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And by a prudent flight and cunning save A life which valour could not, from the grave. A better buckler I can soon regain, But who can get another life again? Archilochus

Monday, May 6, 2024

Prophets from the Edge of the Inside - Stephen Kotkin

Stephen Kotkin, "The Five Futures of Russia"
To Survive, Kyiv Must Build New Brigades—and Force Moscow to Negotiate

After months of delay, Congress’s passage of a nearly $61 billion U.S. aid bill to Ukraine has provided a vital lifeline to Kyiv. But the aid package alone will not solve Ukraine’s larger problems in its war with Russia. Ukrainian forces are defending frontlines that span some 600 miles of the south and east of the country, and prolonged inaction in Washington has left them severely stretched. The influx of U.S. weapons and ammunition should significantly raise the cost to Russia of its impending summer offensive. The aid also offers Ukrainian forces enough materiel to support more systematic military planning for the summer and fall.

Yet ending the war on terms favorable to Ukraine will require far more than a new pipeline of equipment. More than two years since Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, its objective in the war remains unchanged: the Kremlin seeks to subjugate Kyiv. Inconstant support and political delays among Ukraine’s international partners have left that outcome all too plausible. If Ukraine is to prevent Russian victory in the longer term, it will need a comprehensive strategy. This means training, equipping, and mobilizing new forces. It means convincing the Kremlin that continuing the war will become increasingly risky to Russia over time. And it means establishing a position of sufficient strength to be able to set forth, on Ukraine’s own terms, the parameters of a lasting peace.

None of these tasks will be straightforward, and none can happen overnight. Nor can Ukraine and its international partners afford to fritter away months formulating a way forward. The United States and its NATO allies will need to make explicit long-term commitments; compelling Russia to negotiate will be especially difficult. But the alternatives are far worse. In the absence of such an overall strategy, the duration of the conflict may be extended, but its trajectory will not.

GRIMACING AT GLIDE BOMBS

Since the fall of 2023, Ukraine’s battlefield situation has steadily worsened. Largely because of ammunition shortages, Ukrainian forces have had to cede territory to Russian forces, often after sustaining significant casualties. Russia has amassed approximately 470,000 troops in Ukraine and seems intent on using them to try to complete the conquest of Donbas over the remainder of 2024. Russian forces have been focusing their attacks on key eastern towns that, once taken, will allow them to threaten Ukraine’s main logistics hubs in and around the Donetsk region.

Talk of a new Russian offensive may conjure up images of tank units assaulting Ukrainian lines, breaking through, and then trying to exploit those gains deep into Ukrainian-held territory in order to cut off Ukrainian units. But Russia’s forces are not currently able to carry out these kinds of operations, nor do they intend to. After more than two years of war, Russia’s army has suffered heavy losses among its officer core, and its ability to plan and synchronize large-scale attacks is limited. Russian attacks mainly consist of successive assaults at platoon and company scale, resulting in slow advances with heavy losses.

Still, Russia currently enjoys a more than ten-to-one advantage over Ukraine in available artillery. With the passage of the new U.S. aid package, that advantage will likely shrink to three to one in some regions, which will increase the rate of Russian casualties. But Russia has several ways of pulling Ukrainian forces into fights that are also costly to Ukraine. For example, Russian forces have been using converted glide bombs to devastating effect. These are Soviet-designed FAB-500s—large half-ton bombs—that have been outfitted with wings and guidance kits and that are lobbed by Russian aircraft from behind the Russian lines. With an approximately 40-mile range, they can easily strike Ukrainian towns, collapsing buildings and driving out local populations.

As a result, Ukrainian forces have often been forced to expend significant resources defending costly single positions, simply to shield civilian settlements from coming into Russian glide-bomb range. Take Chasiv Yar, a small town on a key ridge line in the eastern Donetsk region. If it falls, Russian forces will gain a commanding position from which to bombard towns in Donbas and key Ukrainian supply routes. Thus, Ukrainian forces are desperately trying to hold on to it, even as the tactical situation becomes less favorable. The challenge has been amplified by Ukraine’s overstretched air defenses, a situation that now permits Russian planes to come close to the frontlines, increasing the accuracy of their bombing. Unfortunately, the more Ukraine needs its surface-to-air missile systems to protect its cities, the greater it puts at risk its ground forces at the front.

The solution to this challenge would usually be what military strategists call an “active defense,” using small-scale counterattacks to disrupt the attacker’s efforts to consolidate its advances. If, say, Russian forces seized a key position in Chasiv Yar, the Ukrainians could use counterattacks to isolate the position so that the Russians were unable to dig in and keep moving forward. But Ukraine has few reserves and has lost many of the tactical vehicles needed to exploit Russian vulnerabilities soon after they take positions. Lacking the reserves to counterattack, Ukraine must settle for maximizing Russia’s losses for each position it takes, thereby slowing down its rate of advance.

Under these conditions, even the passage of the U.S. aid bill can do only so much to change the battlefield calculus. The long delay in Washington means that it will take time to repair much of the damage to Ukrainian capabilities. Ukraine will lose ground to Russia this summer. The question is how much, and how high a price Ukrainian forces can make the Russians pay for their gains.

FRESH BLOOD, NOT MORE BLOOD

Other than the immediate provision of ammunition, the greatest effect of the new U.S. aid package is the certainty it offers. After months in which the timing and amount of U.S. support was in doubt, Ukraine will now have enough clarity about military resources for the next six months to allow for broader strategic planning.

Paramount is the need to generate new forces. To do so, Ukraine will need to mobilize more people, improve its training pipeline to maintain a qualitative advantage over Russian units, and adequately equip those new troops. Until now this has been impossible. Lacking equipment and weapons, and unable to predict if and when more might arrive, Ukraine’s military leadership was forced to prioritize all materiel for troops already at the front. The size of the U.S. aid package—and the further support of European partners—means that Ukraine’s military leadership can now implement a deliberate plan to train and equip more troops. Contrary to widespread assumptions, Ukraine does not lack people to mobilize. (According to one recent analysis, there could be several million additional Ukrainians who are able to serve.) What it has lacked is an effective recruitment and training system to bring available people into the force and equipment to provision them. These problems can and must be resolved.

Ukrainian commanders must form new brigades rather than simply bringing their existing formations back up to strength. The army currently lacks enough brigades to rotate them as a whole off the frontline. Instead, individual brigades have been rotating exhausted battalions just off the line of contact for brief respites—a strategy that provides rest but does not allow for collective training of the brigade, since brigade staff and enabling equipment remain at the front. Thus, it is crucial for Ukraine to build and train additional brigades now, so that it can mount an active defense in the fall. Over time, these new units will greatly enhance its ability to counterattack.

The military must therefore pursue mobilization in three stages. First, it must immediately raise battlefield replacements for the existing force. But then it must regenerate reserves to allow existing units to rotate and, after that, build new units able to conduct offensive action. The first is the easiest to solve. Equipment is the limiting factor for the second. For the third, the most limiting factor is officer training. This can be addressed, but it must be done imminently if Ukraine is to generate the needed forces by fall.

Russia will likely be most dangerous in the final months of 2024. By that point, having weathered months of Russian offensive operations, Ukrainian forces will be stretched thin, their air defenses depleted. Russia will likely have enough troops to rotate its units to allow for successive offensives in the fall.

But Russian capabilities are not unlimited. Moscow has made some industrial and military choices that are likely to restrict its offensive potential over the course of 2025. For one, it has decided not to expand production of artillery barrels, with the result that fewer new guns will be available next year. Based on the current loss rate, Russian stockpiles of armored vehicles will also likely be depleted by the second half of 2025. This means that Russian forces will be entirely dependent on newly produced equipment rather than refurbished equipment from existing stock, severely constraining their ability to replenish weapons systems lost in battle. At the same time, beginning in late 2024, European armaments production will begin to climb steadily as investments made last year and in the first months of this year begin to bear fruit. By 2025, then, supply problems should be less acute for Ukraine and more acute for Russia—if Ukraine can hold on until then.

With this longer-term perspective in view, the challenge facing Ukraine and its allies becomes clear. The top priorities must be to ensure not only that Russia’s summer offensive culminates at a high cost to Moscow but also that newly raised Ukrainian troops are in place to blunt further offensives in the autumn—and, ideally, to establish a stable frontline by early 2025. It is only from such a position that Ukraine can regain the initiative. Achieving that objective will depend to a significant degree on how rapidly Ukraine can mobilize and equip its forces. The one commodity it desperately lacks is time.

BRINGING MOSCOW TO THE TABLE

Even if Ukraine is able to blunt Russian gains by rapidly training, equipping, and deploying new forces, these steps will not in themselves produce a pathway to ending the conflict. Ultimately, this is because Kyiv’s international partners have built their case for support on the simpler objective of preserving Ukraine in the fight rather than on compelling Russia to negotiate on favorable terms.

The United States and its European allies need to recognize that helping Ukraine negate Russian attacks is not the same as putting Ukraine in a strong negotiating position. The Kremlin is keen for negotiations based on the war’s current dynamics: it believes that once talks are underway, Ukraine’s Western backers will agree to nearly anything, seeing any settlement that can be reached as successful, even if it fails to protect Ukraine in the long term. And Russia’s demand would remain what it has been throughout: a surrender in all but name. For Moscow to truly negotiate, it must be confronted with a situation in which extending the conflict further will present an unacceptable threat to itself. It is only then that Ukraine will be able to extract meaningful concessions.

Russia already faces several pressure points. First, Russia’s battlefield losses of critical systems—such as air defenses—matter, because they form the bulwark of Russia’s conventional deterrence of NATO. Equipping Ukraine to be able to damage or destroy prestige Russian assets is strongly in NATO’s interest. Second, Russia will be unable to fund the war indefinitely. Western sanctions are only one of the tools for damaging the regime’s financial liquidity, and they are less effective than other options. Damage to Russia’s oil infrastructure is likely to have a much greater impact. Although there are good reasons for the West to avoid directly aiding such attacks, that does not mean that Ukraine shouldn’t undertake them.

Third, although the Russian public largely supports the war, there are deep frustrations with the Russian government that can be exploited. So far, Western governments have not aggressively pursued information operations against the Russian government, partly because they are perceived as escalatory and partly because they are not expected to have immediate effect. By contrast, Russia has been conducting active information operations across Europe with the intent of destabilizing the West.

This asymmetry needs to be remedied. Western concerns that information warfare could provoke escalation are unconvincing: the Kremlin is as determined as the White House to avoid a direct confrontation over Ukraine. Moreover, the Kremlin has long assumed that the West has pursued extensive information operations against it since 2011, even though this is not the case. Any potential escalation risk of such operations is therefore already baked in. Moreover, most of the Kremlin’s routes to escalation do not actually involve countering such activities. Given this situation, there is much more that the West can do. Over the longer term, more and better information operations could heighten Moscow’s awareness of the domestic risks that its costly war has stirred up.

THE FIREPOWER FIX
Given the extent to which it is currently outgunned, Ukraine doesn’t yet have the ability to set forth favorable negotiating terms to end the war. A cease-fire would likely see Russia reconstitute its military power, while Ukraine would not be able to maintain its own forces at their current size. Moreover, Kyiv would likely receive waning support for reconstruction if renewed Russian hostilities were anticipated in the near future. Rebuilding Ukraine will depend critically on investment from the private sector, and the threat of a new conflict will make any such financing risky. To ensure that Ukraine can negotiate in the confidence that it can secure a lasting peace, Kyiv’s international partners will have to offer security guarantees that it trusts. Because Ukraine cannot propose those guarantees, it will be up to its international partners to make the first move.

Ultimately, any successful end to the war will depend on NATO’s ability to convincingly deter Russia. That posture requires the alliance not only to field sufficient forces to counter a threat from Russia but also to establish sufficient production capacity among its members to sustain a steady flow of munitions in the event of another war. Establishing this supply will be necessary regardless of how the war ends. In the short term, expanded production of munitions will be essential to Ukraine’s ability to degrade the Russian military. If Ukraine manages to protract the conflict and the war is terminated in its favor, its partners will need munitions to bolster the credibility of their security guarantees. If, on the other hand, Russia achieves its objectives, then these munitions will be needed to underwrite the future security of NATO.

The U.S. military aid package was passed just in time to stave off a Ukrainian collapse. But to truly shift the direction of the war, it will need to be accompanied by a far more comprehensive strategy to successfully end it. And that must come from Washington, its NATO allies, and Kyiv itself.

120 comments:

Anonymous said...

\\To Survive, Kyiv Must Build New Brigades—and Force Moscow to Negotiate

BS.

liliPut want to negotiate ONLY with Washington.

And about Destiny of the World... no less.

But USA playing "nobody's home" silly games. :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

And that way only ENRAGE Kreml... for neglecting generous proposal to became vassals of Great Russia. ;-P


Anonymous said...

\\After months of delay, Congress’s passage of a nearly $61 billion U.S. aid bill to Ukraine has provided a vital lifeline to Kyiv.

Not to Kyiv. To Zelensky.

Because, that is Zelensky are one who DO NOT see a way to survive... without that help. ;-P





\\and prolonged inaction in Washington has left them severely stretched.

Why "Great Russia" did not break that lines... if that'll be true?




\\The influx of U.S. weapons and ammunition should significantly raise the cost to Russia of its impending summer offensive.

And what they do not -- is NOT offensive????

What they did HALF a year???

What they did from VERY BEGINNiNG???

And you call THIS "expertise"??????!!! Bu-ga-gah!!



\\The aid also offers Ukrainian forces enough materiel to support more systematic military planning for the summer and fall.

Like they was promised with 300 tanks... but only 31 was given, and that: TOO LATE, and with "ask" to NOT use on a frontlines... As Long As Possible. :-))))))))))))

Bu-ga-gah!!! That famous "military planning" of nowaday Pentagon.

That planned end flawlessly performed... "operation to leave Afghanistan".

:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))




\\the Kremlin seeks to subjugate Kyiv.

Naaah!

It seeking to subjugate the World.

But World... in a face of USA... playing "nobody's home" silly games.





\\ If Ukraine is to prevent Russian victory in the longer term, it will need a comprehensive strategy.

Yeah.

For USA and whole West to STOP playing silly "la-la-la, I don't see a threat.... la-la-la, ouch, I don't feel a threat"...

and that, while forges and railroad in Europe start burning from RFia's sabotage acts...





\\This means training, equipping, and mobilizing new forces.

Yep.

In USA and Europe...





\\It means convincing the Kremlin that continuing the war will become increasingly risky to Russia over time.

Yeah... let's convince Hitler... with words, that what he do is "no-no"... yes, mister Chamberlain???? ;-P

:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))




\\None of these tasks will be straightforward, and none can happen overnight.

Yeah.

Soldiers and weapon for USA to fight back RFia and China that set their economies in Total Mobilization for a World War mode... NEED to be started been trained and produced ASAP.

Because... there'd be NO prolonged time for such preparations...

Because... USA ALREADY USED up that blessing of having time to prepare...



Anonymous said...

\\Nor can Ukraine and its international partners afford to fritter away months formulating a way forward.

Yap.

And that delay will be costing lifes.

Lifes of Westerners. USAians too.




\\compelling Russia to negotiate will be especially difficult.

BS.

Just that moment Washington would decide to participate in that negotiations -- that negotiations will start in a jiffy.

Only... SAME TIME, offensive against NATO will start (SAME, as it was used against Ukraine, that trick -- negotiate... means, agree to our terms).





\\But the alternatives are far worse.

Yeah.

Alternatives are really far worse.

RFia ALREADY have fully prepared to a war army.

And can conscript one, two, three... whatever millions.

While USA and all West... cannot hold their shit even. Cannot provide mizerly amount of shells, do not give miserly amounts of planes and anti-air... because of fear "we'd leave us unprotected" -- idiotic tactic.

When RFia's army will step in to conquer Europe one by one -- not amount of stockpiles (of ANY individual country) will be enough.




\\Since the fall of 2023, Ukraine’s battlefield situation has steadily worsened.

Really????

Why frontlines still not breached, then???





\\Russia has amassed approximately 470,000 troops in Ukraine and seems intent on using them to try to complete the conquest of Donbas over the remainder of 2024.

Hoh... and what stopped em from achieving it in TWO previous years??? :-)))))))))))))




\\But Russia’s forces are not currently able to carry out these kinds of operations,

Hah... why so???

While just about was said that RFia's forces are SO GREAT??? :-)))))))))))))))))))))





\\nor do they intend to.

Yeah.

Because they are SO WISE.

Because "all in accordance with Plan".

Plan to conquer Kyiv in 3 days. ;-P

Oh, those Russians... they are SO wise. :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))




\\Still, Russia currently enjoys a more than ten-to-one advantage over Ukraine in available artillery.

And whose fault is that???




\\For example, Russian forces have been using converted glide bombs to devastating effect. These are Soviet-designed FAB-500s

Yeah.

Because West STILL delaying F-16s.




\\The challenge has been amplified by Ukraine’s overstretched air defenses,

Yeah.

Which West bleeded out (deliberately??? to look what'll happen???) with delaying re-stocking of it.




Anonymous said...


\\The solution to this challenge would usually be what military strategists call an “active defense,” using small-scale counterattacks to disrupt the attacker’s efforts to consolidate its advances.

Yeah... for which long-range munition from West needed.

SAME... as western means of delivery -- F-16s first of all.

Also... some A-10 and H-1s in form of Cobra attack helicopters... would be nifty.

And would cost ZILCH for West... as they already out of duty and destined to rust on a scrapyards.




\\But Ukraine has few reserves and has lost many of the tactical vehicles needed to exploit Russian vulnerabilities soon after they take positions.

And whose fault is that???

If West do not give miserly dozens of billions to Ukraine.

While same time sponsoring RFia with hundreds of billions...





\\The long delay in Washington means that it will take time to repair much of the damage to Ukrainian capabilities.

Yap!

What Chief Hawk Eye ziz expert are.






\\Ukraine will now have enough clarity about military resources for the next six months to allow for broader strategic planning.

How little... and how delayed... it should be.

To help liliPut to have some territorial gains.

To pacify aggressor with it.

With idea "liliPut will be pleased, and will start negotiations" in minds of morons who occuping WH.

Bu-ga-gah!!!




\\Paramount is the need to generate new forces. To do so, Ukraine will need to mobilize more people, improve its training pipeline to maintain a qualitative advantage over Russian units, and adequately equip those new troops.

And DESTROY chance of Zelensky for re-election.

Yawn.





\\Until now this has been impossible.

Yap.

Zelensky STILL want his Second Term.

And why not... if even Bi-den want it so dearly????

Yawn.

Maybe Zelensky need to show to that Bi-den -- that is he will not help him to re-elect... he'll do *something*, that that Bi-den will not be able too????

Is that the rule of that game???? ;-P





\\Ukraine does not lack people to mobilize.

Yeah... Ukrainian forges and plants and factories... do not need workers.

Because they all are robotic ones??? %-)))))))





\\According to one recent analysis, there could be several million additional Ukrainians who are able to serve.

And that "several millions"... and their families.

Will NEVER vote for Zelensky... after that.

Especially, if they'll be driven in by force.

And many of em die or be wounded.




\\Ukrainian commanders must form new brigades rather than simply bringing their existing formations back up to strength.

Yeah...

Which they DID already... only, amount of Western military aid was SO little... (for ONE modern infantry brigade, by NATO standards)...

So that brigades was used as regular infantry -- INCAPABLE to counter-attack, only to be sitting ducks, in trenches. With few and outdated soviet weaponry and lacking munition.

Because???

Because "wise" strategists in WH thought that their idea of appeasement of aggressor "liliPut will be pleased, and will start negotiations"... was so flawless.

And would help Bi-den to be re-elected. ;-P

Anonymous said...

\\The military must therefore pursue mobilization in three stages. First, it must immediately raise battlefield replacements for the existing force. But then it must regenerate reserves to allow existing units to rotate and, after that, build new units able to conduct offensive action. The first is the easiest to solve. Equipment is the limiting factor for the second. For the third, the most limiting factor is officer training. This can be addressed, but it must be done imminently if Ukraine is to generate the needed forces by fall.

And West will provide ALL needed money for that???

And will share ALL military training capabilities and equipment?

And will do that ASAP????

%-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

But... it WILL compromise Bi-den's re-election!!!!

Because... that'll as good as admitting to a public and in a loud voice -- that all previous "strategies" -- WAS WRONG!!!





\\Russia will likely be most dangerous in the final months of 2024.

Yeah... yeah... yeah... :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))0

Because there'd be Time To Re-Elect Bi-den. :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))0

And nasty russians will try to interfere with it. ;-P






\\Ukrainian forces will be stretched thin, their air defenses depleted.

Again!

And WHOSE fault is that??? ;-P





\\But Russian capabilities are not unlimited. Moscow has made some industrial and military choices that are likely to restrict its offensive potential over the course of 2025.

Yeah.

Because by that time -- China will be their back-office for a war preparations.

Yawn.





\\This means that Russian forces will be entirely dependent on newly produced equipment rather than refurbished equipment from existing stock, severely constraining their ability to replenish weapons systems lost in battle.

Yeah.

Substituted with China ones... through North Korea. Or directly.

As their weaponry -- is the same type.

Yawn.

So... now West losing precious time NOT starting World War preparation... and sniffing dust after miserly incompetent RFia...

And THEN... it will be sniffing dust after Wirehouse of the World -- China.

Which all will create problems with access to resources worldwide.




\\With this longer-term perspective in view, the challenge facing Ukraine and its allies becomes clear.

Oh, yeah??? :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))0

And what if it'll fall on its face???

AGAIN!!!!







\\The top priorities must be to ensure not only that Russia’s summer offensive culminates at a high cost to Moscow but also that newly raised Ukrainian troops are in place to blunt further offensives in the autumn—and, ideally, to establish a stable frontline by early 2025.

Bullshit Goals, Bullshit Decisions.

Garbage In, Garbage Out.

By now, USA SHOULD be concocting plans of how to obliterate RFia from the surface of the Earth.

And better if with backup plan... of doing same with China.

Because... RFia and China ALREADY put such plan in use... about USA.






\\The one commodity it desperately lacks is time.

And WHOSE fault is that???????!!!!!







BRINGING MOSCOW TO THE TABLE

BRINGING MOSCOW TO A GRAVE


Here... I FIXED it for you, lame "expert", don't thank you me.











Anonymous said...

\\The Kremlin is keen for negotiations based on the war’s current dynamics: it believes that once talks are underway, Ukraine’s Western backers will agree to nearly anything, seeing any settlement that can be reached as successful, even if it fails to protect Ukraine in the long term.

What a cretin.

Kreml WIll demand submission from Whole West.

And will start offensive against NATO just that moment that "negotiations" will be started.

Because???

Because he tested it on Ukraine... and saw it as Great Success.





\\And Russia’s demand would remain what it has been throughout: a surrender in all but name

BS.

It WILL be demand of TOTAL surrender.

By Washington first of all.

And Washington KNOW that.

That's why all that lame games "nobody's home". ;-P






\\For Moscow to truly negotiate, it must be confronted with a situation in which extending the conflict further will present an unacceptable threat to itself.

***BS***!!!!!

That is that state of affairs RFia ***WANT*** to achieve.

Because just that moment it will apply its Atomic Bluff Tactic.

To the UTMOST!!!

