“They saw their injured country's woe;
The flaming town, the wasted field;
Then rushed to meet the insulting foe;
They took the spear, - but left the shield.”
―Philip Freneau
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And by a prudent flight and cunning save A life which valour could not, from the grave. A better buckler I can soon regain, But who can get another life again?
Archilochus
Anti-air missles. 1) That somehow was fired in OPPOSITE direction to where "bandits" was comming? 2) That somehow was not complected with self0destruction mechanism, or it malfunctioned. 3) That fall not somwhere in the field, but direct hit. 4) That somehow have load of explosive that can create 10 feet crater???
Well, if you wish, we can AGIAN try to play that game of wataboutism... but, there is not much space for it.
Only thing that can be viable for discussion -- that is how Western media and politics swallowed "information special operation" pill, and started to repeat and retranslate message about "that was Ukrainian missile".
I am more interesting in your... and other Ams reaction to that Bi-ai-ai-ai-den? (to which all your "sympaticants" in all of the world looked closely, and made their conclusions)
Do you like that Uvalde Syndrome type of reaction?
And that is not even ICBMs flying in swarm in your dircetion.
Accident that would not have happened if Russia wasn't attacking Ukraine.
Given the type of rocket, identified from the debris, it likely was a stray anti-aircraft missile fired by Ukraine at Russia's missile barrage.
NATO will likely respond with an increase in air defense density, just more of what Russia getting exactly what they didn't want.
Poland wants to be let off its chain to annihilate Russia so much you can taste it, but this isn't the trigger they're looking for or need to activate Article 5.
Sadly, the West will continue to seek a solution that doesn't forcibly remove Russia from the planet. We get to watch their demographic shortfalls kill them off in slow motion instead of the more entertaining spectacle of burning them like ants under a magnifying glass.
Anything's possible, but if the Russians were intending to strike Poland, their target selection algorithm needs a lot of work.
...and I don't know what kind of SAMs Ukraine is using. We typically use semi-active fire control radars to illuminate airborne targets so as to maintain control of our missile's flight path and not accidently take out our own aircraft... but this could have been an active seeker, and you never know where those will end up.
\\Anything's possible, but if the Russians were intending to strike Poland, their target selection algorithm needs a lot of work.
That is "test of the ground".
If there'd ne no strong response -- there'd be more and more of such "accidents". Like that terroristic acts in Turkie.
Is it surprising that Erdogan was among those who in a jiffy of time emerged to placate it?
\\...and I don't know what kind of SAMs Ukraine is using.
One stop shopping at Google gives. S-300 missile system - Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org › wiki › S-300_missile_system The S-300 is regarded as one of the most potent anti-aircraft missile systems currently fielded. It is mainly used in Asia and Eastern Europe, including NATO ... ... The S-300PT included the use of a passive electronically scanned array radar...
Wargead 100 kg (150 at max). And that is shrapnel, not bomb shell. So? Is it able to make that hole on the foto? ;-)
\\Given the type of rocket, identified from the debris, it likely was a stray anti-aircraft missile fired by Ukraine at Russia's missile barrage.
Yeah. You are idiot. Who repeating after idiots. Conckokted for idiots to swallow it full(ish)ly idiotic bullshit. Fastfood for idiots. But you ae idiot, so it must be tastes good fer ya, Nigero? Idiots do eating shit? Well, suiting. What they'll staff their shitheads with, otherwise. :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
My guess is that the FLAP LID radar operators fired their missiles, missed their intercepts, and decided to scoot away instead of guiding the misses to a safe landing/ or directing the missiles onto a safe trajectory. They were probably worried about Khibiny, the Russian "wild weasel" system.
The West is not going to start WWIII over such an "obvious" casus belli because we've done so stupidly before (like the Gulf of Tonkin or Zimmerman Telegram). Yes, we are chickens and America is a neutered Rooster.
Ukraine has for the most part absorbed everything Russia has thrown at them. Russia has lost entire tank divisions trying to occupy and pacify wheat farmers.
Even Russians aren't stupid enough to provoke a war with a real military.
