“They saw their injured country's woe;
The flaming town, the wasted field;
Then rushed to meet the insulting foe;
They took the spear, - but left the shield.”
―Philip Freneau
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And by a prudent flight and cunning save A life which valour could not, from the grave. A better buckler I can soon regain, But who can get another life again?
Archilochus
Tuesday, August 25, 2026
The New Objectivity
Song in the Twilight (1931) is a prime example of New Objectivity (Neue Sachlichkeit) and Magic Realism. While Franz Sedlacek
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Rubberducking with Lessy gave me better understanding of what is wrong with his views
And that can be interesting for you too.
Thing is -- he (and you, sometimes) concentrating on money. But money -- is nothing.
Just imagine that you are on a desolate island... with ALL money of the World... but what you gonna eat???
And in compare -- imagine yourself inside wirehouse full of all kinds of goods, but no even a penny in your pocket -- but would it bother you?
So, when commie screaching "give money to workers!!!" even if it honest, and not just a deceptevly veiled as "social justice" grab on power it's stooopid
because -- what that worker would do with that money? gone to the market -- but there is NO more goods then it was before
so, what will happen?
he either will pay MORE for the same shit, as prices would rise
or... he'll return home WITHOUT new buys, as all was bought by other workers...
and start whine again "so what if I have this money? if I cannot buy shit with it???!!!"
well, exactly as it was in Soviet Union, with it neverending war with "speculants"
Yawn
Better give that money... to capitalust -- to produce MORE goods
well, but that is... not that simple -- as it not always possible to just make more (and cheaper)
that's why TECHS are so important cause only they can give that answer -- how to produce more and cheaper
Ohh my, the conditioning is complete, just as the capitalist oligarchs and their cretin politicians and Empire Christianity have worked so hard to accomplish.
As the end of the Empire draws near. The conditioned simply double down on their poison.
The Five Functions of Money Measure of value: Expresses the value of different commodities as a common numerical price using a shared monetary standard. Medium of circulation: Acts as the go-between in the continuous flow of buying and selling (C - M - C: commodity-money-commodity). Hoarding: Serves as a store of wealth withdrawn from circulation, representing independent, general wealth. Means of payment: Functions in deferred payments and credit systems where the commodity changes hands before the money is paid. World money: Crosses national borders to function as an international medium of payment, purchase, and universal wealth
And I will add the capitalists created a very effective system to create great wealth inequality.
With muti-bilionaire oligarchs putting the greatest system ever devised for the transfer of wealth from the global south to the global north (colonialism) on steriods.
The real creators of wealth, the wage slaves of the working class (the ones having the wealth they created stolen from them) are finally starting to wake up.
To realize that a society's strength is dependent on the whole of that society, NOT just the wealth of the few.
Bu hey, someday, when you feel the boot of the fascists capitalist greed firmly planted on your throat you might find yourself thinking, gosh, Les was right.
There are 3 forms of social relations. Dominance, Communality, and Reciprocity. Reciprocity is a substitute for Communality. Both are substitutes for establishing Dominance.
So money is a "proxy" for social relations. Marx believed that "commodities" were proxies for social relations. And money can be commodified (same with land, labour, capital, and information). Marx believed that we had a "commodity fetish" as it pertained to social relations. He was right.
//Bu hey, someday, when you feel the boot of the fascists capitalist greed firmly planted on your throat you might find yourself thinking, gosh, Les was right.
Yeah. Boot of Ronald McDonald, Henry Ford and Mikki Mouse...
that trying to make workers of USA well fed, driving own car and be entertauned.
Oh, HORROR... inly sicialistic death fields of Pol Pot only free Ams from...
Capitalism, like fuedalism (or fascism, socialism, communism, or colonialism) is a human construct. There is nothing about any of them that are "natural", inevitable, or permanent.
As reality is a continuous never ending flow of change today's capitalism, like fuedalism, will change. As all phenomena in reality do.
