“They saw their injured country's woe;
The flaming town, the wasted field;
Then rushed to meet the insulting foe;
They took the spear, - but left the shield.”
―Philip Freneau
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And by a prudent flight and cunning save A life which valour could not, from the grave. A better buckler I can soon regain, But who can get another life again?
Archilochus
Friday, December 27, 2024
Visualizing Dark Matter: The Bullet Cluster
31 comments:
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Like that ether of old times? Well, maybe new theory already here but blocked by nasty censors.
Maybe not censors... but lacking intellectually honest readers/ listeners. Readers/ listeners willing to oppose and control their own mimetic desires, and and not succumb to them (ala Peter before/ after the cock crows). Readers willing to abandon Standard Science, and embrace the "Revolutionary" kind ;)
Inertia. Most powerfull force in the Universe. Thought, overlooked by everyone everytime. Inertia to blame.
Well, it's interesting thing in itself -- how low quality connection and all that newly built tenets of censure nearly eliminate our chance to communicate.
And that in the Internet, that was built to live through nukelar war... but, unable to deliver... due to modern censure.
Inertia to blame. ;-p
Hah. naZZty ceneZZors trying to prevent our communication. Or what?
Like that e-ther theory of old times? Well, maybe new theory already here but blockked by naZZty ceneZZors.
/...Or what? Great TikToker... already... maybe. Sorry, I'm out of sync with latest trends. Inertia... to blame. ;-p
Cultural inertia... @@
//String Theory was/ is the block... /We can seek only under lantern. So, physicists know (learned that from Einstain) that to open New Phisics one need to start from Failed Experiment (like that one for searching e-ter). But... too bad. Nobody said that it should be THAT simple. Inertia to blame. ;-p Or Comppexity. Or, Cosmic Bureacracy.))) Well. I have had explained to you a way how to overcome it. But it found your disinterest only. Inertia...
...much as some of my ideas like different forms of intelligences remained out of your "light cone". I suppose we all suffer from our own forms of inertia...
/Well. It turns us back to our previous talks. Arguing around tryes to find some golden nuggets on the trash/grave yard of human culture. I,while basing my arguments on Lem's teachings, cleverly ;-p was pointing that that is not possible to find new senses, new answers while inside culture. As bird chick... while inside egg shell, using its sole teath to break it. To meet NEW. Which could kill it. So, what's the merit of your way?
SchizoAnalysis? You do think and approach problems a bit differently... which can change the subject. ;0
/BTW, that Gert? He's not new here?
No, he's very old. He's a European, like you (Belgium/UK) and VERY smart (except for his Left politics... ;) I've known him for 15-20 years now???
//Will LISA reveal Dark Energy in the waves/ ripples of the cosmos? I wonder... /Yeah. Failed Experiment Seeking. Yawn.
Best tell NASA and ESA to save their billions? Inertia is already unstoppable...
No doubt. It doesn't 'narrate' threatenly enough... ;)
//...by not going along with the crowd. ;P \And there is a way how to walk along with a crowd? ;-p Yawn. I mean. Reliably. Without going out of sync with one part, or another. ;-)
...and later getting denounced and killed/ expelled by them. ;0
Nah, best to walk away, and into the desert/ become a nomad. But then you'd be practicing your nomadology, taking new lines of flight, and seeking new deterritorializations and reterritorializations until one day, you meet another nomad...
What schizoanalysis lacks in purposefullness and clarity of outcomes, it makes up for in varieties of experiences on encounters, much like a certain William James text... ;)
//...much as some of my ideas like different forms of intelligences remained out of your "light cone".
"There is NO Intelligence, if there are intelligences of different sizes and forms."
Not my words, Lem's. As his alter-ego wise supercomputer Golem XIV.
Do I need to explain at length meaning of it? Do you have time and patience... to listen?
//SchizoAnalysis? You do think and approach problems a bit differently... which can change the subject. ;0
Brick and mortar. Trial and error method. @@
While there is ready made theory. Do you know, heard about Theory of Engineeeing? Devised in USSR.
Obviously you not. But can google for yourself -- TRIZ(ТРИЗ) in accordance with my knowledge there is materials in English too, already.
//and VERY smart
That's, most enticing. ;-p
//Best tell NASA and ESA to save their billions? Inertia is already unstoppable...
Whatever. Judo moves use it just great. ;-)
//No doubt. It doesn't 'narrate' threatenly enough... ;)
Whatever.
Einstain's Letter... was not threating too. Only... informative.
But those who close ears to not hear it -- suffer greatly.
//...and later getting denounced and killed/ expelled by them. ;0
It happens anyway. And complitely randomly. Yawn.(what is the latest mass-shooting case? I lost track of it)
So, why bother?
//What schizoanalysis lacks in purposefullness and clarity of outcomes, it makes up for in varieties of experiences on encounters, much like a certain William James text... ;)
Yawn, illusion.
You seems like do not understand importance of Failed Experiment. And Truth behind it.
Though, it's so damn simple -- Reality IS CONTER-intuitive.So, lesson is apparent -- if you REALLY want to know what/how Reality is -- watch out for your Blind Spots.
No. Catch em. Put into GITMO. ;-p And interrogate. Thoroughly.:-)))
//...much as some of my ideas like different forms of intelligences remained out of your "light cone". \"There is NO Intelligence, if there are intelligences of different sizes and forms." Not my words, Lem's. As his alter-ego wise supercomputer Golem XIV. Do I need to explain at length meaning of it? Do you have time and patience... to listen?
Maybe, once I return from Solaris with a "higher" form and can advise as to the form required for your Ovo prject.
//SchizoAnalysis? You do think and approach problems a bit differently... which can change the subject. ;0 \Brick and mortar. Trial and error method. @@ While there is ready made theory. Do you know, heard about Theory of Engineeeing? Devised in USSR. Obviously you not. But can google for yourself -- TRIZ(ТРИЗ) in accordance with my knowledge there is materials in English too, already.