The Russians had 14 years notice from Hitler that the Germans were going to take Ukraine from them, and Stalin could read and speak German and probably had a copy of Hitler's book, so I don't underestimate Russian idiocy. I expect Russian idiocy. It took them 70 years to figure out Communism is stupid (contrast with Austrians that figured out Communism is stupid in 20 minutes and never gave it a try). Believe me, my analysis of Russia accounts for their stupidity.
Kin? I don't even have distant ancestry among Slavic ethnicities. The only relation my ancestry has with Slavs is kicking their asses on battlefields and making slaves of them... The word "slave" derives from the only thing that made Slavic people worth feeding and keeping around for millennia. Slavic people haven't done much for themselves since.
Watching Slavic people fight each other, re: Ukraine and Russia, is entertaining, like gladiators enslaved to fight to the death for amusement.
\\Kin? I don't even have distant ancestry among Slavic ethnicities.
Of course. Because you are gene-chineric result of experiment in some lab of unknown yet origin. That means that there is no Slavic or any other traces of human DNA in you.
But, I know that aleady. But that is good sign, that you admitted it yourself. Even if partially.
\\ (contrast with Austrians that figured out Communism is stupid in 20 minutes and never gave it a try)
Yep. Because they found that Nazism is much sweeter to their tastes...
\\The Russians had 14 years notice from Hitler...
Russians was ones who created Hitker. In their isiotic attempts to infect Europe with their endemic antisemitism. And it worked out spectacularly. "Beware of idiots" (tm)
Not sure what disturbs me more, your sexual attraction to animal excrement or your fantasies that I'm an animal shitting on you. Please stop. It's weird and disgusting.
\\Given the type of rocket, identified from the debris, it likely was a stray anti-aircraft missile fired by Ukraine at Russia's missile barrage.
Still. This need to be pointed out here. That RFia/Rusha. Already for a half-year as remodeled and using that C-300 missles... NOT as anti-air, but as surface-surface ones. As well as MANY times already used old soviet times missles and shells, to claim "Ukraine was bombing Donbass for all 8 year".
Yes. They do it from 2014 year. Or, maybe even from 2008 year.
So. EVEN. If that'll be found that it was C-300 and ONLY C-300 type of missle debries... That need to be precise and not faked serial numbers found... Well, they attempted to fake even serial numbers too. Earlier. In MH17 case.
Well. That is false flag operation of Rusha/Putin. And... NATO and Biden freakingly KNOW it, ALL, in and out. But... playing chikens. Or, no... big chikens. Oustriches.
And. That is already SECOND attempt of Putin to breach 5th article of NATO.
Previous was... you know... Nord Streams bombing.
And. I think, there is MANY more attempts. Just not that open and obvious. Like that drone flying across central Europe accident. What is it'll be with some poision? some virus? some radioactive dust in it?
Look on the bright side, Q. Biden's going to need a distraction and excuse for pawning an eDollar on the country, and a war with Russia is probably just the distraction he'll need.
Trying to parse your failing attempt at communicating in English here, but it seems you are implying Russia was trying to attack Poland with a modified anti-aircraft rocket? Because they want war with the entirety of NATO?
Russia can't even handle Khokhlostani farmers armed with obsolete NATO tech. There's no need for NATO to do more.
\\Look on the bright side, Q. Biden's going to need a distraction and excuse for pawning an eDollar on the country, and a war with Russia is probably just the distraction he'll need.
NMP.
\\Trying to parse your failing attempt at communicating in English here, but it seems you are implying Russia was trying to attack Poland with a modified anti-aircraft rocket? Because they want war with the entirety of NATO?
How it failing? If you parsed it just O.K.
Yes. That's EXACTLY what they trying to do. To scare Europe and NATO into submission.
Well, idiotic idea. But well, they are idiots. Like you too. That is interesting question here -- can one idiots understand cues from other idiots. So, I waiting for you futher rambling on this topic. To ive more light to that deeply theortical question. ;-P
\\Russia can't even handle Khokhlostani farmers armed with obsolete NATO tech. There's no need for NATO to do more.