Hopefully humankind one day wake up and sees clearly they are not special or seperte from the vast scope of a forever changing reality. We are simply part of the fabric of reality.
We are, each and every one of us, exactly that. We, through the ignorance caused by forgetting create mos of humankind's problems today.
The plane of immanence isn't "ordered" or "synchronized". What emerges isn't "planned" by "capitalists". It's not a "human construct". It's merely a serious of unfortunate events. If you think it can, you're delusional.
It's like the painting in this thread. We are represented by the isolated piano player in the corner. That uncanny bat that emerged from nowhere is technofeudalism.
I see us all existing on a plane of immanence. All becoming... in der Welt sein, some together, and some separate and apart, some cooperating, some opposing, and some unambiguously apathetic and detached.
Social relations are attempts to mediate the chaos. Some people are trying to dominate. Others are resisting domination through communality . And some are resisting both domination and communality through reciprocity.
Q likely prefers to attempt to mediate social relations through new technologies (ie- info protocols). They impose local realms of logic and order upon the chaos.
In Martin Heidegger’s philosophy, technology is not just a collection of machines; it is the most powerful force shaping how we experience Being-in-the-world (In-der-Welt-sein).
Heidegger divided his view of technology into two distinct phases: his early work in Being and Time (1927), where technology acts as the invisible fabric of our daily life, and his later work, where he warned that modern technology completely distorts our relationship with reality.
1. Early Heidegger: Technology as the Fabric of the World
In Being and Time, everyday technology—which Heidegger calls equipment (Zeug)—is what actually creates a "world" for us in the first place.
The Invisible Extension of the Self: When you use a smartphone to text a friend, you do not look at the glass screen or think about the operating system. The phone is ready-to-hand (zuhanden). It withdraws and becomes invisible so that your "Being-in-the-world" can focus entirely on the conversation.
The Web of Meaning: No piece of technology exists in isolation. A laptop requires electricity, which requires a power grid, which requires an office building, which requires a worker. Heidegger calls this the equipmental totality. Technology is the interconnected web of tools that allows human beings to navigate their daily environments (Umwelt) meaningfully.
The Breakdown: When Wi-Fi cuts out or a screen cracks, the technology suddenly becomes present-at-hand (vorhanden). The illusion of seamless existence drops away, and we are forced to look at the object as a broken, annoying piece of material rather than looking through it to act in our world.
2. Later Heidegger: Modern Technology as a Threat to Dasein
In his later years, particularly in his essay The Question Concerning Technology (1954), Heidegger’s tone shifted from descriptive to deeply critical. He argued that modern industrial and digital technology changes the very nature of In-der-Welt-sein.
Gestell (Enframing): This is Heidegger's term for the mindset of the modern technological age. It is a psychological framework that forces humans to view the entire universe strictly through the lens of efficiency, control, and data.
Bestand (Standing-Reserve): Because of "enframing," we no longer see the world as a beautiful, mysterious space to dwell in. Instead, everything is reduced to raw materials waiting to be exploited.
A forest is no longer a living ecosystem; it is just a supply of timber.
A majestic river is no longer a natural wonder; it is just a hydroelectric power source.
Human Beings are no longer unique individuals (Dasein); we are reduced to "human resources" or digital metrics to be tracked, optimized, and algorithmically targeted.
Summary: The Ultimate Paradox
For Heidegger, technology is a double-edged sword for human existence:
Technological State How it affects In-der-Welt-sein (Being-in-the-world)
Everyday Tools (Zeug) Enhances existence. It acts as a seamless extension of our bodies, allowing us to build meaning and connect with our environment.
Modern Systems (Gestell) Flattens existence. It turns the world into a giant, cold spreadsheet, trapping us in a cycle of endless optimization and robbing us of authentic connection.
Individual Human beings are made of the exact same stuff as exists in the universe. All of us. By that universal metric we are all interconnected to the surce of life.
