"All is number"
-Pythagoras
"Numbers Rule the Universe"
-Pythagoras
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from Google AI:
Isaiah Berlin's concept of incommensurable values argues that fundamental human values (like liberty, justice, equality, mercy) are often incompatible and can't be measured on a single scale, meaning choosing more of one often means less of another (e.g., more liberty, less security). This leads to value pluralism, where no single, universal hierarchy of values exists, making moral choices tragic sacrifices, and necessitating a liberal society that protects freedom (negative liberty) to allow diverse, often conflicting, good lives to flourish.
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from Wikipedia:
Gödel's Incompleteness Theorems, published by Kurt Gödel in 1931, fundamentally limit what formal mathematical systems can prove, stating that any consistent system powerful enough to do basic arithmetic will contain true statements that cannot be proven within the system itself (First Theorem), and that such a system cannot prove its own consistency (Second Theorem). These theorems revealed that truth and provability are not the same, shattering the dream of a complete, self-contained mathematical foundation by showing there are inherent limits to any axiomatic system.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0AVZNYE9Rc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOMOosdPeoA&list=PLybqkVWtsEPE1lE7vaLeVi-uDIprnewpH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRk5VSEzJ4Y
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Moral/ Ethical Platitudes...
I enjoy the prof, but can't take him seriously on some issues.
About what was expected. Reified beliefs are very difficult to let go of. I know from years of prior wallowing in them. Fortunately, the attachment to them can be disolved and discarded. For anything to change the attachment to beliefs cherished by the ego as well as the ego's aversion to things that threaten it must be let go of. An extremely difficult process for the I am ego that the majority if us cling to.
Each to their on while those who sense [see] a better way work to acheive unity and harmony.
I see great potential in a cooperative effort to acheive what all of us really desire. Happiness, peace, and minimizing suffering.
Anyhoo, so it goes...
I see cooperative efforts as the source of all suffering.
As total (or even the minimally requisite) "agreement" is not possible.
Mimetic desire IS conflict.
...and humans have way too many "mirror neurons".
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Which is why the 2nd video (and your statement) is a bag of platitudes.
Desire and ego centered beliefs and actions create conflict and suffering. Which is not to say be a dormat. Rather it means be understanding and respectful of others and not attempt change by force. A nation that believes it is always right and just is a nation of ignorance. European nations and America have always been mired in self righteousness and inflated national ego. And in America that means both the red R's and the blue D's.
Unfortunately nothing has changed in that respect under Trump. But he sure is hurting the American people lacking in wealth. Ultimately the pressure cooker he is creating will explode resulting in the exact opposite of his stated intentions.
My view. We'll see whose views are ultimately correct. Or, for me, I may not live long enough to actually experience the ultimate results of what I think is short sightedness.
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There's nothing "Unique" in American or European national ego inflation.
And there is something worse than imposing values by force. It's imposing them through deception and censorship that preclude freedom of "informed" choice.
...and THAT view, my friend, is what makes American and European civilization "unique" (Isaiah Berlin letter to George Kennan in 1951).
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Your informed choice is perfectly fine, until it infringes upon MY informed choice< i>. Which is precisely the intent of authoritarian conservative Christian Nationalists and MAGA. In which case I resist to the extent of violence if neccessary to secure MYinformed choice is respected and honored.
Your choice and mine are both misinformed.
Probably :-)
Since impermanence lurks things could change.
Certainly
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