Again reporting from basement of Progojin's Trollfarm.
Yes. That's EXACTLY what they trying to do. To scare Europe and NATO into submission.
The only people panicked about Russia are their fellow Slavs lol. The rest of the world has a higher IQ points per square mile density.
Nobody else even knows how to be scared of them. What are they going to do, deny oil that can easily be taken from them?
These problems go back to Catherine "the Great." Catherine wasn't Russian-born, so at least among dumbass Slavs she could legitimately claim a kind of comparative greatness, but she was educated and knew of the existence of the United States of America. There is no morally defensible reason why she kept misleading dumbass Russians that she was "great" when she knew Americans were greater. Look at all the nonsense Russia has put itself through for nearly 250 years trying to matter in human history. All that to learn the obvious. Nothing happens on this planet unless an American wills it to happen
\\The only people panicked about Russia are their fellow Slavs lol.
Then... Why USA and its NATO minions trying to hide under carpet SO franticly!!! THE SECOND obvious "casus belli" up to this date?
If that is not their scared chickens doodoo, then what?
Can you expalin it, SmartyPantsu?
\\Nobody else even knows how to be scared of them. What are they going to do, deny oil that can easily be taken from them?
Huh... and pupils was teached to "duck and cover" in some other country? Not USA? :-))))))))))))))))))))))))
\\These problems go back to Catherine "the Great." Catherine wasn't Russian-born, so at least among dumbass Slavs she could legitimately claim a kind of comparative greatness, but she was educated and knew of the existence of the United States of America.
Now you making your IQ hitting the floor, breaking it, and falling down futher till the basement, Nigero. :-))))))))))))))))))))))
Then... Why USA and its NATO minions trying to hide under carpet SO franticly!!! THE SECOND obvious "casus belli" up to this date?
Who's hiding? The only thing Russia has managed to do is make the world laugh at them. We have no "casus belli" to destroy Russia, and it is they who are afraid to give us one.
And, I'm not sure why you as a Slav have such hatred for black people, but at least try to spell "negro" correctly. You'd have my ethnicity and nationality wrong, but at least it would be one more word you spell correctly. Baby steps.
Russian rocket. Flyed thousand miles. And fell on NATO country territory. and killed 2 TWO citizens of NATO country.
How many of NATO country citizens should be killed, for NATO to admit "yep, that is war, we are eyeballs deep into"???
20? 200? 2000? ... 2 millions? Well, One of such rockets... but with nuclear warhead... on the center of Berlin or Paris would give em that.
But... what will be reaction of NATO??? "We need to comit a summit"? :-))))))))))))))
\\And, I'm not sure why you as a Slav have such hatred for black people, but at least try to spell "negro" correctly. You'd have my ethnicity and nationality wrong, but at least it would be one more word you spell correctly. Baby steps.
Dumb ass. Who tryed to ask me to answer in some other language.
Go consult with Google, what word "nigero" mean, ba-a-a-aka. :-)))))))))))))))
What? Banned in Google? Or its incredibly complex interface is just TOO MUCH for your sizzling brains of complete idiot? :-))))))))))))))))))))))
Hoh... my faith in you as complete idiot completely restored. What an ingeniously idiotic strtegy you proposed. Yeah. That's it. And better drop tha nuke at remains of Chernobil Nuclear Powerplant. For secondary nuclear reaction would start.
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Still think that that do not touch you?
lol! Turns out it was a false flag, but they're giving Ukraine the benefit of the doubt by saying it was "air defense missiles that went off-course".
link
Anti-air missles.
1) That somehow was fired in OPPOSITE direction to where "bandits" was comming?
2) That somehow was not complected with self0destruction mechanism, or it malfunctioned.
3) That fall not somwhere in the field, but direct hit.
4) That somehow have load of explosive that can create 10 feet crater???
Well, if you wish, we can AGIAN try to play that game of wataboutism... but, there is not much space for it.
Only thing that can be viable for discussion -- that is how Western media and politics swallowed "information special operation" pill, and started to repeat and retranslate message about "that was Ukrainian missile".
