The Cognitive Tradeoff Hypothesis:
Long Term vs Working Memory? Bytes vs. Bits
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The cognitive tradeoff hypothesis argues that in the cognitive evolution of humans, there was an evolutionary tradeoff between short-term working memory and complex language skills. Specifically, early hominids sacrificed the robust working memory seen in chimpanzees for more complex representations and hierarchical organization used in language. The theory was first brought forth by Japanese primatologist Tetsuro Matsuzawa, a former director of the Primate Research Institute of Kyoto University (KUPRI).
Matsuzawa suggests that at a certain point in evolution, because of limitations in brain capacity, the human brain may have acquired new functions in parallel with losing others – such as acquiring language while losing visuospatial temporal storage ability.
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Yeah.
No-brainer trivia for technologist -- if chosen one function over another, it inhibits that another.
Yawn.
Face of a winner. ;-P
Xi and Macron? What did they win?
Who looks more like a winner to you? ;-P
But... you bragging about studying psychology... but unable to read faces? (facepalm)
Neither. Xi lives in a bubble. He's currently the least informed leader on Planet Earth. Why would I think he's a "winner". Didn't even know his spy balloons got shot down.
Maybe... but, he still MOST informed about thing... about which everybody else, are totally oblivious. ;-P
Economy of China. ;-)
Naaah. That's Wang Huning's job. Didn't you watch the vid?
His job -- to produce misguiding disinformation for gullible Westerners. ;-P
Anecdote.
From your turf.
Newspaper spreading boy: "Sensation! Sensation! 100 people fooled".
Passing-by one giving him quarter, taking one newspaper.
Boy continues: "Sensation! Sensation! 101 people fooled". ;-)
Old joke from Lindy. Still works!
With those who lost their memory...
Let's play strategic game.
0. Now, RFia declared tactical nukes exercises. With desire to make believe that that mean that such will be used against Ukraine. With idea that West will became "scared".
Let's assume, that it happened.
Without details (as what nuke, where used, it worked or was shit down and etc) just that -- IT HAPPENED.
What would it give? To RFia. And what would be reaction of all other World?
PS Added numbers. To simplify discussion. AFTER WHICH stage -- there'd be RE-ACTION from USA???? %-))))))
Let's assume negative scenario all way down.
1. Ukraine either would give up right away(like after being decapitated, after nuke on Kyiv (though, Patriots)). Or... after some following nuking out and NO reaction from EU and/or USA.
Ukraine -- surrenders. What's next???
RFia stops war? Not waging throwing nukes all over East Europe? Not starting "exercises" of Strategic Nukes???
Why??? What should STOP em???
Teethless WH's "you are amoral scum"??? Some more name calling of Bi-den, calling liliPut "bandit"???
:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Well.
There's a fork.
USA EITHER will start operation Iron Dome.
Maybe with demonstration of OWN capabilities. Like... I dunno, like dropping some mock-bomb... in the middle of Siberia...
Or.
2. USA and WH will CONTINUE playing "nobody's home".
And... liliPut WILL start offensive over Europe. With waging "you SAW what happened to Ukraine, surrender ...OR ELSE!".
AGAIN!.
USA EITHER respond with operation Iron Dome...
Or... will declare "nobody's home".
So... offensive over Europe WILL continue.
And with help from China.
Let's assume ALL POSITIVES... for USA.
That SAME TIME there'd be NO waging war over USA by China. Or its satellite North Korea.
All just to make USA cosy stay in its "isolationism" strategy.
What amount of time? And how hard?
3. It would be for RFia to subjugate Europe... one country in a time.
After dropping nuke at each... or many nukes at each.
How many???
I think... would say ONE YEAR will be enough.
So...
WISE American.
What WILL happen.
After END of that year -- with Europe being subjugated. World economy destroyed. You USA staying ALONE.
4. While in Atlantic and Pacific there'd be dozens, thousands, many thousand... of all kinds submarines, ships and even rafts...
with nukes.
Or... with all kinds of other weapon...
On one of that steps... USA will be FORCED to react.
All question -- on which.
/With those who lost their memory...
Naaah. We used to do 'skits' in Boy Scouts... Another was two guys with telephone who can't hear each other, and so ask for volunteers to help hold up the invisible line between them to communicate better, with the final punch line being, "1) Catch any fish?...2) no, but I've got 5 (or N) suckers on the line"
/Let's play strategic game.
0. Now, RFia declared tactical nukes exercises. With desire to make believe that that mean that such will be used against Ukraine. With idea that West will became "scared".
Let's assume, that it happened.
Without details (as what nuke, where used, it worked or was shit down and etc) just that -- IT HAPPENED.
What would it give? To RFia. And what would be reaction of all other World?
What happened? Used nuke or not?
Look, I just watched the 1st Zizek video in my latest posts about movie "Casablanca" and whether they "did it" or not in the airport tower 2.5 seconds. The point is that whether the "did it" or not was purpose of the airport tower scene. Everyone gets what they want out of it. Censors get sex scene removed (absent), audience get's signs that they "did it" (phallic airport tower/ smoking cigarettes in later scene after tower shot). It's win-win. It's a quantum/ Shrodinger cat scene.
Nukes are simply "Shrodinger Cat" stand-ins. A "tower scene". We can all get what we want from them. Russia gets to believe they made a threat. Europe get's to believe thay'll never use them on them.
/PS Added numbers. To simplify discussion. AFTER WHICH stage -- there'd be RE-ACTION from USA???? %-))))))
/Let's assume negative scenario all way down.
1. Ukraine either would give up right away(like after being decapitated, after nuke on Kyiv (though, Patriots)). Or... after some following nuking out and NO reaction from EU and/or USA.
Ukraine -- surrenders. What's next???
RFia stops war? Not waging throwing nukes all over East Europe? Not starting "exercises" of Strategic Nukes???
Why??? What should STOP em???
Teethless WH's "you are amoral scum"??? Some more name calling of Bi-den, calling liliPut "bandit"???
:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Washington doesn't care if Russia nukes Ukraine OR Ukraine surrenders after. They know that if THEY get nuked, they'll "avenge" the act. World destroyed, no humans left, but hey, Rusha got what it deserved!
/Well.
There's a fork.
USA EITHER will start operation Iron Dome.
Maybe with demonstration of OWN capabilities. Like... I dunno, like dropping some mock-bomb... in the middle of Siberia...
They'll definitely start building more nukes and useless ABMs, but there won't be any demonstrations in Russian territory, I suspect. At most there would be a B-2 strike on Russia's oil/gas fields, but even that would provoke a nuke strike.
/Or.
2. USA and WH will CONTINUE playing "nobody's home".
And... liliPut WILL start offensive over Europe. With waging "you SAW what happened to Ukraine, surrender ...OR ELSE!".
No, US will uphold NATO commitments and launch nukes on Russia if they attack a member nation with nukes. Otherwise, it's just a convention WWIII and a "China" escalation issue.
/AGAIN!.
USA EITHER respond with operation Iron Dome...
Or... will declare "nobody's home".
Nope. See conventional WIII option explained above.
So... offensive over Europe WILL continue.
/And with help from China.
Let's assume ALL POSITIVES... for USA.
That SAME TIME there'd be NO waging war over USA by China. Or its satellite North Korea.
All just to make USA cosy stay in its "isolationism" strategy.
It doesn't matter what China does/ doesn't do. It will be WWIII for all. China will likely choose to stay out and "win the peace" that follows.
/What amount of time? And how hard?
3. It would be for RFia to subjugate Europe... one country in a time.
After dropping nuke at each... or many nukes at each.
How many???
I think... would say ONE YEAR will be enough.
So...
WISE American.
What WILL happen.
I told you. USA will uphold its' treaty commitments and country will move to a war footing.
After END of that year -- with Europe being subjugated. World economy destroyed. You USA staying ALONE.
4. While in Atlantic and Pacific there'd be dozens, thousands, many thousand... of all kinds submarines, ships and even rafts...
with nukes.
Or... with all kinds of other weapon...