"Either YOU, nasty West, Satanists, Heathens, Scum of the Earth... agree to ALL our demands, and start begging on your knees to spare your miserly butts... OR ELSE!!!!"





\\Equipping Ukraine to be able to damage or destroy prestige Russian assets is strongly in NATO’s interest.

Yeah... but would Bi-den listen????





\\Second, Russia will be unable to fund the war indefinitely.

Yeah... while receiving billions from West... yeah???





\\Western sanctions are only one of the tools for damaging the regime’s financial liquidity, and they are less effective than other options.

Because... they DELIBERATELY made so. Look above.






\\Third, although the Russian public largely supports the war, there are deep frustrations with the Russian government that can be exploited.

Oh, please. :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

"Smarty" CIA tricks again??? :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Which revealed only TOTAL incompetency of that said CIA. :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))






\\By contrast, Russia has been conducting active information operations across Europe with the intent of destabilizing the West.

Yeah.

And that one... work like charm.

With HALF of West repeating that chants. Out own free will (will not be pointing finger, but certain someone already know about whom it said ;-)).

While other HALF... totally dumbfounded by own western sirens of propaganda. Propaganda of Re-Election of Bi-Den... as Only Important Thing, EVER!!! %-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))00

Anonymous said...

\\Moreover, the Kremlin has long assumed that the West has pursued extensive information operations against it since 2011, even though this is not the case.

Yeah???

But isn't that Maidan is "CIA plot"??? :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))






\\Given the extent to which it is currently outgunned, Ukraine doesn’t yet have the ability to set forth favorable negotiating terms to end the war. A cease-fire would likely see Russia reconstitute its military power, while Ukraine would not be able to maintain its own forces at their current size. Moreover, Kyiv would likely receive waning support for reconstruction if renewed Russian hostilities were anticipated in the near future. Rebuilding Ukraine will depend critically on investment from the private sector, and the threat of a new conflict will make any such financing risky. To ensure that Ukraine can negotiate in the confidence that it can secure a lasting peace, Kyiv’s international partners will have to offer security guarantees that it trusts. Because Ukraine cannot propose those guarantees, it will be up to its international partners to make the first move.

Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine.

DA FK with Ukraine.

YOUR OWN HOUSE will be on fire... it ALREADY is.

And you still babbling about Ukraine.

%-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Well, yeah... but now I know all, and even more... about WHY and HOW previous World War happened... especially Second one.

Because to predict First... was plausibly impossible.

But... NEGLECTING that glaring with empty from eyeballs scull FACT... that THIRD World War already started...

that's... that's greatly cretinic fit.





\\Ultimately, any successful end to the war will depend on NATO’s ability to convincingly deter Russia.

No. Dumb shit.

NOW. You need to DESTROY it.

For good.

As ALL chances to deter... you successfully BUSTED.

With you delay and postponing responsibility... at your demn children and grandchildren... that WILL BE loathing your stupidity... if they'll survive it.




\\The U.S. military aid package was passed just in time to stave off a Ukrainian collapse. But to truly shift the direction of the war, it will need to be accompanied by a far more comprehensive strategy to successfully end it. And that must come from Washington, its NATO allies, and Kyiv itself.

****GO START World War PREPARATIONS, fools!****











-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\To Survive, Kyiv Must Build New Brigades—and Force Moscow to Negotiate
/BS.
liliPut want to negotiate ONLY with Washington.
And about Destiny of the World... no less.
But USA playing "nobody's home" silly games. :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
And that way only ENRAGE Kreml... for neglecting generous proposal to became vassals of Great Russia. ;-P


There you have it, the American and British positions. One believes Ukraine can still win the war. The other no longer believes that, but hopes you can win the peace (a position that was on the table a year and a half ago that Ukraine/US turned down). Both options, now, require more Ukrainians to die.

ps - When we want something from China's vassal state (North Korea) we also do better if we negotiate with China. So I understand their position of wanting to negotiate with us, and not you. We (not you) have the "ironic distance" needed to accept a deal (that you, who are too close to it) would likely reject.


\\After months of delay, Congress’s passage of a nearly $61 billion U.S. aid bill to Ukraine has provided a vital lifeline to Kyiv.
/Not to Kyiv. To Zelensky.
Because, that is Zelensky are one who DO NOT see a way to survive... without that help. ;-P


Golden parachute?


\\and prolonged inaction in Washington has left them severely stretched.
/Why "Great Russia" did not break that lines... if that'll be true?


Europe helped you "muddle through".


\\The influx of U.S. weapons and ammunition should significantly raise the cost to Russia of its impending summer offensive.
/And what they do not -- is NOT offensive????
What they did HALF a year???
What they did from VERY BEGINNiNG???
And you call THIS "expertise"??????!!! Bu-ga-gah!!


I call it the "University Discourse" of the 'experts' with no skin in the game. They're not even the generals, who know of war, so are twice removed from knowledge.


\\The aid also offers Ukrainian forces enough materiel to support more systematic military planning for the summer and fall.
/Like they was promised with 300 tanks... but only 31 was given, and that: TOO LATE, and with "ask" to NOT use on a frontlines... As Long As Possible. :-))))))))))))
Bu-ga-gah!!! That famous "military planning" of nowaday Pentagon.
That planned end flawlessly performed... "operation to leave Afghanistan".
:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))


They do keep you on a short leash. It makes you a better slave.


\\the Kremlin seeks to subjugate Kyiv.
/Naaah!
It seeking to subjugate the World.
But World... in a face of USA... playing "nobody's home" silly games.


And you are just a minor part of USAs game to "subjugate Rusha". As the game to influence/ coerce other European and former Soviet States to "join NATO". Hopefully they'll learn from Ukraine's experience. America only seeks one thing. Control of your "markets".


\\ If Ukraine is to prevent Russian victory in the longer term, it will need a comprehensive strategy.
/Yeah.
For USA and whole West to STOP playing silly "la-la-la, I don't see a threat.... la-la-la, ouch, I don't feel a threat"...
and that, while forges and railroad in Europe start burning from RFia's sabotage acts...


USA is in no hurry. Think of all the countries that Russia would have to "burn through" to get to us. Do you really think they care about the Ukrainian "front"? The Georgian? Their merely daggers aimed at Russia's underbelly. Slow thrusts.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\This means training, equipping, and mobilizing new forces.
/Yep.
In USA and Europe...


...and disturb the markets? G_d forbid! Business must not be perturbed. If Americans suffered any disturbances, Biden might not get re-elected. Nothing happens until AFTER America's election this November. THAT I can guarantee. Kyiv should take THAT into account when spending their $61b. There will be no "offenses" from Ukraine this year. The fighting retreat will continue for the forseeable future.


\\It means convincing the Kremlin that continuing the war will become increasingly risky to Russia over time.
/Yeah... let's convince Hitler... with words, that what he do is "no-no"... yes, mister Chamberlain???? ;-P
:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))


You heard the experts. The UK say's "fight on". The USA says, "fight, so we can make a truce that lets us live to fight another day". Who would you listen to? The "hard-kill" Americans, or the "soft-kill" Brits?


\\None of these tasks will be straightforward, and none can happen overnight.
/Yeah.
Soldiers and weapon for USA to fight back RFia and China that set their economies in Total Mobilization for a World War mode... NEED to be started been trained and produced ASAP.
Because... there'd be NO prolonged time for such preparations...
Because... USA ALREADY USED up that blessing of having time to prepare...


Please. You still don't get it. There's an election this November that will decide the fate of the world. And Ukraine will not be allowed to disturb it. If there's to be a "mobilization", it wouldn't start until Jan '25 at best. And if Trump wins, it likely won't happen at all.


\\Nor can Ukraine and its international partners afford to fritter away months formulating a way forward.
/Yap.
And that delay will be costing lifes.
Lifes of Westerners. USAians too.


No, the lives to be frittered are all Ukrainian (and possibly Georgian).


\\compelling Russia to negotiate will be especially difficult.
/BS.
Just that moment Washington would decide to participate in that negotiations -- that negotiations will start in a jiffy.
Only... SAME TIME, offensive against NATO will start (SAME, as it was used against Ukraine, that trick -- negotiate... means, agree to our terms).


Compelling them to negotiate on Ukrainian terms will be impossible. So it looks like Ukraine we be completely depopulated. NATO isn't about to "bleed for Ukraine".


\\But the alternatives are far worse.
/Yeah.
Alternatives are really far worse.
RFia ALREADY have fully prepared to a war army.
And can conscript one, two, three... whatever millions.
While USA and all West... cannot hold their shit even. Cannot provide mizerly amount of shells, do not give miserly amounts of planes and anti-air... because of fear "we'd leave us unprotected" -- idiotic tactic.
When RFia's army will step in to conquer Europe one by one -- not amount of stockpiles (of ANY individual country) will be enough.


They're behind the NATO shield. They're not very worried.


\\Since the fall of 2023, Ukraine’s battlefield situation has steadily worsened.
/Really????
Why frontlines still not breached, then???


Nobody said that you weren't fierce fighters. And offensive operations typically need at least a 4-1 local troop advantage. You're the '1' on defense. Reminds me of when Jackson would put his Shannendoah army on a train to join with Lee, fight a battle, and be back on trains into the Shenandoah by the next morning.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\Russia has amassed approximately 470,000 troops in Ukraine and seems intent on using them to try to complete the conquest of Donbas over the remainder of 2024.
/Hoh... and what stopped em from achieving it in TWO previous years??? :-)))))))))))))


Ukraine also had that many troops on the lines then. But they're no longer "there". And Russia still has "reserves" to draw on (if needed). Ukraine?


\\But Russia’s forces are not currently able to carry out these kinds of operations,
/Hah... why so???
While just about was said that RFia's forces are SO GREAT??? :-)))))))))))))))))))))


Their meat grinder is working. So why change tactics. Tortoise vs. Hare strategy.


\\nor do they intend to.
/Yeah.
Because they are SO WISE.
Because "all in accordance with Plan".
Plan to conquer Kyiv in 3 days. ;-P
Oh, those Russians... they are SO wise. :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))


The Hare has learned to run the tortoise's race. Rope-a-Dope. Now you're all "punched out" from Glorious "Ukrainian Offensives". :(


\\Still, Russia currently enjoys a more than ten-to-one advantage over Ukraine in available artillery.
/And whose fault is that???


Think NATO isn't learning the artillery lesson? They're not going to give it all to you (except Denmark?). They've discovered that THEY are in short supply of artillery. What did they spend (GDP) on arms during the past 80 years while the USA protected them since 1945? Their OWN asses are on the line.


\\For example, Russian forces have been using converted glide bombs to devastating effect. These are Soviet-designed FAB-500s
/Yeah.
Because West STILL delaying F-16s.


Still training up the AI, probably. How many of your pilots went through "Top Gun"?


\\The challenge has been amplified by Ukraine’s overstretched air defenses,
/Yeah.
Which West bleeded out (deliberately??? to look what'll happen???) with delaying re-stocking of it.


Most of your air defenses were former Soviet. How were we supposed to "re-stock" it? Buy from Putin? Your whole military needed re-tooling and training with NATO arms.


\\The solution to this challenge would usually be what military strategists call an “active defense,” using small-scale counterattacks to disrupt the attacker’s efforts to consolidate its advances.
/Yeah... for which long-range munition from West needed.
SAME... as western means of delivery -- F-16s first of all.
Also... some A-10 and H-1s in form of Cobra attack helicopters... would be nifty.
And would cost ZILCH for West... as they already out of duty and destined to rust on a scrapyards.


Exactly. Scrap doesn't have a logistics chain. You might get a few days use of the gear before it would all be useless scrap in Ukraine, unrepairable. btw - How many F-16 mechanics have you trained?

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\But Ukraine has few reserves and has lost many of the tactical vehicles needed to exploit Russian vulnerabilities soon after they take positions.
/And whose fault is that???
If West do not give miserly dozens of billions to Ukraine.
While same time sponsoring RFia with hundreds of billions...


We can't give you trained mechanics and tooled-up logistical facilities, can we.


\\The long delay in Washington means that it will take time to repair much of the damage to Ukrainian capabilities.
/Yap!
What Chief Hawk Eye ziz expert are.


Face it, Ukraine was totally unprepared for a war with Russia. Maybe they shouldn't have unleashed their Nazi militia's to poke and humilate Russian civilians in the Luhansk/Donbass. The Big bear now protects her cubs


\\Ukraine will now have enough clarity about military resources for the next six months to allow for broader strategic planning.
/How little... and how delayed... it should be.
To help liliPut to have some territorial gains.
To pacify aggressor with it.
With idea "liliPut will be pleased, and will start negotiations" in minds of morons who occuping WH.
Bu-ga-gah!!!


Six months until the US election. THAT is the "strategic clarity" that is required. Survive.


\\Paramount is the need to generate new forces. To do so, Ukraine will need to mobilize more people, improve its training pipeline to maintain a qualitative advantage over Russian units, and adequately equip those new troops.
/And DESTROY chance of Zelensky for re-election.
Yawn.


Please. Zelensky will fly to his new chalet on Lake Geneva this November when Biden loses his re-election.


\\Until now this has been impossible.
/Yap.
Zelensky STILL want his Second Term.
And why not... if even Bi-den want it so dearly????
Yawn.
Maybe Zelensky need to show to that Bi-den -- that is he will not help him to re-elect... he'll do *something*, that that Bi-den will not be able too????
Is that the rule of that game???? ;-P


Zelensky must do only one thing for Biden, not lose the war before November. Chances are the Zelensky has a plane with it's engines running right now waiting for when the $61b clears his Swiss bank account.


\\Ukraine does not lack people to mobilize.
/Yeah... Ukrainian forges and plants and factories... do not need workers.
Because they all are robotic ones??? %-)))))))


In America, the 18-25 conscript group would have been on the front lines on Day 1.


\\According to one recent analysis, there could be several million additional Ukrainians who are able to serve.
/And that "several millions"... and their families.
Will NEVER vote for Zelensky... after that.
Especially, if they'll be driven in by force.
And many of em die or be wounded.


You really think Ukraine will ever have another election? The Russians will simply appoint Commissars after Zelensky boards his plane to the West.


\\Ukrainian commanders must form new brigades rather than simply bringing their existing formations back up to strength.
/Yeah...
Which they DID already... only, amount of Western military aid was SO little... (for ONE modern infantry brigade, by NATO standards)...
So that brigades was used as regular infantry -- INCAPABLE to counter-attack, only to be sitting ducks, in trenches. With few and outdated soviet weaponry and lacking munition.
Because???
Because "wise" strategists in WH thought that their idea of appeasement of aggressor "liliPut will be pleased, and will start negotiations"... was so flawless.
And would help Bi-den to be re-elected. ;-P


Don't blame us, you should have kept your Azov boys on a shorter leash.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\The military must therefore pursue mobilization in three stages. First, it must immediately raise battlefield replacements for the existing force. But then it must regenerate reserves to allow existing units to rotate and, after that, build new units able to conduct offensive action. The first is the easiest to solve. Equipment is the limiting factor for the second. For the third, the most limiting factor is officer training. This can be addressed, but it must be done imminently if Ukraine is to generate the needed forces by fall.
/And West will provide ALL needed money for that???
And will share ALL military training capabilities and equipment?
And will do that ASAP????
%-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))


You really think any money will actually reach Ukraine's military, and not Zelensky's (and his favorite generals) Swiss bank accounts?


/But... it WILL compromise Bi-den's re-election!!!!
Because... that'll as good as admitting to a public and in a loud voice -- that all previous "strategies" -- WAS WRONG!!!


They were. And the $61b merely says, "It was Ukraine's fault, I gave them money..."


\\Russia will likely be most dangerous in the final months of 2024.
/Yeah... yeah... yeah... :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))0
Because there'd be Time To Re-Elect Bi-den. :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))0
And nasty russians will try to interfere with it. ;-P


...and the Ukrainian soldiers on the front lines will be left holding their d*cks in the trenches while Zelensky's chateau on Lake Geneva gets refurbished.


\\Ukrainian forces will be stretched thin, their air defenses depleted.
Again!
And WHOSE fault is that??? ;-P


Brain dead Azov idiots playing "Ukraine Nationalist" band songs whilest molesting Russian speaking Ukrainian girls in Donbass.


\\But Russian capabilities are not unlimited. Moscow has made some industrial and military choices that are likely to restrict its offensive potential over the course of 2025.
/Yeah.
Because by that time -- China will be their back-office for a war preparations.
Yawn.


Hey, the Chinese need some surplus weapons manufacturing operations on-line, too. How else will the retake Taiwan?


\\This means that Russian forces will be entirely dependent on newly produced equipment rather than refurbished equipment from existing stock, severely constraining their ability to replenish weapons systems lost in battle.
/Yeah.
Substituted with China ones... through North Korea. Or directly.
As their weaponry -- is the same type.
Yawn.
So... now West losing precious time NOT starting World War preparation... and sniffing dust after miserly incompetent RFia...
And THEN... it will be sniffing dust after Wirehouse of the World -- China.
Which all will create problems with access to resources worldwide.


No, now Russia will be in same status of non-logistics as Ukraine is with "Western" weapon systems. The Chinese are WAY past the old Russian weapons.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\With this longer-term perspective in view, the challenge facing Ukraine and its allies becomes clear.
/Oh, yeah??? :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))0
And what if it'll fall on its face???
AGAIN!!!!


It will. So why aren't you sitting at a peace table on back-channel? Waiting for the US election losses in November?


\\The top priorities must be to ensure not only that Russia’s summer offensive culminates at a high cost to Moscow but also that newly raised Ukrainian troops are in place to blunt further offensives in the autumn—and, ideally, to establish a stable frontline by early 2025.
/Bullshit Goals, Bullshit Decisions.
Garbage In, Garbage Out.
By now, USA SHOULD be concocting plans of how to obliterate RFia from the surface of the Earth.
And better if with backup plan... of doing same with China.
Because... RFia and China ALREADY put such plan in use... about USA.


USA won't do anything. They'll cut their losses soon enough. At best, they'll distract the Russians with Georgia for a few months.


\\The one commodity it desperately lacks is time.
/And WHOSE fault is that???????!!!!!


Your idiot Goostepping militias in Luhansk/ Donbass. The Russians didn't invade for "no reasons/ Putin crazy".


/BRINGING MOSCOW TO THE TABLE
BRINGING MOSCOW TO A GRAVE
Here... I FIXED it for you, lame "expert", don't thank you me.


Those options have been off the table almost from Day 1. But hey, you want to keep digging? That's on Ukraine, not your whacky American advisors.


\\The Kremlin is keen for negotiations based on the war’s current dynamics: it believes that once talks are underway, Ukraine’s Western backers will agree to nearly anything, seeing any settlement that can be reached as successful, even if it fails to protect Ukraine in the long term.
/What a cretin.
Kreml WIll demand submission from Whole West.
And will start offensive against NATO just that moment that "negotiations" will be started.
Because???
Because he tested it on Ukraine... and saw it as Great Success.


"Don't Bogart that joint, my friend, pass it over to me." In other words: Your "jouissance" conspires to shade your rational mind.


\\And Russia’s demand would remain what it has been throughout: a surrender in all but name
/BS.
It WILL be demand of TOTAL surrender.
By Washington first of all.
And Washington KNOW that.
That's why all that lame games "nobody's home". ;-P


Washington will not be present at Ukraine's surrender table. They'll be having cocktails in Georgetown planning their next Russia Test.


\\For Moscow to truly negotiate, it must be confronted with a situation in which extending the conflict further will present an unacceptable threat to itself.
/***BS***!!!!!
That is that state of affairs RFia ***WANT*** to achieve.
Because just that moment it will apply its Atomic Bluff Tactic.
To the UTMOST!!!
"Either YOU, nasty West, Satanists, Heathens, Scum of the Earth... agree to ALL our demands, and start begging on your knees to spare your miserly butts... OR ELSE!!!!"


Actually, what he says is true. That should be an indicator to you how "bad" the peace will be. Ukraine will be castrated for at least 50 years.


\\Equipping Ukraine to be able to damage or destroy prestige Russian assets is strongly in NATO’s interest.
/Yeah... but would Bi-den listen????


Not unless he wins come November. And even then, he'll avoid any escalation with Russia (except through other proxies like Georgia).


\\Second, Russia will be unable to fund the war indefinitely.
/Yeah... while receiving billions from West... yeah???


Germany needs oil. It's economy is dead in the water.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\Western sanctions are only one of the tools for damaging the regime’s financial liquidity, and they are less effective than other options.
/Because... they DELIBERATELY made so. Look above.


Sanctions don't work over short-terms. Especially since we've made avoiding and evading them easy. Europe doesn't want "sanctions".


\\Third, although the Russian public largely supports the war, there are deep frustrations with the Russian government that can be exploited.
/Oh, please. :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
"Smarty" CIA tricks again??? :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Which revealed only TOTAL incompetency of that said CIA. :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))


Russia has made Putin more powerful than ever. There is no dissent against Putin except Pussy Riot and her Inter-Passive gay allies.


\\By contrast, Russia has been conducting active information operations across Europe with the intent of destabilizing the West.
/Yeah.
And that one... work like charm.
With HALF of West repeating that chants. Out own free will (will not be pointing finger, but certain someone already know about whom it said ;-)).
While other HALF... totally dumbfounded by own western sirens of propaganda. Propaganda of Re-Election of Bi-Den... as Only Important Thing, EVER!!! %-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))00


The 'threat' of Russian disinformation is merely a tool used by the USIC to censor and deplatform American nationalists that could challenge the globalists and also allow the Counter-Intelligence forces to rig the election for Biden.


\\Moreover, the Kremlin has long assumed that the West has pursued extensive information operations against it since 2011, even though this is not the case.
/Yeah???
But isn't that Maidan is "CIA plot"??? :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))


Like I said above.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\Given the extent to which it is currently outgunned, Ukraine doesn’t yet have the ability to set forth favorable negotiating terms to end the war. A cease-fire would likely see Russia reconstitute its military power, while Ukraine would not be able to maintain its own forces at their current size. Moreover, Kyiv would likely receive waning support for reconstruction if renewed Russian hostilities were anticipated in the near future. Rebuilding Ukraine will depend critically on investment from the private sector, and the threat of a new conflict will make any such financing risky. To ensure that Ukraine can negotiate in the confidence that it can secure a lasting peace, Kyiv’s international partners will have to offer security guarantees that it trusts. Because Ukraine cannot propose those guarantees, it will be up to its international partners to make the first move.
/Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine.
DA FK with Ukraine.
YOUR OWN HOUSE will be on fire... it ALREADY is.
And you still babbling about Ukraine.
%-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Well, yeah... but now I know all, and even more... about WHY and HOW previous World War happened... especially Second one.
Because to predict First... was plausibly impossible.
But... NEGLECTING that glaring with empty from eyeballs scull FACT... that THIRD World War already started...
that's... that's greatly cretinic fit.


Look, Ukraine is f*cked, and WWIII is going to kicked down a VERY LONG ROAD. No one is going to "save you". Your "white knight" is a senile old man in a basement playing Super MarioKarts and trying to keep what's left of his addled and aging mind from disappearing.


\\Ultimately, any successful end to the war will depend on NATO’s ability to convincingly deter Russia.
/No. Dumb shit.
NOW. You need to DESTROY it.
For good.
As ALL chances to deter... you successfully BUSTED.
With you delay and postponing responsibility... at your demn children and grandchildren... that WILL BE loathing your stupidity... if they'll survive it.


