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Those who are devoid of purpose will make the void their purpose.
Excerpt from comments made at another blog...
1. Why is it that mass shootings, even on a per capita basis are are more prevalent in the US than any other country
It's a problem of identity technologies. We want to be our "authentic" selves. But where do we get our sense of ourselves? From the culture. From the media. From films/ music/ entertainment industries. As Nietzsche said, G_d is dead. We no longer get it from church or religious institutions.
Clues for who one is, or would like to be, were increasingly provided by the emerging media, especially in novels (Flaneurs?). These new media, Luhmann writes, invite people “to try out virtual realities” they encounter in the media. People began to identify, or not identify, with the protagonists in literature.
To make things a bit more complicated, Luhmann suggests that when reading novels or watching movies, people become accustomed to second-order observation. He says: “You learn to observe observers, this is to say how people react in situations, how they observe themselves.” By observing in the media how others observe, readers or viewers can draw conclusions about themselves: they can relate themselves creatively to fictional characters. Luhmann says: “What is offered in entertainment does not commit anyone to anything particular, but it provides clues … for personal identity work.”
Like modern society in general, this new type of identity is highly dynamic. Luhmann says: “You can choose yourself and are not even obliged to stick with your choice when things get serious.” What Luhmann describes here is close to what I call “profilicity”: An “identity technology” consisting in a curation of profiles.
In novels and movies, we see, in a fictional, game-like setting, how different profiles emerge in feedback-loops with their audiences. You can observe these profiles, and relate them to yourself, try them out to see how they work, and then develop your own identity in a similar way.
2. What solutions, if you were king for a day, would you institute to stop the problem? If any?
Although a return to 1st order observation would be impossible, I would try and alter the Economic Sector to discourage "bigness" (large multi-national corporations) and try and revitalize "small business'". Change the tax code correspondingly. Break the pay-to-play CEO-Government alliance. If people had a stake (ie- purpose) in their jobs (were self employed... but not Uber'like tech-feudalism run), they could spend more time being their "authentic selves" and less time being wage-slaves immersed in a culture-industry fed vicious cycle of 24/7 capitalism. I'd try to discourage screen time and replace it with face time.... in-person events, like the Spartan syssitia. Who knows, maybe I'd even institute a screen-time prohibition between of after certain hours. I'd make things "less efficient" all around and hope people got "bored" enough to create their own culturally rich and diverse activities (write "folk songs" and make-up fairy tales.
Would it work? Probably not. But it would probably reduce school shootings.
Ultimately, I think that the Korean-German philosopher Byung-Chul Han has got it right. We need breaks in the 24/7 information flows assaulting us 24/7. We need to take the time to digest some of that "information" and turn it into "knowledge". knowledge of our culture. But primarily, knowledge of ourselves. A better "identity construction tech".
Did you read the Tennessee shooter's manifesto today? On and on ramblings about wealth and 'cracker' privilege... Why does a white girl-turned-boy care/ obsess about white privilege? Where did she "get that from"? How did that tie with her "curated" "Identity" as a male? Why was she "recording" all this?
IMO - she FUNDAMENTALLY overidentified with the source of her own complaint. Hatred of Whiteness, and her suicide and that of her victims were chosen BECAUSE of it.
What all these other countries lack is the nihilistic sense of purpose, and a fixed identity (multiculturalism). The Japanese are a monoculture, and the diversity in Europe is a relatively recent phenomena. Was it Sweden where the mass shooter went after Jews? When it comes to "identity", multiculturalism isn't our friend.
Like Travis in Taxi Driver ... (IMPORTANT TO WATCH)
A symbolic deadlock resulting in violence. His/ Her own "whiteness IMO, the solution lies in curing the underlying socio-cultural-economic based problem, not some easy fix like "take away every object that can cause harm". That's just treating the symptom, not curing the disease.
In the 1920's & 30s people lived in ethnic ghettoes and fought with the Irish or Puerto-Ricans. They had their old identities. In America today, most no longer have that. The white ones, anyways. If they identify as white, they're labelled racists.
Symbolic deadlock
Identity politics is an attack on identity. And the ONLY identity that it is socially acceptable to attack, in America, is white identity. Welcome to the symbolic deadlock and ensuing SuperEgo Death Driven driven nihilism. Welcome to the shift from "Irish" to "trans"... "gay"... feminism"... I could go on. G_d forgive anyone should retain "German" (Nazi) or a more generic "white".