Molon Labe!
/On one of that steps... USA will be FORCED to react.
All question -- on which.
2. America stands by its' treaty commitments to NATO... until we are no longer part of NATO. We're a "business model". It never pays to deliberately cheat a customer. Word gets out, and then you go out of business.
\\Nukes are simply "Shrodinger Cat" stand-ins. A "tower scene". We can all get what we want from them. Russia gets to believe they made a threat. Europe get's to believe thay'll never use them on them.
Until they do.
Why they gave em to Belorus? ;-P
To throw em... while keeping their plausible De Nile "that's not us".
\\Washington doesn't care if Russia nukes Ukraine OR Ukraine surrenders after. They know that if THEY get nuked, they'll "avenge" the act. World destroyed, no humans left, but hey, Rusha got what it deserved!
BS.
That's... how it SHOULD be. And how it WAS... in times of operation Iron Dome.
But today... current sissy-pussy little ponies... will say "no-no... polution... climate..." and etc.
\\but even that would provoke a nuke strike.
Well... for sure... if that sissy-pussy silly games will continue... instead of REAL deterrence.
Yawn.
\\No, US will uphold NATO commitments and launch nukes on Russia if they attack a member nation with nukes.
Yes???
And what if that'll be from unknown submarine??? Or some "dirty bomb". Or from Belarus.
Or... that'll be some famous tiny nuke smaggled through borders???
Do you think they just playing... when they blowing forges, railways and etc facilities???
Do you think... USA CAN prevent smaggling something so little, through its paper thin borders????
Part of why they in WH reacting so lame... because they KNOW for sure... that they NOT READY for such type of games.
(that's why I say -- you NEED my tech)
\\Nope. See conventional WIII option explained above.
And WHO said... that it will be conventional????
"Generals always preparing for previous battles".
\\It doesn't matter what China does/ doesn't do.
BS.
They are country of Sun Tzu. ;-P
Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected . To know your Enemy, you must become your Enemy.
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\\I told you. USA will uphold its' treaty commitments and country will move to a war footing.
Yeah???
SAME successfully as USA "helping" Ukraine??? %-)
Under dRump to boot.
With demanding paying in advance?
\\Molon Labe!
By that time... you'd have none.
\\2. America stands by its' treaty commitments to NATO...
Too late... too pricy.
\\2. America stands by its' treaty commitments to NATO...
You forgot important thing there -- all kinds of European parties... that dining behind table served by liliPut.
Means... they can flip MUCH before that... appealing to you "unfaithfulness".
Means... you lost this strategy game.
Prematurely.
;-P
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/uar2DEWacHLHPFDdd/mental-masturbation-and-the-intellectual-comfort-zone
;-P
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/xR2Kng6gqY7Nc8Edb/the-just-be-reasonable-predicament
\\Nukes are simply "Shrodinger Cat" stand-ins. A "tower scene". We can all get what we want from them. Russia gets to believe they made a threat. Europe get's to believe thay'll never use them on them.
/Until they do.
Why they gave em to Belorus? ;-P
To throw em... while keeping their plausible De Nile "that's not us".
Possibly. For 'Hope' lives in that "Pandora's box" of possibilities. Hope that the 'Russia not involved' bluff won't get called, or that the 'Belarus aren't crazy enough to use them w/o Moscow's permission', and the allies call out Russia for it/ inclusion in the retaliatory strike.
\\Washington doesn't care if Russia nukes Ukraine OR Ukraine surrenders after. They know that if THEY get nuked, they'll "avenge" the act. World destroyed, no humans left, but hey, Rusha got what it deserved!
/BS.
That's... how it SHOULD be. And how it WAS... in times of operation Iron Dome.
But today... current sissy-pussy little ponies... will say "no-no... polution... climate..." and etc.
Ukraine isn't under the umbrella. And now it likely never will be. Acceptance is Step 12. You need to start at Step 1... admit you are powerless to convince American idiots who think that they already know everything of anything.
Only the torpedoes shock of failure and subsequent realized financial destitution can make us change our minds and policies.
\\but even that would provoke a nuke strike.
/Well... for sure... if that sissy-pussy silly games will continue... instead of REAL deterrence.
Yawn.
Real deterrence is a knife at the throat of an unarmed man, not one equipped with a similar knife in his unrestrained hand. in other words, its' a misnomer for a post-mortem "revenge" weapon.
\\No, US will uphold NATO commitments and launch nukes on Russia if they attack a member nation with nukes.
/Yes???
And what if that'll be from unknown submarine??? Or some "dirty bomb". Or from Belarus.
Or... that'll be some famous tiny nuke smaggled through borders???
Do you think they just playing... when they blowing forges, railways and etc facilities???
Do you think... USA CAN prevent smaggling something so little, through its paper thin borders????
Part of why they in WH reacting so lame... because they KNOW for sure... that they NOT READY for such type of games.
(that's why I say -- you NEED my tech)
It will be a tit-4-tat response. You can take it to the bank.
\\Nope. See conventional WIII option explained above.
/And WHO said... that it will be conventional????
"Generals always preparing for previous battles".
Tit-4-Tat. It's always tit unless someone plays the tat.
\\It doesn't matter what China does/ doesn't do.
/BS.
They are country of Sun Tzu. ;-P
Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected . To know your Enemy, you must become your Enemy.
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And the US doesn't care. Tit-4-tat. Bigger enemy, smaller, makes no difference. Tit-4-tat. Actually, if they are smaller, they'll likely get 'TAT' and not 'tat'. A bonus for displaying insolence.
\\I told you. USA will uphold its' treaty commitments and country will move to a war footing.
/Yeah???
SAME successfully as USA "helping" Ukraine??? %-)
Under dRump to boot.
With demanding paying in advance?
US has no equivalent mutual defense treaty with Ukraine. Just a bunch of vague 'promises' worth only the paper they're printed on. Like that 2008 NATO declaration. It's a paper that never got Constitutionally ratified in the US Senate.
\\Molon Labe!
/By that time... you'd have none.
Do the dead have any problems?
\\2. America stands by its' treaty commitments to NATO...
/Too late... too pricy.
You get what you pay for. And so far, Ukraine has only paid for Hunter's 'expert' gas drilling advice.
\\2. America stands by its' treaty commitments to NATO...
/You forgot important thing there -- all kinds of European parties... that dining behind table served by liliPut.
Means... they can flip MUCH before that... appealing to you "unfaithfulness".
I'd have to read the treaty with all its' secret codiciles to discern what its' provisions for non-performance are. We Americans are nothing if not 'contractual'.
Means... you lost this strategy game.
/Prematurely.
Fail. Fail better.
/;-P
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/uar2DEWacHLHPFDdd/mental-masturbation-and-the-intellectual-comfort-zone
Not if you continually fail, and fail better. It's very anti-fragile.
/;-P
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/xR2Kng6gqY7Nc8Edb/the-just-be-reasonable-predicament
Antigone/ Creon. Which one was the 'reasonable' one?
\\Hope that the 'Russia not involved' bluff won't get called
You have called USSR Caribean Bluff a bluff... so what???
You still was FORCED to make concessions, to mitigate it. ;-P
Not like to learn from your own blunders??/
\\Ukraine isn't under the umbrella.
Though... Budapesht Memo suppose to be much bigger than umbrella. ;-P
Concrete roof.
Which happen to appear to be made of toilet paper. :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))
\\admit you are powerless to convince American idiots who think that they already know everything of anything.
Why bother?
Time tells no lies.
Yawn.
Means... those who don't like to comprehend it with their head... will comprehend with their sore asses. ;-P
Bleh.
\\Only the torpedoes shock of failure and subsequent realized financial destitution can make us change our minds and policies.
Oh... thank you for helping to formulate MY point.
\\Real deterrence is a knife at the throat of an unarmed man, not one equipped with a similar knife in his unrestrained hand.
BS.
\\It will be a tit-4-tat response. You can take it to the bank.
Oh, please.