What do YOU think about it?
I am more interesting in your... and other Ams reaction to that Bi-ai-ai-ai-den? (to which all your "sympaticants" in all of the world looked closely, and made their conclusions)
Do you like that Uvalde Syndrome type of reaction?
And that is not even ICBMs flying in swarm in your dircetion.
Accident that would not have happened if Russia wasn't attacking Ukraine.
Given the type of rocket, identified from the debris, it likely was a stray anti-aircraft missile fired by Ukraine at Russia's missile barrage.
NATO will likely respond with an increase in air defense density, just more of what Russia getting exactly what they didn't want.
Poland wants to be let off its chain to annihilate Russia so much you can taste it, but this isn't the trigger they're looking for or need to activate Article 5.
Sadly, the West will continue to seek a solution that doesn't forcibly remove Russia from the planet. We get to watch their demographic shortfalls kill them off in slow motion instead of the more entertaining spectacle of burning them like ants under a magnifying glass.
What do YOU think about it?
Anything's possible, but if the Russians were intending to strike Poland, their target selection algorithm needs a lot of work.
...and I don't know what kind of SAMs Ukraine is using. We typically use semi-active fire control radars to illuminate airborne targets so as to maintain control of our missile's flight path and not accidently take out our own aircraft... but this could have been an active seeker, and you never know where those will end up.
\\Anything's possible, but if the Russians were intending to strike Poland, their target selection algorithm needs a lot of work.
That is "test of the ground".
If there'd ne no strong response -- there'd be more and more of such "accidents".
Like that terroristic acts in Turkie.
Is it surprising that Erdogan was among those who in a jiffy of time emerged to placate it?
\\...and I don't know what kind of SAMs Ukraine is using.
One stop shopping at Google gives.
S-300 missile system - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org › wiki › S-300_missile_system
The S-300 is regarded as one of the most potent anti-aircraft missile systems currently fielded. It is mainly used in Asia and Eastern Europe, including NATO ...
...
The S-300PT included the use of a passive electronically scanned array radar...
Wargead 100 kg (150 at max). And that is shrapnel, not bomb shell.
So? Is it able to make that hole on the foto? ;-)
\\Given the type of rocket, identified from the debris, it likely was a stray anti-aircraft missile fired by Ukraine at Russia's missile barrage.
Yeah. You are idiot. Who repeating after idiots. Conckokted for idiots to swallow it full(ish)ly idiotic bullshit. Fastfood for idiots. But you ae idiot, so it must be tastes good fer ya, Nigero?
Idiots do eating shit? Well, suiting. What they'll staff their shitheads with, otherwise.
:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Your obsession with demonstrating your imbecility to me is tedious, Q.
Try addressing me in a language you actually understand.
My guess is that the FLAP LID radar operators fired their missiles, missed their intercepts, and decided to scoot away instead of guiding the misses to a safe landing/ or directing the missiles onto a safe trajectory. They were probably worried about Khibiny, the Russian "wild weasel" system.
Why you evade to answer MAIN question?
Why Weat trying to evade obvious casus belli? Are you chickens? All of you? USA first of all. ;-P
CRATER ANALYSIS AND REPORTING
Or https://www.gichd.org/fileadmin/GICHD-resources/rec-documents/Explosive_weapon_effects_web.pdf
The West is not going to start WWIII over such an "obvious" casus belli because we've done so stupidly before (like the Gulf of Tonkin or Zimmerman Telegram). Yes, we are chickens and America is a neutered Rooster.
...and Bi-i-i-d-e-e-e-n will join the war when his favorite generals tell him to (and Hunter gets another million $ no-show job at Burisma).
It's dead, Jim (c)
I mean, this topic. :-(
Add some text to not be see as spam... maybe.
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1592603808634638336
Decide for yourself -- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhoV-HQXwAEfbWl?format=jpg&name=large
Ukraine has for the most part absorbed everything Russia has thrown at them. Russia has lost entire tank divisions trying to occupy and pacify wheat farmers.