Being an "ally" isn't going to save you. It's simply fingernails clinging to a cliff.
Psychologically, it's only a small symbolic step between "universalism" and "nihilism" I love you ALL, and I love No-ONe. And do you know "where" the desire for Universalism comes from? A sense of Racial Superiority... of existing "beyond ignorant petty human bias". Which is the reason you have to attack "whiteness".... as proof of you unbias. It's a sham. That's why the "unwritten rule" of your social circle is that you can't point out the fault of any other person's racial group... only your own. And you must "defer" to any person of colour who speaks (intersectionality).
Believe me when I tell you that your "unbiased" universalist position isn't an "objective one" or a "superior" one. It's a racist one. A racist holding on to a fetish of "intellectual superiority"
CONCLUSION:
America's Identity Politics Driven Cultural and Social Media based "Identity Tech" is "Queering the World"
Why Take Others with Me?
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\\So my question still stands... why do Americans, at a much higher rate than others around the world, for instance in Europe, Australia, Japan, etc., engage in mass shootings?
/Your media made it popular.
Starting from Hollywood movies.
In Bollywood (moviemaker of India) movies people dance and sing... and ordinary indians do dance and sing, and feel itself happy. ;-P
That explains their methods of expression of violence, but why are the incidences higher America? Our movies are shown in all those places, too, but they don't shoot up schools as often. I think that it stems from the social deadlock white Americans experience that denies them the ability to take pride in their cultural identity, and forces them to emphasize surrogate identities like LBGTQ+ that are "praised" and "affirmed".
\\The white majority, of which I am a part, has a history of afflicting the powerless. Now that the white majority is being called on it, they're bawling "We're being descriminated against!"
/How much of that "white majority" of the Past, that which was "afflicting the powerless"... (well, isn't White was majority of aflicted, anyway) is still here, and in-person? To punish em.
So... you think that punishing grandchildren for the "sins of grandfathers"... even though in that time that what that grandfathers did was not a crime -- but nearly ONLY possible line of behavior, are you? ;-P
Well... then get ready so your grandchildren will be punished same way... for your "crimes". ;-P
I'd leave that answer to Shaw, or pShaw, as I affectionately call her. ;)
\\The Japanese are a monoculture, and the diversity in Europe is a relatively recent phenomena.
/Yap.
There was no Medieval times. When each town have had own history and even language. :-)))))
To USAians... nothing existed pre 1795. :-))))
Yes, that is about the moment when Americans registered their "classical liberal" set-point. pShaw and her "progressive" friends probably set theirs around 1962 with the Port Huron Statement and the birth of the New Left.
First order observation isn't possible? What about relative to ones own experiences during meditative absorption? Just curious what your thoughts are on this.
It's possible, but no longer the cultural default mode.
We no longer primarily "perform" our profile for ourselves, we now primarily perform it for others, and virtue signal it on Facebook or Twitter/X. We "advertise" ourselves.
I'm doing it right now on this blog.
I used to do it at my job (as employee), for my family (as father) or in social situations with other first hand observers (friends/ coworkers). I now do it more publicly, not only for "family, friends, or professional acquaintances, but for a more "general peer" (the internet stranger). I somehow value their "clicks" more than the money of my employer or esteem of family/friends.
Call it "socialism", if you like.
...or as Professor Moeller calls it, "Profilicity".
"To predict the behaviour of ordinary people in advance, you only have to assume that they will always try to escape a disagreeable situation with the smalles possible expenditure of intelligence." - Nietzsche
And in a consumer oriented society, it will most likely result in a choice between options given by others, not of something originally thought up by one's-self or someone of a more skeptical/ heterodox nature. They will go with the choice they perceive to be the most socially accepted (probability wise) and thereby avoid disagreement/ argument. "Why? Because I said so!"
Who is right, Palestinians or israeli's? See?
Pundit A say's Palestinians. Pundit B insists Israeli's. Compare arguments. Choose. Don't insist upon a dialectic where A&B work together to find the truth. Let it be a debate (if you're lucky) or let it be the result of a court judgement where both sides are "impartially" heard, instead.
Or let it be a "peer review" with a willing and able "general peer".
\\That explains their methods of expression of violence, but why are the incidences higher America?
Not just Hollywood. But your media too.