The Theory of Inventive Problem Solving , or TRIZ , is a set of methods for solving and improving technical problems and systems by finding and resolving technical contradictions. [ 1 ] In English, in addition to the transliteration, TRIZ is known by the acronym TIPS , which stands for theory of inventive problem solving .
The idea of TRIZ is that different technical problems are technical contradictions that can be solved by the same methods. To solve a specific problem, TRIZ users first generalize the problem, then try to solve the generalized problem using a suitable general method, and only then return to the specific problem and try to apply the solution found to it [ 1 ] .
TRIZ is based on 40 general inventive techniques, 76 standard solution templates and several other ideas.
Sounds like Schizo-Analysis (creating, then finding and resolving contradictions)
//and VERY smart \That's, most enticing. ;-p
His IQ is at least 2 SD's above mine.
//Best tell NASA and ESA to save their billions? Inertia is already unstoppable... /Whatever. Judo moves use it just great. ;-)
Math judo? It will be needed to translate between the two standard models. :)
//No doubt. It doesn't 'narrate' threatenly enough... ;) \Whatever. Einstain's Letter... was not threating too. Only... informative. But those who close ears to not hear it -- suffer greatly.
FDR certainly 'heard' the threats......This phenomenon would also lead to the construction of bombs, and it is conceivable—though much less certain—that extremely powerful bombs of a new type may thus be constructed. A single bomb of this type, carried by boat and exploded in a port, might very well destroy the whole port together with some of the surrounding territory. However, such bombs might very well prove to be too heavy for transportation by air.
The United States has only very poor ores of uranium in moderate quantities. There is some good ore in Canada and the former Czechoslovakia, while the most important source of uranium is Belgian Congo. [...]
...I understand that Germany has actually stopped the sale of uranium from the Czechoslovakian mines which she has taken over. That she should have taken such early action might perhaps be understood on the ground that the son of the German Under-Secretary of State, von Weizsäcker, is attached to the Kaiser-Wilhelm-Institut in Berlin where some of the American work on uranium is now being repeated.
Yours very truly,
Albert Einstein
//...and later getting denounced and killed/ expelled by them. ;0 \It happens anyway. And complitely randomly. Yawn.(what is the latest mass-shooting case? I lost track of it) So, why bother?
Violence is the 'symbolism' one resorts to when words no longer serve as an expressive metaphor.
//What schizoanalysis lacks in purposefullness and clarity of outcomes, it makes up for in varieties of experiences on encounters, much like a certain William James text... ;) \Yawn, illusion. You seems like do not understand importance of Failed Experiment. And Truth behind it. Though, it's so damn simple -- Reality IS CONTER-intuitive.So, lesson is apparent -- if you REALLY want to know what/how Reality is -- watch out for your Blind Spots.
And you seem to not understand the importance of creating a new hypothesis to explain the reason for the experiments failure... of re-framing it???
\No. Catch em. Put into GITMO. ;-p And interrogate. Thoroughly.:-))) But... simplicity, is the hardest thing.
I agree. Morality can prevent one from achieving 'Operational Success'. Trying to preserve a field of 'negative liberty' for the members of a society (or humanity itself) can be a real b*tch. Because once you resort to Coercion (the 'C' in RICE), there's no returning to "trust". And once the Nocturnal Council is exposed to daylight... they can't be unseen again.
//Sounds like Schizo-Analysis (creating, then finding and resolving contradictions)
Yeah.
Everything resembles everything.
That sort of... wisdom.
Yawn.
//His IQ is at least 2 SD's above mine.
Yeah.
I don't care if he Elgernon.
Yawn.
////Best tell NASA and ESA to save their billions? Inertia is already unstoppable... /Whatever. Judo moves use it just great. ;-)
//Math judo? It will be needed to translate between the two standard models. :)
Naaah.
My point was just that Inertia have no own agency. And so, is up to how WE will use it. If we smart enough.
And well... my point is that not math, but shaping of all our understanding needed.
Math. We know lots of that M-things.
And nothing about how to shape our minds.
Yawn.
//FDR certainly 'heard' the threats
Not from Eini. That's it.
//Violence is the 'symbolism' one resorts to when words no longer serve as an expressive metaphor.
Dunno how mass-shooting is violence.
I still under my hypothesis that it is just a media-effect.
Just like sharpshooters of the past. All that Bills and Kids. Your MSM just burgeoning on.
Yawn.
//And you seem to not understand the importance of creating a new hypothesis to explain the reason for the experiments failure... of re-framing it???
Read Feinman. He explained it most comprehansively.
AFAIK there is even video explanation.
Hypothesis... is a dirt.
Golden nuggets. They are something different.
//Morality can prevent one from achieving 'Operational Success'.
Whatever.
If for example experiment needs human fat... it do not mean that questions only Osventsim are only possible solution.Most surely there is multitude of ways to workaround it.
Another word, if someone arguing about morality -- he either just want excuse for violance... or, just lazy.))))
And. That was about ideas in your mind -- go say that you not free with harboring watever ideas you like... inside your mind. ;-)
//Sounds like Schizo-Analysis (creating, then finding and resolving contradictions) \Yeah. Everything resembles everything. That sort of... wisdom. Yawn.
What's language but ears translating for eyes written messages nose and tongue are sending about taste.
//His IQ is at least 2 SD's above mine. \Yeah. I don't care if he Elgernon. Yawn.
You won't be sending him flowers?
////Best tell NASA and ESA to save their billions? Inertia is already unstoppable... /Whatever. Judo moves use it just great. ;-) //Math judo? It will be needed to translate between the two standard models. :) \Naaah. My point was just that Inertia have no own agency. And so, is up to how WE will use it. If we smart enough. And well... my point is that not math, but shaping of all our understanding needed. Math. We know lots of that M-things. And nothing about how to shape our minds. Yawn.