Even Russians aren't stupid enough to provoke a war with a real military.
.
Don't underestimate idiots. I mean, do not try to deminish your kin, Nigero. That is... self-defeating.
.
The Russians had 14 years notice from Hitler that the Germans were going to take Ukraine from them, and Stalin could read and speak German and probably had a copy of Hitler's book, so I don't underestimate Russian idiocy. I expect Russian idiocy. It took them 70 years to figure out Communism is stupid (contrast with Austrians that figured out Communism is stupid in 20 minutes and never gave it a try). Believe me, my analysis of Russia accounts for their stupidity.
Kin? I don't even have distant ancestry among Slavic ethnicities. The only relation my ancestry has with Slavs is kicking their asses on battlefields and making slaves of them... The word "slave" derives from the only thing that made Slavic people worth feeding and keeping around for millennia. Slavic people haven't done much for themselves since.
Watching Slavic people fight each other, re: Ukraine and Russia, is entertaining, like gladiators enslaved to fight to the death for amusement.
\\Kin? I don't even have distant ancestry among Slavic ethnicities.
Of course. Because you are gene-chineric result of experiment in some lab of unknown yet origin.
That means that there is no Slavic or any other traces of human DNA in you.
But, I know that aleady.
But that is good sign, that you admitted it yourself. Even if partially.
\\ (contrast with Austrians that figured out Communism is stupid in 20 minutes and never gave it a try)
Yep. Because they found that Nazism is much sweeter to their tastes...
\\The Russians had 14 years notice from Hitler...
Russians was ones who created Hitker.
In their isiotic attempts to infect Europe with their endemic antisemitism.
And it worked out spectacularly.
"Beware of idiots" (tm)
Not sure what disturbs me more, your sexual attraction to animal excrement or your fantasies that I'm an animal shitting on you. Please stop. It's weird and disgusting.
Delirious? :-))))))
That is you and only you are one who talk about it. Citing "sexual attraction to animal excrement" and "fantasies that an animal shitting on you."
You cannot cite me saying anything like that.
Your strawmaning tactics falling on it's face flatly here.
\\Given the type of rocket, identified from the debris, it likely was a stray anti-aircraft missile fired by Ukraine at Russia's missile barrage.
Still.
This need to be pointed out here.
That RFia/Rusha.
Already for a half-year as remodeled and using that C-300 missles... NOT as anti-air, but as surface-surface ones.
As well as MANY times already used old soviet times missles and shells, to claim "Ukraine was bombing Donbass for all 8 year".
Yes. They do it from 2014 year. Or, maybe even from 2008 year.
So.
EVEN.
If that'll be found that it was C-300 and ONLY C-300 type of missle debries...
That need to be precise and not faked serial numbers found...
Well, they attempted to fake even serial numbers too.
Earlier.
In MH17 case.
Well.
That is false flag operation of Rusha/Putin.
And... NATO and Biden freakingly KNOW it, ALL, in and out.
But... playing chikens. Or, no... big chikens. Oustriches.
And.
That is already SECOND attempt of Putin to breach 5th article of NATO.
Previous was... you know... Nord Streams bombing.
And.
I think, there is MANY more attempts. Just not that open and obvious.
Like that drone flying across central Europe accident. What is it'll be with some poision? some virus? some radioactive dust in it?
Look on the bright side, Q. Biden's going to need a distraction and excuse for pawning an eDollar on the country, and a war with Russia is probably just the distraction he'll need.
Trying to parse your failing attempt at communicating in English here, but it seems you are implying Russia was trying to attack Poland with a modified anti-aircraft rocket? Because they want war with the entirety of NATO?
Russia can't even handle Khokhlostani farmers armed with obsolete NATO tech. There's no need for NATO to do more.
\\Look on the bright side, Q. Biden's going to need a distraction and excuse for pawning an eDollar on the country, and a war with Russia is probably just the distraction he'll need.
NMP.
\\Trying to parse your failing attempt at communicating in English here, but it seems you are implying Russia was trying to attack Poland with a modified anti-aircraft rocket? Because they want war with the entirety of NATO?
