“They saw their injured country's woe;
The flaming town, the wasted field;
Then rushed to meet the insulting foe;
They took the spear, - but left the shield.”
―Philip Freneau
Saturday, July 20, 2024
Achieving Information Superiority by Suspending Judgement?...
Aspects of Xenia?
...and Detecting Variations from Baselines... Cal Lightman, what country are you visiting today?
So, story is short -- two prominent brainiaks found themself in a desolation land, caught by "information bandit" that wanted ALL valuable information from em.
And as they are so smart -- it would take ages to accomplish that, they, as technologists too -- devised to give instead a DEVICE that can give ALL information...
punchline -- nobody needs THAT MUCH information. ;-P
No, Prometheus stole fire from the gods and gave it to man. It's where all your "tech" comes from.
And you should read the original (Prometheus Bound) and also the story of how he originally corrected Epimetheus' (After-thought's) mistake in the creation of man. ;)
The "Prometheus Bound" of Æschylus supposed the reconciliation of Jupiter with his victim as the price of the disclosure of the danger threatened to his empire by the consummation of his marriage with Thetis. Thetis, according to this view of the subject, was given in marriage to Peleus, and Prometheus, by the permission of Jupiter, delivered from his captivity by Hercules. Had I framed my story on this model, I should have done no more than have attempted to restore the lost drama of Æschylus; an ambition which, if my preference to this mode of treating the subject had incited me to cherish, the recollection of the high comparison such an attempt would challenge might well abate. But, in truth, I was averse from a catastrophe so feeble as that of reconciling the Champion with the Oppressor of mankind. The moral interest of the fable, which is so powerfully sustained by the sufferings and endurance of Prometheus, would be annihilated if we could conceive of him as unsaying his high language and quailing before his successful and perfidious adversary
To seize Kairos you must be promethean (use forethought) not epimethean (use after-thought). Opportunity must be seized from the front, with promethean forethought.
I've NO proficiency for military strategy... my only lesson was in my Naval Weapons class...
"Tactics is dropping napalm on a Vietnamese village... Strategy is dropping a box of candy bars in the village, waiting for all the kids to gather, and THEN dropping the napalm on the assembled villagers.
One short story from Lem.
ReplyDeleteAbout "very intellectual" bandit -- that decided that robbing people of valuable information -- is much more daunting method of doing his business...
yawn.
...and one from Suzanne Collins
ReplyDeletePft!
ReplyDeleteWell... can't find translation.
ReplyDeleteSo, story is short -- two prominent brainiaks found themself in a desolation land, caught by "information bandit" that wanted ALL valuable information from em.
And as they are so smart -- it would take ages to accomplish that, they, as technologists too -- devised to give instead a DEVICE that can give ALL information...
punchline -- nobody needs THAT MUCH information. ;-P
Tell THAT to the NSA and Thiel.
ReplyDeleteWhat for???
ReplyDeleteWell... as Lem wisely stated in other his story "One need to be wise themself... to listen to wise advices".
Yawn.
Well, will retell it too, to save time.
One of that higher said brainiaks found himself in a totalitarian country.
And to find way out -- there is only choice -- to please the King. Obviously.
And he did it... with yet one DEVICE.
This time -- a computer assistant for that King.
And gave to it all his knowledge (as you cannot give MORE Knowledge than you have, obviously).
But... what do you know -- how that King paid to his benefactor?
Yeah. Ordered to throw him out.
So... brainiak harbored a grudge on that King. And decided to revange.
But... HOW???? As that assistant are the SAME smart as him -- any his smart move will be dispelled immediately.
So... let's try your imagination here -- what would YOU do? ;-)
Built another identical device for the king's enemy?
ReplyDeleteMade a silly-nasty TikTok dance making fun of the king?
ReplyDelete...crapped in a paper bag, set it on fire, and rang the king's doorbell?
ReplyDeleteI give up.