It was source of laughing stock in USSR times -- cluless CIA agent, trying to sniff something out or devastate something... on soviet grounds. :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
liliPut... will be only pleased. For such a helping hand. To make his claims "we are under attack" real deal things.
What you cab do MORE... then for example that self-induced flood that destroying thousabds homes just now... or forest fires... or polution (radioactive) from military plants.
You such a sissy-pussy little pony.... totally clueless of culture of yakks ;-P
\\Tit-4-Tat. It's always tit unless someone plays the tat.
Yep.
Not USA.
Because "Climate Cha-a-a-ange!!!". (scary voice)
\\And the US doesn't care.
That's the problem...
not MY, though. ;-P
\\US has no equivalent mutual defense treaty with Ukraine.
Budapest Memo. ;-P
\\ It's a paper that never got Constitutionally ratified in the US Senate.
There's something more important then written guaranties.
And that... not MY words -- they YOURS.
""
We're a "business model". It never pays to deliberately cheat a customer. Word gets out, and then you go out of business.
""
\\Do the dead have any problems?
Yeah... dances on their graves -- disturb em, greatly. They say...
\\\You get what you pay for. And so far, Ukraine has only paid for Hunter's 'expert' gas drilling advice.
Whatever... ;-P you are creditors. :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))
\\Antigone/ Creon. Which one was the 'reasonable' one?
Well... I see it directly applicable.
In that... or this thread.
Where you trying to ask Ukraine "reasonable".
Though, rationally speaking -- I am NOT Ukraine. Not a country, just a person. ;-P
\\Hope that the 'Russia not involved' bluff won't get called
/You have called USSR Caribean Bluff a bluff... so what???
You still was FORCED to make concessions, to mitigate it. ;-P
Not like to learn from your own blunders??/
Like Bay of Pigs? ;)
\\Ukraine isn't under the umbrella.
/Though... Budapesht Memo suppose to be much bigger than umbrella. ;-P
Concrete roof.
Which happen to appear to be made of toilet paper. :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Did that memo get signed in the US Senate?
The Budapest Memorandum was negotiated at political level, but it is not entirely clear whether the instrument is devoid entirely of legal provisions. It refers to assurances, but unlike guarantees, it does not impose a legal obligation of military assistance on its parties.[2][53] According to Stephen MacFarlane, a professor of international relations, "It gives signatories justification if they take action, but it does not force anyone to act in Ukraine."[52] In the US, neither the George H. W. Bush administration nor the Clinton administration was prepared to give a military commitment to Ukraine, and they did not believe the US Senate would ratify an international treaty and so the memorandum was adopted in more limited terms.[53] The memorandum has a requirement of consultation among the parties "in the event a situation arises that raises a question concerning the ... commitments" set out in the memorandum.[54] Whether or not the memorandum sets out legal obligations, the difficulties that Ukraine has encountered since early 2014 may cast doubt on the credibility of future security assurances that are offered in exchange for nonproliferation commitments.[55] Regardless, the United States publicly maintains that "the Memorandum is not legally binding", calling it a "political commitment".
Looks like Ukraine bought a pig in a poke. Kinda like that "NATO will not expand eastward" after Germany reunified "agreement" with Putin/ Russia. You really should perform due diligence and get signatures on all these things from the 'actually responsible' parties. Jes sayin'...
\\admit you are powerless to convince American idiots who think that they already know everything of anything.
/Why bother?
Time tells no lies.
Yawn.
Means... those who don't like to comprehend it with their head... will comprehend with their sore asses. ;-P
Bleh.
Torpedoes shock. THAT's IT!
\\Only the torpedoes shock of failure and subsequent realized financial destitution can make us change our minds and policies.
/Oh... thank you for helping to formulate MY point.
desho!
\\Real deterrence is a knife at the throat of an unarmed man, not one equipped with a similar knife in his unrestrained hand.
/BS.
Fine. Consider Russia "deterred" then.
\\It will be a tit-4-tat response. You can take it to the bank.
/Oh, please.
It was source of laughing stock in USSR times -- cluless CIA agent, trying to sniff something out or devastate something... on soviet grounds. :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
liliPut... will be only pleased. For such a helping hand. To make his claims "we are under attack" real deal things.
What you cab do MORE... then for example that self-induced flood that destroying thousabds homes just now... or forest fires... or polution (radioactive) from military plants.
You such a sissy-pussy little pony.... totally clueless of culture of yakks ;-P
That's because we're a culture of Nyuks!
\\Tit-4-Tat. It's always tit unless someone plays the tat.
/Yep.
Not USA.
Because "Climate Cha-a-a-ange!!!". (scary voice)
Somebody sell me an offset!
\\And the US doesn't care.
/That's the problem...
not MY, though. ;-P
Hope you like eating lots of Borscht. I'm not a fan, myself. More of a potato eater. Freedom fries. ;)
\\US has no equivalent mutual defense treaty with Ukraine.
/Budapest Memo. ;-P
refer to Wiki copy/paste above.
\\ It's a paper that never got Constitutionally ratified in the US Senate.
/There's something more important then written guaranties.
And that... not MY words -- they YOURS.
I didn't make them, and I doubt you'll be a customer of Western hardare for quite a while after this.
""
We're a "business model". It never pays to deliberately cheat a customer. Word gets out, and then you go out of business.
""
Like I said above... and I thought I'd already announced our upcoming 2025 "going out of the globalism business" sale.
\\Do the dead have any problems?
/Yeah... dances on their graves -- disturb em, greatly. They say...
Das Totentanz! You need to get buried in a designer shroud. :)
\\\You get what you pay for. And so far, Ukraine has only paid for Hunter's 'expert' gas drilling advice.
/Whatever... ;-P you are creditors. :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))
$30t in debt??? And that doesn't include all the baked-in promises.
\\Antigone/ Creon. Which one was the 'reasonable' one?
/Well... I see it directly applicable.
In that... or this thread.
Where you trying to ask Ukraine "reasonable".
Though, rationally speaking -- I am NOT Ukraine. Not a country, just a person. ;-P
...and as such, you (Ukraine) should have read the "fine print" on that NATO declaration. It's called "due dilligence'.
...or did you just "click thru" them all, again?
\\Like Bay of Pigs? ;)
For at least... you remember that name.
Yawn.
\\Did that memo get signed in the US Senate?
Yeah... "honest word" of Great and Noble America... is like that toilet paper...
I get it, I do.
\\Looks like Ukraine bought a pig in a poke.
From mafia crooks, yeah.
\\Kinda like that "NATO will not expand eastward" after Germany reunified "agreement" with Putin/ Russia.
Well... THAT "commitment" not fixed on toilet paper EVEN. :-)))))))))))))))))
\\You really should perform due diligence and get signatures on all these things from the 'actually responsible' parties. Jes sayin'...
BS.
Treaties with RFia was thoroughly signed and ratified.
So what????
\\Torpedoes shock. THAT's IT!
Yeah.
Pearl Harbor 2.0.
\\Fine. Consider Russia "deterred" then.
Same as Japan... pre-Pearl Harbor? ;-P
\\I didn't make them, and I doubt you'll be a customer of Western hardare for quite a while after this.
Whatever.
We all in same boat... at least for now.
\\$30t in debt??? And that doesn't include all the baked-in promises.
That is debts that you can flounder out.
Your "commitments" before Ukraine -- not.
We all, I mean Europe, USA and Ukraine... are in one and the same boat, now.
\\...and as such, you (Ukraine) should have read the "fine print" on that NATO declaration. It's called "due dilligence'.
Whatever.
Know what they using for any fine paper in a trenches? ;-)
\\...or did you just "click thru" them all, again?
Explain it to Zelensky, would ya?
Because... "Ukraine it's me" is about him, above anybody else. Here and Now.
But... your moronic Bi-den... still hesitate to straight him up and show his place... because "that would be UNdemocratic and NON-diplomatic". ;-P
And liliPut... so young and kicking. ;-P
Whozzat? ;-P
\\Did that memo get signed in the US Senate?
/Yeah... "honest word" of Great and Noble America... is like that toilet paper...