How it failing? If you parsed it just O.K.
Yes. That's EXACTLY what they trying to do. To scare Europe and NATO into submission.
Well, idiotic idea. But well, they are idiots. Like you too.
That is interesting question here -- can one idiots understand cues from other idiots.
So, I waiting for you futher rambling on this topic. To ive more light to that deeply theortical question. ;-P
\\Russia can't even handle Khokhlostani farmers armed with obsolete NATO tech. There's no need for NATO to do more.
Again reporting from basement of Progojin's Trollfarm.
Yes. That's EXACTLY what they trying to do. To scare Europe and NATO into submission.
The only people panicked about Russia are their fellow Slavs lol. The rest of the world has a higher IQ points per square mile density.
Nobody else even knows how to be scared of them. What are they going to do, deny oil that can easily be taken from them?
These problems go back to Catherine "the Great." Catherine wasn't Russian-born, so at least among dumbass Slavs she could legitimately claim a kind of comparative greatness, but she was educated and knew of the existence of the United States of America. There is no morally defensible reason why she kept misleading dumbass Russians that she was "great" when she knew Americans were greater. Look at all the nonsense Russia has put itself through for nearly 250 years trying to matter in human history. All that to learn the obvious. Nothing happens on this planet unless an American wills it to happen
\\The only people panicked about Russia are their fellow Slavs lol.
Then... Why USA and its NATO minions trying to hide under carpet SO franticly!!! THE SECOND obvious "casus belli" up to this date?
If that is not their scared chickens doodoo, then what?
Can you expalin it, SmartyPantsu?
\\Nobody else even knows how to be scared of them. What are they going to do, deny oil that can easily be taken from them?
Huh... and pupils was teached to "duck and cover" in some other country? Not USA? :-))))))))))))))))))))))))
\\These problems go back to Catherine "the Great." Catherine wasn't Russian-born, so at least among dumbass Slavs she could legitimately claim a kind of comparative greatness, but she was educated and knew of the existence of the United States of America.
Now you making your IQ hitting the floor, breaking it, and falling down futher till the basement, Nigero. :-))))))))))))))))))))))
Then... Why USA and its NATO minions trying to hide under carpet SO franticly!!! THE SECOND obvious "casus belli" up to this date?
Who's hiding? The only thing Russia has managed to do is make the world laugh at them. We have no "casus belli" to destroy Russia, and it is they who are afraid to give us one.
And, I'm not sure why you as a Slav have such hatred for black people, but at least try to spell "negro" correctly. You'd have my ethnicity and nationality wrong, but at least it would be one more word you spell correctly. Baby steps.
\\Who's hiding?
Russian rocket. Flyed thousand miles. And fell on NATO country territory. and killed 2 TWO citizens of NATO country.
How many of NATO country citizens should be killed, for NATO to admit "yep, that is war, we are eyeballs deep into"???
20?
200?
2000?
...
2 millions?
Well, One of such rockets... but with nuclear warhead... on the center of Berlin or Paris would give em that.
But... what will be reaction of NATO??? "We need to comit a summit"? :-))))))))))))))
\\And, I'm not sure why you as a Slav have such hatred for black people, but at least try to spell "negro" correctly. You'd have my ethnicity and nationality wrong, but at least it would be one more word you spell correctly. Baby steps.
Dumb ass. Who tryed to ask me to answer in some other language.
Go consult with Google, what word "nigero" mean, ba-a-a-aka. :-)))))))))))))))
What? Banned in Google? Or its incredibly complex interface is just TOO MUCH for your sizzling brains of complete idiot? :-))))))))))))))))))))))
How many of NATO country citizens should be killed, for NATO to admit "yep, that is war, we are eyeballs deep into"???
You're right. We should nuke Ukraine for accidentally shooting their rockets into Poland.
Hoh... my faith in you as complete idiot completely restored.
What an ingeniously idiotic strtegy you proposed.
Yeah.
That's it.
And better drop tha nuke at remains of Chernobil Nuclear Powerplant.
For secondary nuclear reaction would start.
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