Even I, foreigner from far-far-away know about such thing as hot reporting of car pursuits. And etc.
That even have own name "15 minutes of glory in TV", isn't it?
Well... availability of weapon... is just a seasonong on it.
\\I'd leave that answer to Shaw, or pShaw, as I affectionately call her. ;)
And as you see -- there's no answer.
Lefties... they not about answering. They about crying and passing plame -- femalish culture. ;-P
\\We no longer primarily "perform" our profile for ourselves, we now primarily perform it for others, and virtue signal it on Facebook or Twitter/X. We "advertise" ourselves.
Go watch some good documentary about: primates/monkeys, about some foster tribes...
\\I used to do it at my job (as employee), for my family (as father) or in social situations with other first hand observers (friends/ coworkers). I now do it more publicly, not only for "family, friends, or professional acquaintances, but for a more "general peer" (the internet stranger). I somehow value their "clicks" more than the money of my employer or esteem of family/friends.
Naturally.
That is what street performers do... from ancient times.
Much more diverse. Much richer response. And one can repeat one and the same trick on and on. ;-)
\\"To predict the behaviour of ordinary people in advance, you only have to assume that they will always try to escape a disagreeable situation with the smalles possible expenditure of intelligence." - Nietzsche
Physics. Principle of Least Action.
Yawn.
\\Or let it be a "peer review" with a willing and able "general peer".
And both will be dabating not with facts, not from inside of some reasonable framwork.
But from their propaganda and prejudgeses.
Thank you, but no, thank you. ;-P
Well. You can see such dabates... half of it -- in my talks with Derpy.
Like it?
As I thought.
\That explains their methods of expression of violence, but why are the incidences higher America?
/Not just Hollywood. But your media too.
Even I, foreigner from far-far-away know about such thing as hot reporting of car pursuits. And etc.
That even have own name "15 minutes of glory in TV", isn't it?
Well... availability of weapon... is just a seasonong on it.
They want to ban guns, I want to fix the underlying socio-economic problems that lead people to misusing them.
\\I'd leave that answer to Shaw, or pShaw, as I affectionately call her. ;)
/And as you see -- there's no answer.
Lefties... they not about answering. They about crying and passing plame -- femalish culture. ;-P
I was reflecting on my post today on Sartre's "gaze". They see themselves as female, always "being-for-others" and reduced to a Master's object and their own "Facticity"... like the Black man in the example at the end. I see myself as unlimited/transcendent possibility, much as you see yourself.
\\We no longer primarily "perform" our profile for ourselves, we now primarily perform it for others, and virtue signal it on Facebook or Twitter/X. We "advertise" ourselves.
/Go watch some good documentary about: primates/monkeys, about some foster tribes...
Foster tribes? Can you be more specific? What about them?
\\I used to do it at my job (as employee), for my family (as father) or in social situations with other first hand observers (friends/ coworkers). I now do it more publicly, not only for "family, friends, or professional acquaintances, but for a more "general peer" (the internet stranger). I somehow value their "clicks" more than the money of my employer or esteem of family/friends.
/Naturally.
That is what street performers do... from ancient times.
Much more diverse. Much richer response. And one can repeat one and the same trick on and on. ;-)
I am an "old dog" with only one trick, after all. Maybe I should put out a tin cup like the other YouTube performers... ;)
...but I'm sure that they need the money more than I do. :)
\\"To predict the behaviour of ordinary people in advance, you only have to assume that they will always try to escape a disagreeable situation with the smalles possible expenditure of intelligence." - Nietzsche
/Physics. Principle of Least Action.
Yawn.
Psychology as well. Wanna know what a "laugh" is after someone else tells a joke? It's a release of the surplus psychic energy one receives/expends from not having to think up the cleverness one's-self (Freud).
\\Or let it be a "peer review" with a willing and able "general peer".
/And both will be dabating not with facts, not from inside of some reasonable framwork.
But from their propaganda and prejudgeses.
Thank you, but no, thank you. ;-P
Sometimes you just gotta take what you can get. Our society is currently set up to prefer argument (both sides seeking confirmation bias) over dialectic (both sides trying to find the truth). Very few even offer a Steel man argument as opposed to a Straw man one.
/Well. You can see such dabates... half of it -- in my talks with Derpy.
Like it?
As I thought.
It's not pretty... and neither are mine.