Not even Musk's "Neuralink"? Not even meth? Heroin? Mescal? I should get a refund for all that Effexor I took in/ after the mental hospital in 2001.
//FDR certainly 'heard' the threats \Not from Eini. That's it.
No German insinuations? huh!
//Violence is the 'symbolism' one resorts to when words no longer serve as an expressive metaphor. /Dunno how mass-shooting is violence. I still under my hypothesis that it is just a media-effect. Just like sharpshooters of the past. All that Bills and Kids. Your MSM just burgeoning on. Yawn.
We should ask the cells that the bullets hit in the victims. But yes, the media hyperreality surrounding the shootings can be a bit over-the-top. Symbolic violence.
//And you seem to not understand the importance of creating a new hypothesis to explain the reason for the experiments failure... of re-framing it??? \Read Feinman. He explained it most comprehansively. AFAIK there is even video explanation. Hypothesis... is a dirt. Golden nuggets. They are something different.
Aren't they the origins for the new hypothesis to expalin the experiment's failure? Musn't one "prospect" for them? Or must one wait to "stumble" through trial and error? "Magnesium didn't work, maybe I should try tungsten." Why not aluminum next?
//Morality can prevent one from achieving 'Operational Success'. \Whatever. If for example experiment needs human fat... it do not mean that questions only Osventsim (Ozempic?) are only possible solution.Most surely there is multitude of ways to workaround it. Another word, if someone arguing about morality -- he either just want excuse for violance... or, just lazy.))))
Fitting explanations into a single grand-narrative rather than developing a set of situational meta-narratives...
\And. That was about ideas in your mind -- go say that you not free with harboring watever ideas you like... inside your mind. ;-)
'Colour is the effluence of form, sensible, and in due proportion to the sight.'
'Figure is the only thing which always follows colour.'
'To what then do we give the name of figure? Try and answer. Suppose that when a person asked you this question either about figure or colour, you were to reply, Man, I do not understand what you want, or know what you are saying; he would look rather astonished and say: Do you not understand that I am looking for the 'simile in multis'? And then he might put the question in another form: Meno, he might say, what is that 'simile in multis' which you call figure, and which includes not only round and straight figures, but all?'
'Colour is an effluence of form, commensurate with sight, and palpable to sense.'
'I define figure to be that in which the solid ends; or, more concisely, the limit of solid.'
Peter Sloterdijk - " Languages are not primarily used for what is today called "the passing on of information", but serve to form communicating group bodies,"
//...and as my 'Juice' professor used to always say, "You can't push with a rope". \That proff... have poor imagination. That's all. Well, usual thing among proffs. (hint: froze it ;-p)
Touche!
//What's language but ears translating for eyes written messages nose and tongue are sending about taste. /Many things for many people, actually. Language.
Coded comms is the 'simuli in multis'... a 'symptom' of intelligence? Or is the "intelligence" in the decoding and perhaps re-attribution of message to the 'inside-outside' distinction?
//\Yeah. I don't care if he Elgernon. Yawn. //You won't be sending him flowers? \Heh. My joke still unseen. OK, I'll be more apparent. Supergenius mice -- still just a mice. ;-p
Mice don't know much chemistry.
//And nothing about how to shape our minds. Yawn. //Not even Musk's "Neuralink"? \How it even relates??? Do you imaging "shaping mind" as cutting brain with butchers knife??? %)
Like Freezing rope, it sounds like one way. If not shaping, at least exttending its' functions.
////FDR certainly 'heard' the threats \Not from Eini. That's it. //No German insinuations? huh! \Yap. Exactly what I meant.
Subtle threats aren't threats? Indirect speech... like a mafia enforcer's "it would be a shame if something happened to your store, mr. store owner." Negotiating a social relationship (dominance, communality, recipocracy) is the function of indirect speech. Instead of getting into an argument (help me build a bomb, dumbass) he suggests building a permission structure (you should fund somebody to study this)... (language not needed for a purely inside-inside relationship - comm handshake already there). Acta non verba. Eini didn't want to exert his intellectual dominance and 'queer the deal'.
//We should ask the cells that the bullets hit in the victims. /Yap. Especially that cells we loose all of the time. Like cells from our skin. Or... better, from rectum epitelial tissue. ;-p Their opinion very important to us.
Stress and pain are their comm systems. And you'd better listen to them, or you'll soon be dead. No other "language" needed. They're an inside-inside organ-level collaborator. Inside the epidermis, that is, not organ lining. Bio-electricity and chemistry exchange sufficient.
//Symbolic violence. \Naah. Symbolic violence that is public executions and etc. Like chants "kill dRump".
Yes - from an inside-outside comm perspective, that's what the "symbols" are needed for. The bullets themselves are more acta non verba violence. They remove the inside-outside comms distinction rather more directly by connecting them (inside-former outside).
//Aren't they the origins for the new hypothesis to expalin the experiment's failure? /Watch Feinman. Video is short. Explanation cimprehansive. And his authority more then enough. Yawn.
His repution has been marred by some recently... jes sayin.
//Fitting explanations into a single grand-narrative rather than developing a set of situational meta-narratives... /???
Pain signals... stress signals... temperature signals... exhaustion signals... etc.
//\And. That was about ideas in your mind -- go say that you not free with harboring watever ideas you like... inside your mind. ;-) //Plato, "Meno" (selected excerpts) /Yawn. Priching to a choir. Or how I should react when you return back to me my words, my argument. With brazen look "see, you overlooked that". Just because it was not written in same words, of same excerpt.
//Coded comms is the 'simuli in multis'... a 'symptom' of intelligence? Or is the "intelligence" in the decoding and perhaps re-attribution of message to the 'inside-outside' distinction?
As always -- it depend on your definition of intelligence.
//Mice don't know much chemistry.
