes all other types of matter. ;-P
    Fire (classical element)
    Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org › F...
    Fire is one of the four classical elements along with earth, water and air in ancient Greek philosophy and science. Fire is considered to be both hot and ...
    Meh.


    Noble gasses (non-reactive/ chemically stable/ good for fire suppression) ;P


    \\As with me and my love, "wisdom". Whenever I catch her, she "changes". One day, like Tiresias, I'll find her (Athena at her bath, Tennyson).
    /Hmmmm....
    And what if your mind is not enough to hold it? ;-)


    My head will explode?


    \\Why should I differ from everyone else?
    /That... was just a factual remark.
    Non-judging.
    It's up to you to decide what to do with your life.


    You'll meet no bigger fan of Don Quixote.


    \\\\\\Ends that communicate through a symbolic maze.
    ???
    \\Of neurons.
    /Eeeeeeeeeh???
    \\Meh.
    /Was that Lacan neuro-scientist?
    Meh, indeed.


    No, first a medical doctor, then psychiatrist. Freud was though. He performed comparative brain anatomy for years before inventing psychiatry.

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  31. \\Bleh! Yakk!! Yakkity-Yakkk!!! ;-P

    \\Don't talk back!

    :-))))))))))

    Well, thank you.




    \\Noble gasses (non-reactive/ chemically stable/ good for fire suppression) ;P

    Whatever.

    Ancient Greek was oblivious of em.

    And even if you'd tell em... they would have some preposterous misconceptions about em. ;-P




    \\And what if your mind is not enough to hold it? ;-)

    \\My head will explode?

    Heh...




    \\You'll meet no bigger fan of Don Quixote.

    I... wouldn't be so sure.

    As it seems that Cervantes was biggest and very first one. ;-P





    \\No, first a medical doctor, then psychiatrist. Freud was though. He performed comparative brain anatomy for years before inventing psychiatry.

    Bleh.

    Clockwork master that knew only one tool to *FIX* a clock... and that is -- hammer. ;-P (well, not his fault... as there was NO other tools then)

    Yakkity Yak!




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  32. Well... but... still prefer this ;-P

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  33. \\\\And what if your mind is not enough to hold it? ;-)

    \\My head will explode?

    \\Heh...

    And I only thought that you are bent on opening new horizonts. ;-P

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  34. \\Bleh! Yakk!! Yakkity-Yakkk!!! ;-P
    \\Don't talk back!
    /:-))))))))))
    Well, thank you.


    De nada.


    \\Noble gasses (non-reactive/ chemically stable/ good for fire suppression) ;P
    /Whatever.
    Ancient Greek was oblivious of em.
    And even if you'd tell em... they would have some preposterous misconceptions about em. ;-P


    Platonic solids. They had an "ether" too.


    \\And what if your mind is not enough to hold it? ;-)
    \\My head will explode?
    /Heh...


    Okay... brain melt down into a lump of dross?


    \\You'll meet no bigger fan of Don Quixote.
    /I... wouldn't be so sure.
    As it seems that Cervantes was biggest and very first one. ;-P


    Which is why I'd hate to be the man who killed him. For whom the gods would destroy, they first drive mad.

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  35. \\No, first a medical doctor, then psychiatrist. Freud was though. He performed comparative brain anatomy for years before inventing psychiatry.
    /Bleh.
    Clockwork master that knew only one tool to *FIX* a clock... and that is -- hammer. ;-P (well, not his fault... as there was NO other tools then)
    Yakkity Yak!


    ...Talk therapy (yakkity Yak)! Because the "symbolic" is language/math (same or difference circuits). You only need to pay conscious "attention" to the "differences" and filter out "sameness".


