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And by a prudent flight and cunning save A life which valour could not, from the grave. A better buckler I can soon regain, But who can get another life again? Archilochus

Friday, May 26, 2023

On Byung-Chul Han's "Psychopolitics"


Anton Cebalo, "Living in a Time of Psychopolitics: How an idea by philosopher Byung-Chul Han helps us reframe our world"
In the early 1970s, psychologist Herbert Freudenberger wrote of a condition he was seeing more and more among his patients: emotional exhaustion coupled with a loss of motivation and commitment. He called it “burnout” — borrowing a term initially used in the underground by those suffering severe withdrawal from drug abuse.1

It quickly caught on both clinically and among everyday people, helped by Freudenberger’s autobiographical style in describing it. He had experienced the condition himself in bouts. But more importantly, the diagnosis came at a critical time in American society as it was transitioning to a more “post-industrial” way of life, yet another term coined around the same time.2 Americans were graduating in greater numbers and increasingly pursuing knowledge-based work in offices, which was especially susceptible to stress and psychological ailments.3

The “burnout” of professionals in a “post-industrial” society: the two ideas were clearly linked. They also provided a window into the new era, one that was loosely being called the “Information Age.” The immediate relevance of Freudenberger’s ideas was obvious, and would soon be made into wellness questionnaires by psychologist Christina Maslach and others. By the 1980s, corporate management realized this malady was here to stay and began to craft methods specifically for dealing with demotivated labor.

These developments have since had time to deepen and mature, and today are more relevant than ever. In the last two years, many workers have resigned, often suddenly, due to a lack of fulfillment and burnout in what’s been called the “Great Resignation.” These familiar sentiments are the starting point for philosopher Byung-Chul Han’s writings which have grown popular as of late.

In his 2017 work Psychopolitics, Han writes of how power today has grown reliant on manipulating psychological states, uniquely made possible by technologies of control. Its symptoms are of the mind, like burnout and diseases of despair, coupled with addiction and compulsion. Understanding psychopolitics helps us to reframe the time in which we live, where one’s mental state has become a leading place of conflict.

Life Under Psychopolitics

Psychopolitics opens with an ominous statement: “freedom will prove to have been merely an interlude," something that's most felt when "passing from one way of living to another."4 Byung-Chul Han views the current situation as the turning of a new page, whose psychological ailments constitute a “profound crisis of freedom." The forces responsible operate on a level which he calls “psychopolitics.”

While Byung-Chul Han writes clearly, he also has a tendency to write aphoristically, very much in the style of a pamphlet. He is best known for his social diagnoses, writing often on themes like alienation, burnout, and how market demands have broken up the social fabric. Psychopolitics itself is a collection of short essays and a distillation of his worldview.

The book, however, is not historical by any means which may confuse the reader over how any of this is unique to our time. After all, psychological techniques on the unconscious, either in the realm of politics or markets, have been used to great effect since the early 20th century. For example, can fascism be called a form of psychopolitics? It certainly relied on mass psychology.

Psychopolitics is not "psychology applied to politics," though. Han describes psychopolitics as a new stage in how we relate to power, made possible by online life. Long ago, in agrarian societies of the past, power was exercised by the sword and threat of death.5 In succeeding industrial societies, power was exercised not by the threat of death, but by discipline and regulation over life. It needed to efficiently manage the physical bodies needed for production.6 Now in post-industrial societies, power is exercised by allowing individuals to exploit themselves in an open, transparent, and increasingly zero-sum environment. Rather than controlling bodies, Han argues psychopolitics is mainly about souls and minds.7

Because sentiment travels fastest in the digital realm, Han likens psychopolitics to a "dictatorship of emotion" in its ability to manipulate desire and opinion.8 In such an environment, "freedom switches over to compulsion" and addiction is rampant.9 Participation is easily reduced to grievance and complaint.10 Grand narratives of the future that used to motivate the past break down.11 This is because there is no longer a "political we" like before nor are there clear classes of mutual antagonism, Han argues.12 Instead, a world dominated by psychopolitics produces a constant "inner struggle against oneself."13 The boundaries between work and leisure weaken as well.14 And trust altogether declines because “the more we are confronted with information, the more our suspicion grows.”15

The ideal subject for psychopolitics according to Han is the always-optimizing "self-entrepreneur" who is unable to form relationships "free of purpose."16 Such social relationships, he argues, would ideally be the basis for healthy, non-coercive freedom. Psychopolitics tends to instead produce generalized anti-sociality.