I get it, I do.
America didn't make the promise. THAT would have been signed in the Senate and honoured. You chose to trust in a "politician's word" instead, with predictable results...
\\Looks like Ukraine bought a pig in a poke.
/From mafia crooks, yeah.
No doubt. Biden, McCain, and Graham are only in it for the kick-backs.
\\Kinda like that "NATO will not expand eastward" after Germany reunified "agreement" with Putin/ Russia.
/Well... THAT "commitment" not fixed on toilet paper EVEN. :-)))))))))))))))))
See, the quality of the paper does matter! Next time, be sure to use treaty "parchment".
\\You really should perform due diligence and get signatures on all these things from the 'actually responsible' parties. Jes sayin'...
/BS.
Treaties with RFia was thoroughly signed and ratified.
So what????
Are the members of the Russian Duma businessmen?
\\Torpedoes shock. THAT's IT!
/Yeah.
Pearl Harbor 2.0.
That's certainly one form...
\\Fine. Consider Russia "deterred" then.
/Same as Japan... pre-Pearl Harbor? ;-P
Was their hands empty (no katana)? Cuz like I said, THAT is the only real "deterrent".
\\I didn't make them, and I doubt you'll be a customer of Western hardare for quite a while after this.
/Whatever.
We all in same boat... at least for now.
No, you're in a boat. I'm in a yacht thousands of miles away...
\\$30t in debt??? And that doesn't include all the baked-in promises.
/That is debts that you can flounder out.
Your "commitments" before Ukraine -- not.
We all, I mean Europe, USA and Ukraine... are in one and the same boat, now.
You'd like to think. But I can assure you, America and Europe and Ukraine are in different boats entirely. Just ask the Israeli's.
\\...and as such, you (Ukraine) should have read the "fine print" on that NATO declaration. It's called "due dilligence'.
/Whatever.
Know what they using for any fine paper in a trenches? ;-)
Leaves?
\\...or did you just "click thru" them all, again?
/Explain it to Zelensky, would ya?
Because... "Ukraine it's me" is about him, above anybody else. Here and Now.
But... your moronic Bi-den... still hesitate to straight him up and show his place... because "that would be UNdemocratic and NON-diplomatic". ;-P
Please. Biden is a senile old grandpa. He couldn't show Zelensky how to get to the Oval Office from the WH Residence. The bureacrats in the USIC are running the war now, and you are all just "assetts" to be motivated/ manipulated (RICE). And they don't care about the assetts. They only care about "operational success" (weaken Russia).
ps - from your links... longing for the "good old days" (Breszhnev)? I loved his "present" to America (the Ukraine war)
Jack F. Matlock, Jr., "The Christmas Gift that Keeps Giving" (February 2024)
On December 24, 1989, Soviet Deputy Foreign Minister Ivan Aboimov informed me on behalf of the Soviet government, ‘We have given the Brezhnev Doctrine to you with our compliments. Consider it a Christmas gift.”
Now, some thirty-four years later, I should explain what the Brezhnev Doctrine was, the circumstances under which the gift was conveyed, and why I believe that it was a gift that has infused US foreign policy to this very day.
The Brezhnev Doctrine
The Brezhnev Doctrine alleged that “socialist” (communist-dominated) countries had the right and duty to intervene in any country where a “socialist” government had been threatened. The term developed after the Soviet Union invaded Hungary in 1956 and Czechoslovakia in 1968. The underlying rationale was that “socialism” was an inevitable stage in human development and that, if it was threatened in a given country, it was the duty of other “socialist” states to intervene to preserve it. Karl Marx had predicted that the “proletariat” would rebel against the ruling “bourgeoisie” and by dictatorship would produce a socialist society that would evolve from socialism (to each according to his contribution) to communism (to each according to his need). Although the “socialist” states had not reached the goal of communism, they were led by the Soviet Union ruled by a party whose name evoked the ultimate goal: the Communist Party of the Soviet Union....
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\\America didn't make the promise.
That... doesn't matter.
Everybody know everything. ;-P
"Plausible De Nile" works only INSIDE same culture. As rule of "omerta". Collective unconscious, so to say.
But... it neither unknown, even though not told aloud inside mother-culture. Nor it unknown to everybody who are outsider. ;-P
\\ You chose to trust in a "politician's word" instead, with predictable results...
You mean mafia crooks with nukes from both side???
\\Are the members of the Russian Duma businessmen?
Only their spouses and children. All millionaires. As one. :-)))))
\\No, you're in a boat. I'm in a yacht thousands of miles away...
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\\You'd like to think. But I can assure you, America and Europe and Ukraine are in different boats entirely. Just ask the Israeli's.
And they saying all as one... just because. Because of what???
Ah... but you dunno trivia, again.
Like what politicians of Europe saying.
\\They only care about "operational success" (weaken Russia).
While their results -- it only strengthening. ;-P
Something do not add ups.
But you cannot see it. Because Matrix have you, Neo. ;-P
\\ I loved his "present" to America (the Ukraine war)
Yep.
Surge of high-grade propaganda, directly into vein.
Junky pleasures. Ye-e-e-es!!!!
\\The Brezhnev Doctrine alleged that “socialist” (communist-dominated) countries had the right and duty to intervene in any country where a “socialist” government had been threatened.
It was NOT apparent???
From times of post-ww2????
Like Soviet Occupation Zone of Berlin. Like all that countries that became "socialistic", suddenlt... just because USSR troops was there.
Like North Korea.
Like North Vietnam.
DO. YOU. REALLY. want to reassure me here???
That your top brass of intelligence, diplomacy and politics... was so incredibly incredulously STUPID... that that "Brezhnev Doctrine" became some f***g "screed from flaming bush" REVELATION to em??? :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
\\The underlying rationale was that “socialism” was an inevitable stage in human development
Yep.
From times of Marx and Engels.
Means... CENTURY BEFORE that.
But.
Somehow.
USA "intellectuals" and "intelligence"... came to understand it ONLY "On December 24, 1989, Soviet Deputy Foreign Minister Ivan Aboimov informed me..."
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\\America didn't make the promise.
/That... doesn't matter.
Everybody know everything. ;-P
"Plausible De Nile" works only INSIDE same culture. As rule of "omerta". Collective unconscious, so to say.
But... it neither unknown, even though not told aloud inside mother-culture. Nor it unknown to everybody who are outsider. ;-P
I sit on the inside edge and can state with confidence, "There is no promise".
\\ You chose to trust in a "politician's word" instead, with predictable results...
/You mean mafia crooks with nukes from both side???
Exactly.
\\Are the members of the Russian Duma businessmen?
/Only their spouses and children. All millionaires. As one. :-)))))
We've begun to match them here. just look at Hunter, or Mark Pelosi, or John Kerry's son.
\\No, you're in a boat. I'm in a yacht thousands of miles away...
/:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
...rhetorically speaking. ;)
\\You'd like to think. But I can assure you, America and Europe and Ukraine are in different boats entirely. Just ask the Israeli's.
/And they saying all as one... just because. Because of what???
Ah... but you dunno trivia, again.
Like what politicians of Europe saying.
I don't? They ALL want us gone from NATO, but preferably with a neutered Russia. Sorry, but we won't be neutering anyone before we go. Russia is Europe's problem now.
\\They only care about "operational success" (weaken Russia).
/While their results -- it only strengthening. ;-P
Something do not add ups.
But you cannot see it. Because Matrix have you, Neo. ;-P
Probably. But then, I'm only on the edge of the inside, not the middle.
\\ I loved his "present" to America (the Ukraine war)
/Yep.
Surge of high-grade propaganda, directly into vein.
Junky pleasures. Ye-e-e-es!!!!
Sure has the Deep State flying high!
\\The Brezhnev Doctrine alleged that “socialist” (communist-dominated) countries had the right and duty to intervene in any country where a “socialist” government had been threatened.
/It was NOT apparent???
From times of post-ww2????
Like Soviet Occupation Zone of Berlin. Like all that countries that became "socialistic", suddenlt... just because USSR troops was there.