You, just know too few of mice. ;-p
//Like Freezing rope, it sounds like one way. If not shaping, at least exttending its' functions.
Yeah.
It depend on concepts of it you harboring in your mind. That's for sure.
I. Remember concepts I have had while being a kid. What a fluffy bullshit it was. But, that that I remember it -- made me quite apologetic toward other people misconception.
Apologetic... but not all-forgiving. Hid my warning here.
//Subtle threats aren't threats? Indirect speech... like a mafia enforcer's "it would be a shame if something happened to your store, mr. store owner."
BS.
And how Eini would enforce... anything at all.))))
//Negotiating a social relationship (dominance, communality, recipocracy) is the function of indirect speech
BS.
First goes NEED of such relations.
And communication can be established even without words.
//Stress and pain are their comm systems. And you'd better listen to them, or you'll soon be dead.
Yet one BS misconception.
//His repution has been marred by some recently... jes sayin.
Yep. By jelous wimps. Yawn.
//situational meta-narratives... /???
//Pain signals... stress signals... temperature signals... exhaustion signals... etc.
Dunno how it "meta".
Meta is level ABOVE. And that describe levels under...
//I'm a pedant. Difference and repetition as a substitute for dialectic.
//Coded comms is the 'simuli in multis'... a 'symptom' of intelligence? Or is the "intelligence" in the decoding and perhaps re-attribution of message to the 'inside-outside' distinction? \As always -- it depend on your definition of intelligence.
The ability to set a goal and discover many different ways/means to achieving it. The more potentially successful ways/ means of setting/achieving the goal, the more intelligent the agent.
//Mice don't know much chemistry. \You, just know too few of mice. ;-p
But I do know some rats... ;)
//Like Freezing rope, it sounds like one way. If not shaping, at least exttending its' functions. \Yeah. It depend on concepts of it you harboring in your mind. That's for sure. I. Remember concepts I have had while being a kid. What a fluffy bullshit it was. But, that that I remember it -- made me quite apologetic toward other people misconception. Apologetic... but not all-forgiving. Hid my warning here.
It's one thing to understand. Another to act upon it. Or act 'differently' (see my definition of intelligence above)
//Subtle threats aren't threats? Indirect speech... like a mafia enforcer's "it would be a shame if something happened to your store, mr. store owner." \BS. And how Eini would enforce... anything at all.))))
Send Hitler a letter? Stalin? Churchill? FDR couldn't make an atom bomb... but Eini could. The 'power' of intelligence and knowledge... is soft power, not hard power. America is hard-kill. The UK is soft-kill. See the difference?
//Negotiating a social relationship (dominance, communality, recipocracy) is the function of indirect speech \BS. First goes NEED of such relations. And communication can be established even without words.
You are totally self-reliant? My hat goes off to you. You achieved what Kim Jung Il couldn't. Juche!
//Stress and pain are their comm systems. And you'd better listen to them, or you'll soon be dead. \Yet one BS misconception.
Fine, I'll ignore that stabbing pain in my gut and NOT go to see a doctor.
//His repution has been marred by some recently... jes sayin. /Yep. By jelous wimps. Yawn.
Maybe. Some also not so wimpy... like the String Theory Normal Science community still ascendent.
//situational meta-narratives... /??? //Pain signals... stress signals... temperature signals... exhaustion signals... etc. Dunno how it "meta". Meta is level ABOVE. And that describe levels under...
Meta is also "many" and not just "one" as in Universal. ie - Pantheism. Meta-Physics isn't just a belief in Monotheism... one Supra level. There can be many theories. Meta-narratives, not a single capital 'N' one (per your discussion on use of capital letters).
//I'm a pedant. Difference and repetition as a substitute for dialectic. /Neo's words: "Hit me". ;-p
Naaah, just a sign taped to his (and my) back... ;)
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Like that ether of old times? Well, maybe new theory already here but blocked by nasty censors.
Still have doubts that Q is back? ;-p
Maybe not censors... but lacking intellectually honest readers/ listeners. Readers/ listeners willing to oppose and control their own mimetic desires, and and not succumb to them (ala Peter before/ after the cock crows). Readers willing to abandon Standard Science, and embrace the "Revolutionary" kind ;)
...by not going along with the crowd. ;P
...and yes, ether. A gravitational (axionic?) ether between structures in the galactic web... responsible for the Hubble tension.
Will LISA reveal Dark Energy in the waves/ ripples of the cosmos? I wonder...
Inertia. Most powerfull force in the Universe. Thought, overlooked by everyone everytime. Inertia to blame.
Well, it's interesting thing in itself -- how low quality connection and all that newly built tenets of censure nearly eliminate our chance to communicate.
And that in the Internet, that was built to live through nukelar war... but, unable to deliver... due to modern censure.
Inertia to blame. ;-p
Hah. naZZty ceneZZors trying to prevent our communication. Or what?
Like that e-ther theory of old times? Well, maybe new theory already here but blockked by naZZty ceneZZors.
Still have doubts that Q is back? ;-p
Inertia's certainly one way to store energy... (even bureaucratic institutional energy like censorship)
String Theory was/ is the block... but also a side-track to divert progress in Physics Gotta love the Maths... ;p
Stuck in the Semmelweis Reflex...
/...Or what? Great TikToker... already... maybe. Sorry, I'm out of sync with latest trends. Inertia... to blame. ;-p
Cultural inertia... @@
//String Theory was/ is the block...
/We can seek only under lantern. So, physicists know (learned that from Einstain) that to open New Phisics one need to start from Failed Experiment (like that one for searching e-ter).
But... too bad. Nobody said that it should be THAT simple. Inertia to blame. ;-p Or Comppexity. Or, Cosmic Bureacracy.)))
Well. I have had explained to you a way how to overcome it. But it found your disinterest only. Inertia...
