Friday, November 6, 2015

The Democracy Fetish

43 comments:

FreeThinke said...

Oh dear! If Brother Slavoj honestly believes the ability of two miserable, crafty little Commie bastards like Woodstein and Bernward to overthrow any president of the United States –– with the full might and main of the Washington Post, the New York Times, the L.A. Times, the Boston Globe, the Chicago Tribune, CBS, NBC, ABC, Time, Life, U.S. News & World Report, et al. behind them –– is "a wonderful thing," I have to begin to doubt his sanity.

Also, I wish he'd explain WHY he takes a positive view of COMMUNISM?

It must be the kind of "communism" that could only develop during an extended Pipe Dream.

-FJ said...

What he's saying is that the lesson of the movie was that "Democracy works". The "truth" overcame power. We both know that THAT isn't true any more. The IG for Intelligence is now saying that the TS memo's on Hillary's servers weren't classified. Exxon Mobile is being prosecuted for lying about "global warming". American conservative groups are being denied tax-exempt status because they're "conservative".

Our democracy is an Imperial FARCE, FT. All is NOT well with Democracy. It's rotten as Hell.

As for communism, Slavoj's is not the "old" communism. But then, best as I can tell, it's no better.

-FJ said...

I can also tell you this. When Marx talked about "history" having a certain inevitable "progression" (deterministic) he was absolutely full of sh*t. But when Lacan says that "language" has a certain inevitable "progression", he's not lying. Every word contains the "logical" seeds of its own refutation. So the "words" we invent today, become the "moral goals" we attempt to meet (but never do) tomorrow.

KNOWLEDGE BASS said...

Yall be hatin on demoncrasey. U lose votin against gettin free money like nobody else be doin so u thank demoncrasey broke but you the broke ass not gettin paid u go ahead keep votin to stay broke while the governing give me yo money

KNOWLEDGE BASS said...

Capitalizzum be about the ends for the means yo I make that money writing my name on a paper while u dumbass go to work I be making money for a month after like 15 minutes of paperwork while you work all day like a sucka u lucky I don't fill papers out all day you be so broke

-FJ said...

It's all about the Benjamins, KB. The minute we run out, the party's over.

Red Herring said...

...and the herrings! Don't forget the herrings!

KNOWLEDGE BASS said...

That why Obama tell China put mo shit on the buffet or we gone eat at Indonesia buffet

Gert said...

Slavoj Žižek, as the YouTube title suggests, doesn't 'hate' democracy: by his own words he doesn't even despise it.

It's about time Žižek elaborates more on what he understands by Communism, we really only know he's specifically not referring to the Stalinist-Leninist variety (although your pet-idiot FT seems unaware of that!)

As regards those wishing democracy away, careful what one wishes for because one might just get it!

Gert said...

*wrongly suggests*, that should have shown.

KNOWLEDGE BASS said...

I be thanking that demoscy caint be killed coz it all about people getting what they want, what they prefer. That why democrasey and capitalizzum be inseperatible coz democrasey be about most people gettin what they want and most people want mo money so given they choice people gone do what benefit they self the most wid the least amount to lose. They also got the democrasey of dissent and shit coz like in America most people want free education so most people don't pay they loans back. That democrasey in action right there partna

KNOWLEDGE BASS said...

The great grandillusion be that some few hunnert people up in D.C. control 300 meeyen American citizens like they run the show and shit but lol at they stats and shit people buck wild in the streets yo they be like muthafuckas gettin shot up all up in they hood in Chicago ain't no of see who done it coz snitches get stitches and ain't no gun law or bullshit speech gone stop a broths from blastin someone who wrong him. They gota come out they castle to rule and they know they get straight bum rushed and curbstomped the minute they try. It ain't mob rule till you face the gillerteen bitch excuse my language but you can get consint or you can get dissint but eitha way people be rulin themselves making they own choys and shit ya feel me?

Thersites said...

I feel ya, KB.

One of Zizeks many 'other' points is that un-democratic capitalism seems to be doing pretty well in Singapore, Chine and the Far East... so perhaps democracy and capitalism aren't as 'joined at the hip' as many Westerners believe.

And Gert, I believe he calls himself a Communist because every word/term contains the germ of it's own antithesis. We need to move "through" communism to come out to a resolution between the two forms: communism-capitalism, if there is one. Zizek beieves the latter form is in its' terminal stage, with the advent of a 'salaried bourgeois' and state/global capitalism. On that oint, we agree.

Thersites said...

...Pinkers "social relations" model needs a fourth term... and Zizek is in pursuit of it.

Thersites said...

Perhaps with the merger of individual knowlege and mutual knowledge into a single form in the "Information Age".

Thersites said...

We are Borg...

Thersites said...

...as Zizek supports Wikileaks/Assange.

Thersites said...

Communism in the name of obscenity...?

KNOWLEDGE BASS said...