Like North Korea.
Like North Vietnam.
DO. YOU. REALLY. want to reassure me here???
That your top brass of intelligence, diplomacy and politics... was so incredibly incredulously STUPID... that that "Brezhnev Doctrine" became some f***g "screed from flaming bush" REVELATION to em??? :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
How often did we "roll tanks" into European capitols? Jes sayin'...
\\The underlying rationale was that “socialism” was an inevitable stage in human development
/Yep.
From times of Marx and Engels.
Means... CENTURY BEFORE that.
But.
Somehow.
USA "intellectuals" and "intelligence"... came to understand it ONLY "On December 24, 1989, Soviet Deputy Foreign Minister Ivan Aboimov informed me..."
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No, we came to understand it better enforcing the Monroe Doctrine as part of George Kennan's "Containment" strategy. After '89, we became the ones actively undermining "Socialist" governments (ala Kyiv) instead of visa versa (Soviets undermining Democratic ones).
aka - Turning the world's governments INTO democracies (Kabul/Baghdad).
Republicans - ;P
Democrats - ;P
and one ring to rule them all...
UniParty - ;P
Globalism run-amuck.
Ronald Reagan and his former CIA director GHW Bush had a vision... that took off in '89, and captured the US Congress (SSCI/ USIC) by 2001 9/11.
\\I sit on the inside edge and can state with confidence, "There is no promise".
Whatever.
Friend in need, friend indeed. ;-P
\\\\ You chose to trust in a "politician's word" instead, with predictable results...
/You mean mafia crooks with nukes from both side???
\\Exactly.
Means. "Deal which one cannot decline". ;-P
And anyway... what would use Ukraine have... for ICBMs????
Pointed to USA to boot. ;-P
Eeeeh... cannot come up with any good use. ;-)
Maybe you can suggest? ;-) Something.
\\We've begun to match them here. just look at Hunter, or Mark Pelosi, or John Kerry's son.
Plausible De Nile. ;-P
\\\\No, you're in a boat. I'm in a yacht thousands of miles away...
/:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
\\...rhetorically speaking. ;)
Paradoxally.
Countries in one boat. Why their inhabitants not. ;-P
\\I don't? They ALL want us gone from NATO, but preferably with a neutered Russia. Sorry, but we won't be neutering anyone before we go. Russia is Europe's problem now.
While their ICBMs pointed to North America?
Yawn.
Uvalde Syndrome?
That someone need to come and save fully-armed fully-equipped police???
Maybe some vigilante.
Naaaah.
\\How often did we "roll tanks" into European capitols? Jes sayin'...
Donkeys loaded with gold -- opened more cities than seiging armies. ;-P
\\No, we came to understand it better enforcing the Monroe Doctrine as part of George Kennan's "Containment" strategy. After '89, we became the ones actively undermining "Socialist" governments (ala Kyiv) instead of visa versa (Soviets undermining Democratic ones).
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\\aka - Turning the world's governments INTO democracies (Kabul/Baghdad).
Pft!
And what is democracy?
Have you some practical definition, for at least? ;-)
\\I sit on the inside edge and can state with confidence, "There is no promise".
Whatever.
Friend in need, friend indeed. ;-P
Not a fan of Plato's "Lysias" (On Friendship). Too bad.
\\\\ You chose to trust in a "politician's word" instead, with predictable results...
/You mean mafia crooks with nukes from both side???
\\Exactly.
Means. "Deal which one cannot decline". ;-P
And anyway... what would use Ukraine have... for ICBMs????
Pointed to USA to boot. ;-P
Eeeeh... cannot come up with any good use. ;-)
Maybe you can suggest? ;-) Something.
Crawl into bed with dogs, you wake up with fleas. Leverage is leverage. It's purpose isn't to be useful in the present. Like truth of that Hunter Biden deal.
\\We've begun to match them here. just look at Hunter, or Mark Pelosi, or John Kerry's son.
/Plausible De Nile. ;-P
... I remeber when Nancy's father (and then brother) were Mayor of Baltimore? Who got investigated for taking payoffs? Nancy's Mom... A family that steals together, deal's together.
\\\\No, you're in a boat. I'm in a yacht thousands of miles away...
/:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
\\...rhetorically speaking. ;)
/Paradoxally.
Countries in one boat. Why their inhabitants not. ;-P
The limit defines the form (Plato). Only after do you look for the effluences of "colour" (or character).
\\I don't? They ALL want us gone from NATO, but preferably with a neutered Russia. Sorry, but we won't be neutering anyone before we go. Russia is Europe's problem now.
/While their ICBMs pointed to North America?
Yawn.
Uvalde Syndrome?
That someone need to come and save fully-armed fully-equipped police???
Maybe some vigilante.
Naaaah.
Russia isn't targetting Europe with them? Sounds like an "opportunity" for a new Sheriff to step up.
\\How often did we "roll tanks" into European capitols? Jes sayin'...
/Donkeys loaded with gold -- opened more cities than seiging armies. ;-P
No doubt. RICE's 'R'.
\\aka - Turning the world's governments INTO democracies (Kabul/Baghdad).
/Pft!
And what is democracy?
Have you some practical definition, for at least? ;-)
Depends upon the democracy (direct or representative). Ever read Emerson's "Representative Men")? As for me, I prefer the Athenian version (election by Lot and Deme rotation). Or Swiss (country/canon/community). See what "neutrality" can get you? I know, almost looks "Leninesque...
An Idealized version...
Perhaps a more practical vision. Although his old age was "telling" ;)
btw - How are your <a href='https://study.com/academy/lesson/william-tell-story-legend-music-composer.html">archery</a> skills?
Oooops link.
\\... I remeber when Nancy's father (and then brother) were Mayor of Baltimore? Who got investigated for taking payoffs? Nancy's Mom... A family that steals together, deal's together.
Well... you know the coda...
\\The limit defines the form (Plato). Only after do you look for the effluences of "colour" (or character).
???
Well... I was referring to that strange reasons... that made USA and USSR allies in ww2. ;-P
Oil and water. Ice and fire. Whatever.
\\Russia isn't targetting Europe with them? Sounds like an "opportunity" for a new Sheriff to step up.
There is NO United States of Europe. ;-P
So... who'll be that "new Sheriff", ahh???
\\Depends upon the democracy (direct or representative).
And where did you see direct one? ;-)
\\ Ever read Emerson's "Representative Men")?
And how do you think? ;-)
\\As for me, I prefer the Athenian version (election by Lot and Deme rotation).
Possible for one city...
No, small town. Or even village.
Only.
Yawn.
Be damn that Cybernetics. ;-P
\\Or Swiss (country/canon/community).
Geographically defined.
Yawn.
\\ "Leninesque...
Whatever you mean.
It surely have NO relation with anything that really happened. ;-P
\\The limit defines the form (Plato). Only after do you look for the effluences of "colour" (or character).
/???
Well... I was referring to that strange reasons... that made USA and USSR allies in ww2. ;-P
Oil and water. Ice and fire. Whatever.
:P
...Enemy of my enemy...
\\Russia isn't targetting Europe with them? Sounds like an "opportunity" for a new Sheriff to step up.
/There is NO United States of Europe. ;-P
So... who'll be that "new Sheriff", ahh???
Please. DiEM25. How long will your "Continental Congress" twiddle their thumbs before joining together? Are you afraid of a Pan-European State suffocating its' individual States? Ours didn't until the US Civil War 1861. That's almost a hundred years to deal with the threat.
\\Depends upon the democracy (direct or representative).
/And where did you see direct one? ;-)
Never. They offer no "minority" protections (and I mean "ideological, not racial, minorities).
\\ Ever read Emerson's "Representative Men")?
/And how do you think? ;-)
I like the idea, but more the Athenian (or Roman Republic) system for selecting them, not ours.
\\As for me, I prefer the Athenian version (election by Lot and Deme rotation).
/Possible for one city...
No, small town. Or even village.
Only.
Yawn.