...much as some of my ideas like different forms of intelligences remained out of your "light cone". I suppose we all suffer from our own forms of inertia...
/Well. It turns us back to our previous talks. Arguing around tryes to find some golden nuggets on the trash/grave yard of human culture.
I,while basing my arguments on Lem's teachings, cleverly ;-p was pointing that that is not possible to find new senses, new answers while inside culture.
As bird chick... while inside egg shell, using its sole teath to break it. To meet NEW. Which could kill it.
So, what's the merit of your way?
SchizoAnalysis? You do think and approach problems a bit differently... which can change the subject. ;0
/BTW, that Gert? He's not new here?
No, he's very old. He's a European, like you (Belgium/UK) and VERY smart (except for his Left politics... ;) I've known him for 15-20 years now???
//Will LISA reveal Dark Energy in the waves/ ripples of the cosmos? I wonder...
/Yeah. Failed Experiment Seeking. Yawn.
Best tell NASA and ESA to save their billions? Inertia is already unstoppable...
//...and yes, ether. A gravitational (axionic?) ether between structures in the galactic web... responsible for the Hubble tension.
/"Your teory not crazy enough to be true"©
Yawn.
No doubt. It doesn't 'narrate' threatenly enough... ;)
//...by not going along with the crowd. ;P
\And there is a way how to walk along with a crowd? ;-p
Yawn.
I mean. Reliably. Without going out of sync with one part, or another. ;-)
...and later getting denounced and killed/ expelled by them. ;0
Nah, best to walk away, and into the desert/ become a nomad. But then you'd be practicing your nomadology, taking new lines of flight, and seeking new deterritorializations and reterritorializations until one day, you meet another nomad...
What schizoanalysis lacks in purposefullness and clarity of outcomes, it makes up for in varieties of experiences on encounters, much like a certain William James text... ;)
//...much as some of my ideas like different forms of intelligences remained out of your "light cone".
"There is NO Intelligence, if there are intelligences of different sizes and forms."
Not my words, Lem's. As his alter-ego wise supercomputer Golem XIV.
Do I need to explain at length meaning of it? Do you have time and patience... to listen?
//SchizoAnalysis? You do think and approach problems a bit differently... which can change the subject. ;0
Brick and mortar. Trial and error method. @@
While there is ready made theory. Do you know, heard about Theory of Engineeeing? Devised in USSR.
Obviously you not. But can google for yourself -- TRIZ(ТРИЗ) in accordance with my knowledge there is materials in English too, already.
//and VERY smart
That's, most enticing. ;-p
//Best tell NASA and ESA to save their billions? Inertia is already unstoppable...
Whatever. Judo moves use it just great. ;-)
//No doubt. It doesn't 'narrate' threatenly enough... ;)
Whatever.
Einstain's Letter... was not threating too. Only... informative.
But those who close ears to not hear it -- suffer greatly.
//...and later getting denounced and killed/ expelled by them. ;0
It happens anyway. And complitely randomly. Yawn.(what is the latest mass-shooting case? I lost track of it)
So, why bother?
//What schizoanalysis lacks in purposefullness and clarity of outcomes, it makes up for in varieties of experiences on encounters, much like a certain William James text... ;)
Yawn, illusion.
You seems like do not understand importance of Failed Experiment. And Truth behind it.
Though, it's so damn simple -- Reality IS CONTER-intuitive.So, lesson is apparent -- if you REALLY want to know what/how Reality is -- watch out for your Blind Spots.
No. Catch em. Put into GITMO. ;-p And interrogate. Thoroughly.:-)))
But... simplicity, is the hardest thing.
//...much as some of my ideas like different forms of intelligences remained out of your "light cone".
\"There is NO Intelligence, if there are intelligences of different sizes and forms."
Not my words, Lem's. As his alter-ego wise supercomputer Golem XIV.
Do I need to explain at length meaning of it? Do you have time and patience... to listen?
Maybe, once I return from Solaris with a "higher" form and can advise as to the form required for your Ovo prject.
//SchizoAnalysis? You do think and approach problems a bit differently... which can change the subject. ;0
\Brick and mortar. Trial and error method. @@
While there is ready made theory. Do you know, heard about Theory of Engineeeing? Devised in USSR.
Obviously you not. But can google for yourself -- TRIZ(ТРИЗ) in accordance with my knowledge there is materials in English too, already.
The Theory of Inventive Problem Solving , or TRIZ , is a set of methods for solving and improving technical problems and systems by finding and resolving technical contradictions. [ 1 ] In English, in addition to the transliteration, TRIZ is known by the acronym TIPS , which stands for theory of inventive problem solving .
The idea of TRIZ is that different technical problems are technical contradictions that can be solved by the same methods. To solve a specific problem, TRIZ users first generalize the problem, then try to solve the generalized problem using a suitable general method, and only then return to the specific problem and try to apply the solution found to it [ 1 ] .
TRIZ is based on 40 general inventive techniques, 76 standard solution templates and several other ideas.
Sounds like Schizo-Analysis (creating, then finding and resolving contradictions)
//and VERY smart
\That's, most enticing. ;-p
His IQ is at least 2 SD's above mine.
//Best tell NASA and ESA to save their billions? Inertia is already unstoppable...
/Whatever. Judo moves use it just great. ;-)
Math judo? It will be needed to translate between the two standard models. :)
//No doubt. It doesn't 'narrate' threatenly enough... ;)
\Whatever.
Einstain's Letter... was not threating too. Only... informative.
But those who close ears to not hear it -- suffer greatly.
FDR certainly 'heard' the threats......This phenomenon would also lead to the construction of bombs, and it is conceivable—though much less certain—that extremely powerful bombs of a new type may thus be constructed. A single bomb of this type, carried by boat and exploded in a port, might very well destroy the whole port together with some of the surrounding territory. However, such bombs might very well prove to be too heavy for transportation by air.