\\They want to ban guns, I want to fix the underlying socio-economic problems that lead people to misusing them.
Both working from wrong preassumptions.
Like you ignoring "can of worms" problem.
Well... there is a good point from their side -- that the more weapon available, the more probability of misuse it... people just not that creatures, to behave wisely around (potential) danger. (and actual they tend to over react too...)
But neither of you can admit it... because of political reasons. And "plans in plans". ;-P
\\ like the Black man in the example at the end. I see myself as unlimited/transcendent possibility, much as you see yourself.
Only potential. Only... potential.
You, and I saw it in other Ams... looks like belive in actual "transcendence".
\\Foster tribes? Can you be more specific? What about them?
That that is nothing new.
That our cousins and ancestors playing this games... for dozen millions of years already -- group dinamics, socialization, lying and decieaving.
\\Psychology as well. Wanna know what a "laugh" is after someone else tells a joke? It's a release of the surplus psychic energy one receives/expends from not having to think up the cleverness one's-self (Freud).
Psychology sitting on top of Physics.
We was talking about it -- blending together of all Science.
Well, current state of it -- is unstable horrible happening. :-((
\\Our society is currently set up to prefer argument (both sides seeking confirmation bias) over dialectic (both sides trying to find the truth).
Only when you'd come to understanding of "nothing new under the Sun"... you'd make first step on the yellow bricks road of enlightment? ;-P
Am I playful enough? And hope not offensive? I hope.
Well, that way.
\\Very few even offer a Steel man argument as opposed to a Straw man one.
You'd know that that is two millenium problem.
Like... that dead chicken, with torn out feathers. ;-P
\\It's not pretty... and neither are mine.
You are not jedi... yet. ;-)
\\They want to ban guns, I want to fix the underlying socio-economic problems that lead people to misusing them.
/Both working from wrong preassumptions.
Like you ignoring "can of worms" problem.
Well... there is a good point from their side -- that the more weapon available, the more probability of misuse it... people just not that creatures, to behave wisely around (potential) danger. (and actual they tend to over react too...)
But neither of you can admit it... because of political reasons. And "plans in plans". ;-P
My plan is pretty obvious, theirs MUCH more devious. ps - I like worms.
\\ like the Black man in the example at the end. I see myself as unlimited/transcendent possibility, much as you see yourself.
/Only potential. Only... potential.
You, and I saw it in other Ams... looks like belive in actual "transcendence".
You looking for a determinism v. free will argument? Talk to Immanuel Kant. He'll give you his "Critique of Pure Reason" arguments. Or maybe you'd prefer Nietzsche's "Everything is a lie" from "The Gay Science".
\\Foster tribes? Can you be more specific? What about them?
/That that is nothing new.
That our cousins and ancestors playing this games... for dozen millions of years already -- group dinamics, socialization, lying and decieaving.
Yes, it is all rather hopeless, so we now deceive ourselves.
\\Psychology as well. Wanna know what a "laugh" is after someone else tells a joke? It's a release of the surplus psychic energy one receives/expends from not having to think up the cleverness one's-self (Freud).
/Psychology sitting on top of Physics.
We was talking about it -- blending together of all Science.
Well, current state of it -- is unstable horrible happening. :-((
You dislike "the renaissance man" and/ or "polymath genius" approach to science? Revolutionary science? More of a Karl Popper type?
\\Our society is currently set up to prefer argument (both sides seeking confirmation bias) over dialectic (both sides trying to find the truth).
/Only when you'd come to understanding of "nothing new under the Sun"... you'd make first step on the yellow bricks road of enlightment? ;-P
And you, Perses, already prefer but Mallow and Asphodel (Works and Days)?
/Am I playful enough? And hope not offensive? I hope.
Ditto ;)
\\Very few even offer a Steel man argument as opposed to a Straw man one.
/You'd know that that is two millenium problem.
Like... that dead chicken, with torn out feathers. ;-P
Nietzsche, "Gay Science" (112) then (13)
\\It's not pretty... and neither are mine.
/You are not jedi... yet. ;-)
...nor Padawan. Just Autodidact.
...a classical liberal. liber as in free. liber as in book. Classical as in from the past. About the future written in the present/ recent past. (ie- science fiction).
...Nietzsche's third metamorphosis. A child :P
\\My plan is pretty obvious, theirs MUCH more devious. ps - I like worms.