At one time, early in human development humans understood this connection to one another. The American Natives understood it. The European invaders did not. And most still do not, choosing to remain seperate and apart. Othering is an American speciality and this nation does it in spades. Especially conservative Christian Nationalists and Zionists.
Europeans during the age of reason forgot the understanding the ancients once took for granted. While there are traditions that continue to undestand and accept the truth the ancients knew well most are not to be fund in the USA. Outside of Buddhists, Hindus, Sikhs, and perhaps some Muslims and Sufis Certainly not in Empire Chrstianity, Christian Natrionalism or European Zionism.
Anyhoo, it is what it is today. If humankind ever really wakes up and begins to truly cooperate with one another without letting the ego dictate the agenda human potential will be unstopable. If we may very well nt surviive another 1,000 years. Maybe not even a 100 years.
Is there in USA are such dated, such tedious and grossly boring views??? That anyone who hears just first word of that song -- instantly knows it all. And that over reaction is lije "oh, shuddup... I, don't wanna listen to it"
May it be idea of monarchy? Or some "if only we could turn back to goo'ol'days if South.... when nijjas knew their place and everything was -- beautiful"?
//Individual Human beings are made of the exact same stuff as exists in the universe. All of us
Yeah, Made of shit. And produce shit. Shit that plants use for growth. Then animals do it that plants. Then other animals eat that animals. Then humans too -- grow plants and animals, to turn em inti SHIT.
//Europeans during the age of reason forgot the understanding the ancients once took for granted
Yeah. "Ancients" knew their shit well. Was living in shit. And keeping shit around. While "stupid" Europeans invented sanitary measures. And started to keep shit apart.
Be close to natives, shithead. Dismantle your toilet. Stop bathing. Keep your shit around you. ;-p
I have no interest in participating in the internet economy. I spent my years in the physical brick & mortar economy. I participate in the digital realm only to learn, and remember.
Youre far to reified in your myopic vision to fully understand the truth of interconnectedness or dependent origination. You're probably so entrenched in the status quo of fascism and capitalism to ever even seriously consider there exits superior alternatives.
Further, you have no intention of having and intellectual stimulating conversation. IOW's words you are not a serious person.
Philosopher Bertrand Russell wrote in his 1929 book Marriage and Morals: "The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt".
PS But... Bertrand Russell -- father of modern Logic, is nobody for you, am I getting right, cretin? ;-p
We're ALL fools, Q. As Lacan said, "Les non-dupes errent!" (Those who are NOT fooled err the most!). Or do you know why the monkey dips his balls into your glass of whiskey?
Yep... the fiber optic tethers were what made it ultimately impractical. That, and the self-inflicted moral problem of letting a robot fire on human w/o a human in the loop.
Maybe the goal is the problem. It's impossible. Maybe the goal should be to maximize your jouissance.
My name's Friday, I work on Tuesday, Tuesday's my secretary. Yesterday we went to the beach. Everyone was feeling Mary. Mary left, so everyone jumped for Joy. When Joy left, we left...
...which is why we love semi-active missiles and not the fire and forget type. We like having humans in the control loop until missile contact to prevent fratricide.
Easy to answer. But will you survive such brutal honesty? Be able to look straight into face of that old hag with an agricultural instrument in her hands?
To that extend fear of death would naggingly pursue you (and way beyond?).
Odysseus can't save his crew. He arrives back in Ithaca alone. Once he's recovered from the PTSD from the massacre of the Trojans, only then can he go home and put his own house (Ithaca, not the world) back in order. Only after he re-discovers his authenticity, stops acting profilically, and returns to sincerity. The Odysseus of the tightly strung bow, who seeks only a "fair" fight.
We... forced to do our own "garden" anyway. Even if one are poor and have no real estate. He still ought to garden own body. If even body poor... there is mind.
That is burden of a White Ma... I mean, anybody who exist.
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Rubberducking with Lessy
gave me better understanding of what is wrong with his views
And that can be interesting for you too.
Thing is -- he (and you, sometimes) concentrating on money. But money -- is nothing.