The United States has only very poor ores of uranium in moderate quantities. There is some good ore in Canada and the former Czechoslovakia, while the most important source of uranium is Belgian Congo. [...]
...I understand that Germany has actually stopped the sale of uranium from the Czechoslovakian mines which she has taken over. That she should have taken such early action might perhaps be understood on the ground that the son of the German Under-Secretary of State, von Weizsäcker, is attached to the Kaiser-Wilhelm-Institut in Berlin where some of the American work on uranium is now being repeated.
Yours very truly,
Albert Einstein
//...and later getting denounced and killed/ expelled by them. ;0
\It happens anyway. And complitely randomly. Yawn.(what is the latest mass-shooting case? I lost track of it)
So, why bother?
Violence is the 'symbolism' one resorts to when words no longer serve as an expressive metaphor.
//What schizoanalysis lacks in purposefullness and clarity of outcomes, it makes up for in varieties of experiences on encounters, much like a certain William James text... ;)
\Yawn, illusion.
You seems like do not understand importance of Failed Experiment. And Truth behind it.
Though, it's so damn simple -- Reality IS CONTER-intuitive.So, lesson is apparent -- if you REALLY want to know what/how Reality is -- watch out for your Blind Spots.
And you seem to not understand the importance of creating a new hypothesis to explain the reason for the experiments failure... of re-framing it???
\No. Catch em. Put into GITMO. ;-p And interrogate. Thoroughly.:-)))
But... simplicity, is the hardest thing.
I agree. Morality can prevent one from achieving 'Operational Success'. Trying to preserve a field of 'negative liberty' for the members of a society (or humanity itself) can be a real b*tch. Because once you resort to Coercion (the 'C' in RICE), there's no returning to "trust". And once the Nocturnal Council is exposed to daylight... they can't be unseen again.
Those nasty Geneva Conventions...
Will you still come visit me during/ after my ICC trial in The Hague?
Do you suppose that the UN SecGen can issue pardons?
The West (and the World) simply no longer understands the Spirit of Terrorism...
...*sigh*
//...much as some of my ideas like different forms of intelligences remained out of your "light cone".
Well. Predictably, you will not ask to explain. And that is not some loozy propheting or lame fortune-telling.
That's just what inertia of our communication suggests.
Though. It is dead simple. And stationed in how we use words.
If we put something with capital letter at first. Like Pyramids. Or, if you wish -- Golden Gates. Or Twin Towers.
We do not tend to start asking further questions. Like: and what is it? what it consist of? how it different? By obvious reasons -- that's how it is.
And by the big extent -- that's exactly how we treat Human Intelligence (and AI altogether).
But.
You stated "different forms of intelligences".
But. Somehow forgot to ask that questions: and how they different? and what they consist of? and why talk about it at all?
Well. Obviously. Because after starting asking questions, you'd see it for yourself -- that your "answers"... they are non-answers.
Exactly. "Why talk about it at all"? Acta non Verba.
Force/ Violence. What humans resort to when the words no longer serve. And they can be VERY convincing.
Let me shape/ bend your light cone for you.
But please, if you have the better answer, explain. I've nothing better to do at the moment.
...and as my 'Juice' professor used to always say, "You can't push with a rope".
//Sounds like Schizo-Analysis (creating, then finding and resolving contradictions)
Yeah.
Everything resembles everything.
That sort of... wisdom.
Yawn.
//His IQ is at least 2 SD's above mine.
Yeah.
I don't care if he Elgernon.
Yawn.
////Best tell NASA and ESA to save their billions? Inertia is already unstoppable...
/Whatever. Judo moves use it just great. ;-)
//Math judo? It will be needed to translate between the two standard models. :)
Naaah.
My point was just that Inertia have no own agency. And so, is up to how WE will use it. If we smart enough.
And well... my point is that not math, but shaping of all our understanding needed.
Math. We know lots of that M-things.
And nothing about how to shape our minds.
Yawn.
//FDR certainly 'heard' the threats
Not from Eini. That's it.
//Violence is the 'symbolism' one resorts to when words no longer serve as an expressive metaphor.
Dunno how mass-shooting is violence.
I still under my hypothesis that it is just a media-effect.
Just like sharpshooters of the past. All that Bills and Kids. Your MSM just burgeoning on.
Yawn.
//And you seem to not understand the importance of creating a new hypothesis to explain the reason for the experiments failure... of re-framing it???
Read Feinman. He explained it most comprehansively.
AFAIK there is even video explanation.
Hypothesis... is a dirt.
Golden nuggets. They are something different.
//Morality can prevent one from achieving 'Operational Success'.
Whatever.
If for example experiment needs human fat... it do not mean that questions only Osventsim are only possible solution.Most surely there is multitude of ways to workaround it.
Another word, if someone arguing about morality -- he either just want excuse for violance... or, just lazy.))))
And. That was about ideas in your mind -- go say that you not free with harboring watever ideas you like... inside your mind. ;-)
//Sounds like Schizo-Analysis (creating, then finding and resolving contradictions)
\Yeah.
Everything resembles everything.
That sort of... wisdom.
Yawn.
What's language but ears translating for eyes written messages nose and tongue are sending about taste.
//His IQ is at least 2 SD's above mine.
\Yeah.
I don't care if he Elgernon.
Yawn.
You won't be sending him flowers?
////Best tell NASA and ESA to save their billions? Inertia is already unstoppable...
/Whatever. Judo moves use it just great. ;-)
//Math judo? It will be needed to translate between the two standard models. :)
\Naaah.
My point was just that Inertia have no own agency. And so, is up to how WE will use it. If we smart enough.
And well... my point is that not math, but shaping of all our understanding needed.
Math. We know lots of that M-things.
And nothing about how to shape our minds.
Yawn.
Not even Musk's "Neuralink"? Not even meth? Heroin? Mescal? I should get a refund for all that Effexor I took in/ after the mental hospital in 2001.