Be damn that Cybernetics. ;-P
You lack imagination. Read "The Laws" (Plato)
\\Or Swiss (country/canon/community).
/Geographically defined.
Yawn.
Better. 3 "citizenships". A TriSolarian solution with "movable" Canton boundaries.
\\ "Leninesque...
/Whatever you mean.
It surely have NO relation with anything that really happened. ;-P
Much like our "history" books, then. :)
\\...Enemy of my enemy...
THAT'S IT.
While you battling against it... I dunno.
\\Please. DiEM25. How long will your "Continental Congress" twiddle their thumbs before joining together? Are you afraid of a Pan-European State suffocating its' individual States? Ours didn't until the US Civil War 1861. That's almost a hundred years to deal with the threat.
You asking me something I totally not equipped to even start answering.
But... you are free to fly to Europe... and start asking such questions some passerby laymen. ;-P
\\I like the idea, but more the Athenian (or Roman Republic) system for selecting them, not ours.
Have you POWER to impose it?
That's it.
\\You lack imagination. Read "The Laws" (Plato)
Even if I do... I know sci-fi. ;-P
Like that same Borgs. ;-)
\\Much like our "history" books, then. :)
Yet more reason to not read your history books. ;-P
One of a bunch ;-P
Is it the same man to you? ;-P
\\...Enemy of my enemy...
/THAT'S IT.
While you battling against it... I dunno.
Cuz Russia isn't my enemy. It's yours.
\\Please. DiEM25. How long will your "Continental Congress" twiddle their thumbs before joining together? Are you afraid of a Pan-European State suffocating its' individual States? Ours didn't until the US Civil War 1861. That's almost a hundred years to deal with the threat.
/You asking me something I totally not equipped to even start answering.
But... you are free to fly to Europe... and start asking such questions some passerby laymen. ;-P
Don't need to. I get reports from YouTube.
\\I like the idea, but more the Athenian (or Roman Republic) system for selecting them, not ours.
/Have you POWER to impose it?
That's it.
Have you?
\\You lack imagination. Read "The Laws" (Plato)
/Even if I do... I know sci-fi. ;-P
Like that same Borgs. ;-)
Then why read it?
\\Much like our "history" books, then. :)
/Yet more reason to not read your history books. ;-P
We can't all be eyewitnesses to events. It's why I still read newspapers (history unanalized and incomplete, full of bias')
/One of a bunch ;-P
Is it the same man to you? ;-P
Almost.
\\Cuz Russia isn't my enemy. It's yours.
Yeah. And ICBMs they point at USA -- they all imaginary.
That is denial wide as De Nile... in time of its floods. %-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Well... you do not speak Russian, and do not read/listen/watch their media and etc.
Where just waterfalls of "we need to destroy USA"... especially in days like today.
Well...
Pearl Harbor 2.0 needed.
Not my miserly anaonmous from far-far-away commenter.
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\\Don't need to. I get reports from YouTube.
Pft!
\\\\I like the idea, but more the Athenian (or Roman Republic) system for selecting them, not ours.
/Have you POWER to impose it?
That's it.
\\Have you?
YOU stated such goals -- not me.
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\\\\You lack imagination. Read "The Laws" (Plato)
/Even if I do... I know sci-fi. ;-P
Like that same Borgs. ;-)
\\Then why read it?
I referred to that... that sci-fi proposing LOTS of different social systems and ways of organization of people, or how to change it.
One little problem -- they not real.
"in theory -- theory and practice is the same"(tm)
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\\We can't all be eyewitnesses to events. It's why I still read newspapers (history unanalized and incomplete, full of bias')
Still... there is: remains, long-lasting consequences, regular forces/laws.
Means... we cannot imagine Perfect Chaos. And it is impossible to lie... without telling some Truth. ;-P
\\/One of a bunch ;-P
Is it the same man to you? ;-P
\\Almost.
YAP!
That's what doublers are for. ;-P
\\Cuz Russia isn't my enemy. It's yours.
/Yeah. And ICBMs they point at USA -- they all imaginary.
That is denial wide as De Nile... in time of its floods. %-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Well... you do not speak Russian, and do not read/listen/watch their media and etc.
Where just waterfalls of "we need to destroy USA"... especially in days like today.
Well...
Pearl Harbor 2.0 needed.
Not my miserly anaonmous from far-far-away commenter.
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They've been pointed at me my whole life now. I should be worried now? LOL!
\\Don't need to. I get reports from YouTube.
/Pft!
I know, you drink your BS from the faucet.
\\\\I like the idea, but more the Athenian (or Roman Republic) system for selecting them, not ours.
/Have you POWER to impose it?
That's it.
\\Have you?
YOU stated such goals -- not me.
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I stated a preference, not a goal.
\\\\You lack imagination. Read "The Laws" (Plato)
/Even if I do... I know sci-fi. ;-P
Like that same Borgs. ;-)
\\Then why read it?
/I referred to that... that sci-fi proposing LOTS of different social systems and ways of organization of people, or how to change it.
One little problem -- they not real.
"in theory -- theory and practice is the same"(tm)
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...and no one's ever tried Lindy's Platonic or Roman models? Who knew? The American system came down on tablets from Heaven...
\\We can't all be eyewitnesses to events. It's why I still read newspapers (history unanalized and incomplete, full of bias')
/Still... there is: remains, long-lasting consequences, regular forces/laws.
Means... we cannot imagine Perfect Chaos. And it is impossible to lie... without telling some Truth. ;-P
When it comes to the "Humanities" there are very few regular forces/ laws that can't be meddled with.
\\/One of a bunch ;-P
Is it the same man to you? ;-P
\\Almost.
/YAP!
That's what doublers are for. ;-P
Then it's "Operational Success" for the NKVD boys! HU-rahhhh!
\\They've been pointed at me my whole life now. I should be worried now? LOL!
What that dumb heads in Pentagon do, then???
What that trillions of $ wasted for???
If there is NO threats.
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Also... you do not have insurance? because for people to... break a leg for example, that's some rumor??? That puny doctors just want to be payed for nothing???
\\\\Don't need to. I get reports from YouTube.
/Pft!
\\I know, you drink your BS from the faucet.
Said one who talk "everything is... Hyper-Realty".
So what -- some flick from YouTube... served to you by algorithm -- is NOT Hyper-Reality, suddenly? ;-)
\\I stated a preference, not a goal.
Whatever.
Words -- just labels.
\\...and no one's ever tried Lindy's Platonic or Roman models? Who knew? The American system came down on tablets from Heaven...
And you know it... because you saw a flick on YouTube... videos from time of Plato and Romans??? ;-)
\\When it comes to the "Humanities" there are very few regular forces/ laws that can't be meddled with.
YAP!
That's what "those who know better" tout you.
They was doing it in Soviet Union too.
"Don't think for yourself! Don't try to collect your own data! Never-never try to come up with your own conclusion!!!... only LISTEN what WE have to say".
\\Then it's "Operational Success" for the NKVD boys! HU-rahhhh!
Royal Minutemen and NKVD boys dancing Can Can together. ;-P
NKVD was disbanded after ww2.
Yet one gullible American... that believed in love from Russian (major) Natasha. ;-P
\\They've been pointed at me my whole life now. I should be worried now? LOL!
/What that dumb heads in Pentagon do, then???
What that trillions of $ wasted for???
If there is NO threats.
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There aren't. There's only "revenge" once you've opened Shrodingers nuclear pet-carrier.
Also... you do not have insurance? because for people to... break a leg for example, that's some rumor??? That puny doctors just want to be payed for nothing???
They don't say "MacBeth" in the theatre, either. Bad luck.
\\\\Don't need to. I get reports from YouTube.
/Pft!
\\I know, you drink your BS from the faucet.
/Said one who talk "everything is... Hyper-Realty".
So what -- some flick from YouTube... served to you by algorithm -- is NOT Hyper-Reality, suddenly? ;-)
You're not hyper-real? Some 'tech' guy computer programmer typing on his keyboard? Who knew? You could be one of the FBI's latest 'bots for all I know.