Han’s writing tends to cut through the noise with concise insight, and I don’t want to quote the entire book here. But what is most convincing about his view is how abundantly clear its symptoms are.

In a previous post, I have already covered the ongoing “social recession” and community decline. Still, there are other signs we live in psychopolitical times: random acts of anti-social violence; deep democratic discontentment17; historical amnesia and memory loss18; and an unprecedented rise in mental illnesses like depression, anxiety, bipolar disorder, insomnia, and attention-deficit disorders.19

In many ways, it is evident we are living in a psychopolitical time, one especially susceptible to maladies of the mind and soul. A quote for today ought to be “protect me from what I want,” a phrase Han borrows from artist Jenny Holzer.

Byung-Chul Han’s Dystopia

While these are all pressing problems in their own right, what really strikes the reader when reading Han’s work is the alarming tone. Really, what he is intent on illustrating are the dire stakes if we do not undo “that which is changing freedom into coercion.”20

On this question, he unabashedly sets his target on “Big Data,” the platforms and market forces exploiting psychopolitics. The tech monopolies operate on a vast scale, transforming people into raw data and “quantifiable selves” amenable to surveillance, manipulation, and directed consumption. These entities allied with the state could leverage psychopolitics and its proclivity for emotion to simulate desired outcomes. It is creating a situation where, Han believes, “free will itself is at stake."21

He writes:

In the age of digital psychopolitics… influence takes place at the pre-reflexive level.

For human beings to be able to act freely, the future must be open. However, Big Data is making it possible to predict human behavior. This means that the future is becoming calculable and controllable. Digital psychopolitics transforms the negativity of freely made decisions into the positivity of factual states.

Persons are being positivized into things which can be quantified, measured and steered. Needless to say, no thing can be free. But at the same thing, things are more transparent than persons.22

The disciplinary power [of industrial society] discovered “population” as a productive and reproductive mass to be administered carefully. Reproductive cycles, birth and death rates, levels of general health, and life expectancy provided the objects for regulation.

However, this approach is unsuited to the neoliberal regime, which exploits the psyche above all. Big Data provides the means for establishing not just an individual but a collective psychogram, perhaps even the psychogram of the unconscious itself.23

[Digital psychopolitics] manages to intervene in psychic processes in a prospective fashion. Quite possibly, it is even faster than free will. As such, it could overtake it. If so, this would herald the end of freedom.

It is possible that Big Data can even read desires we do not know we habor… [thus] rendering the collective unconscious accessible... in the position to take control of mass behavior on a level that escapes detection.24
The invisible technological forces that Han describes are already in play, molding culture and politics. The thought of a society managed through algorithmic prediction and suggestion is a disturbing prospect. Yet, I am also encouraged by the fact that these systems have so far failed miserably in predicting the future. Human spontaneity is still clearly present nowadays, often expressing itself in spite of any attempt at control, albeit very chaotically. Society has not yet been reduced to just inputs and outputs.

Living in Spite of Psychopolitics

Byung-Chul Han illustrates a grim picture of technological control and emotional manipulation, whose complexity is hard to fathom. Still, we interact with it every day, and part of its appeal is it is mostly curated for us. A psychopolitical breakthrough was the popularization of the “infinite scroll” in the early 2010s, as timelines moved away from being strictly chronological, with Facebook leading the way.25 This also coincided with social media being less about connecting with real-life friends.

A while back, I stumbled upon an essay written in 2017 on a website called Graphite Journal. In it, an anonymous user writes, “the internet is larger than any one metropolis, but browsing it today feels like walking down a narrow circular hallway.”