//FDR certainly 'heard' the threats
\Not from Eini. That's it.
No German insinuations? huh!
//Violence is the 'symbolism' one resorts to when words no longer serve as an expressive metaphor.
/Dunno how mass-shooting is violence.
I still under my hypothesis that it is just a media-effect.
Just like sharpshooters of the past. All that Bills and Kids. Your MSM just burgeoning on.
Yawn.
We should ask the cells that the bullets hit in the victims. But yes, the media hyperreality surrounding the shootings can be a bit over-the-top. Symbolic violence.
//And you seem to not understand the importance of creating a new hypothesis to explain the reason for the experiments failure... of re-framing it???
\Read Feinman. He explained it most comprehansively.
AFAIK there is even video explanation.
Hypothesis... is a dirt.
Golden nuggets. They are something different.
Aren't they the origins for the new hypothesis to expalin the experiment's failure? Musn't one "prospect" for them? Or must one wait to "stumble" through trial and error? "Magnesium didn't work, maybe I should try tungsten." Why not aluminum next?
//Morality can prevent one from achieving 'Operational Success'.
\Whatever.
If for example experiment needs human fat... it do not mean that questions only Osventsim (Ozempic?) are only possible solution.Most surely there is multitude of ways to workaround it.
Another word, if someone arguing about morality -- he either just want excuse for violance... or, just lazy.))))
Fitting explanations into a single grand-narrative rather than developing a set of situational meta-narratives...
\And. That was about ideas in your mind -- go say that you not free with harboring watever ideas you like... inside your mind. ;-)
Plato, "Meno" (selected excerpts)
'Figure is the limit of form.'
'Colour is the effluence of form, sensible, and in due proportion to the sight.'
'Figure is the only thing which always follows colour.'
'To what then do we give the name of figure? Try and answer. Suppose that when a person asked you this question either about figure or colour, you were to reply, Man, I do not understand what you want, or know what you are saying; he would look rather astonished and say: Do you not understand that I am looking for the 'simile in multis'? And then he might put the question in another form: Meno, he might say, what is that 'simile in multis' which you call figure, and which includes not only round and straight figures, but all?'
'Colour is an effluence of form, commensurate with sight, and palpable to sense.'
'I define figure to be that in which the solid ends; or, more concisely, the limit of solid.'
Without a 'limit' every CHATbot AI becomes Demented.
...and besides, our language use has already become highly moralizied.
//Morality can prevent one from achieving 'Operational Success'.
\Whatever.
Peter Sloterdijk - " Languages are not primarily used for what is today called "the passing on of information", but serve to form communicating group bodies,"
//...and as my 'Juice' professor used to always say, "You can't push with a rope".
That proff... have poor imagination. That's all.
Well, usual thing among proffs.
(hint: froze it ;-p)
//What's language but ears translating for eyes written messages nose and tongue are sending about taste.
Many things for many people, actually. Language.
//\Yeah.
I don't care if he Elgernon.
Yawn.
//You won't be sending him flowers?
Heh. My joke still unseen. OK, I'll be more apparent. Supergenius mice -- still just a mice. ;-p
//And nothing about how to shape our minds.
Yawn.
//Not even Musk's "Neuralink"?
How it even relates???
Do you imaging "shaping mind" as cutting brain with butchers knife??? %)
////FDR certainly 'heard' the threats
\Not from Eini. That's it.
//No German insinuations? huh!
Yap. Exactly what I meant.
//We should ask the cells that the bullets hit in the victims.
Yap. Especially that cells we loose all of the time. Like cells from our skin. Or... better, from rectum epitelial tissue. ;-p
Their opinion very important to us.
//Symbolic violence.
Naah. Symbolic violence that is public executions and etc. Like chants "kill dRump".
//Aren't they the origins for the new hypothesis to expalin the experiment's failure?
Watch Feinman.
Video is short. Explanation cimprehansive. And his authority more then enough.
Yawn.
//Fitting explanations into a single grand-narrative rather than developing a set of situational meta-narratives...
???
//\And. That was about ideas in your mind -- go say that you not free with harboring watever ideas you like... inside your mind. ;-)
//Plato, "Meno" (selected excerpts)
Yawn.
Priching to a choir.
Or how I should react when you return back to me my words, my argument. With brazen look "see, you overlooked that".
Just because it was not written in same words, of same excerpt.
//...and as my 'Juice' professor used to always say, "You can't push with a rope".
\That proff... have poor imagination. That's all.
Well, usual thing among proffs.
(hint: froze it ;-p)
Touche!
//What's language but ears translating for eyes written messages nose and tongue are sending about taste.
/Many things for many people, actually. Language.
Coded comms is the 'simuli in multis'... a 'symptom' of intelligence? Or is the "intelligence" in the decoding and perhaps re-attribution of message to the 'inside-outside' distinction?
//\Yeah.
I don't care if he Elgernon.
Yawn.
//You won't be sending him flowers?
\Heh. My joke still unseen. OK, I'll be more apparent. Supergenius mice -- still just a mice. ;-p
Mice don't know much chemistry.
//And nothing about how to shape our minds.
Yawn.
//Not even Musk's "Neuralink"?
\How it even relates???
Do you imaging "shaping mind" as cutting brain with butchers knife??? %)
Like Freezing rope, it sounds like one way. If not shaping, at least exttending its' functions.
////FDR certainly 'heard' the threats
\Not from Eini. That's it.
//No German insinuations? huh!
\Yap. Exactly what I meant.
Subtle threats aren't threats? Indirect speech... like a mafia enforcer's "it would be a shame if something happened to your store, mr. store owner." Negotiating a social relationship (dominance, communality, recipocracy) is the function of indirect speech. Instead of getting into an argument (help me build a bomb, dumbass) he suggests building a permission structure (you should fund somebody to study this)... (language not needed for a purely inside-inside relationship - comm handshake already there). Acta non verba. Eini didn't want to exert his intellectual dominance and 'queer the deal'.