\\I stated a preference, not a goal.
/Whatever.
Words -- just labels.
Only some people can use them more adeptly than others. Especially if not ESL.
\\...and no one's ever tried Lindy's Platonic or Roman models? Who knew? The American system came down on tablets from Heaven...
/And you know it... because you saw a flick on YouTube... videos from time of Plato and Romans??? ;-)
Nope, got it in textual form from Project Gutenberg (and read it before ChatGTP learned to alter it - MiniTru).
\\When it comes to the "Humanities" there are very few regular forces/ laws that can't be meddled with.
/YAP!
That's what "those who know better" tout you.
They was doing it in Soviet Union too.
"Don't think for yourself! Don't try to collect your own data! Never-never try to come up with your own conclusion!!!... only LISTEN what WE have to say".
...endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights (listed by Madison in his "Memorial & Remonstrance"). Like your "religion" (secular ethics or otherwise) :)
\\Then it's "Operational Success" for the NKVD boys! HU-rahhhh!
Royal Minutemen and NKVD boys dancing Can Can together. ;-P
I'm sure you both do it every night before bed.
/NKVD was disbanded after ww2.
Yap. That was the rumour.
Yet one gullible American... that believed in love from Russian (major) Natasha. ;-P
She does kinda look like Tina Fey...
Meanwhile, back @ the Kremlin...
\\There aren't. There's only "revenge" once you've opened Shrodingers nuclear pet-carrier.
There's many more then nuclear ways of how to undermine USA.
Like... with making USAians think that they are already defeated. ;-P
Facilitating civil war.
Disjoining em with their allies.
And etc...
Well, anyway... you are not first dish on the plate.
You are -- dessert. ;-P
\\They don't say "MacBeth" in the theatre, either. Bad luck.
????
My missive was cristal clear -- people DO PAY... for some bad things to NOT happen.
What your response is for -- beat me, I'm dunno.
\\You're not hyper-real? Some 'tech' guy computer programmer typing on his keyboard? Who knew? You could be one of the FBI's latest 'bots for all I know.
Whatever.
Neo that took blue pill. :-))))))))))))))
\\Only some people can use them more adeptly than others. Especially if not ESL.
Words... are to heard and read.
So... if that people who'd listen and read em... still DUNNO what they say...
Well, Third Type of Geniuses... that "more adept" are. ;-P
\\Nope, got it in textual form from Project Gutenberg (and read it before ChatGTP learned to alter it - MiniTru).
Yap.
some ancient pupl fiction. ;-P
\\...endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights (listed by Madison in his "Memorial & Remonstrance"). Like your "religion" (secular ethics or otherwise) :)
Dunno... how it *relates*?????
\\/NKVD was disbanded after ww2.
\\Yap. That was the rumour.
Yap.
Because they was renamed. Into KGB.
And later, into FSB.
But... is Teseus ship... is the same ship????
That NKVD was "protecting workers and peasants from imperialists"...
and current FSB protecting newly appeared imperialists... from workers and peasants possible revolt.
And... surprise-surprise, NOT... doing it same way, as it was in Germany... before ww2.
Yawn.
\\Meanwhile, back @ the Kremlin...
So what???
There was Chaplin's Dictator.
Maybe that made Hitler sorrowful and removed need to fight with him???
Yawn.
Compare with this. ;-P
Or what??? Not able to read by faces??? Body language?
Or... some *preactical* psychology -- not yours?
Only some "theoretical" mumbo-jumbo...
Compare with this. ;-P
Or what??? Not able to read by faces??? Body language?
Or... some *preactical* psychology -- not yours?
Only some "theoretical" mumbo-jumbo...
\\There aren't. There's only "revenge" once you've opened Shrodingers nuclear pet-carrier.
/There's many more then nuclear ways of how to undermine USA.
Like... with making USAians think that they are already defeated. ;-P
Facilitating civil war.
Disjoining em with their allies.
And etc...
Well, anyway... you are not first dish on the plate.
You are -- dessert. ;-P
Can we be pie? I like pie.
\\They don't say "MacBeth" in the theatre, either. Bad luck.
????
My missive was cristal clear -- people DO PAY... for some bad things to NOT happen.
What your response is for -- beat me, I'm dunno.
There's a saying in the theatre, to wish one "good luck" one's says "break a leg" to the one one wishes it for.
\\You're not hyper-real? Some 'tech' guy computer programmer typing on his keyboard? Who knew? You could be one of the FBI's latest 'bots for all I know.
/Whatever.
Neo that took blue pill. :-))))))))))))))
Ahhh, the LAST movie. Good choice. Analyst replaces Architect. That's me alright.
\\Only some people can use them more adeptly than others. Especially if not ESL.
/Words... are to heard and read.
So... if that people who'd listen and read em... still DUNNO what they say...
Well, Third Type of Geniuses... that "more adept" are. ;-P
Words are commands to be given by Masters and received and followed by slaves. Which are you? Don't worry, if you don't follow commands properly, your Master will appraise you of your mistake with a good beating. You'll learn.
\\Nope, got it in textual form from Project Gutenberg (and read it before ChatGTP learned to alter it - MiniTru).
/Yap.
some ancient pupl fiction. ;-P
Beats reading yellow journalism.
\\...endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights (listed by Madison in his "Memorial & Remonstrance"). Like your "religion" (secular ethics or otherwise) :)
/Dunno... how it *relates*?????
iow - You cannot alienate the thoughts in another person's head. You can only "lead him to water"... not "make him drink".
\\/NKVD was disbanded after ww2.
\\Yap. That was the rumour.
/Yap.
Because they was renamed. Into KGB.
And later, into FSB.
But... is Teseus ship... is the same ship????
That NKVD was "protecting workers and peasants from imperialists"...
and current FSB protecting newly appeared imperialists... from workers and peasants possible revolt.
And... surprise-surprise, NOT... doing it same way, as it was in Germany... before ww2.
Yawn.
Yeah, we call it "rebranding"... like what you're trying to do for Azov Battalion. But that kind of rebranding takes some really good Ad Men. Not slogans like "We're not Nazis". More like "We're bad-ass Russian killers who love cats and small children".
\\Meanwhile, back @ the Kremlin...
/So what???
There was Chaplin's Dictator.
Maybe that made Hitler sorrowful and removed need to fight with him???
Yawn.
(¿Compreende, señora? Pero no compreende)
(Sin, bien, mama, do you understand that? No)
(Well, uh, like, I can understand how you can't)
('Cause I've been, uh, you know)
(Paris, Beirut, you know)
(I mean Iraq, Iran, Eurasia, you know)
(I speak very, very, hm, fluent Spanish)
(Ah, todo está bien chévere, you understand that?
(Chévere?)
(Chevere, bien chevere, is that right, mama?)
/Compare with this. ;-P
Or what??? Not able to read by faces??? Body language?
Or... some *preactical* psychology -- not yours?
Only some "theoretical" mumbo-jumbo...
Theory becomes practice and practice, theory. It's all chevere. ;)
\\Can we be pie? I like pie.
Your wish is my command.
Viola! You are pie! ;-P
\\Words are commands to be given by Masters and received and followed by slaves. Which are you? Don't worry, if you don't follow commands properly, your Master will appraise you of your mistake with a good beating. You'll learn.
:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))00
\\Beats reading yellow journalism.
You think there was no yellow journalism in that times? ;-P
\\iow - You cannot alienate the thoughts in another person's head. You can only "lead him to water"... not "make him drink".
There is modeling situations. Like here "lead him to water".
And I perfectly understand what you mean.
I hope my ideas (like about space probes to other stars) was easy to follow.
You ideas... cannot say so. :-(
But, maybe I just too dumb for that...
\\Yeah, we call it "rebranding"...
Not refurbishing? ;-P
Like in taxidermy.
To make "wolfs wearing sheeps clothes". ;-)
\\like what you're trying to do for Azov Battalion.
Naaah.
That's just your brand NAZIS... became meaning practicaly ANYTHING.