They all say that... while throwing some worms on the plate of political opponents. ;-P
\\You looking for a determinism v. free will argument?
You said you want some fusion reactor?
Do you want it in metal... or just some pile of babbling about it?
\\Yes, it is all rather hopeless, so we now deceive ourselves.
Well. It alwats was.
You know -- entropy.
\\You dislike "the renaissance man" and/ or "polymath genius" approach to science? Revolutionary science? More of a Karl Popper type?
Was I not eloquent enough praizing Techs? ;-)
\\And you, Perses...
Calling me a "titan". And "demolisher". Is such a big exaggeration... that it should mean something?
But most visibly -- it's not.
I am... mustard seed. Trying hard to not be eaten for nothing. And to give a sprout...
\\Nietzsche, "Gay Science" (112) then (13)
Yeah.
I see that as a technological problem, too(???).
Progress need to be joyful, or there'd be none.
So above all, I seeking for the way to make it joyful... for me too.
(as always, Lem give a spotlight on that part too)
Well... if I got anything right from this comment...
\\\\It's not pretty... and neither are mine.
/You are not jedi... yet. ;-)
\\...nor Padawan. Just Autodidact.
Let's try to explain it from other side.
Do patologoanatoms LIKE their work? Do gardener LIKE it... when they need to add manure to fertilize their grounds?
Or that saying about politics and sosages...
Another words... for what all this... if one doing it half-assed? And do not make decisive conclusions?
\\...a classical liberal. liber as in free. liber as in book.
Arbeit macht frei?
Ehm.
Labor omnia vincit?
/They all say that... while throwing some worms on the plate of political opponents. ;-P
We are all food for worms, in the end.
/You said you want some fusion reactor?
Do you want it in metal... or just some pile of babbling about it?
A containment field will do just fine.
\\You dislike "the renaissance man" and/ or "polymath genius" approach to science? Revolutionary science? More of a Karl Popper type?
/Was I not eloquent enough praizing Techs? ;-)
But perhaps not elegant enough in praising men of "quality" vs. "quantity".
\\And you, Perses...
/Calling me a "titan". And "demolisher". Is such a big exaggeration... that it should mean something?
But most visibly -- it's not.
I am... mustard seed. Trying hard to not be eaten for nothing. And to give a sprout...
One who favors the wrong Strife. Hesiod, "Works and Days"
Zeus who thunders aloft and has his dwelling most high. Attend thou with eye and ear, and make judgements straight with righteousness. And I, Perses, would tell of true things.
So, after all, there was not one kind of Strife alone, but all over the earth there are two. As for the one, a man would praise her when he came to understand her; but the other is blameworthy: and they are wholly different in nature.....
Perses, lay up these things in your heart, and do not let that Strife who delights in mischief hold your heart back from work, while you peep and peer and listen to the wrangles of the court-house. Little concern has he with quarrels and courts who has not a year's victuals laid up betimes, even that which the earth bears, Demeter's grain. When you have got plenty of that, you can raise disputes and strive to get another's goods. But you shall have no second chance to deal so again: nay, let us settle our dispute here with true judgement divided our inheritance, but you seized the greater share and carried it off, greatly swelling the glory of our bribe-swallowing lords who love to judge such a cause as this. Fools!
...an unenightened soul?
\\Nietzsche, "Gay Science" (112) then (13)
/Yeah.
I see that as a technological problem, too(???).
Progress need to be joyful, or there'd be none.
So above all, I seeking for the way to make it joyful... for me too.
(as always, Lem give a spotlight on that part too)
Well... if I got anything right from this comment...
...e-h-h-h.
\\...nor Padawan. Just Autodidact.
/Let's try to explain it from other side.
Do patologoanatoms LIKE their work? Do gardener LIKE it... when they need to add manure to fertilize their grounds?
Or that saying about politics and sosages...
Another words... for what all this... if one doing it half-assed? And do not make decisive conclusions?