Just imagine that you are on a desolate island... with ALL money of the World... but what you gonna eat???
And in compare -- imagine yourself inside wirehouse full of all kinds of goods, but no even a penny in your pocket -- but would it bother you?
So, when commie screaching "give money to workers!!!"
even if it honest, and not just a deceptevly veiled as "social justice" grab on power
it's stooopid
because -- what that worker would do with that money? gone to the market -- but there is NO more goods then it was before
so, what will happen?
he either will pay MORE for the same shit, as prices would rise
or... he'll return home WITHOUT new buys, as all was bought by other workers...
and start whine again "so what if I have this money? if I cannot buy shit with it???!!!"
well, exactly as it was in Soviet Union, with it neverending war with "speculants"
Yawn
Better give that money... to capitalust -- to produce MORE goods
well, but that is... not that simple -- as it not always possible to just make more (and cheaper)
that's why TECHS are so important
cause only they can give that answer -- how to produce more and cheaper
Ohh my, the conditioning is complete, just as the capitalist oligarchs and their cretin politicians and Empire Christianity have worked so hard to accomplish.
As the end of the Empire draws near. The conditioned simply double down on their poison.
Cretin, that is your beloved Marx revelations. ;-p
From book called "Capital" you never have read. And even if scimmed -- understood nothing.
But, continue-continue. cretinic little monkey.)))
You project too much. But, by all means continue as your black heart desires.
BTW, your cretin insults disturb me not. Knowing oneself leaves one immune to the intended effects.
That idea of "projecting" eaten out your mind... if there was one.)))
Here. Educate oneself ;-p
The Five Functions of Money
Measure of value: Expresses the value of different commodities as a common numerical price using a shared monetary standard.
Medium of circulation: Acts as the go-between in the continuous flow of buying and selling (C - M - C: commodity-money-commodity).
Hoarding: Serves as a store of wealth withdrawn from circulation, representing independent, general wealth.
Means of payment: Functions in deferred payments and credit systems where the commodity changes hands before the money is paid.
World money: Crosses national borders to function as an international medium of payment, purchase, and universal wealth
Money is freedom from Social obligations. It's social distance. It's "anti-socialism".
Yup. Very glad to see you know that.
And I will add the capitalists created a very effective system to create great wealth inequality.
With muti-bilionaire oligarchs putting the greatest system ever devised for the transfer of wealth from the global south to the global north (colonialism) on steriods.
The real creators of wealth, the wage slaves of the working class (the ones having the wealth they created stolen from them) are finally starting to wake up.
To realize that a society's strength is dependent on the whole of that society, NOT just the wealth of the few.
Bu hey, someday, when you feel the boot of the fascists capitalist greed firmly planted on your throat you might find yourself thinking, gosh, Les was right.
It allows one to procure a social surrogate who will fulfill the social obigations demanded of you.
There are 3 forms of social relations. Dominance, Communality, and Reciprocity. Reciprocity is a substitute for Communality. Both are substitutes for establishing Dominance.
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So money is a "proxy" for social relations. Marx believed that "commodities" were proxies for social relations. And money can be commodified (same with land, labour, capital, and information). Marx believed that we had a "commodity fetish" as it pertained to social relations. He was right.
Tech is merely a means of producing commodities. Of transmuting materials into useful products.
//So money is a "proxy" for social relations.
BS
They NEED social relations to work.
Socium that have idea of "trade", of "money".
Means, it all upside down.
It therefore 'mediates' social relations. As Marshall McLuhan said, "The medium is the message".
//Tech is merely a means of producing commodities.
Merely? ))))
Go try to do it without techs. ;-p
Mr. Pol Pot. ;-p
So why don't I just enslave you and force you to obey me? It's working for Trump in Iran (although he'd prefer just paying them off)... ;)
The West's methodology is "Faustian". Tech alchemy....
//Bu hey, someday, when you feel the boot of the fascists capitalist greed firmly planted on your throat you might find yourself thinking, gosh, Les was right.