If I were you Q, I'd be looking to beat the coming rush to the Polish border and the refugee sorting camps.


\\The U.S. military aid package was passed just in time to stave off a Ukrainian collapse. But to truly shift the direction of the war, it will need to be accompanied by a far more comprehensive strategy to successfully end it. And that must come from Washington, its NATO allies, and Kyiv itself.
/****GO START World War PREPARATIONS, fools!


Sorry, the WWIII can will be kicked down a VERY LONG ROAD.

Anonymous said...

I'm glad that you liked my response so much.




\\There you have it, the American and British positions. One believes Ukraine can still win the war. The other no longer believes that, but hopes you can win the peace (a position that was on the table a year and a half ago that Ukraine/US turned down). Both options, now, require more Ukrainians to die.

Whatever.

It not about Ukraine.

As it was not about Poland... in 1939.

Only one thing is for sure -- if Ukraine would fall, next will be less then year.

Actually... it will be simultaneously.

From next month to next half-year/year -- there'd be attack on NATO.

Be ready.

To flee... bu-ga-gah!

Afganistan Retreat, is that how it called in Modern Pentagon Rulebook???!

Only... this time euro-beraucrats will be falling from that C-17s. ;-P




\\Europe helped you "muddle through".

:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))




\\They do keep you on a short leash. It makes you a better slave.

Pft!

:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))




\\And you are just a minor part of USAs game to "subjugate Rusha".

ROFL!!!

:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))





\\USA is in no hurry.

Yeah... no need to rush, when you already admitted defeat. ;-P





\\ Think of all the countries that Russia would have to "burn through" to get to us.

"Generals always prepair to previous battles"(c)

People of France was ALSO very proud of their Maginot line.

Yawn.

And then, *very*happy* to be under boches occupation. ;-P

But... in their case, there was brits and you... to free em.





Anonymous said...

\\...and disturb the markets? G_d forbid! Business must not be perturbed.

Well... it can start to change registration... into aggressors jurisdiction. ;-P


\\There will be no "offenses" from Ukraine this year.

Ready to bet? How much? ;-P




\\You heard the experts. The UK say's "fight on". The USA says, "fight, so we can make a truce that lets us live to fight another day". Who would you listen to? The "hard-kill" Americans, or the "soft-kill" Brits?

Whatever.

ICBMs are in your direction.

Yawn.

Didn't you heard -- how your WH tried to beg liliPut and liliXi... about "let's not give control to AI over ICBMs".

Because... oh, but they, "those who know better" of your -- do not share with you that info -- that Great Russia have system called "Death Hand" -- which of unknown abilities system, but with sure goal -- to launch ICBMs EVEN or precisely if... main HQ or even all RFia, are totally destroyed.

So??? Who fears who??? ;-P

Your bravado -- is because of your ignorance.

And "those who know better" who are in WH... much more cautious. ;-P





\\Lifes of Westerners. USAians too.

\\No, the lives to be frittered are all Ukrainian (and possibly Georgian).

Thrown Tsar Mega-Nuke at Ukraine... or Georgia.

Would be more then madness... it would be suicide.

But... nuking out opposite hemisphere... Russians in Uriupinsk... even would not feel that change in radioactivity levels. ;-P

And that is only your sissy-pussy little ponies... with general's starts and stripes... who was teached to be fearing "radioactive polusion".

Bu-ga-gah! :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))





\\Compelling them to negotiate on Ukrainian terms will be impossible.

Quite opposite.

Commence operation Iron Dome 2.0.

And they'll start begging "let's be more patient". And even will start wiggling their tails like that puppies.

You really... know ZILCH about psychology. Even to my infinitesimal level of what mentioned in your police series... (facepalm) about all kinds of psychos.



\\So it looks like Ukraine we be completely depopulated. NATO isn't about to "bleed for Ukraine".

Whatever.

They are on the list alongside you.

But... in opposite to you -- they KNOW it. For sure. And not in state of De Nile.

Especially those who have close encounters with Russia's military boot... kicking their sore asses.




\\They're behind the NATO shield. They're not very worried.

Yeah.

Like Denmark. That donated ALL of its artillery. And now trying to accure MORE.

Like Neatherlands. Who giving their F-16s.

Like Czechia.

Like Baltic countries.




\\And offensive operations typically need at least a 4-1 local troop advantage.

BS.




\\Ukraine also had that many troops on the lines then. But they're no longer "there". And Russia still has "reserves" to draw on (if needed). Ukraine?

And your sources???

Ah, yes, Russian propaganda feces pipes. ;-P

While *I*... listen DIRECTLY from their everyday battle reports. ;-)

Their Top Brass missives.



\\Their meat grinder is working. So why change tactics. Tortoise vs. Hare strategy.

All as planned. :-)))))))))))))))))))

And plan was to put in grave millions of Russians. :-))))))))))))))))))

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Anonymous said...

\\The Hare has learned to run the tortoise's race. Rope-a-Dope. Now you're all "punched out" from Glorious "Ukrainian Offensives". :(

Glorius indeed.

No USAian, German or puny French trooper... would even leave his barrack.

Just to go out in fields.

Without Air support. Without backup. Outnumbered. Against fortified lines.

And still breaching em... and moving back on big swatches of frontline.





\\Think NATO isn't learning the artillery lesson? They're not going to give it all to you (except Denmark?). They've discovered that THEY are in short supply of artillery. What did they spend (GDP) on arms during the past 80 years while the USA protected them since 1945? Their OWN asses are on the line.

Bent on proving MY point.

Ou'Key! ;-P




\\Still training up the AI, probably. How many of your pilots went through "Top Gun"?

"Ghost of Kyiv", heard of it? ;-P

Your "top gun" are sissy-pussies in comparation.

And well... you ALWAYS was beat by soviet MiGs... (remember story WHY that "top gun" appeared?)

and who was sitting in their cockpits, ah?




\\Most of your air defenses were former Soviet. How were we supposed to "re-stock" it? Buy from Putin? Your whole military needed re-tooling and training with NATO arms.

Naaah.

That is NATO... that need to be re-stocked and re-trained by Ukrainian standards. ;-)

Remember... your last "success" -- scared fleeing from beardies with AKs.

Only that of Ams who came to Ukraine as volunteers... can be called soldiers trained in modern arms.

All your "high-trained' troopers... are just rookies. ;-P




\\Exactly. Scrap doesn't have a logistics chain. You might get a few days use of the gear before it would all be useless scrap in Ukraine, unrepairable. btw - How many F-16 mechanics have you trained?

What is planned time of tank/plane existing in battle? Minutes? Seconds?

Anonymous said...

\\We can't give you trained mechanics and tooled-up logistical facilities, can we.

Was you sending ones... when you was sending your Lend-Lease?




\\Face it, Ukraine was totally unprepared for a war with Russia.

And now... put it into context -- that it STILL fighting back. With immense success.

Now... you need to start fearing Ukrainians. "Nazis", or whatever. Bu-ga-gah!




\\Maybe they shouldn't have unleashed their Nazi militia's to poke and humilate Russian civilians in the Luhansk/Donbass.

Give At Least One Facts, would ya???

Even if from Russian propaganda.

But you would not... because EVEN Russian propagandists knew it being such an UNFEKABLE BS.

That they reduced that only to spreading some fuzzy rumors.




\\The Big bear now protects her cubs

By dropping bombs at it? ;-P




\\Six months until the US election. THAT is the "strategic clarity" that is required. Survive.

Yeah. War-time propaganda waterfalls.

And maybe some saboteurs.

Spreading "Novichok"???





\\Please. Zelensky will fly to his new chalet on Lake Geneva this November when Biden loses his re-election.

Yeah... as radioactive ash. :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))

You didn't heard what destiny latest propaganda "prophesed" to him?

Well... anyway. His Cinderella time ends... like in couple of weeks. ;-P

You... just not paying attention to ANY stone cold facts.





\\Zelensky must do only one thing for Biden, not lose the war before November. Chances are the Zelensky has a plane with it's engines running right now waiting for when the $61b clears his Swiss bank account.

:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))




\\In America, the 18-25 conscript group would have been on the front lines on Day 1.

In what day and age???

Yawn.




\\You really think Ukraine will ever have another election? The Russians will simply appoint Commissars after Zelensky boards his plane to the West.

Why you asking me? Ask Zelensky.





\\Don't blame us, you should have kept your Azov boys on a shorter leash.

And what about all OTHER volunteers battalions???? ;-P





Anonymous said...

\\You really think any money will actually reach Ukraine's military, and not Zelensky's (and his favorite generals) Swiss bank accounts?

Russian sweared to bomb out Switzerland too. ;-P

So... in Great Russian World... there'd be only Rubles... which you'd not allowed to have.

And shells.. as currency. ;-P

Get to your roots, Tamani. :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))0




\\They were. And the $61b merely says, "It was Ukraine's fault, I gave them money..."

Means... a bribe. ;-P




\\Brain dead Azov idiots playing "Ukraine Nationalist" band songs whilest molesting Russian speaking Ukrainian girls in Donbass.

Got video? ;-P

While news from frontlines is different.

Just in a few day... Russian soldier have killed Ukrainian girl. After raping her.

But yeah... that's all "ukrainian nazis did it".

Bu-ga-gah!





\\Hey, the Chinese need some surplus weapons manufacturing operations on-line, too. How else will the retake Taiwan?

How many Chinese.

And how many USAians???




\\No, now Russia will be in same status of non-logistics as Ukraine is with "Western" weapon systems. The Chinese are WAY past the old Russian weapons.

And from what crackpot you taking such such a trash "info"??? %-))))))




\\It will. So why aren't you sitting at a peace table on back-channel? Waiting for the US election losses in November?

Why should I care????




\\Because... RFia and China ALREADY put such plan in use... about USA.

\\USA won't do anything.

"Smart" plan. Indeed.





\\Your idiot Goostepping militias in Luhansk/ Donbass. The Russians didn't invade for "no reasons/ Putin crazy".

Yeah.

They busted their economy.

So... to prevent uprising, and ensure continuation of their rule.

They devised such a NEW plan -- to start "little victorious war".

Remember "Tail wagging dog". ;-P

But... because they are dumb as log. They made it all wrong.

But... paradoxically enough, it still working for them. :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Because their "electorate" is alcohol poisoned. From birth. ;-P




\\/BRINGING MOSCOW TO THE TABLE
BRINGING MOSCOW TO A GRAVE
Here... I FIXED it for you, lame "expert", don't thank you me.

\\Those options have been off the table almost from Day 1.

"If they'll be living, while I'm don't... I would be living too"??? %-)))))))





\\"Don't Bogart that joint, my friend, pass it over to me." In other words: Your "jouissance" conspires to shade your rational mind.

Dunno what you mean.


\\Washington will not be present at Ukraine's surrender table. They'll be having cocktails in Georgetown planning their next Russia Test.

This too.



\\"Either YOU, nasty West, Satanists, Heathens, Scum of the Earth... agree to ALL our demands, and start begging on your knees to spare your miserly butts... OR ELSE!!!!"

\\Actually, what he says is true. That should be an indicator to you how "bad" the peace will be. Ukraine will be castrated for at least 50 years.

And not USA??? %-))))))))))))))))))))))))0




\\Not unless he wins come November. And even then, he'll avoid any escalation with Russia (except through other proxies like Georgia).

Means... continue playing Chamberlain.

Well, yeah... and when Chamberlain was ousted???

Ah, yes,

""
Following the invasion of Poland on 1 September 1939, which marked the beginning of the Second World War, Chamberlain announced the declaration of war on Germany two days later and led the United Kingdom through the first eight months of the war until his resignation as prime minister on 10 May 1940.
""



\\Germany needs oil. It's economy is dead in the water.

Yeah.

Same as it was in 1944. ;-P












Anonymous said...

\\Sanctions don't work over short-terms. Especially since we've made avoiding and evading them easy. Europe doesn't want "sanctions".

And that's why made 14th round of em.

Oh, yes. %-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))




\\Russia has made Putin more powerful than ever.

Like in time of Prigojin's March???

Naaah.

That is Washington... that holding his ass. And protecting its back.

Like with admitting him being prez... today was "inauguration", of you dunno even such trivia.

Russia... it's asset of your Deep State, got it?

And their plan -- to instantiate it into Cold War 2.0, safely. It seems.

But... there's China. ;-P




\\The 'threat' of Russian disinformation is merely a tool used by the USIC to censor and deplatform American nationalists that could challenge the globalists and also allow the Counter-Intelligence forces to rig the election for Biden.

Yeah... that's what Matrix made you to think, Neo.




\\\\Moreover, the Kremlin has long assumed that the West has pursued extensive information operations against it since 2011, even though this is not the case.
/Yeah???
But isn't that Maidan is "CIA plot"??? :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))

\\Like I said above.

Even if it totally opposite???

Eeeeh!!!




\\Look, Ukraine is f*cked,

And why you care????!!!!




\\and WWIII is going to kicked down a VERY LONG ROAD. No one is going to "save you".

You, USA is sitting in a Bull's Eye of WW3 target...

And there is NOBODY... who could save you.

But you still thinking about saving some miserly Ukraine.

How noble and generous of you.

Foolish.

But still noble and generous.

Yawn.




\\If I were you Q, I'd be looking to beat the coming rush to the Polish border and the refugee sorting camps.

:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))0

To be there by the time Russian tanks will be roaming through?

Thank you, but no, thank you.

Go follow yourself your such "bright" plans.

Based on total ignorance and misinformation. ;-P





\\Sorry, the WWIII can will be kicked down a VERY LONG ROAD.

Yeah.

Let grand-children to FIX it...




-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

/I'm glad that you liked my response so much.

One does have to start somewhere... ;)


\\There you have it, the American and British positions. ...
/Whatever.
It not about Ukraine.
As it was not about Poland... in 1939.
Only one thing is for sure -- if Ukraine would fall, next will be less then year.
Actually... it will be simultaneously.
From next month to next half-year/year -- there'd be attack on NATO.
Be ready.
To flee... bu-ga-gah!
Afganistan Retreat, is that how it called in Modern Pentagon Rulebook???!
Only... this time euro-beraucrats will be falling from that C-17s. ;-P


You're right, it's NOT about Ukraine. That's why NATO doesn't join you... we all stand in the back and cheer. It'll make for better Russian films at Cannes in the future.



\\And you are just a minor part of USAs game to "subjugate Rusha".
/ROFL!!!
:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))


I agree. It's been ridiculous from the start.


\\USA is in no hurry.
/Yeah... no need to rush, when you already admitted defeat. ;-P


We won't admit anything. Only Ukraine needs to pay the price. Tomorrow is another day. But think of it this way, you will be prized Russian assets, renowned for your knowledge of CIA procedure and tech. If you kiss their ring, you'll all have long and distinguished careers with the NKVD spying for Russia.


/But... in their case, there was brits and you... to free em.

They were lucky that Japan attacked.


\\...and disturb the markets? G_d forbid! Business must not be perturbed.
/Well... it can start to change registration... into aggressors jurisdiction. ;-P


I'll be long gone before then.


\\There will be no "offenses" from Ukraine this year.
/Ready to bet? How much? ;-P


Offensives. All feints. Booo! To keep the Russians "honest".


/ICBMs are in your direction.

Back atcha!

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

/So??? Who fears who??? ;-P
Your bravado -- is because of your ignorance.
And "those who know better" who are in WH... much more cautious. ;-P


Fortune favours the brave.


\\Lifes of Westerners. USAians too.
\\No, the lives to be frittered are all Ukrainian (and possibly Georgian).
Thrown Tsar Mega-Nuke at Ukraine... or Georgia.
Would be more then madness... it would be suicide.
But... nuking out opposite hemisphere... Russians in Uriupinsk... even would not feel that change in radioactivity levels. ;-P
And that is only your sissy-pussy little ponies... with general's starts and stripes... who was teached to be fearing "radioactive polusion".
Bu-ga-gah! :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))


I'm sure that the West fears "carbon" much more than radiation. Else they wouldn't have feared Russia's oil flooding their "Green Energy" utopia, and given the green light to Ukraine for Maidan.


\\Compelling them to negotiate on Ukrainian terms will be impossible.
/Quite opposite.
Commence operation Iron Dome 2.0.
And they'll start begging "let's be more patient". And even will start wiggling their tails like that puppies.
You really... know ZILCH about psychology. Even to my infinitesimal level of what mentioned in your police series... (facepalm) about all kinds of psychos.


IronDome2 is a moneypit against cheaper hypersonics and decoys.


/Especially those who have close encounters with Russia's military boot... kicking their sore asses.

Better get used to it. You'll be under their heel for a long LONG time. Who knows. Maybe they'll let you get a few kicks in against the West, too. I sure wouldn't blame you.


\\They're behind the NATO shield. They're not very worried.
/Yeah. Like Denmark..
Like Neatherlands...
Like Czechia.
Like Baltic countries.


Until we pull out of NATO, anyways. :)


\\And offensive operations typically need at least a 4-1 local troop advantage.
/BS.


So where's all your "Shock & Awe" tech, otherwise? Still sitting on a 3-D printer in Hong Kong?


\\Ukraine also had that many troops on the lines then. But they're no longer "there". And Russia still has "reserves" to draw on (if needed). Ukraine?
/And your sources???
Ah, yes, Russian propaganda feces pipes. ;-P
While *I*... listen DIRECTLY from their everyday battle reports. ;-)
Their Top Brass missives.


You just read two of them. I may not take their presciption seriously, but I do most, not all, of their facts.


\\Their meat grinder is working. So why change tactics. Tortoise vs. Hare strategy.
/All as planned. :-)))))))))))))))))))
And plan was to put in grave millions of Russians. :-))))))))))))))))))
%-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))


...but not lose millions of Ukrainians in a 1-1 exchange.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\The Hare has learned to run the tortoise's race. Rope-a-Dope. Now you're all "punched out" from Glorious "Ukrainian Offensives". :(
/Glorius indeed.
No USAian, German or puny French trooper... would even leave his barrack.
Just to go out in fields.
Without Air support. Without backup. Outnumbered. Against fortified lines.
And still breaching em... and moving back on big swatches of frontline.


Do they all carry packs of sunflower seeds in their pockets? They're brave sob's, that I grant them. But brave doesn't get you victory against Russia's greater numbers.


\\Still training up the AI, probably. How many of your pilots went through "Top Gun"?
/"Ghost of Kyiv", heard of it? ;-P
Your "top gun" are sissy-pussies in comparation.
And well... you ALWAYS was beat by soviet MiGs... (remember story WHY that "top gun" appeared?)
and who was sitting in their cockpits, ah?


How's he like the F-16? And Top Gun was created because Vietnam era missiles were crap and gun skills were needed. They had a 10:1 kill ratio. My former boss was a West Point grad and ace in Phantoms. His/our boss flew B-52s. That problem's been solved. Does the 'Ghost' like his new HMDS? One of my former "besties" that I went to grad school with used to sell/ market them for Boeing/UTC and the IDF.


\\Most of your air defenses were former Soviet. How were we supposed to "re-stock" it? Buy from Putin? Your whole military needed re-tooling and training with NATO arms.
/Naaah.
That is NATO... that need to be re-stocked and re-trained by Ukrainian standards. ;-)
Remember... your last "success" -- scared fleeing from beardies with AKs.
Only that of Ams who came to Ukraine as volunteers... can be called soldiers trained in modern arms.
All your "high-trained' troopers... are just rookies. ;-P


Sorry, but dropping hand grenades from drones isn't "modern arms". They're like IED's, impromptu desperation measures.


\\Exactly. Scrap doesn't have a logistics chain. You might get a few days use of the gear before it would all be useless scrap in Ukraine, unrepairable. btw - How many F-16 mechanics have you trained?
/What is planned time of tank/plane existing in battle? Minutes? Seconds?


That depends upon which side you're on. In the USN, most of our pilots return to their carriers. That's why they typically have 2 engines, and not the F-16's 1. ;)


\\We can't give you trained mechanics and tooled-up logistical facilities, can we.
/Was you sending ones... when you was sending your Lend-Lease?


Like the "stamped" pistols the allied planes used to drop into occupied France for the Free French fighters?


\\Face it, Ukraine was totally unprepared for a war with Russia.
/And now... put it into context -- that it STILL fighting back. With immense success.
Now... you need to start fearing Ukrainians. "Nazis", or whatever. Bu-ga-gah!


Indeed. They'll all be fighting FOR the Russians in another year.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\Maybe they shouldn't have unleashed their Nazi militia's to poke and humilate Russian civilians in the Luhansk/Donbass.
/Give At Least One Facts, would ya???
Even if from Russian propaganda.
But you would not... because EVEN Russian propagandists knew it being such an UNFEKABLE BS.
That they reduced that only to spreading some fuzzy rumors.


Sorry, but you must have missed all of Putin's casus belli in Feb '22.


\\The Big bear now protects her cubs
/By dropping bombs at it? ;-P


Human shields.


\\Six months until the US election. THAT is the "strategic clarity" that is required. Survive.
/Yeah. War-time propaganda waterfalls.
And maybe some saboteurs.
Spreading "Novichok"???


You want to fight to the last Ukrainian, the Biden Admin thanks you!


\\Please. Zelensky will fly to his new chalet on Lake Geneva this November when Biden loses his re-election.
/Yeah... as radioactive ash. :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))
You didn't heard what destiny latest propaganda "prophesed" to him?
Well... anyway. His Cinderella time ends... like in couple of weeks. ;-P
You... just not paying attention to ANY stone cold facts.


Why should I? It is, as you say, NMB. I need to focus more on Georgia, now.


\\In America, the 18-25 conscript group would have been on the front lines on Day 1.
/In what day and age???
Yawn.


All of them. Most US States lowered the drinking age to 18 during Vietnam because soldiers could "fight" but they couldn't "drink". It's only after the Army went "all volunteer" that the states put the drinking age back up to 21. My dad joined at 17 (parents permission) after his brother was killed (USMC) at Iwo Jima.


\\You really think Ukraine will ever have another election? The Russians will simply appoint Commissars after Zelensky boards his plane to the West.
/Why you asking me? Ask Zelensky.


He's not here, and he'd only lie to me, anyways.


\\Don't blame us, you should have kept your Azov boys on a shorter leash.
/And what about all OTHER volunteers battalions???? ;-P


That's the problem with all militias. They're not usually "well ordered". Especially the ones that roll around in Nazi symbolism.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\You really think any money will actually reach Ukraine's military, and not Zelensky's (and his favorite generals) Swiss bank accounts?
/Russian sweared to bomb out Switzerland too. ;-P
So... in Great Russian World... there'd be only Rubles... which you'd not allowed to have.
And shells.. as currency. ;-P
Get to your roots, Tamani. :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))0


Putin would bomb the banks that his own money is in? Even Hugo Chavez/Nick Maduro aren't THAT stupid.


\\They were. And the $61b merely says, "It was Ukraine's fault, I gave them money..."
/Means... a bribe. ;-P


I'm sure he'll get his "kick-backs" (but maybe through Hunter, like last time).


\\Brain dead Azov idiots playing "Ukraine Nationalist" band songs whilest molesting Russian speaking Ukrainian girls in Donbass.
/Got video? ;-P
While news from frontlines is different.
Just in a few day... Russian soldier have killed Ukrainian girl. After raping her.
But yeah... that's all "ukrainian nazis did it".
Bu-ga-gah!