Plato, Jowett summary of "Phaedrus"
Enough of the art of speaking; let us now proceed to consider the true use of writing. There is an old Egyptian tale of Theuth, the inventor of writing, showing his invention to the god Thamus, who told him that he would only spoil men's memories and take away their understandings. From this tale, of which young Athens will probably make fun, may be gathered the lesson that writing is inferior to speech. For it is like a picture, which can give no answer to a question, and has only a deceitful likeness of a living creature. It has no power of adaptation, but uses the same words for all. It is not a legitimate son of knowledge, but a bastard, and when an attack is made upon this bastard neither parent nor anyone else is there to defend it. The husbandman will not seriously incline to sow his seed in such a hot-bed or garden of Adonis; he will rather sow in the natural soil of the human soul which has depth of earth; and he will anticipate the inner growth of the mind, by writing only, if at all, as a remedy against old age. The natural process will be far nobler, and will bring forth fruit in the minds of others as well as in his own.
\\...a classical liberal. liber as in free. liber as in book.
Arbeit macht frei?
Ehm.
Labor omnia vincit?
More requiescat in pace.
\\We are all food for worms, in the end.
Desho. :-/
See, how I evaded the harm... with using foreign language word.
\\A containment field will do just fine.
There's no force fields in this Reality, in this Universe -- will be constructing new one by your own drawings -- do not forget to add it into To-Do list. ;-)
\\But perhaps not elegant enough in praising men of "quality" vs. "quantity".
That one... was inevitable.
I dunno -- what's the difference? (remember? I'm prol)
\\One who favors the wrong Strife. Hesiod, "Works and Days"
In e sense... there's only one strife -- against Enthropy.
@@.
\\...an unenightened soul?
I?
Probably.
Sorry for the bother. And for disappointment. :-(
\\More requiescat in pace.
Well.
Corner stone of Bushido (warrior code of samurais) is envisioning own death, and became ready to die any moment... so that would not bother one during fight. ;-)
And samurais... is like model image of Courage. ;-)
At least for Japanese.
Watched et on flik from Kurosava.
"Drunken Angel" this time. Simple and ple... well, mild, or what other word to chose.
Oh, gentle. Yes, gentle.
\\But perhaps not elegant enough in praising men of "quality" vs. "quantity".
/...I dunno -- what's the difference? (remember? I'm prol)
Degrees of neuroticism and absurdity
\\One who favors the wrong Strife. Hesiod, "Works and Days"
/In e sense... there's only one strife -- against Enthropy. @@.
Would you curse or praise it?
\\...an unenightened soul?
/I?
Probably.
Sorry for the bother. And for disappointment. :-(
Don't feel bad. Meden agan!
\\More requiescat in pace.
/Well.
Corner stone of Bushido (warrior code of samurais) is envisioning own death, and became ready to die any moment... so that would not bother one during fight. ;-)
And samurais... is like model image of Courage. ;-)
At least for Japanese.
I practice Bullshito... :)
Korosawa....haven't seen that one. :(
\\Degrees of neuroticism and absurdity
Prols have no time for that. ;-P
\\Would you curse or praise it?
And what's that'll change?
It's the same as with Derpy's "I believe in facts" -- Reality is utterly indifferent to it.
\\Degrees of neuroticism and absurdity
Prols have no time for that. ;-P
\\Would you curse or praise it?
/And what's that'll change?
It's the same as with Derpy's "I believe in facts" -- Reality is utterly indifferent to it.
Is it? What's your objet petit 'a today? Have you caught it yet? Or has it already transformed into a tree?
Prols have no time for that ;-P
They do once they retire. :)
Pft!
Prols never retire. ;-P
Well, the married ones, anyways. :(
I see no point in that pShaw.
Not disclosing my comments... even one with Mark Twain Governor texts.
Thart snowflake. ;-P
I give up.
PS But... if you want, and ready to behave more sneakily, I am ready to direct you to some fine pastures. ;-) (well, you have many faces... so maybe you'd have more chances)
pShaw is an idiot. What places do you have in mind? And you want me to be sneaky... I used to be very sneaky. ;)
Do you know such a name? David Brin? ;-)
He have very tight echo-chamber.
So, if you'd start from get go with your MAGA taunts... you probably will nt be disclosed.
But... if you'd be patient, and will blend with DEMN choir of edmirers there... at first. ;-)
Was able to squize-in such a post there:
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\\I am under no obligation to publish your comments.
:-)))))))
And you want YOUR ONLY voice to be heard? ;-P
Whatever.
Suit yourself.
\\You have been comment-bombing this site over the past few days; and, for reasons known only to you, you've withheld your name and avatar.
Whatever.
With such your attitude... I do not feel ANY obligation to serve you with such a coutresy.
I used too.