//We should ask the cells that the bullets hit in the victims.
/Yap. Especially that cells we loose all of the time. Like cells from our skin. Or... better, from rectum epitelial tissue. ;-p
Their opinion very important to us.
Stress and pain are their comm systems. And you'd better listen to them, or you'll soon be dead. No other "language" needed. They're an inside-inside organ-level collaborator. Inside the epidermis, that is, not organ lining. Bio-electricity and chemistry exchange sufficient.
//Symbolic violence.
\Naah. Symbolic violence that is public executions and etc. Like chants "kill dRump".
Yes - from an inside-outside comm perspective, that's what the "symbols" are needed for. The bullets themselves are more acta non verba violence. They remove the inside-outside comms distinction rather more directly by connecting them (inside-former outside).
//Aren't they the origins for the new hypothesis to expalin the experiment's failure?
/Watch Feinman.
Video is short. Explanation cimprehansive. And his authority more then enough.
Yawn.
His repution has been marred by some recently... jes sayin.
//Fitting explanations into a single grand-narrative rather than developing a set of situational meta-narratives...
/???
Pain signals... stress signals... temperature signals... exhaustion signals... etc.
//\And. That was about ideas in your mind -- go say that you not free with harboring watever ideas you like... inside your mind. ;-)
//Plato, "Meno" (selected excerpts)
/Yawn.
Priching to a choir.
Or how I should react when you return back to me my words, my argument. With brazen look "see, you overlooked that".
Just because it was not written in same words, of same excerpt.
I'm a pedant. Difference and repetition as a substitute for dialectic.
//Coded comms is the 'simuli in multis'... a 'symptom' of intelligence? Or is the "intelligence" in the decoding and perhaps re-attribution of message to the 'inside-outside' distinction?
As always -- it depend on your definition of intelligence.
//Mice don't know much chemistry.
You, just know too few of mice. ;-p
//Like Freezing rope, it sounds like one way. If not shaping, at least exttending its' functions.
Yeah.
It depend on concepts of it you harboring in your mind. That's for sure.
I. Remember concepts I have had while being a kid. What a fluffy bullshit it was. But, that that I remember it -- made me quite apologetic toward other people misconception.
Apologetic... but not all-forgiving. Hid my warning here.
//Subtle threats aren't threats? Indirect speech... like a mafia enforcer's "it would be a shame if something happened to your store, mr. store owner."
BS.
And how Eini would enforce... anything at all.))))
//Negotiating a social relationship (dominance, communality, recipocracy) is the function of indirect speech
BS.
First goes NEED of such relations.
And communication can be established even without words.
//Stress and pain are their comm systems. And you'd better listen to them, or you'll soon be dead.
Yet one BS misconception.
//His repution has been marred by some recently... jes sayin.
Yep. By jelous wimps. Yawn.
//situational meta-narratives...
/???
//Pain signals... stress signals... temperature signals... exhaustion signals... etc.
Dunno how it "meta".
Meta is level ABOVE. And that describe levels under...
//I'm a pedant. Difference and repetition as a substitute for dialectic.
Neo's words: "Hit me". ;-p
//Coded comms is the 'simuli in multis'... a 'symptom' of intelligence? Or is the "intelligence" in the decoding and perhaps re-attribution of message to the 'inside-outside' distinction?
\As always -- it depend on your definition of intelligence.
The ability to set a goal and discover many different ways/means to achieving it. The more potentially successful ways/ means of setting/achieving the goal, the more intelligent the agent.
//Mice don't know much chemistry.
\You, just know too few of mice. ;-p
But I do know some rats... ;)
//Like Freezing rope, it sounds like one way. If not shaping, at least exttending its' functions.
\Yeah.
It depend on concepts of it you harboring in your mind. That's for sure.
I. Remember concepts I have had while being a kid. What a fluffy bullshit it was. But, that that I remember it -- made me quite apologetic toward other people misconception.
Apologetic... but not all-forgiving. Hid my warning here.
It's one thing to understand. Another to act upon it. Or act 'differently' (see my definition of intelligence above)
//Subtle threats aren't threats? Indirect speech... like a mafia enforcer's "it would be a shame if something happened to your store, mr. store owner."
\BS.
And how Eini would enforce... anything at all.))))
Send Hitler a letter? Stalin? Churchill? FDR couldn't make an atom bomb... but Eini could. The 'power' of intelligence and knowledge... is soft power, not hard power. America is hard-kill. The UK is soft-kill. See the difference?
//Negotiating a social relationship (dominance, communality, recipocracy) is the function of indirect speech
\BS.
First goes NEED of such relations.
And communication can be established even without words.
You are totally self-reliant? My hat goes off to you. You achieved what Kim Jung Il couldn't. Juche!
//Stress and pain are their comm systems. And you'd better listen to them, or you'll soon be dead.
\Yet one BS misconception.
Fine, I'll ignore that stabbing pain in my gut and NOT go to see a doctor.
//His repution has been marred by some recently... jes sayin.
/Yep. By jelous wimps. Yawn.
Maybe. Some also not so wimpy... like the String Theory Normal Science community still ascendent.
//situational meta-narratives...
/???
//Pain signals... stress signals... temperature signals... exhaustion signals... etc.
Dunno how it "meta".
Meta is level ABOVE. And that describe levels under...
Meta is also "many" and not just "one" as in Universal. ie - Pantheism. Meta-Physics isn't just a belief in Monotheism... one Supra level. There can be many theories. Meta-narratives, not a single capital 'N' one (per your discussion on use of capital letters).
//I'm a pedant. Difference and repetition as a substitute for dialectic.
/Neo's words: "Hit me". ;-p
Naaah, just a sign taped to his (and my) back... ;)
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