Naaah. It's 'who' is in "who's territory" that get raped. Like Japanese girls on Okinawa.


\\Hey, the Chinese need some surplus weapons manufacturing operations on-line, too. How else will the retake Taiwan?
/How many Chinese.
And how many USAians???


Most of our "good" chips come from there, so probably more than a few USAians.


\\No, now Russia will be in same status of non-logistics as Ukraine is with "Western" weapon systems. The Chinese are WAY past the old Russian weapons.
/And from what crackpot you taking such such a trash "info"??? %-))))))


The same one who peeks in on the new Chinese aircraft carriers from time to time.


\\It will. So why aren't you sitting at a peace table on back-channel? Waiting for the US election losses in November?
/Why should I care????


Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss...

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\Because... RFia and China ALREADY put such plan in use... about USA.
\\USA won't do anything.
/"Smart" plan. Indeed.


Smart? No. Factual? Yes.


\\Your idiot Goostepping militias in Luhansk/ Donbass. The Russians didn't invade for "no reasons/ Putin crazy".
/Yeah.
They busted their economy.
So... to prevent uprising, and ensure continuation of their rule.
They devised such a NEW plan -- to start "little victorious war".
Remember "Tail wagging dog". ;-P
But... because they are dumb as log. They made it all wrong.
But... paradoxically enough, it still working for them. :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Because their "electorate" is alcohol poisoned. From birth. ;-P


Then Operational Success!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! USA should be so lucky.


\\/BRINGING MOSCOW TO THE TABLE
BRINGING MOSCOW TO A GRAVE
Here... I FIXED it for you, lame "expert", don't thank you me.
\\Those options have been off the table almost from Day 1.
/"If they'll be living, while I'm don't... I would be living too"??? %-)))))))


Tri-Solarian motto!


\\"Don't Bogart that joint, my friend, pass it over to me." In other words: Your "jouissance" conspires to shade your rational mind.
/Dunno what you mean.


You're trapped in a foggy cloud of ideolocal wishful thinking.


\\Washington will not be present at Ukraine's surrender table. They'll be having cocktails in Georgetown planning their next Russia Test.
/This too.


They don't call it "careerism" for nothing.


\\"Either YOU, nasty West, Satanists, Heathens, Scum of the Earth... agree to ALL our demands, and start begging on your knees to spare your miserly butts... OR ELSE!!!!"
\\Actually, what he says is true. That should be an indicator to you how "bad" the peace will be. Ukraine will be castrated for at least 50 years.
And not USA??? %-))))))))))))))))))))))))0


Please. When was the last time anyone in DC was ever held accountable?

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\Not unless he wins come November. And even then, he'll avoid any escalation with Russia (except through other proxies like Georgia).
/Means... continue playing Chamberlain.
Well, yeah... and when Chamberlain was ousted???
Ah, yes,
""
Following the invasion of Poland on 1 September 1939, which marked the beginning of the Second World War, Chamberlain announced the declaration of war on Germany two days later and led the United Kingdom through the first eight months of the war until his resignation as prime minister on 10 May 1940.
""


America has no Churchills. It's Chamberlain forever now.


\\Germany needs oil. It's economy is dead in the water.
/Yeah.
Same as it was in 1944. ;-P


Except now it just buys it on the black market like France did throughout Desert Shield & Storm.


\\Sanctions don't work over short-terms. Especially since we've made avoiding and evading them easy. Europe doesn't want "sanctions".
/And that's why made 14th round of em.
Oh, yes. %-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))


Only to usher in a new era of CBDCs. The "tech" saviour you so love to praise.


\\Russia has made Putin more powerful than ever.
/Like in time of Prigojin's March???
Naaah.
That is Washington... that holding his ass. And protecting its back.
Like with admitting him being prez... today was "inauguration", of you dunno even such trivia.
Russia... it's asset of your Deep State, got it?
And their plan -- to instantiate it into Cold War 2.0, safely. It seems.
But... there's China. ;-P


Prigojin's March? Russian-American PsyOps. "Look it worked, he's marching on Moscow!!!!"


\\The 'threat' of Russian disinformation is merely a tool used by the USIC to censor and deplatform American nationalists that could challenge the globalists and also allow the Counter-Intelligence forces to rig the election for Biden.
/Yeah... that's what Matrix made you to think, Neo.


You don't know the 1st Amendment, Q.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\\\Moreover, the Kremlin has long assumed that the West has pursued extensive information operations against it since 2011, even though this is not the case.
/Yeah???
But isn't that Maidan is "CIA plot"??? :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))
\\Like I said above.
Even if it totally opposite???
Eeeeh!!!


Russia picked the post-Maidan Ukrainian administration???? A-Y-E-E-A-G-H!


\\Look, Ukraine is f*cked,
/And why you care????!!!!


Personally? Cuz I'm out $200b and the last $61b went in to trying to catch a falling knife (stock investing metaphor). All that remains is to watch Schrodinger's dead cat, bounce 9stock investing metaphor with Stockholm physics thrown in).


\\and WWIII is going to kicked down a VERY LONG ROAD. No one is going to "save you".
/You, USA is sitting in a Bull's Eye of WW3 target...
And there is NOBODY... who could save you.
But you still thinking about saving some miserly Ukraine.
How noble and generous of you.
Foolish.
But still noble and generous.
Yawn.


Least I won't die blowing some pencil-dicked Russian grunt in a muddy Ukrainian trench.


\\If I were you Q, I'd be looking to beat the coming rush to the Polish border and the refugee sorting camps.
/:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))0
To be there by the time Russian tanks will be roaming through?
Thank you, but no, thank you.
Go follow yourself your such "bright" plans.
Based on total ignorance and misinformation. ;-P


At least practice some pole-vaulting for the fence jump into no-man's land..


\\Sorry, the WWIII can will be kicked down a VERY LONG ROAD.
/Yeah.
Let grand-children to FIX it...


Now you're starting to think like a US Civil Servant!

Anonymous said...

\\One does have to start somewhere... ;)

Sorry. :-(

Not got it.


\\You're right, it's NOT about Ukraine. That's why NATO doesn't join you... we all stand in the back and cheer. It'll make for better Russian films at Cannes in the future.

Yawn.

Go connect with some FSB officer.

That way you'd be able to receive some money for such other way absolutely empty and useless screeds. ;-P




\\\\And you are just a minor part of USAs game to "subjugate Rusha".
/ROFL!!!
:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

\\I agree. It's been ridiculous from the start.

Yeah. From time USA moronicly declared "defeating" USSR. ;-P

Or... that was "winning WW2". ;-P



\\We won't admit anything. Only Ukraine needs to pay the price.

Yeah... and that was NOT Congress of USA that battled over $60 billions... for HALF year.




\\ But think of it this way, you will be prized Russian assets, renowned for your knowledge of CIA procedure and tech. If you kiss their ring, you'll all have long and distinguished careers with the NKVD spying for Russia.

Antipode's Effect. AGAIN!

That is sounds... as if I start talking about Royal Minutemen... with feathers stuck into their heads... while riding dinosaurs.

And claim that it sure thing what happens in USA. ;-P




\\/ICBMs are in your direction.

\\Back atcha!

They... don't fear it. Because they have "Dead man hand". ;-P



\\Fortune favours the brave.

...and stupid?



\\I'm sure that the West fears "carbon" much more than radiation. Else they wouldn't have feared Russia's oil flooding their "Green Energy" utopia, and given the green light to Ukraine for Maidan.

Yea...



\\Better get used to it. You'll be under their heel for a long LONG time. Who knows. Maybe they'll let you get a few kicks in against the West, too. I sure wouldn't blame you.

Yea... and Royal Minutemen riding mammoths. ;-P

SOON will go downhill... from the edge of the World, and will conquer it ALL!!! :-)))))))))



Anonymous said...


\\Until we pull out of NATO, anyways. :)

You and your dogs and cats?

I know USAians like to declare such BS things.




\\So where's all your "Shock & Awe" tech, otherwise? Still sitting on a 3-D printer in Hong Kong?

And where's yours???

Where's your "bang for a buck", ummm???




\\You just read two of them. I may not take their presciption seriously, but I do most, not all, of their facts.

And??? How many "ukrainian nazis" they bragged killing yesterday? Last week? Last month? ;-P




\\...but not lose millions of Ukrainians in a 1-1 exchange.

???




\\But brave doesn't get you victory against Russia's greater numbers.

"greater numbers"???

With demographic decline. And whining about not enough workers ALREADY.




\\That problem's been solved.

Yeah. With "when war will start... we'll just not go to that war ;-P" strategy. %-))))))))))

And that way neither our tanks nor planes will be shot.




\\Sorry, but dropping hand grenades from drones isn't "modern arms". They're like IED's, impromptu desperation measures.

Oh, yes. War... is not about operational success.

It's about soldiers going in a neat tight marching raws... going on machine guns. %-)))))))))



\\That depends upon which side you're on. In the USN, most of our pilots return to their carriers. That's why they typically have 2 engines, and not the F-16's 1. ;)

Yeah. Because of genius tactic "if there'd be a war... we'll not come to it". ;-P





\\\\We can't give you trained mechanics and tooled-up logistical facilities, can we.
/Was you sending ones... when you was sending your Lend-Lease?

\\Like the "stamped" pistols the allied planes used to drop into occupied France for the Free French fighters?

In total, the U.S. deliveries to the USSR through Lend-Lease amounted to $11 billion in materials (equivalent to $148 billion in 2023):[56] over 400,000 jeeps and trucks; 12,000 armored vehicles (including 7,000 tanks, about 1,386[57] of which were M3 Lees and 4,102 M4 Shermans);[58] 11,400 aircraft (of which 4,719 were Bell P-39 Airacobras, 3,414 were Douglas A-20 Havocs and 2,397 were Bell P-63 Kingcobras)[59] and 1.75 million tons of food.[60]

Roughly 17.5 million tons of military equipment, vehicles, industrial supplies, and food were shipped from the Western Hemisphere to the USSR, 94% coming from the US. For comparison, a total of 22 million tons landed in Europe to supply American forces from January 1942 to May 1945.


Yawn.

You just dunno even trivia.

And you trying to impress me??? :-))))))

But... continue-continue...




\\Indeed. They'll all be fighting FOR the Russians in another year.

And Royal Minutemen will be eating watermelons and kick ass of Uncle Tom. ;-P





Anonymous said...

\\Sorry, but you must have missed all of Putin's casus belli in Feb '22.

And you just dunno trivia -- about liliPut terms of surrender of NATO in Dec '21.

Yawn.


Vladimir Putin's December 2021 ultimatum
Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › V...
The ultimatum outlined Russia's demands and expectations regarding the security situation in Europe, especially in relation to the ongoing conflict in Ukraine ...

What you trying to *impress* me with, HERE????

With not based on ANY facts babbling??? %-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))




\\\\The Big bear now protects her cubs
/By dropping bombs at it? ;-P

\\Human shields.

Yeah.

"Mother Bear" "protects" its cubs... with dropping stones at they head... Eeeeeh?????

Even your allegories... grossly inconsistent.




\\You want to fight to the last Ukrainian, the Biden Admin thanks you!

Royal Minutmen... do sitting dance! And sing Kalinka-Malinka!!!




\\Why should I? It is, as you say, NMB. I need to focus more on Georgia, now.

Eeeeeeeh????!

Well, whatever.

Smart dudes able to extract meaning even from ... mummbling.

Continue-continue...




\\\\In America, the 18-25 conscript group would have been on the front lines on Day 1.
/In what day and age???
Yawn.

\\All of them. Most US States lowered the drinking age to 18 during Vietnam because soldiers could "fight" but they couldn't "drink". It's only after the Army went "all volunteer" that the states put the drinking age back up to 21. My dad joined at 17 (parents permission) after his brother was killed (USMC) at Iwo Jima.

Think that's possible TODAY???




\\That's the problem with all militias. They're not usually "well ordered". Especially the ones that roll around in Nazi symbolism.

Royal Minutmen... eat from knifes and drink bulls piss.




\\Putin would bomb the banks that his own money is in? Even Hugo Chavez/Nick Maduro aren't THAT stupid.

To make his Rubles World Wide currency????

And stop all and any sanctions???

Because he wants to be Master of the Whole World????




\\Naaah. It's 'who' is in "who's territory" that get raped. Like Japanese girls on Okinawa.

Yeah. And nazis was raping own nazi girls...

because, "that's what nazi do".

Yawn.




\\The same one who peeks in on the new Chinese aircraft carriers from time to time.

Yeah. China propaganda to boot. ;-P





\\\\It will. So why aren't you sitting at a peace table on back-channel? Waiting for the US election losses in November?
/Why should I care????

\\Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss...

Why. Should. I. Care?????





\\\\Because... RFia and China ALREADY put such plan in use... about USA.
\\USA won't do anything.
/"Smart" plan. Indeed.

\\Smart? No. Factual? Yes.

While fighting for a sweaty battles in Congress... about how to "not do anything". :-)))))))))))))))))))

Quite a workout... for "doing nothing". %-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))




\\USA should be so lucky.

Until it not.

Lady Luck... is so frivolous and unstable. ;-P




\\Tri-Solarian motto!

First Borgs. Now this.

"Dreaming mind creates monsters".

Yawn.




\\You're trapped in a foggy cloud of ideolocal wishful thinking.

I???




\\Please. When was the last time anyone in DC was ever held accountable?

There is time to collect stones. There is time to throw stones...









Anonymous said...

\\America has no Churchills. It's Chamberlain forever now.

My condolence.



\\Prigojin's March? Russian-American PsyOps. "Look it worked, he's marching on Moscow!!!!"

Pft!

Yet one Antipode's Overview?





\\You don't know the 1st Amendment, Q.

And why should I???




\\Russia picked the post-Maidan Ukrainian administration???? A-Y-E-E-A-G-H!

????

And not Ukrainians themself???




\\Personally? Cuz I'm out $200b and the last $61b went in to trying to catch a falling knife (stock investing metaphor).

Well... it could be cheaper. If Ukraine was taken into NATO.

USA made blunder and need pay more to fix it.

But... it paying not enpough, and making BIGGER blunder.

So... it will be paying MORE -- trillions as for WW3 preparations.

And if it'll bust it too...

well, there'd be pay day in millions... of lifes. :-((((((((

Time tells no lies.



\\Least I won't die blowing some pencil-dicked Russian grunt in a muddy Ukrainian trench.

Yeah... "Poseidon"s. ;-P




\\Now you're starting to think like a US Civil Servant!

Soviet Union invented it BEFORE you. ;-P



-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\One does have to start somewhere... ;)
/Sorry. :-(
Not got it.


A common text from which to misunderstand and argue.


\\You're right, it's NOT about Ukraine. That's why NATO doesn't join you... we all stand in the back and cheer. It'll make for better Russian films at Cannes in the future.
/Yawn.
Go connect with some FSB officer.
That way you'd be able to receive some money for such other way absolutely empty and useless screeds. ;-P


What makes you think I haven't? ;)


\\\\And you are just a minor part of USAs game to "subjugate Rusha".
/ROFL!!!
:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
\\I agree. It's been ridiculous from the start.
/Yeah. From time USA moronicly declared "defeating" USSR. ;-P
Or... that was "winning WW2". ;-P


...or that the Cold war ended...


\\We won't admit anything. Only Ukraine needs to pay the price.
/Yeah... and that was NOT Congress of USA that battled over $60 billions... for HALF year.


The battle was over border funding. We lost the hostage (Ukraine) to the Neocons/ UniParty.


\\ But think of it this way, you will be prized Russian assets, renowned for your knowledge of CIA procedure and tech. If you kiss their ring, you'll all have long and distinguished careers with the NKVD spying for Russia.
/Antipode's Effect. AGAIN!
That is sounds... as if I start talking about Royal Minutemen... with feathers stuck into their heads... while riding dinosaurs.
And claim that it sure thing what happens in USA. ;-P


We'll you can play the double agent for the CIA then, like the Nazi collaborators after WWII.


\\/ICBMs are in your direction.
\\Back atcha!
/They... don't fear it. Because they have "Dead man hand". ;-P


Aces and Eights.


\\Fortune favours the brave.
/...and stupid?


...only if they lose.


\\I'm sure that the West fears "carbon" much more than radiation. Else they wouldn't have feared Russia's oil flooding their "Green Energy" utopia, and given the green light to Ukraine for Maidan.
/Yea...


Carbon:Bad::Rusha:Bad


\\Better get used to it. You'll be under their heel for a long LONG time. Who knows. Maybe they'll let you get a few kicks in against the West, too. I sure wouldn't blame you.
/Yea... and Royal Minutemen riding mammoths. ;-P
SOON will go downhill... from the edge of the World, and will conquer it ALL!!! :-)))))))))


You're Mother must have smothered you in Fairy Tales and Bedtime Stories.


\\Until we pull out of NATO, anyways. :)
/You and your dogs and cats?
I know USAians like to declare such BS things.


Multipolarity demands rearranged alliances.


\\So where's all your "Shock & Awe" tech, otherwise? Still sitting on a 3-D printer in Hong Kong?
/And where's yours???
Where's your "bang for a buck", ummm???


Ours is in the US, where it belongs. Like Rusha, we only "export" the obsolete sh*t we can defeat. You're welcome.

And there is no "bang for a buck". THAT has been "regulated OUT of our neoliberal economic system through a corporate-government "alliance".

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\You just read two of them. I may not take their presciption seriously, but I do most, not all, of their facts.
/And??? How many "ukrainian nazis" they bragged killing yesterday? Last week? Last month? ;-P


Did you read about that in either of the two pieces? If you had, you'd "know".


\\...but not lose millions of Ukrainians in a 1-1 exchange.
/???


What's you Russia:Ukrainian kill ratio?


\\But brave doesn't get you victory against Russia's greater numbers.
/"greater numbers"???
With demographic decline. And whining about not enough workers ALREADY.


The population starting point was 4:1. If your kill ration is LESS then that, you'll LOSE a war of attrition (the one you're in).


\\That problem's been solved.
/Yeah. With "when war will start... we'll just not go to that war ;-P" strategy. %-))))))))))
And that way neither our tanks nor planes will be shot.


Shock & Awe... America's war without war (only enemies [or allies] die). And then, usually watched on a drone-command screen outside Las Vegas.


\\Sorry, but dropping hand grenades from drones isn't "modern arms". They're like IED's, impromptu desperation measures.
/Oh, yes. War... is not about operational success.
It's about soldiers going in a neat tight marching raws... going on machine guns. %-)))))))))


I hear that in WWI they used to let the allied balloons float over the German treanches and after taking photos, release small bombs. How 'modern', huh?


\\That depends upon which side you're on. In the USN, most of our pilots return to their carriers. That's why they typically have 2 engines, and not the F-16's 1. ;)
/Yeah. Because of genius tactic "if there'd be a war... we'll not come to it". ;-P


America's motto: "When the going get's tough, everyone leaves." We learned that from the British, who learned it from the Greeks. If we're outnumbered, run back to the ship! Or in the case of Kabul, the cargo planes.


\\\\We can't give you trained mechanics and tooled-up logistical facilities, can we.
/Was you sending ones... when you was sending your Lend-Lease?
\\Like the "stamped" pistols the allied planes used to drop into occupied France for the Free French fighters?
/In total, the U.S. deliveries to the USSR through Lend-Lease amounted to $11 billion in materials (equivalent to $148 billion in 2023):[56] over 400,000 jeeps and trucks; 12,000 armored vehicles (including 7,000 tanks, about 1,386[57] of which were M3 Lees and 4,102 M4 Shermans);[58] 11,400 aircraft (of which 4,719 were Bell P-39 Airacobras, 3,414 were Douglas A-20 Havocs and 2,397 were Bell P-63 Kingcobras)[59] and 1.75 million tons of food.[60]
Roughly 17.5 million tons of military equipment, vehicles, industrial supplies, and food were shipped from the Western Hemisphere to the USSR, 94% coming from the US. For comparison, a total of 22 million tons landed in Europe to supply American forces from January 1942 to May 1945.
Yawn.
You just dunno even trivia.
And you trying to impress me??? :-))))))
But... continue-continue...


I had a professor that was on PQ-17. The Academy I went to lost 142 students to U-boats, the only federal academy granted a battle standard. Did you read your post? "Industrial supplies". What do you suppose those were? Think we abandoned every Sherman that threw a track on the battlefield? Every Cobra that got a flat on landing was stripped for parts?

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\Indeed. They'll all be fighting FOR the Russians in another year.
/And Royal Minutemen will be eating watermelons and kick ass of Uncle Tom. ;-P


Best start preparing for those eventualities now. Time to dust off your resume. When was the last time you sat for a job interview?


\\Sorry, but you must have missed all of Putin's casus belli in Feb '22.
/And you just dunno trivia -- about liliPut terms of surrender of NATO in Dec '21.
Yawn.
Vladimir Putin's December 2021 ultimatum
Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › V...
The ultimatum outlined Russia's demands and expectations regarding the security situation in Europe, especially in relation to the ongoing conflict in Ukraine ...
What you trying to *impress* me with, HERE????
With not based on ANY facts babbling??? %-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))


After 6-7 of fighting (post-Maidan) in Luhansk/Donbass? You should have settled instead of letting the Azov boys run wild terrorizing Russian ex-nationals.


\\\\The Big bear now protects her cubs
/By dropping bombs at it? ;-P
\\Human shields.
/Yeah.
"Mother Bear" "protects" its cubs... with dropping stones at they head... Eeeeeh?????
Even your allegories... grossly inconsistent.


Collatoral damage. Fight a war without it.


\\You want to fight to the last Ukrainian, the Biden Admin thanks you!
/Royal Minutmen... do sitting dance! And sing Kalinka-Malinka!!!


The bravery and loyalty of the extinct Ukrainians will be duly noted in our history books alongside with the 300 Spartans and the Theban Sacred Band.


\\Why should I? It is, as you say, NMB. I need to focus more on Georgia, now.
/Eeeeeeeh????!
Well, whatever.
Smart dudes able to extract meaning even from ... mummbling.
Continue-continue...


Ukraine isn't even in the headlines anymore. It's all Israel and Palestine protests. The $61b "solved" the Ukraine problem. It's one of Biden's great "accomplishments" for the Campaign.


\\\\In America, the 18-25 conscript group would have been on the front lines on Day 1.
/In what day and age???
Yawn.
\\All of them. Most US States lowered the drinking age to 18 during Vietnam because soldiers could "fight" but they couldn't "drink". It's only after the Army went "all volunteer" that the states put the drinking age back up to 21. My dad joined at 17 (parents permission) after his brother was killed (USMC) at Iwo Jima.
Think that's possible TODAY???


Today and every day. 17 year olds still enlist with parental permission. 18 year olds can do so on their own. What we no longer do is "conscript" them, although they must ALL register for the draft. Most volunteers accepted (unless IQ below 83). I was 22 when I graduated from the Academy and gained my commission in the USNR, but swore my oath at 18 and sailed into potential conflict zones. My older brother (Class of '73) delivered supplies to Saigon during the Vietnam War. He was 19.


\\That's the problem with all militias. They're not usually "well ordered". Especially the ones that roll around in Nazi symbolism.
/Royal Minutmen... eat from knifes and drink bulls piss.


Do they play mumblety-peg, too?