Yeah.
Boot of Ronald McDonald, Henry Ford and Mikki Mouse...
that trying to make workers of USA well fed, driving own car and be entertauned.
Oh, HORROR... inly sicialistic death fields of Pol Pot only free Ams from...
Bu-ga-gah!!!
Whatever.
Try to live some "eastian" way.,. to feel the difference.
You.., can try.
Yawn.
Capitalism, like fuedalism (or fascism, socialism, communism, or colonialism) is a human construct. There is nothing about any of them that are "natural", inevitable, or permanent.
As reality is a continuous never ending flow of change today's capitalism, like fuedalism, will change. As all phenomena in reality do.
Hopefully humankind one day wake up and sees clearly they are not special or seperte from the vast scope of a forever changing reality. We are simply part of the fabric of reality.
We are, each and every one of us, exactly that. We, through the ignorance caused by forgetting create mos of humankind's problems today.
//Capitalism, like fuedalism (or fascism, socialism, communism, or colonialism) is a human construct
Yeah?
So, you can point to author? ;-p
If that is "human construct"... there MUST be some human(s) that devised, planned and realused it. ;-p
//"natural", inevitable, or permanent.
And what do you know?
Even ONE thing -- that permanent and inevitable (except Tanos ;-p)
"Natural"... depend on definition.
^^Easternism^^
The plane of immanence isn't "ordered" or "synchronized". What emerges isn't "planned" by "capitalists". It's not a "human construct". It's merely a serious of unfortunate events. If you think it can, you're delusional.
I don't have to. You'll sell yourself. Lie Ukraine is selling itself to the EU right now.
erratum - "series" for 'serious' above.
And the main flow today is no longer simple capitalism. It's technofeudalism. Late Capitalism is dead.
It's like the painting in this thread. We are represented by the isolated piano player in the corner. That uncanny bat that emerged from nowhere is technofeudalism.
Q thinks that the solution is a new piano...
Sure, there are of course natural phenomena, natural order if you prefer.
The problem is not the natural phenomena (natural order), it is humankind manipulation to achieve desired end for the few.
Except that the aim is to achieve a desired end for the one. Will to power.
The social IS the "natural" order.
Then do you understand and accept the interconnectedness of humankind?
Or do you see us all as seperate and apart?
I see us all existing on a plane of immanence. All becoming... in der Welt sein, some together, and some separate and apart, some cooperating, some opposing, and some unambiguously apathetic and detached.
Is chaos interconnected?
Social relations are attempts to mediate the chaos. Some people are trying to dominate. Others are resisting domination through communality . And some are resisting both domination and communality through reciprocity.
Q likely prefers to attempt to mediate social relations through new technologies (ie- info protocols). They impose local realms of logic and order upon the chaos.
To shape and craft the Umwelt (Environment / Around-world): The immediate, local world we navigate daily, like a workspace or a home.
In Martin Heidegger’s philosophy, technology is not just a collection of machines; it is the most powerful force shaping how we experience Being-in-the-world (In-der-Welt-sein).
Heidegger divided his view of technology into two distinct phases: his early work in Being and Time (1927), where technology acts as the invisible fabric of our daily life, and his later work, where he warned that modern technology completely distorts our relationship with reality.
1. Early Heidegger: Technology as the Fabric of the World
In Being and Time, everyday technology—which Heidegger calls equipment (Zeug)—is what actually creates a "world" for us in the first place.
The Invisible Extension of the Self: When you use a smartphone to text a friend, you do not look at the glass screen or think about the operating system. The phone is ready-to-hand (zuhanden). It withdraws and becomes invisible so that your "Being-in-the-world" can focus entirely on the conversation.
The Web of Meaning: No piece of technology exists in isolation. A laptop requires electricity, which requires a power grid, which requires an office building, which requires a worker. Heidegger calls this the equipmental totality. Technology is the interconnected web of tools that allows human beings to navigate their daily environments (Umwelt) meaningfully.