But such a DEMNS as you teached me that that is merely "feeding swines with a pearls" -- only thing it will be used to -- to find something in my person to start slender me and hints for bad-name-calling.
So, what for? I need to give to SUCH as YOU ... such my weakness to attack?
Am I DEMN idiot? No, I'm not. ;-P
\\I' m aware of your habit of monopolizing and shutting down discussions on threads on blogs where you're allowed to post.
Monopolizing??? :-)))))
So, you relentless and cowardly CENZURE is NOT "monopolizing"?
Full Control of Narrative. So only seamless-minded allowed to chant in choir. ;-P
Such a Openness. And Diversity Allowing. And Democratic. :-)))))))
Ough'Coughs. :-)))))
\\And, as I stated, I'm under no obligation to post every comment that's in Comment Moderation.
Yap.
Especially THAT comments... that pose an Argument. That would ruine all your Narrative. ;-P
DEMN Honesty.
That's why you DO NOT like open discussions.
And hiding behind wall of cenzure in your cosy echo-chambers. ;-P
And say I am wrong. LOL!
\\You appear to have some sort of compulsion to dominate a discussion in order to prove you're the smartest commenter on the thread.
Naaah.
That's just natural.
I am much smarter. ;-P
And that what makes you such a wuss.
Even though there is ONLY ONE way to became smarter -- training. You smarts in an open to duscussions environment. ;-P
So... *I* am in fault... that you do not go into Intellect Gym. That you allowed you intellectual muscles to be substituted with intellectual fat????
PS And well... your brain really grown deficient.
I am not FJ, as you seems like thinking here.
This your words -- "shutting down discussions on threads on blogs where you're allowed to post."
You could not know it... if you are not frequent on the blog of FJ.
And there no evidances that you are.
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PS But I would not be holding breath waiting it to be unclosed.
/Do you know such a name? David Brin? ;-)
He have very tight echo-chamber.
So, if you'd start from get go with your MAGA taunts... you probably will nt be disclosed.
But... if you'd be patient, and will blend with DEMN choir of edmirers there... at first. ;-)
Sounds sneaky. Got a URL???
Was able to squize-in such a post there:
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\\I am under no obligation to publish your comments.
:-)))))))
And you want YOUR ONLY voice to be heard? ;-P
Whatever.
Suit yourself.
Sounds like pShaw. What a douchebag. The rest is pShaw?
ps - pShaw often posts my comments for one reason only. They generate clicks/ rage.
Generation from opposites.
\\Sounds sneaky. Got a URL???
First... maybe we'd discuss some preparations? ;-)
He... because of interference of certain someone ;-), thrugged off all pretence of being democratic in ruling over his blog: allowing opposing voices, allowing anons...
So, now only TIGHT group of admirers allowed to post there -- THERE ARE miserly PRE-moderation is ON.
So... if you'd not start from how you like great an famous mister b(r)in... even your neutral missive could possible not go below radar... and will not be posted.
The best starting point -- to ask him about movies made by his book. How you like em. How you wait new ones based on his latest books. ;-)
Then... repeat some of his point in that post (well, I known, it would need you to read that shit... but). Like from yourself. Or by admitting how it wise. It's up to you.
Then... you need to choose someone of his minions to talk with.
By showing yourself Demn of DEMNS... to inqure em about not following, not showing enough piety to DEMN dogmas.
Enough to digest for now.
If you interested in it. I could give more hints. Like about his minions and etc.
PS about his link... it more then obvious. And it is here, in blogger too (He have other, in WordPress, but call it official... I deem it as no discussions possible there)
\\ps - pShaw often posts my comments for one reason only. They generate clicks/ rage.
Yap. Davy was used to it too.
But after his TDS gone into terminal stage... only closer ass-kissrs allowed. ;-P
They guy sounds like a malignant narcissist. I don't think I can suck up for that long, sorry. And after sucking up, he'll just delete all comments. Best engage him at someone else's site where he can't. Does he have links to his suck-up friends and post at their sites?
A place where I can been his "critic" and not his "Onlyfan"?
\\They guy sounds like a malignant narcissist. I don't think I can suck up for that long, sorry. And after sucking up, he'll just delete all comments. Best engage him at someone else's site where he can't.
:-))))))))))
You wish.
He have complex of superstar. And wearing out testosterone. So he bahave like that old prima donna. Everybody need to bend their knees... before her past glory. ;-P
\\ Does he have links to his suck-up friends and post at their sites?