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\Putin would bomb the banks that his own money is in? Even Hugo Chavez/Nick Maduro aren't THAT stupid.
/To make his Rubles World Wide currency????
And stop all and any sanctions???
Because he wants to be Master of the Whole World????


So where are Putin's daughters today? Do they shop at Herrod's? How about his ex-wife? Hugo Chavez's daughter is one of the richest in Venezuela. Think that Putin not a "provider" for his family?


\\Naaah. It's 'who' is in "who's territory" that get raped. Like Japanese girls on Okinawa.
/Yeah. And nazis was raping own nazi girls...
because, "that's what nazi do".
Yawn.


Naaah. All true Nazi girls LIKE it. ;)


\\The same one who peeks in on the new Chinese aircraft carriers from time to time.
/Yeah. China propaganda to boot. ;-P


Yep... sorta?


\\\\It will. So why aren't you sitting at a peace table on back-channel? Waiting for the US election losses in November?
/Why should I care????
\\Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss...
/Why. Should. I. Care?????


The new one's (Putin) "to die for"....?


\\\\Because... RFia and China ALREADY put such plan in use... about USA.
\\USA won't do anything.
/"Smart" plan. Indeed.
\\Smart? No. Factual? Yes.
While fighting for a sweaty battles in Congress... about how to "not do anything". :-)))))))))))))))))))
Quite a workout... for "doing nothing". %-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))


Theatre. Corporate lobbyists (from J/K Streets in DC) write all the laws now. Government bureaucrats then write all the minor "Regulations" to meet them.


\\USA should be so lucky.
/Until it not.
Lady Luck... is so frivolous and unstable. ;-P


Yep. She was no Lady from Kyiv, that's for sure. :(


\\Tri-Solarian motto!
/First Borgs. Now this.
"Dreaming mind creates monsters".
Yawn.


The Awakened mind stares into the abyss.


\\You're trapped in a foggy cloud of ideolocal wishful thinking.
/I???


You're the one that must lay down next to Putin every night, not me.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\Please. When was the last time anyone in DC was ever held accountable?
/There is time to collect stones. There is time to throw stones...


...and a time to wear a cheaper watch. ;)


\\America has no Churchills. It's Chamberlain forever now.
/My condolence.


It is what it is. Like Idiocracy.


\\Prigojin's March? Russian-American PsyOps. "Look it worked, he's marching on Moscow!!!!"
/Pft!
Yet one Antipode's Overview?


CIA (& Ukraine intelligence) actually believed that they had bought him off 'R' in "RICE". They missed the 'I'.


\\You don't know the 1st Amendment, Q.
/And why should I???


It's become only a piece of paper, recently.


\\Russia picked the post-Maidan Ukrainian administration???? A-Y-E-E-A-G-H!
/????
And not Ukrainians themself???


The candidates? When were the "primaries" held? On the phone with Victoria Nuland?


\\Personally? Cuz I'm out $200b and the last $61b went in to trying to catch a falling knife (stock investing metaphor).
/Well... it could be cheaper. If Ukraine was taken into NATO.
USA made blunder and need pay more to fix it.
But... it paying not enpough, and making BIGGER blunder.
So... it will be paying MORE -- trillions as for WW3 preparations.
And if it'll bust it too...
well, there'd be pay day in millions... of lifes. :-((((((((
Time tells no lies.


The blunder was not cutting losses in 2014. Instead of 2025.


\\Least I won't die blowing some pencil-dicked Russian grunt in a muddy Ukrainian trench.
/Yeah... "Poseidon"s. ;-P


There are worse ways to go...


\\Now you're starting to think like a US Civil Servant!
/Soviet Union invented it BEFORE you. ;-P


Yeah, they could probably give our guys a few lessons in lower-level graft. Ours is mostly at the higher levels today. It hasn't worked its' way all the way down the ranks.

Anonymous said...

\\What makes you think I haven't? ;)

Trying to insult my intelligence? ;-P




\\The battle was over border funding.

And how much of that border funding was snatched? ;-P

Or that is... freakingly like that phrase of yours: "To snatch defeat out of claws of Victory (bird, I suppose)" -- was whole goal??? ;-P



\\Aces and Eights.

Up in their sleaves?




\\Carbon:Bad::Rusha:Bad

For at least... it consistent. ;-P

Like "do not drink from toilet tube... there's no e-le-c-tro-lites".




\\You're Mother must have smothered you in Fairy Tales and Bedtime Stories.

What do you say... that is what I know for sure. From only true socnet sources. ;-P

That Earth is flat. Moon made of cheese. And there is Gawd in the skyes. :-)))))))

100% correct and truthful info.




\\Ours is in the US, where it belongs.

Yep.

I saw fotos... of that vast scrapyards. ;-P





\\Did you read about that in either of the two pieces? If you had, you'd "know".

That's direct sources. In Russian.




\\What's you Russia:Ukrainian kill ratio?

Dig it yourself. ;-P

Because... as we "agreed".

Whatever info I would provide, you'd be dismissing it as "ideological".




\\The population starting point was 4:1. If your kill ration is LESS then that, you'll LOSE a war of attrition (the one you're in).

So... that mean that Russia winning??? :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

And what is usual amount of loses of defending/offensiving side? ;-P

You trying to play strategist card -- then you need to show knowing at least such trivia. ;-)




\\I had a professor that was on PQ-17. The Academy I went to lost 142 students to U-boats, the only federal academy granted a battle standard. Did you read your post? "Industrial supplies". What do you suppose those were? Think we abandoned every Sherman that threw a track on the battlefield? Every Cobra that got a flat on landing was stripped for parts?

How much time that Shermans or Cobras... was living in battle?

How many and what spare parts you provided... you can dig for such details yourself.

My point was apparent -- THAT time, you was not using such a lame excuses.

And it -- WORKED!

Yawn.




\\When was the last time you sat for a job interview?

Well???

Ad hominem?



\\After 6-7 of fighting (post-Maidan) in Luhansk/Donbass? You should have settled instead of letting the Azov boys run wild terrorizing Russian ex-nationals.

You dunno trivia. Yawn

It was founded in May 2014 as the Azov Battalion (Ukrainian: батальйон «Азов», romanized: Batalion "Azov"), a self-funded volunteer militia under the command of Andriy Biletsky, to fight Russian-backed forces in the Donbas War.

Azov Brigade - Wikipedia
Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Azov_Brigade

Means.

AFTER all Maidan-related brawls have long as ended... and OPEN RFia's intervention started.

Annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation
Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Annexation_of_Crime...
In February and March 2014, Russia invaded the Crimean Peninsula, part of Ukraine, and then annexed it. This took place in the relative power vacuum ...
‎International reactions · ‎Sergey Aksyonov · ‎Aleksei Chaly · ‎Refat Chubarov


They... separated in MONTH of time, for at least.

NOT impressive. :-(((((





\\Collatoral damage. Fight a war without it.

Even if that was DELIBERATE.

With Russians themself ADMITTING that????

NOT impressive!

Go receive some good "metodichka" from your FSB mentor. ;-P



\\The bravery and loyalty of the extinct Ukrainians will be duly noted in our history books alongside with the 300 Spartans and the Theban Sacred Band.

Alongside with Royal Minutmen??? ;-P

To give base for Harry or William to became King of USA??? :-)))))))))))))))))

Anonymous said...

\\So where are Putin's daughters today?

There where Dugin's one. ;-P



\\Think that Putin not a "provider" for his family?

You think he cares???

You think he is alive... to care??? :-)))))))))))))))

Remember??? "Kagemusha". ;-P




\\Yep... sorta?

Mother of (useful) idiots -- always pregnant.




\\Theatre.

Even in theatre... there is back-stage. There is director. There is one who giving paychecks. ;-P




\\ Lady from Kyiv,

Jealous?




\\You're the one that must lay down next to Putin every night, not me.

:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))




\\It is what it is. Like Idiocracy.

Yeah.

Because... there's no NEW techs. ;-P




\\CIA (& Ukraine intelligence) actually believed that they had bought him off 'R' in "RICE". They missed the 'I'.

:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))




\\\\You don't know the 1st Amendment, Q.
/And why should I???

\\It's become only a piece of paper, recently.

Even more so...





\\The candidates? When were the "primaries" held? On the phone with Victoria Nuland?

Everybody have SAME election laws. And they are the same as in USA??? :-))))




\\There are worse ways to go...

Yeah. To be defeated in your mind.

Yawn.












-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\What makes you think I haven't? ;)
/Trying to insult my intelligence? ;-P


Nope, just trying to get you to acknowledge the power of RICE's 'I'deology.


\\The battle was over border funding.
/And how much of that border funding was snatched? ;-P
Or that is... freakingly like that phrase of yours: "To snatch defeat out of claws of Victory (bird, I suppose)" -- was whole goal??? ;-P


It was probably less than $20b in "government" funding (for finishing wall) and hundreds of $billions in added labour costs to US corporations.


\\Aces and Eights.
/Up in their sleaves?


Not necessarily.


\\Carbon:Bad::Rusha:Bad
/For at least... it consistent. ;-P
Like "do not drink from toilet tube... there's no e-le-c-tro-lites".


;) "Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds." - RW Emerson


\\You're Mother must have smothered you in Fairy Tales and Bedtime Stories.
/What do you say... that is what I know for sure. From only true socnet sources. ;-P
That Earth is flat. Moon made of cheese. And there is Gawd in the skyes. :-)))))))
100% correct and truthful info.


...from a certain point of view (hysterical).


\\Ours is in the US, where it belongs.
/Yep.
I saw fotos... of that vast scrapyards. ;-P


So if you ever need any spares, you can rely upon us to sell them to you.



\\Did you read about that in either of the two pieces? If you had, you'd "know".
/That's direct sources. In Russian.


And mine were US/UK.


\\What's you Russia:Ukrainian kill ratio?
/Dig it yourself. ;-P
Because... as we "agreed".
Whatever info I would provide, you'd be dismissing it as "ideological".


And all of mine, Russia propaganda. But the formula is useful all by itself.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\The population starting point was 4:1. If your kill ration is LESS then that, you'll LOSE a war of attrition (the one you're in).
/So... that mean that Russia winning??? :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
And what is usual amount of loses of defending/offensiving side? ;-P
You trying to play strategist card -- then you need to show knowing at least such trivia. ;-)


It shows that at the outset of the conflict, Russia had the capacity to win, while the hopes for any Ukrainian "offensives" were always JUST that, "hopes".


\\I had a professor that was on PQ-17. The Academy I went to lost 142 students to U-boats, the only federal academy granted a battle standard. Did you read your post? "Industrial supplies". What do you suppose those were? Think we abandoned every Sherman that threw a track on the battlefield? Every Cobra that got a flat on landing was stripped for parts?
/How much time that Shermans or Cobras... was living in battle?
How many and what spare parts you provided... you can dig for such details yourself.
My point was apparent -- THAT time, you was not using such a lame excuses.
And it -- WORKED!
Yawn.


And at THAT time, US was at war. Not like now (only foolish proxies unable to "order" their own militias). ;)


\\When was the last time you sat for a job interview?
/Well???
Ad hominem?


Scout motto: "Be Prepared!"


\\After 6-7 of fighting (post-Maidan) in Luhansk/Donbass? You should have settled instead of letting the Azov boys run wild terrorizing Russian ex-nationals.
/You dunno trivia. Yawn
It was founded in May 2014 as the Azov Battalion (Ukrainian: батальйон «Азов», romanized: Batalion "Azov"), a self-funded volunteer militia under the command of Andriy Biletsky, to fight Russian-backed forces in the Donbas War.
Azov Brigade - Wikipedia
Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Azov_Brigade
Means.
AFTER all Maidan-related brawls have long as ended... and OPEN RFia's intervention started.
Annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation
Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Annexation_of_Crime...
In February and March 2014, Russia invaded the Crimean Peninsula, part of Ukraine, and then annexed it. This took place in the relative power vacuum ...
‎International reactions · ‎Sergey Aksyonov · ‎Aleksei Chaly · ‎Refat Chubarov


Ahem. Wiki: In 2010, Biletsky reportedly said that the Ukrainian nation's mission is to "lead the white races of the world in a final crusade...against Semite-led Untermenschen".[41][42][43] Biletsky denied ever making such remarks.[44]

In a 2007 article, Biletsky stated that "Ukrainian racial social-nationalism" was the ideology of Patriot of Ukraine.[45] During his speech at a 2009 general meeting of the party he said: "How then can we describe our enemy? The general regime in power are oligarchs. Is there anything they have in common? Yes, one thing in common – they are Jews, or their true bosses – Jews – are behind them. Out of one hundred published richest people in Ukraine 92 are Jews, and some others of Tatar origin".[46]

Until 2011 Biletsky was in favour of forming a confederation between Russia and Ukraine, with Kyiv as its capital, according to BBC News Ukrainian.[47]

In 2013 he wrote a brochure called The Word of the White Leader («Слово білого вождя»).[48] The BBC in 2014[49] and The Moscow Times[50] in 2015 described Biletsky as a white supremacist. In 2014, he was accused of being an "actual neo-Nazi" by sociologist Volodymyr Ishchenko because of his involvement in Patriot of Ukraine and Azov.[51]

In 2018, The Guardian reported that Biletsky "has toned down his rhetoric in recent years".[43]



/They... separated in MONTH of time, for at least.
NOT impressive. :-(((((


He "got religion" in 2014? Or 'before'?

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\Collatoral damage. Fight a war without it.
/Even if that was DELIBERATE.
With Russians themself ADMITTING that????
NOT impressive!
Go receive some good "metodichka" from your FSB mentor. ;-P


What's the going rate for 'good' propaganda? Same as for 'bad'?


\\The bravery and loyalty of the extinct Ukrainians will be duly noted in our history books alongside with the 300 Spartans and the Theban Sacred Band.
/Alongside with Royal Minutmen??? ;-P
To give base for Harry or William to became King of USA??? :-)))))))))))))))))


I can't WAIT! The British ReConquista!


\\So where are Putin's daughters today?
/There where Dugin's one. ;-P


Naaah. On Vacay in London or Geneva, most likely. Shopping with Zelensky's wife.


\\Think that Putin not a "provider" for his family?
/You think he cares???
You think he is alive... to care??? :-)))))))))))))))
Remember??? "Kagemusha". ;-P


Wishful thinking. Such is the bane of the ideologue. His дитяча соска fetish of surplus jouissance.


\\Yep... sorta?
/Mother of (useful) idiots -- always pregnant.


Naaah. Just a 'useless' idiot not willing to become 'useful'.


\\Theatre.
/Even in theatre... there is back-stage. There is director. There is one who giving paychecks. ;-P


Indeed. The J/K Street lobbyists who 'finance' their campaigns.


\\ Lady from Kyiv,
/Jealous?


Naaaah. I've got one from Long Island.


\\You're the one that must lay down next to Putin every night, not me.
/:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))


Yeah, you needn't worry. He's got a pretty full harem. Your turn in the barrel won't be for another week!


\\It is what it is. Like Idiocracy.
/Yeah.
Because... there's no NEW techs. ;-P


You can decant children like in Huxley's "Brave New World"? Don't forget to contaminate some batches to serve the eastern front.


\\CIA (& Ukraine intelligence) actually believed that they had bought him off 'R' in "RICE". They missed the 'I'.
:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))


Fail again. Fail better!


\\\\You don't know the 1st Amendment, Q.
/And why should I???
\\It's become only a piece of paper, recently.
/Even more so...


More a message regarding the limits of blind loyalty to a cause.


\\The candidates? When were the "primaries" held? On the phone with Victoria Nuland?
/Everybody have SAME election laws. And they are the same as in USA??? :-))))


Coke or Pepsi? It's a "free" choice. The water is also poison. Plants all Drink Bwando.


\\There are worse ways to go...
/Yeah. To be defeated in your mind.
Yawn.


Exactly. So fail. Fail better. Unitl there's no more "next times".

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

...suck that "baby pacifier" of surplus jouissance as hard as you can, for as long as your can.

Anonymous said...

\\Nope, just trying to get you to acknowledge the power of RICE's 'I'deology.

Yap.

Trying to insult my intelligence.




\\It was probably less than $20b in "government" funding (for finishing wall) and hundreds of $billions in added labour costs to US corporations.

I heard nothing like that in news...

but, I'm not very interested in it, so...




\\;) "Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds." - RW Emerson

Well...




\\So if you ever need any spares, you can rely upon us to sell them to you.

Your old rusty spears? ;-P

Yeah... when time will come to build museums. ;-)




\\And mine were US/UK.

Bleh. They do not have play in the game.

"Nobody's home" is their game.

Scared children. NOT Macaulay Culkin. ;-P



\\But the formula is useful all by itself.

Garbage in, garbage out... beats ANY formula.

Yawn.




\\It shows that at the outset of the conflict, Russia had the capacity to win, while the hopes for any Ukrainian "offensives" were always JUST that, "hopes".

Yeah.

Since very beginning of that plan "To conquer Kyiv in 3 days".

And it STILL going as planned. ;-P





\\And at THAT time, US was at war. Not like now (only foolish proxies unable to "order" their own militias). ;)

Yeah.

After Pearl Harbor.

Yawn.





\\\\When was the last time you sat for a job interview?
/Well???
Ad hominem?

\\Scout motto: "Be Prepared!"

Ehm???




\\In a 2007 article, Biletsky stated

So... Verba *IS* Acta... still???? :-))))

And bleh...

you still dunno trivia. ;-P





\\What's the going rate for 'good' propaganda? Same as for 'bad'?

Ehm???




\\Wishful thinking.

You... just dunno trivia. ;-P

That there's a lot of doublers... is Polishinel's Secret.




\\Naaah. Just a 'useless' idiot not willing to become 'useful'.

Mind virus don't care what it uses as mediator.





\\More a message regarding the limits of blind loyalty to a cause.

And to a Truth? ;-)




\\\\The candidates? When were the "primaries" held? On the phone with Victoria Nuland?
/Everybody have SAME election laws. And they are the same as in USA??? :-))))

\\Coke or Pepsi? It's a "free" choice. The water is also poison. Plants all Drink Bwando.

OK, Google.

"list of parties in Ukraine"

How many parties are there in Ukraine?
This is a list of political parties in Ukraine, both past and present. As of January 1, 2020, there are 349 officially registered political parties in Ukraine.

List of political parties in Ukraine - Wikipedia
Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › List_of_political_parti...









-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\Nope, just trying to get you to acknowledge the power of RICE's 'I'deology.
/Yap.
Trying to insult my intelligence.


Horse to water...


\\It was probably less than $20b in "government" funding (for finishing wall) and hundreds of $billions in added labour costs to US corporations.
/I heard nothing like that in news...
but, I'm not very interested in it, so...


You mean that a paltry $20b for a wall blocked your "allies" from getting you your $61b for 6 months? That a compromise for Ukraine (and Israel) had been on the table the whole time?

Know who you're dealing for Ukrainian lives with. Uncompromising A-holes.


\\;) "Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds." - RW Emerson
/Well...


Only Inconsistencies can make the mind grow new brain cells and make new connections.


\\So if you ever need any spares, you can rely upon us to sell them to you.
/Your old rusty spears? ;-P
Yeah... when time will come to build museums. ;-)


You're right. You can always break up the Ukrainian streets for releasing bricks to throw.


\\And mine were US/UK.
/Bleh. They do not have play in the game.
"Nobody's home" is their game.
Scared children. NOT Macaulay Culkin. ;-P


...but with big luxuriously furnished homes to sleep in.


\\But the formula is useful all by itself.
/Garbage in, garbage out... beats ANY formula.
Yawn.


Like ChatGTP.


\\It shows that at the outset of the conflict, Russia had the capacity to win, while the hopes for any Ukrainian "offensives" were always JUST that, "hopes".
/Yeah.
Since very beginning of that plan "To conquer Kyiv in 3 days".
And it STILL going as planned. ;-P


You mean the feint towards Kyiv to prevent Ukrainian forces from massing in the East. War requires deception. That's why the Brits are so good at it (Employing Soft-kill) and we suck at it (most times).


\\And at THAT time, US was at war. Not like now (only foolish proxies unable to "order" their own militias). ;)
/Yeah.
After Pearl Harbor.
Yawn.


You think FDR was going to strike first? He was a president much in Lincoln's vein.


\\\\When was the last time you sat for a job interview?
/Well???
Ad hominem?
\\Scout motto: "Be Prepared!"
Ehm???


You don't hedge your bets? You'll never make a good investment banker.


\\In a 2007 article, Biletsky stated
/So... Verba *IS* Acta... still???? :-))))
And bleh...
you still dunno trivia. ;-P


Nope. But the verba that's escapes the "disinformation censor's" deletion can be read as to the 'proof' of its' veracity (so long as it reflects poorly upon the regime's causes du jour).

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\What's the going rate for 'good' propaganda? Same as for 'bad'?
/Ehm???


Just asking someone who would know... ;)


\\Wishful thinking.
/You... just dunno trivia. ;-P
That there's a lot of doublers... is Polishinel's Secret.


I'm not self-interested? You do know of the Nash modification, right?


\\Naaah. Just a 'useless' idiot not willing to become 'useful'.
/Mind virus don't care what it uses as mediator.


...it only cares for Operational success!


\\More a message regarding the limits of blind loyalty to a cause.
/And to a Truth? ;-)


What's that? A Court Verdict? Or anything that makes ME (or EVERYONE) feel more powerful? lol!


\\\\The candidates? When were the "primaries" held? On the phone with Victoria Nuland?
/Everybody have SAME election laws. And they are the same as in USA??? :-))))
\\Coke or Pepsi? It's a "free" choice. The water is also poison. Plants all Drink Bwando.
/OK, Google.
"list of parties in Ukraine"
How many parties are there in Ukraine?
This is a list of political parties in Ukraine, both past and present. As of January 1, 2020, there are 349 officially registered political parties in Ukraine.
List of political parties in Ukraine - Wikipedia
Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › List_of_political_parti...


And how many with a "financially" gained advantage to victory?

btw - Who pays for your (and all their deferred votes) government today? Me. How's THAT choice working out for ya?

Anonymous said...

\\Horse to water...

Horses are smart and noble animals... and do not drink from piss puddles. ;-P



\\You mean that a paltry $20b for a wall blocked your "allies" from getting you your $61b for 6 months? That a compromise for Ukraine (and Israel) had been on the table the whole time?

You know my opinion already (from brawls with Derpy).

I see it as bureaucratic plot of Bi-den -- to gain leverage over Europe and Ukraine... while thrugging all burden on Reps and dRump. :-))))))))))))))000

Worked like that charm.




\\\\;) "Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds." - RW Emerson
/Well...

\\Only Inconsistencies can make the mind grow new brain cells and make new connections.

Yap.

But for that to happen -- that mind need to SEEK for them. ;-)

Actively. Or even pro-actively.



\\You're right. You can always break up the Ukrainian streets for releasing bricks to throw.

Congratulations!

Now you understand Zelensky's "bright" pre-war planning. ;-P





\\...but with big luxuriously furnished homes to sleep in.

Untill some burglars would "occupy" em. ;-P



\\Like ChatGTP.

Funny gimmick. :-)




\\You mean the feint towards Kyiv to prevent Ukrainian forces from massing in the East.

BS. :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))




\\You think FDR was going to strike first? He was a president much in Lincoln's vein.

Whatever.