\\Built another identical device for the king's enemy?
ReplyDeleteNo Enemy.
He is Totalitarian Ruler.
Yawn.
Next try.
\\Made a silly-nasty TikTok dance making fun of the king?
Well.. that would be BEYOND genius of Lem -- if he could PREDICT TikTok. (well, he did, kinda)
Next try.
\\...crapped in a paper bag, set it on fire, and rang the king's doorbell?
\\I give up.
Yeah.
That's because you like to talk about this and that being totalitarian/re-education and etc.
But in reality, know very little -- how and why it really works.
Well.
Plan was very simple and genius. And subsumed in that maxima I stated before -- "one need to be smart, to listen to smart advices".
He directed his plan NOT on his assistant, but on the King himself -- made him doubt that Assistant is fully loyal.
And... after that that King by himself destroyed that Assistant. For the "breach of security" that never happened.
Brainiank became able to use his hei... ehm, ingeniuos plans over King. ;-P
Oh, "Prometheus Bound"... gotchya. But that's not "science fiction". That's "classical tragedy".
ReplyDelete...and it help to have perfect fore-sight.
ReplyDelete...and knowledge that totalitarians, like the heads of god pantheons, hate the thought of being deposed (like they had deposed their predecessors).
ReplyDelete...having their genital cast into the Sea.
Mighty Aphrodite! The end of "drive" and birth of "desire" (from the 'Other') Metamorphosis complete!
\\Oh, "Prometheus Bound"... gotchya. But that's not "science fiction". That's "classical tragedy".
ReplyDeleteWell... Lem's text are more like parables, than sci-fi... but.
I totally DUNNO how what I read and tried to rephrase here -- can be seen like that other text.
That brainiak did not took place of that King. And not dethroned him. And not given anything to people...
Just... humiliated. And looted for some gold. Yawn.
PS Well... you just confirmed that you too drowned in superficial.
Ordinary sensory stimulus do not work on you -- everything need to be in OVER_UPPER-UTTER state...
to sway you.
Yawn.
I see...
No, Prometheus stole fire from the gods and gave it to man. It's where all your "tech" comes from.
ReplyDeleteAnd you should read the original (Prometheus Bound) and also the story of how he originally corrected Epimetheus' (After-thought's) mistake in the creation of man. ;)
...and of course, the story of Zeus' revenge... Pandora.
ReplyDeleteHmmm I heard a slightly different version.
ReplyDeleteLike Shelley's "Prometheus Unbound"... a take on Aeschylus' lost version?
ReplyDelete...but different
ReplyDeleteThe "Prometheus Bound" of Æschylus supposed the reconciliation of Jupiter with his victim as the price of the disclosure of the danger threatened to his empire by the consummation of his marriage with Thetis. Thetis, according to this view of the subject, was given in marriage to Peleus, and Prometheus, by the permission of Jupiter, delivered from his captivity by Hercules. Had I framed my story on this model, I should have done no more than have attempted to restore the lost drama of Æschylus; an ambition which, if my preference to this mode of treating the subject had incited me to cherish, the recollection of the high comparison such an attempt would challenge might well abate. But, in truth, I was averse from a catastrophe so feeble as that of reconciling the Champion with the Oppressor of mankind. The moral interest of the fable, which is so powerfully sustained by the sufferings and endurance of Prometheus, would be annihilated if we could conceive of him as unsaying his high language and quailing before his successful and perfidious adversary
btw - Thetis is also the mother of Achilles who dipped him in the Styx and held him by his "heel"?
ReplyDelete...and of course, Themis (Justice) is one of Thetis' many sisters, daughters of Ocean.
ReplyDelete\\No, Prometheus stole fire from the gods and gave it to man. It's where all your "tech" comes from.
ReplyDeleteWhatever.
Yawn.
That is just a story told around campfire.
And as some smart people found -- scenerious of such talks, any stories at all -- are limited.