Like... "they have no ice-cream I like in cafeteria... damn nazis!"
So... I just dunno -- why Azov is "nazis"... and Donbass or that same Chechen-one -- not???
On what base? What definition?
\\But that kind of rebranding takes some really good Ad Men. Not slogans like "We're not Nazis".
All working for Russian, Chinese, Iranians and all other such "good people" and "totally NOT nazis". ;-P
\\(Chevere, bien chevere, is that right, mama?)
Like it tells anything... to me.
Sharad?
\\Theory becomes practice and practice, theory. It's all chevere. ;)
Yeah. "Operational success"...
Or this... ;-P
\\Can we be pie? I like pie.
/Your wish is my command.
Viola! You are pie! ;-P
:)
\\Words are commands to be given by Masters and received and followed by slaves. Which are you? Don't worry, if you don't follow commands properly, your Master will appraise you of your mistake with a good beating. You'll learn.
/:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))00
Definitely "trainable".
\\Beats reading yellow journalism.
/You think there was no yellow journalism in that times? ;-P
Back then it came more from a working man's perspective, unlike today where it's "all elites all the time".
\\iow - You cannot alienate the thoughts in another person's head. You can only "lead him to water"... not "make him drink".
/There is modeling situations. Like here "lead him to water".
And I perfectly understand what you mean.
I hope my ideas (like about space probes to other stars) was easy to follow.
You ideas... cannot say so. :-(
But, maybe I just too dumb for that...
Naaah. Never be so opened minded so that you allow your brains to fall out. And that's what has happened to many of the "academics" and "theorists" that I read.
\\Yeah, we call it "rebranding"...
/Not refurbishing? ;-P
Like in taxidermy.
To make "wolfs wearing sheeps clothes". ;-)
...or convince sheep that wolves are also sheep. Repackaging wolves, maybe?
\\like what you're trying to do for Azov Battalion.
/Naaah.
That's just your brand NAZIS... became meaning practicaly ANYTHING.
Like... "they have no ice-cream I like in cafeteria... damn nazis!"
So... I just dunno -- why Azov is "nazis"... and Donbass or that same Chechen-one -- not???
On what base? What definition?
Convenience? Transferrence, but w/o all the difficult andf costly psychoanalysis. Just, "Look, another Nazi!"
\\But that kind of rebranding takes some really good Ad Men. Not slogans like "We're not Nazis".
/All working for Russian, Chinese, Iranians and all other such "good people" and "totally NOT nazis". ;-P
There ya go!
\\(Chevere, bien chevere, is that right, mama?)
/Like it tells anything... to me.
Sharad?
Sheeran?
\\Theory becomes practice and practice, theory. It's all chevere. ;)
/Yeah. "Operational success"...
Kinda.
/Or this... ;-P
closer. Cuz my link explains everything about the Ukraine war, but yours, not quite as much.
\\Definitely "trainable".
Yeah?
And for what you'd use it? That "training"???
To send people in tight lines against machine gun? ;-P
\\Back then it came more from a working man's perspective
And where do you see that "working man"... today???
Coder sitting in a cubicle -- are working man? ;-P
\\Naaah. Never be so opened minded so that you allow your brains to fall out. And that's what has happened to many of the "academics" and "theorists" that I read.
Dunno what you mean.
Well... I already told you about my experience -- of observing one who gone crazy on the base of that photons. ;-P
\\Convenience? Transferrence, but w/o all the difficult andf costly psychoanalysis. Just, "Look, another Nazi!"
Yeah.
But is it what you use it for too... what for??? Yawn.
\\Sheeran?
Whozzat??? Yawn.
You only making me overuse internet... with opening such links. Yawn.
\\closer. Cuz my link explains everything about the Ukraine war, but yours, not quite as much.
Because for it you need to read faces... and understand psychology.
Like... how cold was Xi with Macron... up to making him awkward.
And, on the opposite -- how hand in hand happy Xi feels itself with liliPut.
And... what a cretinic idea... of whole West, that in such setup -- they can INFLUENCE liliXi to "betray" liliPut. ;-P
How simple is that -- kindergarten level simple.
Children learn to read faces in very young age... but then, under influence of civilization -- seems like LOSING that ability.
Yawn.
And trying to invent all kinds of bullshit tools (like psychoanalisis and etc) instead of it.
Double Yawn.
;-P
;-P
And? How much of em flying? ;-P
\\Definitely "trainable".
/Yeah?
And for what you'd use it? That "training"???
To send people in tight lines against machine gun? ;-P
Think they would?
\\Back then it came more from a working man's perspective
/And where do you see that "working man"... today???
Coder sitting in a cubicle -- are working man? ;-P
People w/o a University/College degree. I only consider myself a working man because the USMMA is more "trade school" than "book school". I worked in "coveralls" and got my hands dirty before moving on to "cleaner" shipyards and "even cleaner" defense product factories, to the spotlessly clean government overlord offices and "cleanrooms" at NASA. The more dirt under your fingernails, the more "working class" you are.
\\Naaah. Never be so opened minded so that you allow your brains to fall out. And that's what has happened to many of the "academics" and "theorists" that I read.
/Dunno what you mean.
Well... I already told you about my experience -- of observing one who gone crazy on the base of that photons. ;-P
Read much Marx? THAT is what I mean. Permanent revolution. wtf?
\\Convenience? Transferrence, but w/o all the difficult andf costly psychoanalysis. Just, "Look, another Nazi!"
/Yeah.
But is it what you use it for too... what for??? Yawn.
Just wondering why you feel the need to hide your "Shadow self" (Jungian archetype).
\\Sheeran?
/Whozzat??? Yawn.
You only making me overuse internet... with opening such links. Yawn.
What, Musk doesn't allocate you enough bandwidth? Tell him to orbit more Starlinks with the lasercomm upgrades.
\\closer. Cuz my link explains everything about the Ukraine war, but yours, not quite as much.
/Because for it you need to read faces... and understand psychology.
Like... how cold was Xi with Macron... up to making him awkward.
And, on the opposite -- how hand in hand happy Xi feels itself with liliPut.
And... what a cretinic idea... of whole West, that in such setup -- they can INFLUENCE liliXi to "betray" liliPut. ;-P
How simple is that -- kindergarten level simple.
Children learn to read faces in very young age... but then, under influence of civilization -- seems like LOSING that ability.
Yawn.
And trying to invent all kinds of bullshit tools (like psychoanalisis and etc) instead of it.
Double Yawn.
The psychiatrist sits behind his patients. Why? You ever hear of "Big Brother" (1984)? How about Big Other (Lacan)? The subject supposed to know.
/;-P
;-P
And? How much of em flying? ;-P
None, I hope.
:P
\\Think they would?
They not??? Then what da fk such a "training" is good for? ;-P
\\People w/o a University/College degree.
Such... still exist? ;-P
\\The more dirt under your fingernails, the more "working class" you are.
Tell that to that soviet scientsts... that was sent to a village. To do chores. ;-P
\\Read much Marx?
I was living in "Marx's Paradise". ;-P
Do you think I need it??? :-))))))))))))))))))0
Some YET MOAR??? :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))0
It's for you... gullible westertners it all "just a theory" you can spice up your boring everyday life... with dreams about "Socialismus".
Especially you "academia". Bleh.
Or ones like mr.B(r)in.
\\Just wondering why you feel the need to hide your "Shadow self" (Jungian archetype).
Dunno what you mean.
Again.
\\What, Musk doesn't allocate you enough bandwidth? Tell him to orbit more Starlinks with the lasercomm upgrades.
We are backward shithole.
Still paying per byte. ;-P
\\The psychiatrist sits behind his patients. Why? You ever hear of "Big Brother" (1984)? How about Big Other (Lacan)? The subject supposed to know.
Yap.
"Influence of civilization"?
Or... that is setup of "that, who know better" -- so people would not be able to communicate with each other? to devise uprising against em??? :-)))
\\None, I hope.
Why???
I like antique planes flight shows. ;-P
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