They go on to recount a story of how in 1956, philosopher Guy Debord looked over some sociological studies on Parisian city-dwellers and noticed something similar. He was surprised to find their movements across the city quite limited, “forming a triangle with little deviation.” From such a realization, Debord proposed the idea of the dérive: the conscious decision to pass through areas and moods previously untraveled, drawn by whatever attraction one finds. The goal of dérive was to reject the narrow hallways one is forced into, and instead, turn them into bigger worlds. “It is high time that we develop a dérive for the internet,” the user writes.

When I read Han’s work, I’m reminded of the need to cultivate thoughts and worlds beyond what’s curated for us. And perhaps that also starts with cultivating our physical public spaces and third places as well, so that we have an actual home and community outside of psychopolitical dynamics. Oddly enough, I think the solution, in this case, seems fairly straightforward although admittedly difficult to carry out in practice.

1 Wilmar B. Schaufeli, “Burnout: A Short Socio-Cultural History.” Pg. 105, 107.

2 American sociologist Daniel Bell published The Coming of Post-Industrial Society in 1974.

3 What makes post-industrial society possible is the growth of knowledge-based work led by educated workers. In 1960, only 41% of Americans finished high school and just 7.7% graduated college. See below.

 

4 Byung-Chul Han. Psychopolitics (2017), pg. 1.

5 Psychopolitics, pg. 19.

6 Industrial society concerned itself with administering bodies. One of its breakthroughs was Taylorism, a form of scientific management that became popular at the turn of the 20th century named after Frederick Winslow Taylor. It was a new way of organizing labor and capital in production. This would be applied to state planning, and later utilized by both fascist and communist-aligned governments to transform their public.

Some other focuses of modern industrial society were eugenics and demographic questions.

7 Han borrows this “body and soul” language from philosopher Gilles Deleuze who he quotes. Disciplinary society was about the body and psychopolitics is about the soul.

8 Psychopolitics, pg. 46.

9 Psychopolitics, pg. 2.

10 Psychopolitics, pg. 3.

11 In Revolt of the Public (2013), Martin Gurri writes that the new digital public is largely a negating force that tends to break down all authority and norms. This is because it struggles to form a positive vision of society. This fact is a core feature of psychopolitics as well according to Han.

12 Psychopolitics, pg. 6.

13 Psychopolitics, pg. 5.

14 Many can vouch for feeling like work and leisure bleed into each other. In some cases, online life can completely distort one’s internal rhythm and sense of time which is why sleep disorders are more common nowadays.

15 There’s a widely-shared quote by Harvard Biologist E.O. Wilson who said that “we are drowning in information while starving for wisdom.” It should be said that more and more information does not necessarily confer more meaning. In fact, it’s the opposite. Han talks about this in a recent interview with Noema Magazine.

16 Psychopolitics, pg. 2.

17 In 2019, Cambridge University’s Centre for the Future of Democracy recorded the highest level of discontentment across all democracies since it began conducting survey research in 1995. There’s been no follow-up since the pandemic.

18 L. M. Sacasas on his substack blog The Convivial Society has written some excellent essays on how the internet distorts our sense of time and memory.

He writes:
On the internet, there is no present, only variously organized fragments of the past.

We no longer encounter the past principally as a coherent narrative informing our present and future action into the world. The past, is now encoded in ponderous databases, and it can be readily and endlessly re-interpreted, reshuffled, recombined, and rearranged. This activity is what now consumes our time and energy.

On the internet, fighting about what has happened is far easier than imagining what could happen.

Because we live in the past when we are online, we will find ourselves fighting over the past. Because our fighting is itself inscribed and inscriptions cannot be defeated only overwhelmed, it very quickly becomes part of what is fought over. The casus belli recedes inexorably from view as it is layered over by the cascading inscriptions, which themselves become things to be fought over. Soon, it becomes impossible to map the course of the conflict or even make sense of it. And nothing changes.
19 The alarming rise of mental disorders is well-documented, largely affecting those who grew up digitally. A turning point seems to be around 2012. But there has been a steady increase in prescriptions for anti-depressants, SSRIs, and ADHD medication since the 1990s as well.