Not my cup of tea to judge him.

Yawn.




\\You don't hedge your bets? You'll never make a good investment banker.

I knew it MUCH before you. ;-P





\\
\\In a 2007 article, Biletsky stated
/So... Verba *IS* Acta... still???? :-))))
And bleh...
you still dunno trivia. ;-P

\\Nope.

And how it "Nope"???




\\ But the verba that's escapes the "disinformation censor's" deletion can be read as to the 'proof' of its' veracity (so long as it reflects poorly upon the regime's causes du jour).

BS.

As Derpy said "nazis is everywhere".

So what... any marginal babbling need to be treated as "something"???? :-))))))))))))))))

Oh, please, don't make me laugh. That's too ticklish. :-))))))))))))))))))))00




\\\\What's the going rate for 'good' propaganda? Same as for 'bad'?
/Ehm???

\\Just asking someone who would know... ;)

Then... your question is poorly formulated.




\\I'm not self-interested? You do know of the Nash modification, right?

I know only MiniMax. ;-P





\\\\Naaah. Just a 'useless' idiot not willing to become 'useful'.
/Mind virus don't care what it uses as mediator.

\\...it only cares for Operational success!

Like it have something to care with. ;-P

Do stone rolling down the slope... to reach "operational success"? ;-P




\\More a message regarding the limits of blind loyalty to a cause.
/And to a Truth? ;-)

\\What's that? A Court Verdict? Or anything that makes ME (or EVERYONE) feel more powerful? lol!

If you have no particular goal... no wind will be favorable to you.

Yawn.

Or... as Russian saying about it... you... errm, one... would be like that piece of shit... in an ice hole.




\\And how many with a "financially" gained advantage to victory?

One which would sell itself first? ;-P





\\btw - Who pays for your (and all their deferred votes) government today? Me. How's THAT choice working out for ya?

???

Deshiffer please???





-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\Horse to water...
/Horses are smart and noble animals... and do not drink from piss puddles. ;-P


...and Democrat Jack-asses? They drink nothing else.


\\You mean that a paltry $20b for a wall blocked your "allies" from getting you your $61b for 6 months? That a compromise for Ukraine (and Israel) had been on the table the whole time?
/You know my opinion already (from brawls with Derpy).
I see it as bureaucratic plot of Bi-den -- to gain leverage over Europe and Ukraine... while thrugging all burden on Reps and dRump. :-))))))))))))))000
Worked like that charm.


You're not wrong.


\\\\;) "Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds." - RW Emerson
/Well...
\\Only Inconsistencies can make the mind grow new brain cells and make new connections.
/Yap.
But for that to happen -- that mind need to SEEK for them. ;-)
Actively. Or even pro-actively.


No wonder we live in an idiocracy...


\\You're right. You can always break up the Ukrainian streets for releasing bricks to throw.
/Congratulations!
Now you understand Zelensky's "bright" pre-war planning. ;-P


He was busy perfecting his next dance routine for a campaign ad.


\\...but with big luxuriously furnished homes to sleep in.
/Untill some burglars would "occupy" em. ;-P


300 million guns in America. Fat chance.


\\Like ChatGTP.
/Funny gimmick. :-)


Garbage in...


\\You mean the feint towards Kyiv to prevent Ukrainian forces from massing in the East.
/BS. :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))


So why no more invasions/ fronts threatening Kyiv?


\\You think FDR was going to strike first? He was a president much in Lincoln's vein.
/Whatever.
Not my cup of tea to judge him.
Yawn.


Now you know Biden's position, though.


\\You don't hedge your bets? You'll never make a good investment banker.
/I knew it MUCH before you. ;-P


I'm not much of a hedger either, except for a few gold coins for bribing border officials.


\\In a 2007 article, Biletsky stated
/So... Verba *IS* Acta... still???? :-))))
And bleh...
you still dunno trivia. ;-P
\\Nope.
And how it "Nope"???


I don't know any Ukrainian trivia. I don't care to know it. It's "NMP".


\\ But the verba that's escapes the "disinformation censor's" deletion can be read as to the 'proof' of its' veracity (so long as it reflects poorly upon the regime's causes du jour).
/BS.
As Derpy said "nazis is everywhere".
So what... any marginal babbling need to be treated as "something"???? :-))))))))))))))))
Oh, please, don't make me laugh. That's too ticklish. :-))))))))))))))))))))00


You, as former Soviet client state, should know better than anyone that if Pravda printed an article critical of the leader (ie Stalin), it was probably true and the editors would be shot, or someone new was in charge.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\\\What's the going rate for 'good' propaganda? Same as for 'bad'?
/Ehm???
\\Just asking someone who would know... ;)
/Then... your question is poorly formulated.


Only if you believe your propaganda to be somehow 'better' than mine.


\\I'm not self-interested? You do know of the Nash modification, right?
/I know only MiniMax. ;-P


Well, you're definitely living the 'worst case' scenario, so its' probably time to 'break/ change the rules' that govern it. ;)


\\\\Naaah. Just a 'useless' idiot not willing to become 'useful'.
/Mind virus don't care what it uses as mediator.
\\...it only cares for Operational success!
/Like it have something to care with. ;-P
Do stone rolling down the slope... to reach "operational success"? ;-P


Who started the stone rolling? And "why"?


\\More a message regarding the limits of blind loyalty to a cause.
/And to a Truth? ;-)
\\What's that? A Court Verdict? Or anything that makes ME (or EVERYONE) feel more powerful? lol!
/If you have no particular goal... no wind will be favorable to you.
Yawn.
Or... as Russian saying about it... you... errm, one... would be like that piece of shit... in an ice hole.


It's better to be stuck to the hair on the Polar bear's ass?


\\And how many with a "financially" gained advantage to victory?
/One which would sell itself first? ;-P


Where's Zelensky's wife shopping this week?


\\btw - Who pays for your (and all their deferred votes) government today? Me. How's THAT choice working out for ya?
/???
Deshiffer please???


US money has been funding Ukrainian government salaries for years now.

Anonymous said...

\\...and Democrat Jack-asses? They drink nothing else.

@@



\\You're not wrong.

Yawn.

To DEMN apparent.




\\No wonder we live in an idiocracy...

Yawn.

As ever.

Only today it have no excuse of being of natural causes. Like malnutrition and etc.




\\300 million guns in America. Fat chance.

For civil war? ;-P




\\\\You mean the feint towards Kyiv to prevent Ukrainian forces from massing in the East.
/BS. :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

\\So why no more invasions/ fronts threatening Kyiv?

You are master of strategy here.

Know everything about ratios and inevitability of defeat.

You say. ;-P




\\Now you know Biden's position, though.

Whatever.

That is not practical knowledge.




\\I'm not much of a hedger either, except for a few gold coins for bribing border officials.

:-)




\\I don't know any Ukrainian trivia. I don't care to know it. It's "NMP".

When you trying to make conclusion... it became problem.

Not practical though.

So... continue-continue...




\\You, as former Soviet client state, should know better than anyone that if Pravda printed an article critical of the leader (ie Stalin), it was probably true and the editors would be shot, or someone new was in charge.

BS.

Of Royal Minutemen type.

Yawn.




\\Only if you believe your propaganda to be somehow 'better' than mine.

What propaganda???

Can you say definition?

Can you point to some facts, as example?




\\Well, you're definitely living the 'worst case' scenario, so its' probably time to 'break/ change the rules' that govern it. ;)

NMP. ;-P




\\Who started the stone rolling? And "why"?

Law of Unpredictable Consequences? ;-)





\\It's better to be stuck to the hair on the Polar bear's ass?

See... no cultural understanding.

It's from tradition of winter fishing. With making holes in the ice on a river/lake.



\\US money has been funding Ukrainian government salaries for years now.

So what???

You think it made em feeling indebted? :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Bu-ga-gah!!!

Like Zelensky... just now, in news... "we will force em... to give weapon". ;-P









-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\No wonder we live in an idiocracy...
/Yawn.
As ever.
Only today it have no excuse of being of natural causes. Like malnutrition and etc.


Yep. It's "genetic" (evil white men). ;)


\\300 million guns in America. Fat chance.
/For civil war? ;-P


You never know...


\\\\You mean the feint towards Kyiv to prevent Ukrainian forces from massing in the East.
/BS. :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
\\So why no more invasions/ fronts threatening Kyiv?
/You are master of strategy here.
Know everything about ratios and inevitability of defeat.
You say. ;-P


Because it was all about Azov in the Donbass being a-holes all along.


\\Now you know Biden's position, though.
/Whatever.
That is not practical knowledge.


Really? Remember when that "Russian" missile "accidently" landed in Poland?


\\I don't know any Ukrainian trivia. I don't care to know it. It's "NMP".
/When you trying to make conclusion... it became problem.
Not practical though.
So... continue-continue...


For who? Certainly not me.


\\You, as former Soviet client state, should know better than anyone that if Pravda printed an article critical of the leader (ie Stalin), it was probably true and the editors would be shot, or someone new was in charge.
/BS.
Of Royal Minutemen type.
Yawn.


Tell that to Krushev. De-Stalinication. Who's "airbrushed" off Lenin's tomb in the Red Square parade this week? They "hide" their "mistakes". Like we do, now (Disinfo algorithms).


\\Only if you believe your propaganda to be somehow 'better' than mine.
/What propaganda???
Can you say definition?
Can you point to some facts, as example?


Information added in support of regime, or subtracted in support of regime.

Like "airbrushing" the NAZI's out of Azov battalion (Ukraine) or Photo-shopping them in (Russia).


\\Well, you're definitely living the 'worst case' scenario, so its' probably time to 'break/ change the rules' that govern it. ;)
/NMP. ;-P


Then you're trapped playing someone else's game, and living their dreams (reason for the rules).


\\Who started the stone rolling? And "why"?
/Law of Unpredictable Consequences? ;-)


Earthquake. Gotcha.

1

2 ;)


\\It's better to be stuck to the hair on the Polar bear's ass?
/See... no cultural understanding.
It's from tradition of winter fishing. With making holes in the ice on a river/lake.


Ahhh. Stuck to the ice-fisherman's ass... BIG difference. @@


\\US money has been funding Ukrainian government salaries for years now.
/So what???
You think it made em feeling indebted? :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Bu-ga-gah!!!
Like Zelensky... just now, in news... "we will force em... to give weapon". ;-P


lol! Want to know who your Master is? Follow the money...

...and "You're welcome".

Anonymous said...

\\Because it was all about Azov in the Donbass being a-holes all along.

Have some facts???

And what about ALL OTHER volunteers battalions? ;-)




\\\\Now you know Biden's position, though.
/Whatever.
That is not practical knowledge.

\\Really? Remember when that "Russian" missile "accidently" landed in Poland?

You know. :-)

That you bewildering me... with such comments? :-)

HOW!!! should I know how it *relates*??? :-)




\\\\I don't know any Ukrainian trivia. I don't care to know it. It's "NMP".
/When you trying to make conclusion... it became problem.
Not practical though.
So... continue-continue...

\\For who? Certainly not me.

Having fogged mind... is not a problem to you?

Well, whatever.

It is problem-in-itself. ;-P

Like that Gordian Knot.




\\Tell that to Krushev. De-Stalinication.

Like you can tell anything about it. ;-P

Royal Minutemen was having Tea Parties. Where Buffalo Bill was serving em. :-)))))





\\Information added in support of regime, or subtracted in support of regime.

:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

There need to be some REGIME... first. ;-P




\\Like "airbrushing" the NAZI's out of Azov battalion (Ukraine) or Photo-shopping them in (Russia).

That's all phantoms of your Western narratives... that then used by Russian propaganda.

Both -- oblivious to facts.

Western side -- accidently. Russian side -- deliberately.

WHY Russian propaganda DO NOT howl about "nazi battalion Donbass"????

OK, Google.

"how many volunteers battalions in Ukraine"


Ukrainian volunteer battalions
Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › U...
Ukrainian volunteer battalions were militias and paramilitary groups mobilized as a response to the perceived state of weakness and unwillingness of the ...
‎Volunteer formations · ‎Ministry of Defence · ‎Independent battalions · ‎Foreign fighters


As of September 2014, 37 volunteer battalions had taken an active part in the battles of the war in Donbas.[9]



You... just know NO trivia. ;-P





\\\\Well, you're definitely living the 'worst case' scenario, so its' probably time to 'break/ change the rules' that govern it. ;)
/NMP. ;-P

\\Then you're trapped playing someone else's game, and living their dreams (reason for the rules).

Yawn.

Projection.




\\\\It's better to be stuck to the hair on the Polar bear's ass?
/See... no cultural understanding.
It's from tradition of winter fishing. With making holes in the ice on a river/lake.

\\Ahhh. Stuck to the ice-fisherman's ass... BIG difference. @@

Also... they have tradition of bathing in em. ;-P

And more old, and almost forgot -- washing their laundry in it. ;-P

You just know NO trivia.

Yawn.




\\Like Zelensky... just now, in news... "we will force em... to give weapon". ;-P

\\lol! Want to know who your Master is? Follow the money...

Seems like... Zelensky is master of your money. ;-P



Anonymous said...

Go study -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_volunteer_battalions

How many "nazis" are there.

But... RFia howling ONLY about Azov.

Why????

While there's "Georgian National Legion" -- that is TOTALLY and DEFINITELY NAZIs, isn't it??? There is "national" and "legion" in it -- sounds DAMNiNG as hell, isn't it???

Or... there is "Dzhokhar Dudayev battalion" -- that is NASTY Chechen TERRORISTS... against whom RFia fought All 90th -- totally "nazis"!!!!



There's ""Other countries whose nationals supported Ukraine included Albania (15), Australia (5), Austria (35), Azerbaijan (20), Belgium (1), Bosnia and Herzegovina (5), Bulgaria (6), Canada (10), Czech Republic (5), Denmark (15), Estonia (10), Finland (15), France (15), Germany (15), Greece (2), Ireland (7), Israel (15), Italy (35), Latvia (8), Lithuania (15), Moldova (15), Kosovo (4), Netherlands (3), North Macedonia (4), Norway (10), Poland (10), Portugal (1), Romania (4), Serbia (6), Slovakia (8), Sweden (25), Turkey (30), the United Kingdom (10), and the United States (15).[28] [better source needed]""

WHOLE bunch of "nazis"... from all around world.

WHY NO howling, no reports, no mentioning of em on CNN???? %-)))))))))))))))))))))))0



And "Separate Special-Purpose Battalion" -- SEE!!!! "SS" -- DEFINITELY nazis are there. ;-P

ITS IN THE NAME ITSELF!!! %-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Anonymous said...

Think that is "propaganda"?

Here is report from your military -- https://www.moore.army.mil/infantry/magazine/issues/2016/APR-JUL/pdf/16)%20Cohen_UkraineVolunteers_TXT.pdf

Anonymous said...

And...

Go start to read Tom Cooper. ;-)

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\Because it was all about Azov in the Donbass being a-holes all along.
/Have some facts???
And what about ALL OTHER volunteers battalions? ;-)


The who refuse to open their eyes will NEVER see.


\\\\Now you know Biden's position, though.
/Whatever.
That is not practical knowledge.
\\Really? Remember when that "Russian" missile "accidently" landed in Poland?
/You know. :-)
That you bewildering me... with such comments? :-)
HOW!!! should I know how it *relates*??? :-)


It almost became the "legalistic" treaty-event that invoked a NATO response/ casus belli.


\\\\I don't know any Ukrainian trivia. I don't care to know it. It's "NMP".
/When you trying to make conclusion... it became problem.
Not practical though.
So... continue-continue...
\\For who? Certainly not me.
/Having fogged mind... is not a problem to you?
Well, whatever.
It is problem-in-itself. ;-P
Like that Gordian Knot.


Then I'll become more "Alexandrian" and not bother with the fog machines. ;)


\\Tell that to Krushev. De-Stalinication.
/Like you can tell anything about it. ;-P
Royal Minutemen was having Tea Parties. Where Buffalo Bill was serving em. :-)))))


Was that scene in "Silence of the Lambs"?


\\Information added in support of regime, or subtracted in support of regime.
/:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
There need to be some REGIME... first. ;-P


What would you call the circle jerk of USIC/ Ukrainian spies in Kyiv, then? The Coalition?


\\Like "airbrushing" the NAZI's out of Azov battalion (Ukraine) or Photo-shopping them in (Russia).
/That's all phantoms of your Western narratives... that then used by Russian propaganda.
Both -- oblivious to facts.
Western side -- accidently. Russian side -- deliberately.
WHY Russian propaganda DO NOT howl about "nazi battalion Donbass"????
OK, Google.
"how many volunteers battalions in Ukraine"


Facts and Truth don't matter. Only "Operational Success" matters. Alchemy. Can you precisely define "Pornography", or will you just know it when you see it?


/...As of September 2014, 37 volunteer battalions had taken an active part in the battles of the war in Donbas.[9]
You... just know NO trivia. ;-P


...and which had the most Nazi's in it, Alex Trebek?


\\\\Well, you're definitely living the 'worst case' scenario, so its' probably time to 'break/ change the rules' that govern it. ;)
/NMP. ;-P
\\Then you're trapped playing someone else's game, and living their dreams (reason for the rules).
/Yawn.
Projection.


Another statue frozen in Interpassivity.


\\\\It's better to be stuck to the hair on the Polar bear's ass?
/See... no cultural understanding.
It's from tradition of winter fishing. With making holes in the ice on a river/lake.
\\Ahhh. Stuck to the ice-fisherman's ass... BIG difference. @@
/Also... they have tradition of bathing in em. ;-P
And more old, and almost forgot -- washing their laundry in it. ;-P
You just know NO trivia.
Yawn.


Same sh*t, different place.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\Like Zelensky... just now, in news... "we will force em... to give weapon". ;-P
\\lol! Want to know who your Master is? Follow the money...
/Seems like... Zelensky is master of your money. ;-P


I'm sure his cut is small compared to the rest of the bureaucracy.


/Go study -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_volunteer_battalions
How many "nazis" are there.
But... RFia howling ONLY about Azov.
Why????
While there's "Georgian National Legion" -- that is TOTALLY and DEFINITELY NAZIs, isn't it??? There is "national" and "legion" in it -- sounds DAMNiNG as hell, isn't it???
Or... there is "Dzhokhar Dudayev battalion" -- that is NASTY Chechen TERRORISTS... against whom RFia fought All 90th -- totally "nazis"!!!!


"Representative men"... representative battalion. Must you know all Nazi's to undertand 1?


There's ""Other countries whose nationals supported Ukraine included Albania (15), Australia (5), Austria (35), Azerbaijan (20), Belgium (1), Bosnia and Herzegovina (5), Bulgaria (6), Canada (10), Czech Republic (5), Denmark (15), Estonia (10), Finland (15), France (15), Germany (15), Greece (2), Ireland (7), Israel (15), Italy (35), Latvia (8), Lithuania (15), Moldova (15), Kosovo (4), Netherlands (3), North Macedonia (4), Norway (10), Poland (10), Portugal (1), Romania (4), Serbia (6), Slovakia (8), Sweden (25), Turkey (30), the United Kingdom (10), and the United States (15).[28] [better source needed]""
/WHOLE bunch of "nazis"... from all around world.
WHY NO howling, no reports, no mentioning of em on CNN???? %-)))))))))))))))))))))))0


Really? No howling about the neo-Nazi's of the US Alt-Right? AfD? Austrian Identitarians? Sure? MeThinkes that the lady doth protest too much.


/And "Separate Special-Purpose Battalion" -- SEE!!!! "SS" -- DEFINITELY nazis are there. ;-P
ITS IN THE NAME ITSELF!!! %-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))


...definitely protests too much!


/Think that is "propaganda"?
Here is report from your military -- https://www.moore.army.mil/infantry/magazine/issues/2016/APR-JUL/pdf/16)%20Cohen_UkraineVolunteers_TXT.pdf


Military propaganda is better?


/And...
Go start to read Tom Cooper. ;-)


Why? He's a certified "Honest Injun?"

Anonymous said...

\\The who refuse to open their eyes will NEVER see.

I listen russians... you think they HIDING information about "Azov nazis"?????

That's... insane.

@@




\\It almost became the "legalistic" treaty-event that invoked a NATO response/ casus belli.

YET MORE.

@@




\\Then I'll become more "Alexandrian" and not bother with the fog machines. ;)

And how'd you be able ti found a way... in that fog.

Oh, sorry, you don't have such experience. Always was living in city, where lots of light and always clear sky.

So... such references to you -- they meaningless, yes?




\\\\Information added in support of regime, or subtracted in support of regime.
/:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
There need to be some REGIME... first. ;-P

\\What would you call the circle jerk of USIC/ Ukrainian spies in Kyiv, then? The Coalition?

Royal Minutemen hunting after T.Rex???





\\Facts and Truth don't matter. Only "Operational Success" matters. Alchemy. Can you precisely define "Pornography", or will you just know it when you see it?

Still. Alchemist need something to eat. And be payed with gold.

And better if that is real gold. ;-P

Because they know all and any way to make fake one.




\\...and which had the most Nazi's in it, Alex Trebek?

Ask that CNN reporter. ;-P

HE saw em. I -- don't.



\\Another statue frozen in Interpassivity.

YET MORE

@@




\\Same sh*t, different place.

Royal Minutemen... or Tribal. Or... they are Transvestites.

Same sh*t, different place.

Yawn.

@@




\\"Representative men"... representative battalion. Must you know all Nazi's to undertand 1?

"They all in one face... those nazis". %-)))))))))





\\Really? No howling about the neo-Nazi's of the US Alt-Right? AfD? Austrian Identitarians? Sure? MeThinkes that the lady doth protest too much.

From CNN???

So then USA senators start talking "we do not need to cooperate with (Germany, Austria, your choice) -- they have NAZIs there"???

Or... even better -- disowning some of states... so all other would not be "tainted". ;-P

Naaaah. Not gonna happen. :-)))))))))))))00000




\\...definitely protests too much!

?????




\\Military propaganda is better?

Of your country enemies?

Seems like it -- you like liliPut and liliXi piss more...

well, not my problem.

Yawn.





\\Why? He's a certified "Honest Injun?"

Fear to hear some other POV???

Why? ;-P

Anonymous said...

Why people drowning in piss and feces of propaganda... fear to listen anything opposite to it???? %-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

That's... damn intriguing.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\The who refuse to open their eyes will NEVER see.
/I listen russians... you think they HIDING information about "Azov nazis"?????
That's... insane.
@@


Think the Azov Nazi's are? You'd be right.


\\It almost became the "legalistic" treaty-event that invoked a NATO response/ casus belli.
/YET MORE.
@@


@@


\\Then I'll become more "Alexandrian" and not bother with the fog machines. ;)
/And how'd you be able ti found a way... in that fog.
Oh, sorry, you don't have such experience. Always was living in city, where lots of light and always clear sky.
So... such references to you -- they meaningless, yes?


Alexander cut the knot in a fog? ps - I grew up in SF Bay Area, remember?


\\\\Information added in support of regime, or subtracted in support of regime.
/:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
There need to be some REGIME... first. ;-P
\\What would you call the circle jerk of USIC/ Ukrainian spies in Kyiv, then? The Coalition?
/Royal Minutemen hunting after T.Rex???


Sounds accurate.