The Breakdown: When Wi-Fi cuts out or a screen cracks, the technology suddenly becomes present-at-hand (vorhanden). The illusion of seamless existence drops away, and we are forced to look at the object as a broken, annoying piece of material rather than looking through it to act in our world.
2. Later Heidegger: Modern Technology as a Threat to Dasein
In his later years, particularly in his essay The Question Concerning Technology (1954), Heidegger’s tone shifted from descriptive to deeply critical. He argued that modern industrial and digital technology changes the very nature of In-der-Welt-sein.
Gestell (Enframing): This is Heidegger's term for the mindset of the modern technological age. It is a psychological framework that forces humans to view the entire universe strictly through the lens of efficiency, control, and data.
Bestand (Standing-Reserve): Because of "enframing," we no longer see the world as a beautiful, mysterious space to dwell in. Instead, everything is reduced to raw materials waiting to be exploited.
A forest is no longer a living ecosystem; it is just a supply of timber.
A majestic river is no longer a natural wonder; it is just a hydroelectric power source.
Human Beings are no longer unique individuals (Dasein); we are reduced to "human resources" or digital metrics to be tracked, optimized, and algorithmically targeted.
Summary: The Ultimate Paradox
For Heidegger, technology is a double-edged sword for human existence:
Technological State How it affects In-der-Welt-sein (Being-in-the-world)
Everyday Tools (Zeug) Enhances existence. It acts as a seamless extension of our bodies, allowing us to build meaning and connect with our environment.
Modern Systems (Gestell) Flattens existence. It turns the world into a giant, cold spreadsheet, trapping us in a cycle of endless optimization and robbing us of authentic connection.
Individual Human beings are made of the exact same stuff as exists in the universe. All of us. By that universal metric we are all interconnected to the surce of life.
At one time, early in human development humans understood this connection to one another. The American Natives understood it. The European invaders did not. And most still do not, choosing to remain seperate and apart. Othering is an American speciality and this nation does it in spades. Especially conservative Christian Nationalists and Zionists.
Europeans during the age of reason forgot the understanding the ancients once took for granted. While there are traditions that continue to undestand and accept the truth the ancients knew well most are not to be fund in the USA. Outside of Buddhists, Hindus, Sikhs, and perhaps some Muslims and Sufis Certainly not in Empire Chrstianity, Christian Natrionalism or European Zionism.
Anyhoo, it is what it is today. If humankind ever really wakes up and begins to truly cooperate with one another without letting the ego dictate the agenda human potential will be unstopable. If we may very well nt surviive another 1,000 years. Maybe not even a 100 years.
I know that doesn't bother you in the least.
Oh, yeah.
Better be sabjugated and eliminated with the next Holodomor genocide.
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Well.
I understand that for you "becoming smoke from a tubes" is just figure of speach.
You cannot in a wildest dream imagine oneself standing in an endless queue waiting to became that smoke.
And I trying to give a discount to your such (willfool?) blindness.
But sometimes... that duscount grows just too big...
yawn.
//And the main flow today is no longer simple capitalism. It's technofeudalism
You was not able to explain that -feudalism part.
And you not very keen with a techno- part.
Which makes your words just akin to commies screaching about "rotting burgeouis".
And I grown TIRED of that screaching... being listening it, from my birth(while for you... it's a new shiny toy, it seems)
Yaaaawn.
How to explain it to you better.
In your terms. In your realities.
Is there in USA are such dated, such tedious and grossly boring views???
That anyone who hears just first word of that song -- instantly knows it all.
And that over reaction is lije "oh, shuddup... I, don't wanna listen to it"
May it be idea of monarchy?
Or some "if only we could turn back to goo'ol'days if South.... when nijjas knew their place and everything was -- beautiful"?
What coukd this be?
No, it does not.
How do you make $ on the internet. That's technofeudalism.
Do you get paid to post, serf?
Lazy bums behavior.