20 Psychopolitics, pg. 2.

21 Psychopolitics, pg. 60-61.

22 Psychopolitics, pg. 12.

23 Psychopolitics, pg. 21.

24 Psychopolitics, pg. 63-65.

25 https://www.theverge.com/2014/3/6/5469952/facebook-goes-back-to-basics-with-latest-news-feed-redesign

76 comments:

Q said...

\\But there has been a steady increase in prescriptions for anti-depressants, SSRIs, and ADHD medication since the 1990s as well.

Because of it become available. Yawn.

We, as Humanity did not learned how to prevent problems beforehand... only how to (try to) fix... and that, only when it ready to bit our asses. Yawn.


-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Ever hear of the stereotype of "the drunken Indian". Why do you suppose it came about? Because of the invention of whiskey? How about the "drunken Irishman"? These are symptoms of societal problems, not the discovery of alcohol.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

America is experience a crisis of opioid abuse. This isn't crack cocaine or heroine of the black communities in the 702/80s. This is working class whites in the 2010s & 2020's. So why now? Psychopolitics.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

:P

Q said...

Cocaine in the beginning of 20th century was just a drug "to make one feel more fresh".

Alcohol... remind me, for how many thousand years we have access to it? ;-)

But... only when it became mass-produced and accessible... and, demends for sobriety of worker became more stern. (like... difference between peasant in a field VS worker inside heavy machinery steel jungles)

See... systemmatic approach.;-)

Q said...

\\This is working class whites in the 2010s & 2020's. So why now?

Well... sci-fi discussed that as "loss of purpose". And even propopsed a cure...

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

...or MUCH more likely:

“The slow cancellation of the future has been accompanied by a deflation of expectations. There can be few who believe that in the coming year a record as great as, say, the Stooges’ Funhouse or Sly Stone’s There’s A Riot Goin’ On will be released. Still less do we expect the kind of ruptures brought about by The Beatles or disco. The feeling of belatedness, of living after the gold rush, is as omnipresent as it is disavowed. Compare the fallow terrain of the current moment with the fecundity of previous periods and you will quickly be accused of ‘nostalgia’. But the reliance of current artists on styles that were established long ago suggests that the current moment is in the grip of a formal nostalgia, of which more shortly.

It is not that nothing happened in the period when the slow cancellation of the future set in. On the contrary, those thirty years has been a time of massive, traumatic change. In the UK, the election of Margaret Thatcher had brought to an end the uneasy compromises of the so-called postwar social consensus. Thatcher’s neoliberal programme in politics was reinforced by a transnational restructuring of the capitalist economy. The shift into so-called Post-Fordism – with globalization, ubiquitous computerization and the casualisation of labour – resulted in a complete transformation in the way that work and leisure were organised. In the last ten to fifteen years, meanwhile, the internet and mobile telecommunications technology have altered the texture of everyday experience beyond all recognition. Yet, perhaps because of all this, there’s an increasing sense that culture has lost the ability to grasp and articulate the present. Or it could be that, in one very important sense, there is no present to grasp and articulate anymore.”

― Mark Fisher, Ghosts of My Life: Writings on Depression, Hauntology and Lost Futures

Q said...

Well... new techs can create new futures, open new horisons. ;-)

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

...but only if/when allowed to emerge. Like the so-called carburator that allows 200 miles per gallon. If invented, would it ever see manufacturing?

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

...or would oil companies buy the pantents and sit on them?

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Inventions today from from University, corporate, and government research, not individual inventors. And that research which is pursued... needs to be funded by someone with an "interest" in seeing its' future development. An Elon Musk... or a DARPA.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Will YOUR idea ever see daylight? Again, who's "interested"? Or even more interesting, who's "opposed"?

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

If it is revolutionary, there will be those who seek to bury it.

Q said...

As always...

(re)watched documentary about Columbus yesterday -- it was a problem for him too -- to find... a sponsor?

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Ours is a Society of Control. The doors will either open for you, OR they will be closed.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Isabella and Ferdinand were prepared for expansion. What if they had been on the defense? Would they have sponsored Chris?

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

...or would they have built armada's, instead?