So... that is TOTALLY not surprising, that it is possible to take confuse one such story... with totally another.
Yawn.
Nails to keep the portrait of Daedalus from running away.
ReplyDelete:-)))
ReplyDeleteMy nails are older than yours... Lindy-tested.
ReplyDeleteWell... there is a way (I think) to make it on your retina... that way it will not "run away" from you. EVER!
ReplyDelete\\My nails are older than yours... Lindy-tested.
ReplyDeleteAnd rusted out.
Yawn.
Do you have experience with rusted metal?
It holds... until it not. ;-P
Like in Kafka's "In the Penal Colony"? Or the movie "Memento"?
ReplyDeleteYou're the guy in the Memento film!
ReplyDeleteOkay, maybe I am...
ReplyDeleteanterograde amnesia, which means he can't form new memories or retain short-term memories ;P
...but at least I know that the memories that I do have are "authentic" (and not from the Matrix).
ReplyDeleteOn second though, we're ALL "bladerunners". I'm just an older model.
ReplyDelete...who am I trying to kid (myself).
ReplyDelete...at least I sport a cool "Spartan" haircut! ;)
ReplyDelete\\You're the guy in the Memento film!
ReplyDeletePft!
\\...but at least I know that the memories that I do have are "authentic" (and not from the Matrix).
Pft!
...with no fear of being "taken over from behind" like Kyros. ;p
ReplyDelete????
ReplyDeleteSpartans had long hair that hung down their backs. Kyros has a fore-lock that can only be grabbed from the front.
ReplyDeleteA Spartan will never turn his back on you.
They never "break and run".
ReplyDeleteThe back of Kyros head was shaved. He could easily "run away from you" and you'd have no hair to grab.
ReplyDeleteTo seize Kairos you must be promethean (use forethought) not epimethean (use after-thought). Opportunity must be seized from the front, with promethean forethought.
ReplyDeleteFortune favours the brave!
ReplyDeleteNot CIA/ DoS idiots.
Well...
ReplyDeleteThe time to catch Putin was when he invaded. He's LONG past, leaving trail of Ukrainian bodies behind him.
ReplyDeletePft!
ReplyDeleteFor whom?
For what?
How much are your proficiency in military strategy (for at least)???
Well... that was BEST chance for USA, to demonstrate own proves.
ReplyDeleteBut... that chance, far long as gone -- that for at least you got right.
But... it doesn't matter anymore.
Third World War already started.
And... same as Second World War -- there is NO ONE who'd know how to collect that crawling in all directions worms... back into that box.
Yawn.
I've NO proficiency for military strategy... my only lesson was in my Naval Weapons class...
ReplyDelete"Tactics is dropping napalm on a Vietnamese village... Strategy is dropping a box of candy bars in the village, waiting for all the kids to gather, and THEN dropping the napalm on the assembled villagers.
Yeah...
ReplyDeleteYou're the one fighting in WWI trenches with drones, not me. btw - How's that "strategy" working out for ya?
ReplyDeleteYeah... over you ICBMs will be flying...
ReplyDeleteI just look *strategically* at it -- what would happen if North America suddenly disappear from map???
And see no drawbacks for RFia and PRCia.
Only TONS of BENEFITS.
Whole World would fall to their feet.
Especially... as it seems that USAians became chicken.
ReplyDeleteAnd ready to provide such a TONS of BENEFITS even without fight.
Just because of becoming utterly sissy-pussy pushovers.
Yawn.
So... even no ICBMs needed. Just making crazy eyes and saying "Boo!" in their direction.
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ReplyDeleteNaaah, nukes are "strategic" only when they're still in their silos. Once their in the air, they become tactical. ;P
ReplyDeleteYour USA general NEVER will make your "strategical" nukes into "tactical".
ReplyDeleteYawn.
Because... "prostate cutting" operation performed on them all.
To suit their new prostate-less przident-ass... yawn.