Yawn
ps - And native cultures were brutal, and not the Hollywood "harmonious" bs you watched as a kid.
Go buy/rent your own server. Connect it to Internet.
And do write there... whatever you like.
But that lazy asses... do not @ant to spend money -- because too risky.
Bur never the less want money? for what? fir their shitty missives??? %^O
You think ziz cretin can understand that Pocahontas doing squats too??? ))))
//Individual Human beings are made of the exact same stuff as exists in the universe. All of us
Yeah,
Made of shit.
And produce shit.
Shit that plants use for growth.
Then animals do it that plants.
Then other animals eat that animals.
Then humans too -- grow plants and animals, to turn em inti SHIT.
//By that universal metric we are all interconnected to the surce of life
Yeah. Source of shit. Yawn.
//At one time, early in human development humans understood this connection to one another.
Yeah,
They was wise.
They practiced cannibalism. %^P
Direct "interconnection"(tm)
Yawn
//Europeans during the age of reason forgot the understanding the ancients once took for granted
Yeah.
"Ancients" knew their shit well. Was living in shit. And keeping shit around.
While "stupid" Europeans invented sanitary measures. And started to keep shit apart.
Be close to natives, shithead. Dismantle your toilet. Stop bathing. Keep your shit around you. ;-p
Bull 💩💩 is your specialty. You do it well.
Have a shitty day.
No I here... claiming my "interconnectedness" with it. ;-p
New spears
We were making those in the '80s.
I have no interest in participating in the internet economy. I spent my years in the physical brick & mortar economy. I participate in the digital realm only to learn, and remember.
With 80s techs
Yawn
Why whining then?
If have no skin in that game?
Youre far to reified in your myopic vision to fully understand the truth of interconnectedness or dependent origination. You're probably so entrenched in the status quo of fascism and capitalism to ever even seriously consider there exits superior alternatives.
Further, you have no intention of having and intellectual stimulating conversation. IOW's words you are not a serious person.
Fine by me. Continue your shitty day.
//...seriously consider there exits superior alternatives.
Like... which one? ;-p
Can you be "intellectual stimulating" even once?
And provide sime *factual*... food for thoughts.
Rethorical question.
You, as any fool, are too high of yourself to concider itself being wrong, not knowing something.
Philosopher Bertrand Russell wrote in his 1929 book Marriage and Morals: "The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt".
PS But... Bertrand Russell -- father of modern Logic, is nobody for you, am I getting right, cretin? ;-p
Yawn... time showed that that Heidegger is a fool.
Natural Order... says that humans need not to exist, can stop to exist any moment or eventually.
As any other animal.
Only technologies do prevent and can prevent it. Can *extend* times of life of Humanity. And even individual human.
I have 3 children and 1 grandchild.
We're ALL fools, Q. As Lacan said, "Les non-dupes errent!" (Those who are NOT fooled err the most!). Or do you know why the monkey dips his balls into your glass of whiskey?
Logical Positivism... @@
Yep... the fiber optic tethers were what made it ultimately impractical. That, and the self-inflicted moral problem of letting a robot fire on human w/o a human in the loop.
Got something better?
Yawn
To what end? To transfer human life to planets ill adapted to sustaining them? To develop new genetic assemblages?
"I know only that, that I know nothing"(c)
I repeat it too rarely, maybe? For you to forget that I wholeheartedly agree with it(and that insecurity is the reason behind my "becoming smarte")
Yawn.
What say you, son of Lessing?
:P
Maybe the goal is the problem. It's impossible. Maybe the goal should be to maximize your jouissance.
My name's Friday, I work on Tuesday, Tuesday's my secretary. Yesterday we went to the beach. Everyone was feeling Mary. Mary left, so everyone jumped for Joy. When Joy left, we left...
Absurdism. "Fail. Fail again. Fail better" (Beckett)
...which is why we love semi-active missiles and not the fire and forget type. We like having humans in the control loop until missile contact to prevent fratricide.
//To what end?