    /Well... but... still prefer this ;-P

    Y yo, esto:

    se sienta a la mesa y escribe

    "con este poema no tomarás el poder" dice
    "con estos versos no harás la Revolución" dice
    "ni con miles de versos harás la Revolución" dice

    y más: esos versos no han de servirle para
    que peones maestros hacheros vivan mejor
    coman mejor o Ă©l mismo coma viva mejor
    ni para enamorar a una le servirán

    no ganará plata con ellos
    no entrará al cine gratis con ellos
    no le darán ropa por ellos
    no conseguirá tabaco o vino por ellos

    ni papagayos ni bufandas ni barcos
    ni toros ni paraguas conseguirá por ellos
    si por ellos fuera la lluvia lo mojará
    no alcanzará perdón o gracia por ellos

    "con este poema no tomarás el poder" dice
    "con estos versos no harás la Revolución" dice
    "ni con miles de versos harás la RevoluciĂłn » dice

    se sienta a la mesa y escribe



    \\\\And what if your mind is not enough to hold it? ;-)
    \\My head will explode?
    \\Heh...
    /And I only thought that you are bent on opening new horizonts. ;-P


    My mind is but a lump of dross.

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  36. Sorry... I unable to deshiffer reasons of this your try of self-deprecation.

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  37. \\\\And what if your mind is not enough to hold it? ;-)
    \\My head will explode?
    \\Heh...
    /And I only thought that you are bent on opening new horizonts. ;-P
    \My mind is but a lump of dross.
    /Whatever.
    Sorry... I unable to deshiffer reasons of this your try of self-deprecation.


    Much like Arthur Schopenhaer, the only "new horizons" I'm headed for aren't towards any "undiscovered countries/ futures" in this life. As he stated, "life is a process of preparing one's-self for death".

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  38. With hope that there's some happy ever after?

    I'd better seek for make it longer... and more interesting...

    but, maybe I just not that tired of it.

    Or... have just differ "unique" biochemistry in my brain.

    Go figure.

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  39. Well... I know your side of the pasture.

    So... hardly you can provide any argument why on your side it's greener...

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  40. Mortality is a problem that offers no work-arounds or solutions. Eventually all the springs wind down. And consciousness cannot be directly transferred from one machine (or dimension) to another.

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  41. It's all in the brain wave patterns running on a constantly changing hardware platform and "biochemistry".

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  42. \\Mortality is a problem that offers no work-arounds or solutions.

    BS.

    Especially in our days and age.

    That is just our utter fear of changes.

    How do I know??? Is it just shallow taunt???

    Naaaah.

    I know it for sure -- because I feeling that fear MYSELF.

    But... able to look into its ugly face. ;-P

    And show my tongue to it. ;-PPP





    \\And consciousness cannot be directly transferred from one machine (or dimension) to another.

    Machines... of type we know NOW.

    But... our own bodies -- is just machines.

    We just NOT mastered technology they made with... yet.





    \\It's all in the brain wave patterns running on a constantly changing hardware platform and "biochemistry".

    So what?

    It just mean that "live longer" can be just YET ONE of such changes...




    \\We reboot it every day, until the last one.

    Naaah.

    It real-time. And without downtimes.

    And that's whole problem.

    But... we able to run no-downtime systems today.

    And even transfer processes "on the fly". Suspend and snapshot. And whatever we want.

    Only... that is possible with some other tech.

    NOT one which inside our body (as we not mastered it, yet).

    But... by analogy, that is obviously possible.

    It's just... we need to became "much smarter"... -)

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  43. /But... able to look into its ugly face. ;-P
    And show my tongue to it. ;-PPP


    I see it more as a friend planning for a visit.


    \\And consciousness cannot be directly transferred from one machine (or dimension) to another.
    /Machines... of type we know NOW.
    But... our own bodies -- is just machines.
    We just NOT mastered technology they made with... yet.


    Thanks goodness. The life of a Struldbrugg, when he get's older, is NOT very pleasant unless he is "incorporate" (ie "Apple Computer, Inc").


    \\It's all in the brain wave patterns running on a constantly changing hardware platform and "biochemistry".
    /So what?
    It just mean that "live longer" can be just YET ONE of such changes...