Q said...

\\Will YOUR idea ever see daylight? Again, who's "interested"? Or even more interesting, who's "opposed"?

That's what I'm trying to dewise.

And that seems like more problematic... than dewise tech itself -- that was pretty much obvious...

Who knows? already.

Nobody did it before -- collected info about how and why innovation found some traction.

We know only some historical anekdotes:

About Napoleon and steam engine... about Einstain and his domb shell letter... about Jobs ans Woz in the garage... ;-)

Q said...

\\Isabella and Ferdinand were prepared for expansion. What if they had been on the defense? Would they have sponsored Chris?

Yap.
That is question nobody knows an answer... yet.


\\...or would they have built armada's, instead?

???

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

The future as been foreclosed. We live in an hauntology. Nostalgia is everywhere. Iron Man 3,4.....6,000 is the future.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

??? gunships for defense.

America built small FAST ships... clippers. Why? To outsail slower British Man-of Wars and Revenuers. We were smugglers.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

...the British were "blockaiders".

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

You are trying to hatch a "dragon". Every city with a castle wall will be out to kill your hatchling.

Q said...

Well... if we'd not be keen enough to self-evolve...
Nature will find a way to stirr us...
as it was before ww1... then ww2 ;-)

I'd better learn how it doing it... or yet better -- how to do that for us.

But... I am too little for that... and knw only how to glue some byte with each other, how to stitch some lumps together... to do something.

All that high-brow thought about fates or destiny of Humankind -- go to more promonent phylos (like Zizek) with that. ;-P

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

You won't be seen as offering a new opportunity so much as you will be posing a future threat to their continued dominance.

Q said...

\\America built small FAST ships... clippers.

Kirsage vs Alabama?



\\You are trying to hatch a "dragon".

More like basilisk. ;-P

Q said...

\\You won't be seen as offering a new opportunity so much as you will be posing a future threat to their continued dominance.

Ehm? Einstain's letter? ;-)

Q said...

The peaceful strength is the feeling that the strength will be with you, that you will not lose it, despite the threat. And then you go your own way, no matter what anyone says, no matter what anyone tries to do.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Kearsage vs Alabama? No, we didn't fight the British... we ran from them.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

...and we only won our "revolution" when the French fleet came and kept Cornwallis from running away. Naval warfare involves a LOT of "running away". Like Dunkirk.

Q said...

Then... I know no examples of that...

AFIK there was a gap -- in between time of sails and time of modern drednoughs... when many different designs was tryed -- but seems like was not tested, reliably.

Isn't that funny? ;-)

It seems that is the same as in Evolution -- like with that trilobites.
Some not too good explored page. Of science and history.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

clippers

Q said...

Well... we do not have Theory of Warfare... still.

Same as Theory of History.

Because it is (iunevitable?) part of it.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

It's one of the many reasons I still love the America's cup yacht race.

Q said...

Ough... I thought about tea clippers. Cutty Sark and Co.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

There are plenty theories of warfare, but only one that matters. Destroy the enemies will to fight.

Q said...

Well... my experience is only of that old and boring 6-paddle boat. Long ago... (shy)

Of which I recall one sea knot name -- for making riffs, at best.

That is level of my profanity. :-)))

Q said...

Did you mean hypothesises? ;-)

Scientific theory -- is like that Bugum. ;-) Much more deadly, and efficient.

Like they say: "there is nothing more practical than (reliable) scientific theory". ;-)

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

My experience is mainly a hobie cat rented on vacation one summer... although I did crew for an All American sailor once or twice on a larger boat. He (Alex) was supposed to go to the Olympics in 1980, but we boycotted over Afghanistan invasion.

Q said...

Real sails, real sea... well, ocean. Jelous. (shy)

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

...and more "definitional"... Jomini did not attempt to define war but Clausewitz did, providing (and dialectically comparing) a number of definitions. The first is his dialectical thesis: "War is thus an act of force to compel our enemy to do our will." The second, often treated as Clausewitz's 'bottom line,' is in fact merely his dialectical antithesis: "War is merely the continuation of policy with other means." ...