Easy to answer. But will you survive such brutal honesty? Be able to look straight into face of that old hag with an agricultural instrument in her hands?
To that extend fear of death would naggingly pursue you (and way beyond?).
//What say you, son of Lessing?
To every fool that claim not fearing death
there is whole horde of (not less fools?) ones who do.
Means. Evilution(gooood mistyping, gonna keep ir) will always will have toys to play with -- with you, or without.
toom stooopid, toom scared...
Which are one of Logical Positivism tools called "trial and err method".
Yawn.
Meta-Thinking!
In Logical Positivism it is one of tooks called "MiniMax Strategy"
Yawn.
But do not want to build better future for em...
saying "let em go through SAME hardships of life as I did"...
yawn.
Though grandchildren -- hav# no agency yet to influence own future, yet less to build
And children, too busy with everyday struggless. Have neither time nor smarts or influence for strategical overview.
And only you, while having time, and smarts, and experience...
and being provided a whole roadmap of it.
Saying "I better not to".
Go figure what's wrong with you.
Yawn.
heh... so fitting soundtrack... telling/talking
Detachment is masculine. Attachment is feminine. I sail between Charybdis and Scylla. With twists in my sobriety. ;p
We all females... if not for exposure of testosteron.
Yawn.
Odysseus can't save his crew. He arrives back in Ithaca alone. Once he's recovered from the PTSD from the massacre of the Trojans, only then can he go home and put his own house (Ithaca, not the world) back in order. Only after he re-discovers his authenticity, stops acting profilically, and returns to sincerity. The Odysseus of the tightly strung bow, who seeks only a "fair" fight.
...as in a "free market"... not an algorithmically determined one.
So best go cultivate your garden, Professor Pangloss. ;)
...and yet I'm a huge fan of "negative" liberty.
We are all just a weeds in a "garden" of Evilution.
Yawn.
PS And what is the difference between ou and Lessy?
You both subcept godie-goodieness.
No answer here...
We in Logical Positivism don't do that stuff -- do not discuss Politics.
Yawn.
Oh, you mean "evil-ution". ;)
Your ignorance... is that source of fear of... boo-algo-rithms...
yawn.
That thing we dunno the most we tend to fear the most.
Well... that is wise, from Evilution standpoint.
But very stooopid from our human perspective.
Can't you see the virtue in a garden's weeds?
btw - Would you "walk the beans" or spray some herbicide?
Evilution it's what you propose to bend your knees before.
Explicitly or implicity.
And my (and Lem) idea -- to revilt against it.
You tell me. The last time I visited my doctor was in 2005.
"Because I could not stop for Death -" (479)
Emily Dickinson
Because I could not stop for Death -
He kindly stopped for me -
The Carriage held but just Ourselves -
And Immortality.
We slowly drove - He knew no haste
And I had put away
My labor and my leisure too,
For His Civility -
We passed the School, where Children strove
At Recess - in the Ring -
We passed the Fields of Gazing Grain -
We passed the Setting Sun -
Or rather - He passed Us -
The Dews drew quivering and Chill -
For only Gossamer, my Gown -
My Tippet - only Tulle -
We paused before a House that seemed
A Swelling of the Ground -
The Roof was scarcely visible -
The Cornice - in the Ground -
Since then - 'tis Centuries - and yet
Feels shorter than the Day
I first surmised the Horses' Heads
Were toward Eternity -
Seen the new one? AIM-424? Even it has mid-course guidance options before final "active" engagement.
CRISPR away, Dr. Moreau!
We... forced to do our own "garden" anyway.
Even if one are poor and have no real estate. He still ought to garden own body.
If even body poor... there is mind.
That is burden of a White Ma... I mean, anybody who exist.
What is Eternity?
Little boy answered...
well
google for yourself "dr who breaking wall"
Acta non verba.
So when we'd see you destroying Iran with it?
China?
That is all w#apon if a scared to shit.
Yawn.
For that... one need to became smarter.
Learn genetics for at least. ;-p
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