    \\We reboot it every day, until the last one.
    /Naaah.
    It real-time. And without downtimes.
    And that's whole problem.
    But... we able to run no downtime systems today.
    And even transfer processes "on the fly". Suspend and snapshot. And whatever we want.
    Only... that is possible with some other tech.
    NOT one which inside our body (as we not mastered it, yet).
    But... by analogy, that is obviously possible.
    It's just... we need to became "much smarter"... -)


    Naaaah. Just more accepting.

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  44. \\I see it more as a friend planning for a visit.

    Whatever.




    \\Thanks goodness. The life of a Struldbrugg,

    Well... it's up to you... how'd you engineer it.

    Your own body as your own house. ;-)

    Do you not see a freedom of it?

    Is there ONLY one way to build a ship???

    Naaah. There's MANY.




    \\Naaaah. Just more accepting.

    Whatever.

    Been there. Done... eeeeehm, not yet, and see no point for rush. Bo-o-o-o-oring!

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  45. \\I see it more as a friend planning for a visit.
    /Whatever.
    \\Thanks goodness. The life of a Struldbrugg,
    /Well... it's up to you... how'd you engineer it.
    Your own body as your own house. ;-)
    Do you not see a freedom of it?
    Is there ONLY one way to build a ship???
    Naaah. There's MANY.


    Except you're not allowed to violate USCG or the Insurance body rules (ABS/Loyds) when building it. And so "innovation" is often suppressed.


    \\Naaaah. Just more accepting.
    /Whatever.
    Been there. Done... eeeeehm, not yet, and see no point for rush. Bo-o-o-o-oring!


    Then affirm & embrace "pure" differences. And don't feel obligated to try and "negate" them. Like "muh Rusha"... Move "beyond" good & evil. ;)

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  46. \\Except you're not allowed to violate USCG or the Insurance body rules (ABS/Loyds) when building it. And so "innovation" is often suppressed.

    That's why NEW techs are so nifty thing -- freedom from bureaucrats. ;-P




    \\Move "beyond" good & evil. ;)

    Yeah. NEW techs, NEW ways...




    \\Don't like psychoanalyses? Then embrace schizoanalysis. Board the "pirate" ship.

    I already investigating cretino-analysis. ;-P



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  47. \\Except you're not allowed to violate USCG or the Insurance body rules (ABS/Loyds) when building it. And so "innovation" is often suppressed.
    /That's why NEW techs are so nifty thing -- freedom from bureaucrats. ;-P


    WHAT??? You mean "expansion of the bureaucracy". Parasites for new hosts. And delays for study and approval.


    \\Move "beyond" good & evil. ;)
    /Yeah. NEW techs, NEW ways...


    New goods. New evils.

    Conservative, n: A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal who wishes to replace them with others.
    - Ambrose Bierce


    \\Don't like psychoanalyses? Then embrace schizoanalysis. Board the "pirate" ship.
    /I already investigating cretino-analysis. ;-P


    Yes, they fall into the same category. ;)

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  48. \\WHAT??? You mean "expansion of the bureaucracy". Parasites for new hosts. And delays for study and approval.

    Well, whatever.

    You yourself able to exist... because of bureacracy inside your OWN body.

    Or what??? You like to have thoughtful control of your intestines peristaltics?

    While observing and controlling how that hotdog transform into feces?

    Really????!!!! :-))))))))))))))))))))))))




    \\Conservative, n: A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal who wishes to replace them with others.
    - Ambrose Bierce

    It's all misnomers today.

    Conservatives -- do not conservate anything.

    Progressists -- do not do any Progress (well, actually they stall it... with all their might... you know who, isn't it?).

    That is, because... "wizdoms of past... became imprecise and even outdated... with time".

    Yawn.





    \\Yes, they fall into the same category. ;)

    Eeeeeeeh????