I thank democrasey and freedum be universal yo u look at China and don't see democrasey but I do. It ain't about voting it be about gettin what u want and avoidin what u don't want so like nobody out protestin they Chinese govamimt coz they prefer Chinese govamint over gettin run over by a tank. Them Chinese people choose living under the thrett of gettin run down by a tank instead of busting out they Kung Fu and beatin they govamints ass with some numbchucks and shit. They responsible they self's for livin the way they do. They chose that. Democrasey be the rule everywhere.

KNOWLEDGE BASS said...

Them Jews that got gassed by the Ku Klux Klan back in Nazi Germany days could have chose to fight them racist dept they saw a free train ride and got screwed so u just gotta unnerstan democrasey don't save nobody from choosin wrong.

KNOWLEDGE BASS said...

People don't unnerstan Zizek so it good they put subtitalls on his video but I unnerstan him it ain't about rules and rulemaker it be about what you choose to live with yo that man make a rule that say u can't knock out a cop but the next day that cop in the hospitall so he off the street anyway.

KNOWLEDGE BASS said...

They say to KB man u obseen but that's just a mouth runnin they can talk till u knock they jaw off then they make meaninless noyze than need subtittals.

-FJ said...

Too true, KB. Too true.

KNOWLEDGE BASS said...

America be great coz u don't have to work if you don't want to the govamint buy u a house and food and some spendin money for blunts and if you get extra hongry u can orda a pizza for yo neighbor crib and go knock out the pizza boy when he bring they pie around then sue the pizza racists when they say they don't deliver to yo hood no mo
.

KNOWLEDGE BASS said...

That how that nigga Herman Cain became the Godfather ya feel me?

Titan Uranus 2 said...

I feel ya KB. I feel ya. Sucka's ain't our prob.

Gert said...

"American conservative groups are being denied tax-exempt status because they're "conservative"."

Evidence, please?

Thersites said...

You obviously have not followed the IRS Scandal very closely. Does the name Lois Lerner ring any bells?

KNOWLEDGE BASS said...

I don't pay no taxes that ho got no power she want the power I got they call her lerner but she don't even know how to save her email like she don't lern nothin

Gert said...

"And Gert, I believe he calls himself a Communist because every word/term contains the germ of it's own antithesis."

Hmmm... Far more concrete.

As regards your 'scandal', cry me a river. Seems more like one of your 'Planned Parenthood' divestments for one of their ['liberal'] 'postpone tax exempt statuses'. American 'democracy', in other words...

Joe Conservative said...

The federal budget directly funds Planned Parenthood. It's got nothing to do with taxes.

Joe Conservative said...

ps - re: link - I can hardly wait for December's Venezuelan election!

Joe Conservative said...

The fetish will either "redeem" itself, or get cast off in favor of a new caudillo.

KNOWLEDGE BASS said...

Gert tryna bait and switch u yo Gert why you bring up old shit damn Chavez dead he don't run South America no mo

KNOWLEDGE BASS said...

Yall see mo democrasey in action yo them niggas say they not gone play football till that racist resign yo he resigned and they still gots they skoolership to play football if the rest of they demands met yo they gone have grape soda fountains when its over

KNOWLEDGE BASS said...

When yall tired of soshall justace yall gone fold coz yall got no cards in yo hand except defundin a skool when the brothas take over what they gonna do come out and say we ain't gone have skool till them niggas give us football they betta reckonize ain't no nigga gone play football fo free

Gert said...

"The federal budget directly funds Planned Parenthood. It's got nothing to do with taxes."

C'mon Joe. The purpose is the same. An endless tit-fer-tat-fer-tit-fer-tat palindrome. 'You block this? We block that!'

Venezuela: I was never quite as obsessed with Chavez as Farmer was.

-FJ said...

Ant the Exxon-Mobil lawsuit, Keystone pipeline, and PCU's are just tits requiring Republican TATs. Look forward to 2017. The Left will get them in SPADES. :)

Gert said...

Crikey Guvner, gore blimey, it's political correctness gown mad, innit: Xmas murdered by Big Coffee! :)

Joe Conservative said...

Start looking forward to much MUCH more TAT in the future, perfidious Albion. ;)

Gert said...

We don't seem to do tit-fer-tat as well as you guys.

Having said that, I have written to the RH MP. I started with 'Right Honourable Nobhead' and finished with season's greetings: 'Don't forget to have a wank under the mistletoe'.

Hopefully the message gets past the 'secretary'.

In other 'news', Beaky's finally figured out Harry's Place is a 'Chablis Socialist' site. 3 months that took him. Speed of mind was never his strong suit...

-FJ said...

I do much admire your "Prime Minister's questions". I'd rather have a ridiculing blowout of anarchical shouting than the fanfare and finger shaking monolgues that pass for proper conduct in our annual Joint Session of Congress.

But then, you are a monarchy and have no trouble dealing with political ambiguities. You exported all your "Puritans" to America.

Gert said...

And now Albion is still *rse-kissing them! :)