...a principle or maxim.

Q said...

Yap.

But that is... phenomenological definition -- one which do not and cannot reveal any inner mechanisms...

That is like idea of Aristotle(?) about "gravity" as some kind of attraction of one material bodies toward other.

Compare it with Newton's Theory of Gravity. ;-)

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Well, I don't need absolute clarity... just something to point me in the right direction and let the resulting "experience" take over. ;)

As Napoleon once said, "attack at the angles"....

Not very clear, but still... useful... even when ineffective (Gettysburg - Pickett's charge).

Q said...

https://espreso-tv.translate.goog/nayskladnishe-zhiti-vseredini-protsesu?_x_tr_sl=uk&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=uk&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Q said...

\\Well, I don't need absolute clarity... just something to point me in the right direction and let the resulting "experience" take over. ;)

Practice, practice and again... practice. ;-)

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Hence the "end" of the "end-times". ;)

Welcome to Meta.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

btw - I gotta run now. It's been good talking with you this am. :)

Q said...

\\Welcome to Meta.

Like something new. Yawn.

Family. Tribe. Nation. Now corporations... that is, traditional values in and out. ;-)

Q said...

\\Isabella and Ferdinand were prepared for expansion.
...or would they have built armada's, instead?

Do you know that historial trivia?
That that Ninya, Pinta and Santa Maria -- was quite old and ordinary cargo ships. ;-)

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

...which is why in the early 1500's, the British began filling their ships with cannons... to prey on Spanish ships returning from the new world with treasure.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

:)

Anonymous said...

Yeah.

Or... like Pirates of Silicon Valley. ;-P

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

lol! My High School.

Anonymous said...

:-)

Q said...

Have it happend to you to know it...

The Glass Bead Game - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org › wiki › The_Glass_Bead_Game
The Glass Bead Game is the last full-length novel by the German author Hermann Hesse. It was begun in 1931 in Switzerland, where it was published in 1943 ...



\\btw - I gotta run now. It's been good talking with you this am. :)

Looks like we played it here. ;-) Unintentuoinally. Wadayathnk?

Thersites said...

Sounds like something out of Harry Potter...

Anonymous said...

Well... kinda. :-)

Joe Conservative said...

A pensieve-like process...

Anonymous said...

Rorshah test?

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

I love free association. :)

Anonymous said...

Well... "...it's better when it free". ;-)

Anonymous said...

That is... problem of all that ideal artifical constructs.

Even two problems.

Inner and outer.

Inner -- our human's cognitive abilities is that much different that "one size suits all" simple do not work.

Outer -- our universe does not built that way... yes, yes, Pithagor was idiot -- it based not on math, but on techs... like to every thing there is many limitation, which can allow to develop it this or that way... but cannot be again, summed under "one size suits all".

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Quantum v. Einsteinian Universes... "All" fits one size.

Anonymous said...

;-P

Anonymous said...

But... that's damn big XXXXXXXXXLLLL. ;-)

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Hey, my shirt sizes don't go THAT big! :)

Anonymous said...

Yap. :-)

tea short of a size of Universe. That fatso. %)

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

...and made from the fabric of Space-Time.

...can I get an everything bagel to go?

Anonymous said...

Sorry... hard tp parse it out. :-(

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

That's okay, it's "meaningless".... just like in the movie.

Anonymous said...

Well... medias (like TV, socnets, etc) trying to push all such "must watch" crap...

but, it is not that successful... as it wants?

Like, I saw no Game of Trones... while know basic plot and etc...

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

I never saw "Titanic" either. Some media is just "too" hyped.

Anonymous said...

Well... beginning of it, not that bad. ;-)

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

As a fan of "tragedy"... I would prefer the ending. The hero should always die for his struggle...

Anonymous said...

"Legend of Bagger Vence"? ;-)

(Re)Watche recently.


\\As a fan of "tragedy"... I would prefer the ending. The hero should always die for his struggle...

Then. European movies... at your service. ;-)

Like, earlier mentioned "Cyborgs".

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Bagger Vance? Nobody dies. The Magical Negroes save the white protagonist.