\\Facts and Truth don't matter. Only "Operational Success" matters. Alchemy. Can you precisely define "Pornography", or will you just know it when you see it?
/Still. Alchemist need something to eat. And be payed with gold.
And better if that is real gold. ;-P
Because they know all and any way to make fake one.


Sh*t, we can make gold and diamonds now. Just need the right equipment (and $ cuz costs more to make than spend)


\\...and which had the most Nazi's in it, Alex Trebek?
/Ask that CNN reporter. ;-P
HE saw em. I -- don't.


You're the one playing trivial pursuit, not me.


\\"Representative men"... representative battalion. Must you know all Nazi's to undertand 1?
/"They all in one face... those nazis". %-)))))))))


Nope, but they wear the same uniforms. Seen one, seen them all.


\\Really? No howling about the neo-Nazi's of the US Alt-Right? AfD? Austrian Identitarians? Sure? MeThinkes that the lady doth protest too much.
/From CNN???
So then USA senators start talking "we do not need to cooperate with (Germany, Austria, your choice) -- they have NAZIs there"???
Or... even better -- disowning some of states... so all other would not be "tainted". ;-P
Naaaah. Not gonna happen. :-)))))))))))))00000


LOL! You dont' watch much CNN, former "queens" of Cancel Culture.


\\...definitely protests too much!
?????


Ophelia, Shakespeare's "Hamlet".


\\Military propaganda is better?
/Of your country enemies?
Seems like it -- you like liliPut and liliXi piss more...
well, not my problem.
Yawn.


I like them fine. He doesn't tell me, "...it's just the rain." :)


\\Why? He's a certified "Honest Injun?"
/Fear to hear some other POV???
Why? ;-P


No, I fear more boredom.


Why people drowning in piss and feces of propaganda... fear to listen anything opposite to it???? %-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
That's... damn intriguing.


You should do a study. How deep is it where you are?

Anonymous said...

\\\\The who refuse to open their eyes will NEVER see.
/I listen russians... you think they HIDING information about "Azov nazis"?????
That's... insane.
@@

\\Think the Azov Nazi's are? You'd be right.

?????

Cannot deshiffer. :-(




\\https://www.wsj.com/world/russian-missile-incursions-into-nato-risk-wider-war-polands-president-says-caa57d64

Realpolitik.

Or what??? Maybe you dunno this European word???




\\Alexander cut the knot in a fog? ps - I grew up in SF Bay Area, remember?

Sorry for ad hominem. :-/




\\Sounds accurate.

Yep.

Any BS have just same level of "accuracy" as any other BS.

@@




\\You're the one playing trivial pursuit, not me.

Dunno. Why I "pursuit" anything... while I just referring to known obvious and open to anyone facts???

Are you one from Alice in Wonderland?





\\Nope, but they wear the same uniforms. Seen one, seen them all.

Yap.

Those in military.

They all nazis. %-))))))))




\\LOL! You dont' watch much CNN, former "queens" of Cancel Culture.

Whatever.




\\\\Military propaganda is better?
/Of your country enemies?
Seems like it -- you like liliPut and liliXi piss more...
well, not my problem.
Yawn.

\\I like them fine. He doesn't tell me, "...it's just the rain." :)

Of course not.

They call it "cool drink... here, just in-take it... first doze is free". %-)))))))))




\\No, I fear more boredom.

Here... I agree with you -- Reality IS boring.

But... have many other redeeming traits.

Like, for example... it's, Real.





\\Why people drowning in piss and feces of propaganda... fear to listen anything opposite to it???? %-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
That's... damn intriguing.

\\You should do a study. How deep is it where you are?

I am?.. I am far-far... away. ;-P

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\\\The who refuse to open their eyes will NEVER see.
/I listen russians... you think they HIDING information about "Azov nazis"?????
That's... insane.
@@
\\Think the Azov Nazi's are? You'd be right.
/?????
Cannot deshiffer. :-(


Propaganda has 2 sides. One exposes (bad Nazi's). One hides (bad Nazi's). which side has the MOST Nazi's? Hard to determine. But one thing is certain. Both sides have some.


\\https://www.wsj.com/world/russian-missile-incursions-into-nato-risk-wider-war-polands-president-says-caa57d64
/Realpolitik.
Or what??? Maybe you dunno this European word???


No, but I am familiar with the NATO one, having held a NATO Secret clearance and worked on developing AAW and ASW systems for them.


\\Alexander cut the knot in a fog? ps - I grew up in SF Bay Area, remember?
Sorry for ad hominem. :-/


Apologies unnecessary. Arguments get heated.


\\Sounds accurate.
/Yep.
Any BS have just same level of "accuracy" as any other BS.
@@


Same stink.


\\You're the one playing trivial pursuit, not me.
/Dunno. Why I "pursuit" anything... while I just referring to known obvious and open to anyone facts???
Are you one from Alice in Wonderland?


Naaah. More "Through the Looking Glass". Less running after rabbits in that one. More scary Jabberwocks.


\\Nope, but they wear the same uniforms. Seen one, seen them all.
/Yap.
Those in military.
They all nazis. %-))))))))


Not if the officers retain command (not as professiona in militias).


\\LOL! You dont' watch much CNN, former "queens" of Cancel Culture.
/Whatever.


Ted Turner, CNN owner/ founder and his wife, actress "Hanoi Jane Fonda" (whose ex-husband Tom Hayden, was also an SDS founder and political activist who wrote the blueprint for today's political mess, The Port Huron Statement)


\\\\Military propaganda is better?
/Of your country enemies?
Seems like it -- you like liliPut and liliXi piss more...
well, not my problem.
Yawn.
\\I like them fine. He doesn't tell me, "...it's just the rain." :)
/Of course not.
They call it "cool drink... here, just in-take it... first doze is free". %-)))))))))


Fresh p*ss in "cool"? Just how hot is it in Kyiv?


\\No, I fear more boredom.
/Here... I agree with you -- Reality IS boring.
But... have many other redeeming traits.
Like, for example... it's, Real.


Then what are we both doing wasting time in this hyper-real sh*thole known as the Internet? We should get out of this place.


\\Why people drowning in piss and feces of propaganda... fear to listen anything opposite to it???? %-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
That's... damn intriguing.
\\You should do a study. How deep is it where you are?
/I am?.. I am far-far... away. ;-P


...too bad I can't cross the road. Uvaldi Syndrome...

Anonymous said...

\\Propaganda has 2 sides. One exposes (bad Nazi's). One hides (bad Nazi's). which side has the MOST Nazi's? Hard to determine. But one thing is certain. Both sides have some.

Pft!

It sounds like "being a little dead".

Like that "shredinger's jews"... in a death furnaces.

Somehow... they was all still alive... until USA army came to that camps and saw it all with their eyes.

Because... BEFORE that... that was "just a propaganda", yes?




\\No, but I am familiar with the NATO one, having held a NATO Secret clearance and worked on developing AAW and ASW systems for them.

Yap.

Because that word reserved only for "those who know better" to use and understand.

If you for example would try to use it... to not pay taxes for example, they'll find you and show you your place. ;-P





\\Naaah. More "Through the Looking Glass". Less running after rabbits in that one. More scary Jabberwocks.

Yep.

That is in "Through the Looking Glass" that (blakk??) queen said about need to run faster...





\\Not if the officers retain command (not as professiona in militias).

NAZIs was OFFICERS!

Specially trained. Specially selected. Specially brainwashed.

By GOVERNMENT!



\\Ted Turner, CNN owner/ founder and his wife, actress "Hanoi Jane Fonda" (whose ex-husband Tom Hayden, was also an SDS founder and political activist who wrote the blueprint for today's political mess, The Port Huron Statement)

Whatever.




\\Fresh p*ss in "cool"?

Isn't that slang is from your time? ;-P

And who said that it fresh... it not fresh at all.

It's just NEW on your market. ;-P

Glory to Great Proletaric Revolution! Glory to Great Lenin! sorts of piss.

Yammy!

To newborn brains USAians... it seems.

Yawn.




\\Then what are we both doing wasting time in this hyper-real sh*thole known as the Internet? We should get out of this place.

Because it -- Real.

Down to lowest level of it's architecture. And up to highest.


What are the 5 layers of the Internet?
The TCP/IP model is based on a five-layer model for networking. From bottom (the link) to top (the user application), these are the physical, data link, net- work, transport, and application layers.

THE TCP/IP PROTOCOL SUITE
unicen.edu.ar
https://users.exa.unicen.edu.ar › TP1-Ejercicio5-ingles

SEE... it's Physical. ;-P




\\...too bad I can't cross the road. Uvaldi Syndrome...

Then... start praying, for vigilante to come... to your rescue.



-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\Propaganda has 2 sides. One exposes (bad Nazi's). One hides (bad Nazi's). which side has the MOST Nazi's? Hard to determine. But one thing is certain. Both sides have some.
/Pft!
It sounds like "being a little dead".
Like that "shredinger's jews"... in a death furnaces.
Somehow... they was all still alive... until USA army came to that camps and saw it all with their eyes.
Because... BEFORE that... that was "just a propaganda", yes?


It was "plausible deniability." In the West we used to call it showing caritas... the courtesy of giving one's opponent the benefit of the doubt, cause you really didn't want to believe the bad things that other people were saying about him. That's what people in a civil society do, give 'others' the 'benefit of the doubt'. It's what's sorely LACKING in the current American political environment because one sides believes itself SO RIGHTEOUS that they think its' alright to even FAKE HATE CRIMES, for the "greater cause" of building a Grand Narrative of "white racism and minority oppression" in the name of "social justice" and righting of "historical wrongs". Does "Orange Man Bad" sound like caritas? As for those on your side, they get caritas no matter how outrageous the claim, "Biden's NOT corrrupt". "Hunter deserved those Burisma payoffs". Plausibly deniable? Maybe NOT so plausible anymore.


\\No, but I am familiar with the NATO one, having held a NATO Secret clearance and worked on developing AAW and ASW systems for them.
/Yap.
Because that word reserved only for "those who know better" to use and understand.
If you for example would try to use it... to not pay taxes for example, they'll find you and show you your place. ;-P


Not if there were a (D) after my name. Prosecutorial discretion.


\\Naaah. More "Through the Looking Glass". Less running after rabbits in that one. More scary Jabberwocks.
/Yep.
That is in "Through the Looking Glass" that (blakk??) queen said about need to run faster...


...just to remain in place, too.


\\Not if the officers retain command (not as professiona in militias).
/NAZIs was OFFICERS!
Specially trained. Specially selected. Specially brainwashed.
By GOVERNMENT!


I wouldn't have gone so far as regards to the Azov Battalion, I was willing to give the Ukrainian government the benefit of the doubt, show caritas. But now that you mention it, it probably WAS endemic to the entire Ukrainian State, as was the problem with the German one. One must be willing to "do bad things" (ie- Jewish eradication) to accomplish a good end (ir- loyalty of former Soviet Russian nationals to Ukraine).


\\Ted Turner, CNN owner/ founder and his wife, actress "Hanoi Jane Fonda" (whose ex-husband Tom Hayden, was also an SDS founder and political activist who wrote the blueprint for today's political mess, The Port Huron Statement)
/Whatever.


Who ran Zelensky's TV station? It's a shame Zelensky had to throw him under the bus... he and Ted Turner (CNN) had a lot in common. :(

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\Fresh p*ss in "cool"?
/Isn't that slang is from your time? ;-P
And who said that it fresh... it not fresh at all.
It's just NEW on your market. ;-P
Glory to Great Proletaric Revolution! Glory to Great Lenin! sorts of piss.
Yammy!
To newborn brains USAians... it seems.
Yawn.


I was speaking of its' thermal properties.


\\Then what are we both doing wasting time in this hyper-real sh*thole known as the Internet? We should get out of this place.
/Because it -- Real.
Down to lowest level of it's architecture. And up to highest.
What are the 5 layers of the Internet?
The TCP/IP model is based on a five-layer model for networking. From bottom (the link) to top (the user application), these are the physical, data link, net- work, transport, and application layers.
THE TCP/IP PROTOCOL SUITE
unicen.edu.ar
https://users.exa.unicen.edu.ar › TP1-Ejercicio5-ingles
SEE... it's Physical. ;-P


And the 1's and 0's are real, too. Just like human consciousness. Every "thought' is a "real one". @@


\\...too bad I can't cross the road. Uvaldi Syndrome...
/Then... start praying, for vigilante to come... to your rescue.


Naaaah. Like it says on the currency, "In G_d we Trust". You would prefer to substitute "Evolution" (Impermanence) for "G_d" (Absolute permanence)?

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

More "theory" about your reality.

Anonymous said...

\\Does "Orange Man Bad" sound like caritas? As for those on your side, they get caritas no matter how outrageous the claim, "Biden's NOT corrrupt". "Hunter deserved those Burisma payoffs". Plausibly deniable? Maybe NOT so plausible anymore.

My condolences...

but hardly I can provide any consolations here. :-((((

C'est... la vi!




\\I wouldn't have gone so far as regards to the Azov Battalion, I was willing to give the Ukrainian government the benefit of the doubt, show caritas. But now that you mention it, it probably WAS endemic to the entire Ukrainian State, as was the problem with the German one.

That's problem with your understanding.

Is it bad to be a nationalist? A patriot?

Well... in case of USA... it's dangerous -- if every national group who took refuge on your turf -- would declare own independence.

SAME... as for any other Empire.

But... you are not. You not empire -- that is just phantom pains of being part of one. ;-P

But... Europe learned to live with it. Became Unite... without prescribing: in what language "to think", what religion to follow, what traditions and superstitions to cling to.

So... it is not problem with Azov. For sure.

That's you inner ambivalence.




\\ One must be willing to "do bad things" (ie- Jewish eradication) to accomplish a good end (ir- loyalty of former Soviet Russian nationals to Ukraine).

BS.

And overly primitive understanding of Machiavelli.




\\Who ran Zelensky's TV station? It's a shame Zelensky had to throw him under the bus... he and Ted Turner (CNN) had a lot in common. :(

You... know NO trivia.

It is Polishinel's Secret. That that is just a way to PROTECT his benefactor -- from extradiction to USA.

Or... you think he would feel himself better in USA prison??? %-))))))



\\I was speaking of its' thermal properties.

"Put in frig before use"?

I think it's up to tastes of consumer.




\\And the 1's and 0's are real, too. Just like human consciousness. Every "thought' is a "real one". @@

So... you are dualist too??? ;-P






Joe Conservative said...

\\Does "Orange Man Bad" sound like caritas? As for those on your side, they get caritas no matter how outrageous the claim, "Biden's NOT corrrupt". "Hunter deserved those Burisma payoffs". Plausibly deniable? Maybe NOT so plausible anymore.
/My condolences...
but hardly I can provide any consolations here. :-((((
C'est... la vi!


Hey, at least I got Hunter Biden's "plausible deniability" explained to me today. He's affiliated with the National Democratic Institute. No wonder he got the Burisma job. USIC on steroids. Part of the Western Oil Company conglomorate buyout of Ukraine's oil & gas industry.


\\I wouldn't have gone so far as regards to the Azov Battalion, I was willing to give the Ukrainian government the benefit of the doubt, show caritas. But now that you mention it, it probably WAS endemic to the entire Ukrainian State, as was the problem with the German one.
/That's problem with your understanding.
Is it bad to be a nationalist? A patriot?
Well... in case of USA... it's dangerous -- if every national group who took refuge on your turf -- would declare own independence.
SAME... as for any other Empire.
But... you are not. You not empire -- that is just phantom pains of being part of one. ;-P
But... Europe learned to live with it. Became Unite... without prescribing: in what language "to think", what religion to follow, what traditions and superstitions to cling to.
So... it is not problem with Azov. For sure.
That's you inner ambivalence.


As a nationalist patriot myself, I understand your complaint all too well. I just fail to see why you take being called a Nazi so personally. I get called one practically every day. Like I said, "Methinkes the lady do protest too much!"


\\ One must be willing to "do bad things" (ie- Jewish eradication) to accomplish a good end (ir- loyalty of former Soviet Russian nationals to Ukraine).
/BS.
And overly primitive understanding of Machiavelli.


If I have it, the USIC must have it on steroids.


\\Who ran Zelensky's TV station? It's a shame Zelensky had to throw him under the bus... he and Ted Turner (CNN) had a lot in common. :(
/You... know NO trivia.
It is Polishinel's Secret. That that is just a way to PROTECT his benefactor -- from extradiction to USA.
Or... you think he would feel himself better in USA prison??? %-))))))


Sounds like he should have simply sold his communication and banking assets over to his new Western masters for the offered price, then. :(


\\I was speaking of its' thermal properties.
/"Put in frig before use"?
I think it's up to tastes of consumer.


I suppose that I implied that we were to drink it from the hose.


\\And the 1's and 0's are real, too. Just like human consciousness. Every "thought' is a "real one". @@
/So... you are dualist too??? ;-P


Dualist? No. Electric fieldist? Yes. Electrically charged "materialism".

Anonymous said...

\\\\Does "Orange Man Bad" sound like caritas? As for those on your side, they get caritas no matter how outrageous the claim, "Biden's NOT corrrupt". "Hunter deserved those Burisma payoffs". Plausibly deniable? Maybe NOT so plausible anymore.
/My condolences...
but hardly I can provide any consolations here. :-((((
C'est... la vi!

\\Hey, at least I got Hunter Biden's "plausible deniability" explained to me today. He's affiliated with the National Democratic Institute. No wonder he got the Burisma job. USIC on steroids. Part of the Western Oil Company conglomorate buyout of Ukraine's oil & gas industry.

Whatever.

I cannot help you with it.

With such inner jokes.

As that would need of me ability to influence multitude of people -- to make em change their views.

And I can't influence even one.

Because I either not know HOW to do that or have NO enough power for that.

Well. No.

I actually know.

You know... NEW tech -- to distract that multitude of people, to make em fascinated and think about something else...

Like it was with computers -- millions of people, even that who was not that into it. Was involved and looking after it.

Until today... when that tech became not that new, and stationed in plateau of S curve.

So... NEW tech needed. Complex enough -- to distract millions of people. From meaningless political rumbling. And channeling it into something productive.

Something... that could give to us stars.

While political rumbling -- can give only graves. :-((((((((((((((((



Anonymous said...

\\As a nationalist patriot myself,

Of what nation?

Just for clarity.



\\ I understand your complaint all too well. I just fail to see why you take being called a Nazi so personally.

Ehm????

I tend to take any unTruth too personally.(does miserly brawls not enough proof of that???)

I know, I know.

Gilty as Hell... :-(((((



\\ I get called one practically every day. Like I said, "Methinkes the lady do protest too much!"

Well... that like it is there... but not like it is here.

And I... though lurking around your distant "there", as anonimous from far-far-away... still and mostly residing "here".

Isn't that is obvious?

Also... it's damn intriguing -- to reveal what people "there" thinking about. Or... that is just for me.




\\If I have it, the USIC must have it on steroids.

Well... organizations... cannot have as extreme views as individuals.

Because they need to saturate em... to a some common cause.

Yawn.




\\Sounds like he should have simply sold his communication and banking assets over to his new Western masters for the offered price, then. :(

Hah.

And Al Capone could just give up his "business" to FBI. ;-P




\\I suppose that I implied that we were to drink it from the hose.

Outdate technique.

Modern version -- personalized. ;-P

Why all that face-poohs collect all kinds of info on you? ;-)



\\Dualist? No. Electric fieldist? Yes. Electrically charged "materialism".

Whatever.

Yawn.

As much as you'd not start to meltdown because of it...











Anonymous said...

>>>I tend to take any unTruth too personally.(does miserly brawls not enough proof of that???)

Miserly brawls with Derpy, I mean.



-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\Hey, at least I got Hunter Biden's "plausible deniability" explained to me today. He's affiliated with the National Democratic Institute. No wonder he got the Burisma job. USIC on steroids. Part of the Western Oil Company conglomorate buyout of Ukraine's oil & gas industry.
/Whatever.
I cannot help you with it.
With such inner jokes.
As that would need of me ability to influence multitude of people -- to make em change their views.
And I can't influence even one.
Because I either not know HOW to do that or have NO enough power for that.
Well. No.
I actually know.
You know... NEW tech -- to distract that multitude of people, to make em fascinated and think about something else...
Like it was with computers -- millions of people, even that who was not that into it. Was involved and looking after it.
Until today... when that tech became not that new, and stationed in plateau of S curve.
So... NEW tech needed. Complex enough -- to distract millions of people. From meaningless political rumbling. And channeling it into something productive.
Something... that could give to us stars.
While political rumbling -- can give only graves. :-((((((((((((((((


Perhaps you need to stop thinking about living in Normal Science's innovation window and instead start thinking of NOT censoring all the "innovators" OUT of your "normal science" hammock/ trap. iow - loosen your stranglehold on innovation by gov/uni lab PhDs performing "directed research". Central planning never worked out well in USSR. Why would it work out in "science" fields? Adopt a Heraclitian approach by abandoning the Parmenidean for a while. Let the "jokers" take some leaps.


\\As a nationalist patriot myself,
/Of what nation?
Just for clarity.


The American Republic (pre-Empire). Pat Buchanan Paleocon, not Bill Kristol Neocon.

Starting during the 1980s, disputes concerning Israel and public policy contributed to a conflict with paleoconservatives. Pat Buchanan terms neoconservatism "a globalist, interventionist, open borders ideology".[106] Paul Gottfried has written that the neocons' call for "permanent revolution" exists independently of their beliefs about Israel,[107] characterizing the neoconservatives as "ranters out of a Dostoyevskian novel, who are out to practice permanent revolution courtesy of the U.S. government" and questioning how anyone could mistake them for conservatives.[108]

What make neocons most dangerous are not their isolated ghetto hang-ups, like hating Germans and Southern whites and calling everyone and his cousin an anti-Semite, but the leftist revolutionary fury they express.[108]

He has also argued that domestic equality and the exportability of democracy are points of contention between them.[109]

Paul Craig Roberts, United States Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy during the Reagan administration and associated with paleoconservatism stated in 2003 that "there is nothing conservative about neoconservatives. Neocons hide behind 'conservative' but they are in fact Jacobins. Jacobins were the 18th century French revolutionaries whose intention to remake Europe in revolutionary France's image launched the Napoleonic Wars".[110]

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\ I understand your complaint all too well. I just fail to see why you take being called a Nazi so personally.
/Ehm????
I tend to take any unTruth too personally.(does miserly brawls not enough proof of that???)
I know, I know.
Gilty as Hell... :-(((((


Grow a thicker skin... or you'll always be too distracted arguing with the snake's feet to deliver the required body blows to the head of the snake.


\\ I get called one practically every day. Like I said, "Methinkes the lady do protest too much!"
/Well... that like it is there... but not like it is here.
And I... though lurking around your distant "there", as anonimous from far-far-away... still and mostly residing "here".
Isn't that is obvious?
Also... it's damn intriguing -- to reveal what people "there" thinking about. Or... that is just for me.


The internet was built to facilitate communication, not for PsyOps and as playgrounds for attempting to achieve "operational success" for new "colour revolutions". I want you to be aware of what kind of complete a-holes that you're fighting for.


\\If I have it, the USIC must have it on steroids.
/Well... organizations... cannot have as extreme views as individuals.
Because they need to saturate em... to a some common cause.
Yawn.