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  49. \\WHAT??? You mean "expansion of the bureaucracy". Parasites for new hosts. And delays for study and approval.
    /Well, whatever.
    You yourself able to exist... because of bureacracy inside your OWN body.
    Or what??? You like to have thoughtful control of your intestines peristaltics?
    While observing and controlling how that hotdog transform into feces?
    Really????!!!! :-))))))))))))))))))))))))


    That's left to the "intelligences" of the peristalsis (digestive) systems. What, THAT isn't a type of intelligence? Autonomic vice Artificial Intelligence? One operating neuronally?


    \\Conservative, n: A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal who wishes to replace them with others.
    - Ambrose Bierce
    /It's all misnomers today.
    Conservatives -- do not conservate anything.
    Progressists -- do not do any Progress (well, actually they stall it... with all their might... you know who, isn't it?).
    That is, because... "wizdoms of past... became imprecise and even outdated... with time".
    Yawn.


    Evolution's a b*tch, for certain. Plato, "Cratylus"

    SOCRATES: Nor can we reasonably say, Cratylus, that there is knowledge at all, if everything is in a state of transition and there is nothing abiding; for knowledge too cannot continue to be knowledge unless continuing always to abide and exist. But if the very nature of knowledge changes, at the time when the change occurs there will be no knowledge; and if the transition is always going on, there will always be no knowledge, and, according to this view, there will be no one to know and nothing to be known: but if that which knows and that which is known exists ever, and the beautiful and the good and every other thing also exist, then I do not think that they can resemble a process or flux, as we were just now supposing. Whether there is this eternal nature in things, or whether the truth is what Heracleitus and his followers and many others say, is a question hard to determine; and no man of sense will like to put himself or the education of his mind in the power of names: neither will he so far trust names or the givers of names as to be confident in any knowledge which condemns himself and other existences to an unhealthy state of unreality; he will not believe that all things leak like a pot, or imagine that the world is a man who has a running at the nose. This may be true, Cratylus, but is also very likely to be untrue; and therefore I would not have you be too easily persuaded of it. Reflect well and like a man, and do not easily accept such a doctrine; for you are young and of an age to learn. And when you have found the truth, come and tell me.

    CRATYLUS: I will do as you say, though I can assure you, Socrates, that I have been considering the matter already, and the result of a great deal of trouble and consideration is that I incline to Heracleitus.

    SOCRATES: Then, another day, my friend, when you come back, you shall give me a lesson; but at present, go into the country, as you are intending, and Hermogenes shall set you on your way.

    CRATYLUS: Very good, Socrates; I hope, however, that you will continue to think about these things yourself.



    \\Yes, they fall into the same category. ;)
    /Eeeeeeeh????


    Cretins and Schizos... :)

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  50. \\That's left to the "intelligences" of the peristalsis (digestive) systems. What, THAT isn't a type of intelligence? Autonomic vice Artificial Intelligence? One operating neuronally?

    Yeah.

    That's out bodily evolutional bureaucracy. ;-P




    \\and if the transition is always going on, there will always be no knowledge, and, according to this view, there will be no one to know and nothing to be known:

    Like something bad... yawn... for at least, it's antithetic to boredom. ;-P






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  51. \\That's left to the "intelligences" of the peristalsis (digestive) systems. What, THAT isn't a type of intelligence? Autonomic vice Artificial Intelligence? One operating neuronally?
    /Yeah.
    That's out bodily evolutional bureaucracy. ;-P


    As is your measely contribution. ;P


    \\and if the transition is always going on, there will always be no knowledge, and, according to this view, there will be no one to know and nothing to be known:
    /Like something bad... yawn... for at least, it's antithetic to boredom. ;-P


    So is placing your fingers in a light socket. Can I perhaps interest you in a razor for wrist slicing?

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  52. Really???

    Yawn.

    So... when dentist drilling your tooth... you are not actually bored? ;-P

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  53. Not if his cute dental asst is giving me a handjob... ;P

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  54. Don't believe in women dantists? ;-P

    What a filthy mizoginitst ya are. ;-P

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