Yeah, light their "matches" and then scoop up all the resources. @@


\\Sounds like he should have simply sold his communication and banking assets over to his new Western masters for the offered price, then. :(
/Hah.
And Al Capone could just give up his "business" to FBI. ;-P


Lots of mobs do it (payoffs). Instead, the FBI now runs the mobs (ie - Whitey Bulger)


\\I suppose that I implied that we were to drink it from the hose.
/Outdate technique.
Modern version -- personalized. ;-P
Why all that face-poohs collect all kinds of info on you? ;-)


:P


\\Dualist? No. Electric fieldist? Yes. Electrically charged "materialism".
/Whatever.
Yawn.
As much as you'd not start to meltdown because of it...


Already had mine. Psychic break over Easter '01.


>>>I tend to take any unTruth too personally.(does miserly brawls not enough proof of that???)
/Miserly brawls with Derpy, I mean.


True. It's hard not to want to correct errors where you see them, but unless you give them the torpedoes shock, they're not likely to become motivated (RICE) to listen/ hear the message. They remain trapped in the I and E.

Anonymous said...

\\Perhaps you need to stop thinking about living in Normal Science's innovation window...

Well...

Who said that rules of the game will be the same? ;-)




\\The American Republic (pre-Empire). Pat Buchanan Paleocon, not Bill Kristol Neocon.

That is not (ethnic) nation.

That's a-national, or even anti-national political project. ;-P




\\Grow a thicker skin...

What for??? :-))))))

It's fun. ;-P




\\The internet was built to facilitate communication, not for PsyOps and as playgrounds for attempting to achieve "operational success" for new "colour revolutions". I want you to be aware of what kind of complete a-holes that you're fighting for.

Whatever.

I explained it... but you don't like to believe.

That that is natural thing. Tenets of traditional social structure.

Like mother telling her son that he must honor his father, her husband. ;-P

Because??? She will NEVER explain it... to a son. To daughter, maybe. But she already have it... in here genes. Without explanations.




\\Yeah, light their "matches" and then scoop up all the resources. @@

Yep.

If they are misguided. And on the brink of loosing purpose. (like it happen with USSR)

Yawn.



\\Lots of mobs do it (payoffs). Instead, the FBI now runs the mobs (ie - Whitey Bulger)

Yawn.

Just a natural cycle of evolution.





\\Already had mine. Psychic break over Easter '01.

Whatever.

I already told you my experience.

About logic teacher... from Soviet Union -- he was tout to "believe in materialism"... but same time was holding some percular supestitions.

So... when I revealed to it... how illogical it is. Logic in him was "deleted"... by that Big Other. ;-P

Or... some other time, I was talking (only started) with Prominent Believer. That tried to babble before my face something like "God is real".

To which I responded "Sun is real -- and that is true because I can point to it and shout: See... that is Sun"... and it broke too. ;-P

Anonymous said...

And Derpy... cannot be broken that way -- because cretin. ;-P

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\Perhaps you need to stop thinking about living in Normal Science's innovation window...
/Well...
Who said that rules of the game will be the same? ;-)


That's the point. Why follow failed/ failing rules? Just look at the internet... for business.


\\The American Republic (pre-Empire). Pat Buchanan Paleocon, not Bill Kristol Neocon.
/That is not (ethnic) nation.
That's a-national, or even anti-national political project. ;-P


You're right. It's not ethnic. I'm not a white nationalist. Just a nationalist. America. Love it or Leave it! Ethic a-holes not welcome. Go back to your ethnic state of origin.


\\Grow a thicker skin...
What for??? :-))))))
It's fun. ;-P


True dat. But ultimately... fruitless.


\\The internet was built to facilitate communication, not for PsyOps and as playgrounds for attempting to achieve "operational success" for new "colour revolutions". I want you to be aware of what kind of complete a-holes that you're fighting for.
/Whatever.
I explained it... but you don't like to believe.
That that is natural thing. Tenets of traditional social structure.
Like mother telling her son that he must honor his father, her husband. ;-P
Because??? She will NEVER explain it... to a son. To daughter, maybe. But she already have it... in here genes. Without explanations.


Elite a-holes just gotta be elite a-holes. As they say, "the peasants are revolting. Yeah, they stink on ice!"

I'm usually on their side (ala Goethe)... until they forget where they came from (America). Then I'm with Beethoven. ;P


\\Yeah, light their "matches" and then scoop up all the resources. @@
/Yep.
If they are misguided. And on the brink of loosing purpose. (like it happen with USSR)
Yawn.


Same sh*t, different day/times.


\\Lots of mobs do it (payoffs). Instead, the FBI now runs the mobs (ie - Whitey Bulger)
/Yawn.
Just a natural cycle of evolution.


I call it "job security" for "hedgers".


\\Already had mine. Psychic break over Easter '01.
/Whatever.
I already told you my experience.
About logic teacher... from Soviet Union -- he was tout to "believe in materialism"... but same time was holding some percular supestitions.
So... when I revealed to it... how illogical it is. Logic in him was "deleted"... by that Big Other. ;-P
Or... some other time, I was talking (only started) with Prominent Believer. That tried to babble before my face something like "God is real".
To which I responded "Sun is real -- and that is true because I can point to it and shout: See... that is Sun"... and it broke too. ;-P
/And Derpy... cannot be broken that way -- because cretin. ;-P


They say that the Devil used the same trick (to convince that he's not real). ;)

I suppose that makes me more a "St John of the Cross" kinda Pagan. "Where there is no love, put Love, and you will find it". So I put mine (Deism) in the Big Bang and then leave Him there (ala Plato). ;P

Anonymous said...

\\Who said that rules of the game will be the same? ;-)

\\That's the point. Why follow failed/ failing rules? Just look at the internet... for business.

Depend on what you mean.

There is NO way to go without that or another rules.

And there is big problem -- there is NO easy ways of transitioning from one set of rules to another.



\\You're right. It's not ethnic. I'm not a white nationalist. Just a nationalist. America. Love it or Leave it! Ethic a-holes not welcome. Go back to your ethnic state of origin.

That is socialist revolutioner stance. ;-P




\\True dat. But ultimately... fruitless.

Well... it depends on ability to cultivate. ;-)



\\Elite a-holes just gotta be elite a-holes.

And what is "elite"???



\\They say that the Devil used the same trick (to convince that he's not real). ;)

Whatever.

"Devil" is mis-interpretation of Torah story.

Product of "lost in translation".

Yawn.



\\So I put mine (Deism) in the Big Bang and then leave Him there (ala Plato). ;P

Why not?

You can do with your head whatever you like.

That's what being Human is.


Anonymous said...

You know who pastafarians are? ;-P

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\Who said that rules of the game will be the same? ;-)
\\That's the point. Why follow failed/ failing rules? Just look at the internet... for business.
/Depend on what you mean.
There is NO way to go without that or another rules.
And there is big problem -- there is NO easy ways of transitioning from one set of rules to another.


China did it pretty easily. From "free market" capitalism to "State market" capitalism. All you need is a "free market" to dump all your "State market" produced products into. See? Capitalism with a slanty-eyed face.


\\You're right. It's not ethnic. I'm not a white nationalist. Just a nationalist. America. Love it or Leave it! Ethic a-holes not welcome. Go back to your ethnic state of origin.
/That is socialist revolutioner stance. ;-P


Naaaah. That's an egalitarian- individualist stance. Equality of opportunity and justice under the law. No thumbs on scales for SoJus.


\\True dat. But ultimately... fruitless.
/Well... it depends on ability to cultivate. ;-)


Thirty+ years on the internet, and I'm still here "cultivating"... so I must be a poor model.


\\Elite a-holes just gotta be elite a-holes.
/And what is "elite"???


College educated in top 10 universities or have a graduate degree. I'm in the bottom of that class (grad degree).


\\They say that the Devil used the same trick (to convince that he's not real). ;)
/Whatever.
"Devil" is mis-interpretation of Torah story.
Product of "lost in translation".
Yawn.


Not a Gnostic heresy like mind-body dualism is to an orthodox Materialist? ;)


\\So I put mine (Deism) in the Big Bang and then leave Him there (ala Plato). ;P
/Why not?
You can do with your head whatever you like.
That's what being Human is.


Thanks, I appreciate the "tolerance". :)


You know who pastafarians are? ;-P

Yep, the chosen ones!

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Religion. The Unalienable right.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

...so take your propaganda to somewhere where alienation of beliefs is a right. ;P

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

where only "operational success" matters.

Anonymous said...

\\China did it pretty easily.

Yeah...

""
However, Mao's policies were also responsible for a vast number of deaths, with estimates ranging from 40 to 80 million victims due to starvation, persecution, prison labour, and mass executions, and his government has been described as totalitarian.

Mao Zedong - Wikipedia
Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Mao_Zedong
""

Easy as Hell. Bu-ga-gah!!! :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))




\\\\You're right. It's not ethnic. I'm not a white nationalist. Just a nationalist. America. Love it or Leave it! Ethic a-holes not welcome. Go back to your ethnic state of origin.
/That is socialist revolutioner stance. ;-P

\\Naaaah. That's an egalitarian- individualist stance. Equality of opportunity and justice under the law. No thumbs on scales for SoJus.

With NO power to make it true... ;-P

Only through Revolution, of that kind or another.




\\Thirty+ years on the internet, and I'm still here "cultivating"... so I must be a poor model.

Well... and who said that should be easy?




\\College educated in top 10 universities or have a graduate degree. I'm in the bottom of that class (grad degree).

Pft!




\\Not a Gnostic heresy like mind-body dualism is to an orthodox Materialist? ;)

Everything is Idealism, remember? ;-P

Because that same device that produce it all -- brains, are Idealistic Device, by Design.





\\Thanks, I appreciate the "tolerance". :)

Not tolerance. Freedom. ;-)

As in "Free Beer -- Here!" ;-P




\\Yep, the chosen ones!

Naaah. That's Radical Heretical Sect of Tin-Heads. ;-P

TRUE Pastafarians... NOT like that. ;-)



-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\China did it pretty easily.
/Yeah...
""
However, Mao's policies were also responsible for a vast number of deaths, with estimates ranging from 40 to 80 million victims due to starvation, persecution, prison labour, and mass executions, and his government has been described as totalitarian.
Mao Zedong - Wikipedia
Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Mao_Zedong
""
Easy as Hell. Bu-ga-gah!!! :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))


I was referring to after Nixon gifted the American consumer market to China in '73 and put US domestic manufacturing out of business.


\\\\You're right. It's not ethnic. I'm not a white nationalist. Just a nationalist. America. Love it or Leave it! Ethic a-holes not welcome. Go back to your ethnic state of origin.
/That is socialist revolutioner stance. ;-P
\\Naaaah. That's an egalitarian- individualist stance. Equality of opportunity and justice under the law. No thumbs on scales for SoJus.
/With NO power to make it true... ;-P
Only through Revolution, of that kind or another.


Naah. US Civil War 1861-5. Except Democrats couldn't let go, so they implemented "Jim Crow Laws" at the State level until 1964-5 Civil Rights Acts and feds began to meddle in EVERYTHING (ie Roe vs. Wade 1973).


\\Thirty+ years on the internet, and I'm still here "cultivating"... so I must be a poor model.
/Well... and who said that should be easy?


Lots of trial and error, that's for sure.


\\College educated in top 10 universities or have a graduate degree. I'm in the bottom of that class (grad degree).
/Pft!


Inside edge?


\\Not a Gnostic heresy like mind-body dualism is to an orthodox Materialist? ;)
/Everything is Idealism, remember? ;-P
Because that same device that produce it all -- brains, are Idealistic Device, by Design.


Spoken like a true Young Hegelian.


\\Thanks, I appreciate the "tolerance". :)
/Not tolerance. Freedom. ;-)
As in "Free Beer -- Here!" ;-P


The high costs of "free" again... It takes at least one rule/ law to transform "freedom" into "liberty". That's what the US Constitution was for. Like "all drive on the right side of the road" makes it harder to crash... yet still pretty much "freedom of travel". :(


\\Yep, the chosen ones!
/Naaah. That's Radical Heretical Sect of Tin-Heads. ;-P
TRUE Pastafarians... NOT like that. ;-)


Mo one EVER has the TRUE religion. Jesus was the ONLY "true" Christian, after all. He was the "unit" for "Christian" (like a Greek 1).

Anonymous said...

\\I was referring to after Nixon gifted the American consumer market to China in '73 and put US domestic manufacturing out of business.

Yeah... and how many Chineses (and Uygurs) have died in a process... who cares??? ;-P



\\Only through Revolution, of that kind or another.

\\Naah. US Civil War 1861-5.

Yap. Contr-Revolution. ;-P




\\Lots of trial and error, that's for sure.

Well...

it could be mitigated with scientifical. And scaled up with technological. Methods.

But... you prefer "my granpa" ways. ;-P






\\Spoken like a true Young Hegelian.

:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))0

Oh, so Cybernetics have had such a deep roots? ;-P





\\The high costs of "free" again... It takes at least one rule/ law to transform "freedom" into "liberty". That's what the US Constitution was for. Like "all drive on the right side of the road" makes it harder to crash... yet still pretty much "freedom of travel". :(

No pain, no gain.




\\Mo one EVER has the TRUE religion. Jesus was the ONLY "true" Christian, after all. He was the "unit" for "Christian" (like a Greek 1).

You gotcha. ;-)



-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\I was referring to after Nixon gifted the American consumer market to China in '73 and put US domestic manufacturing out of business.
/Yeah... and how many Chineses (and Uygurs) have died in a process... who cares??? ;-P


More than one died, only fellow Uygers care. The point is, once that market is gone, so is "authoritarian State capitalism". Without the dying middle class, the economy dies, for there are no "consumers".


\\Only through Revolution, of that kind or another.
\\Naah. US Civil War 1861-5.
Yap. Contr-Revolution. ;-P


Naaah. Industrial Revolution. Mfg vs. Agriculture.


\\Lots of trial and error, that's for sure.
/Well...
it could be mitigated with scientifical. And scaled up with technological. Methods.
But... you prefer "my granpa" ways. ;-P


I don't do mass production. I prefer Etsy style boutique enterprises. One customer at a time... ;)


\\Spoken like a true Young Hegelian.
/:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))0
Oh, so Cybernetics have had such a deep roots? ;-P


Stafford Beer isn't THAT old.


\\The high costs of "free" again... It takes at least one rule/ law to transform "freedom" into "liberty". That's what the US Constitution was for. Like "all drive on the right side of the road" makes it harder to crash... yet still pretty much "freedom of travel". :(
/No pain, no gain.


Hard to live without a paradox, it seems.


\\Mo one EVER has the TRUE religion. Jesus was the ONLY "true" Christian, after all. He was the "unit" for "Christian" (like a Greek 1).
/You gotcha. ;-)


So many -isms (over 6b and counting). One wonder why we need to make up extra words to describe singular mental properties. Is it because Communism was a Marx-Engels collaboration?

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

lol!

from wiki on Beer...

Stafford Beer coined and frequently used the term POSIWID (the purpose of a system is what it does) to refer to the commonly observed phenomenon that the de facto purpose of a system is often at odds with its official purpose. In an address to the University of Valladolid, Spain in October 2001, he said "According to the cybernetician the purpose of a system is what it does. This is a basic dictum. It stands for bald fact, which makes a better starting point in seeking understanding than the familiar attributions of good intention, prejudices about expectations, moral judgment or sheer ignorance of circumstances."[15] This principle has been used to describe Social Machines as intelligent, for example in the case of "games with a purpose",[16] and it provides a link between AI and cybernetics.

So many words... for 'Acta non Verba'.

Anonymous said...

\\ The point is, once that market is gone, so is "authoritarian State capitalism". Without the dying middle class, the economy dies, for there are no "consumers".

Yeah.

But that would make lots of "faithful servants of a Master"... ready to go tight row in direction of machine guns.

Like it was in Nazi Germany, and now in RFia... and most probably, China is next.

Yawn.




\\Naaah. Industrial Revolution. Mfg vs. Agriculture.

That one ended long ago... yawn.




\\I don't do mass production. I prefer Etsy style boutique enterprises. One customer at a time... ;)

Yeah.

Master craftsman.

Designated to die out from starvation... in absence of customers.

Or... be conscripted to go in tight rows...



\\Stafford Beer isn't THAT old.

Yet one gullible westerner.

Yawn.



\\One wonder why we need to make up extra words to describe singular mental properties. Is it because Communism was a Marx-Engels collaboration?

Who knows...



\\refer to the commonly observed phenomenon that the de facto purpose of a system is often at odds with its official purpose.

Yeah.

Traditional social system hypocrisy. ;-P




\\So many words... for 'Acta non Verba'.

If you say so.

Yawn.










-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\ The point is, once that market is gone, so is "authoritarian State capitalism". Without the dying middle class, the economy dies, for there are no "consumers".
/Yeah.
But that would make lots of "faithful servants of a Master"... ready to go tight row in direction of machine guns.
Like it was in Nazi Germany, and now in RFia... and most probably, China is next.
Yawn.


Yawn. There she goes!


\\Naaah. Industrial Revolution. Mfg vs. Agriculture.
/That one ended long ago... yawn.


Did it? Join the Blob and own the world. Just make "The Blob" connection.


\\I don't do mass production. I prefer Etsy style boutique enterprises. One customer at a time... ;)
/Yeah.
Master craftsman.
Designated to die out from starvation... in absence of customers.
Or... be conscripted to go in tight rows...


Retired from the "tight row" group.


\\Stafford Beer isn't THAT old.
/Yet one gullible westerner.
Yawn.


Your aspirational role model, for joining a "tight group", perhaps?


\\One wonder why we need to make up extra words to describe singular mental properties. Is it because Communism was a Marx-Engels collaboration?
/Who knows...


The Subject supposed to know (expert)? Gnothi Seauton. It's the "Enlightenment' way.


\\refer to the commonly observed phenomenon that the de facto purpose of a system is often at odds with its official purpose.
/Yeah.
Traditional social system hypocrisy. ;-P


...or "getting the pork bill through Congress".


\\So many words... for 'Acta non Verba'.
/If you say so.
Yawn.


Now just one. POSIWID. Or 7? It's all in the "chunking".

Anonymous said...

\\Yawn. There she goes!

Good news.

Means... there'd be enough of that who'd be ready to go in direction of machine guns... in tight rows. Like that Captain America given to em as example. ;-P

Exactly when they'd be useful for a war.

Well... NEW tech could spare em from it... but, yawn, you not interested.





\\Did it? Join the Blob and own the world. Just make "The Blob" connection.

Of course... not in all World simultaneously.

As there still even foster tribes exist. ;-P

Thank you for correcting me.



\\Retired from the "tight row" group.

Well... yawn... repairing of tools of that who'd be in tight rows -- needed too.




\\\\Stafford Beer isn't THAT old.
/Yet one gullible westerner.
Yawn.

\\Your aspirational role model, for joining a "tight group", perhaps?

Dunno, how it *relates*???









-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\Yawn. There she goes!
/Good news.
Means... there'd be enough of that who'd be ready to go in direction of machine guns... in tight rows. Like that Captain America given to em as example. ;-P
Exactly when they'd be useful for a war.
Well... NEW tech could spare em from it... but, yawn, you not interested.


You have a mind changing brain-wave device? Why didn't you say so? I thought all the lemmings operating on the basis of sea-water smell.... not brains.


\\Did it? Join the Blob and own the world. Just make "The Blob" connection.
/Of course... not in all World simultaneously.
As there still even foster tribes exist. ;-P
Thank you for correcting me.


I am a farmer after all (-FJ Farmer John). :)


\\Retired from the "tight row" group.
/Well... yawn... repairing of tools of that who'd be in tight rows -- needed too.


It's a good thing I got he torpedo's shock back in '01 then. Or I'd have never have needed to turn towards and learn the 'psych'.


\\\\Stafford Beer isn't THAT old.
/Yet one gullible westerner.
Yawn.
\\Your aspirational role model, for joining a "tight group", perhaps?
/Dunno, how it *relates*???


You don't want to sell your tech to the tight group? I'll cancel your appointment with Elon then... ;p

Anonymous said...

\\You have a mind changing brain-wave device? Why didn't you say so? I thought all the lemmings operating on the basis of sea-water smell.... not brains.

You know my proposal.

Or... I can explain it again. In more details.

Give me such pleasure.





\\I am a farmer after all (-FJ Farmer John). :)

Then... you must be know how to "cultiuvate"?




\\It's a good thing I got he torpedo's shock back in '01 then. Or I'd have never have needed to turn towards and learn the 'psych'.

We all have this or that half-turns or even U-turns... during our life.




\\You don't want to sell your tech to the tight group? I'll cancel your appointment with Elon then... ;p

:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

I WISH I had that kind of influence. Sorry. :(

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

...and MOTHERS DAY. Gotta run, soon.

Anonymous said...

Elon is a rotten fruit already, I think.

Too drunk of power and drowning in schemes already.

Like... that scandal with StarLinks given to RFia.

And his babbling in his X.

I think that is deliberate -- for him to look apologetic to liliPut.

While same time use structure of StarLink to sew that information streams through NSA or CIA or whatever... how do you think?

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

I'm sure NSA grabs every message... and Russia knows it.

Anonymous said...

Yeah... but still allows.

Does they use some secret language? ;-P

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

If they want to plant false stories, they've certainly the means. And yes, they likely encrypt the heck out of it.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Communications patterns for false activity?

Anonymous said...

I was referring to your windtalkers. ;-)


Windtalkers
Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › ...
It is based on the real story of code talkers from the Navajo nation during World War II. The film was theatrically released in the United States on June 14 ...

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Naaah. Computers could probably crack a language if it were unencrypted. But then again, you'd know better than I.

Anonymous said...

HOW????

If you don't have vocabulary??? ;-P

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Develop a context. Read the acta and back-link to the verba.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Kinda like an enhanced J-STARS.

Anonymous said...

\\Develop a context.

like you did with that "shit in an ice hole"??? :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Is there still a piece of it stuck to your *ss????

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Next time use a Japanese WARM-water toilet.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

:P

Anonymous said...

:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

...Fargin' ice holes!

Anonymous said...

;-P

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Wish it had English subtitles! wtf?

Anonymous said...

Is there no on-line translation???

Sorry.

Well... self-revealing sarcasm movie.

Like your "Hot heads".

Maybe even inspired by it... I dunno.

Full of inner jokes... but hardly translation would help much.


PS It was suggested by YouTube algo... so, don't look at me like that.

Da Fk how I should know why it appears in right panel of links YOU provided here. ;-P

Anonymous said...

Short synopsis.

Bunch of Russian conscripts going into Russian Army.

To meet usual "life-changing" experiences there: dumb officers, doing stupid and boring chores, endeavoring into some silly "adventures" with military equipment, listening to mumbling about grandeour and "we'll burn All of The Wolrd"... from drunkards.

Military "romantics", so to say. ;-P

Anonymous said...

Here... https://youtu.be/cVyDqY56yL0 with subs.

Have you not mastered it... yet???

Just copy-paste name... and add "in english".

Oh... yeah, you have not need to learn such tricks.

Same like "free download", "watch online for free" or "torrent". ;-P

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

...How many damn "credits" does this move have?

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

BWAH! "Nothing to lose"...

Anonymous said...

More like something like that -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Army_Now_(film)

Russians... such a copycats. Watched it, and decided to make their OWN. ;-P

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Yeah, Stripes went WAY over my head, too... ;)