Naaah.
As you could envision it yourself... they all are mules.
\\A place where I can been his "critic" and not his "Onlyfan"?
Well... there are couple of opposing dudes. Davy keeped for pretended "diversity".
Not very smart. So he/she used to smile-out any their attempt.
But to take their place... you need to show some benevolence. Agreement to be treated as a fool/jester... in her "royal" court. ;-P
Sounds like something more up my alley.
Can I observe it?
Only if you have a URL/ link to his site.
...and tell me what it is. ;)
Was I not obvious enough???
Name is obvious "davidbrin" for David Brin. Here on blogspot.com.
Or... just ask Google. It would be glad to serve you (and add your question to his stashed collection of your choices/questions)
About that echo-chamber... I dunno what you'd do with it.
My last goal was -- to ensure that it'll stop it's deceptive pretence of "allowing open and diverse opinions" -- as that was a lie.
Obvious DEMN lie, as we know it today. Both?
And seems like I achieved it -- now he ruling over it with a vingance -- through lame pre-moderation. To which local public FOOLLY agree to. ;-P
DEMNs... they just LIKE being under totalitarian yoke. :-)))))
It seems.
To protect em... from "violations"... of freedom of speach.
Perfectly 100% female-like behavior. ;-P
I'll look for it.
Well... it able to rise some moderately complex questions (whichattracted me at first)...
but, not able to withstand em being criticized. ;-P
By much smarter opponent especially. ;-P (is it humble bragging already? :-))))
Nope, that's just plain old "regular" bragging. ;)
But it was neither.
That is not my smartness. Or lack of it. Is a stumbling stone here...
The emphasis was all wrong. Yours was a "modest" brag followed by an over-deprecating comment. The brag must be BIG and the self-deprecation small.
And David Brinn will have to wait for a better new comment. The guy's trying to play internet influencer while he virtue signals his ass off.
That's the problem... you still thinking that I tryed to brag.
What for???
Like... it maybe looking to you like I talked with some celebrity, and made fool of him... and bragging about it.
While it all only make me upset. And I am still upset. :-(((
In misanthropic sense. :-(((
Okay, I just left a comment. We'll see if there's a response, or just "cancellation".
Did you accustomed yourself to the airs there, beforehand?
Tryed to poke someone?
How's to you topics there? Might be similar to your "philisopers". ;-)
Hah.
Looks like you received your 5 minutes of attention from "mighty and magnificent". ;-P
Did he banned you already?
Like I was not telling you, not tryed to prepare you.
But I see it even grown in it's arrogance (calling people idiots from get go). And got couple more kneejerkers... around it.
Good, good progress. :-))))
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But there happen to happen good things... unintentionally.
Because of mere flyes coming to that lighter "CONTRARY" you got cought too. I am, too.
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Kurt Vonnegut’s eight rules of writing:
1) Use the time of a total stranger in such a way that he or she will not feel the time was wasted.
2) Give the reader at least one character he or she can root for.
3) Every character should want something, even if it is only a glass of water.
4) Every sentence must do one of two things — reveal character or advance the action.
5) Start as close to the end as possible.
6) Be a sadist. No matter how sweet and innocent your leading characters, make awful things happen to them — in order that the reader may see what they are made of.
7) Write to please just one person. If you open a window and make love to the world, so to speak, your story will get pneumonia.
8) Give your readers as much information as possible as soon as possible. To heck with suspense. Readers should have such complete understanding of what is going on, where and why, that they could finish the story themselves, should cockroaches eat the last few pages.
“The greatest American short story writer of my generation was Flannery O’Connor. She broke practically every one of my rules but the first. Great writers tend to do that.”
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Well. Could I use it to tell my story. Or what I lacking to do that?
2. Dunno. Hardly I can hit such an elusive target -- of cultural preferences.
4. It's nearly impossible... as to every real thing there need to be tons of preparations.
5. Well... I tryed... with my ideas of Ovos and Space Conquest. But again -- cultural preferences -- there is wrong time to sell such things, to overfeeded public, :-(
6. Easy Peasy!
7. Heh.
8. Hard thing to achieve... while talking about things not existing (yet), not having names even (yet).
When cyberpunk appeared... there was computers for at least...
It was what it was. David already "knows everything". Such people are hard to convince of anything. They only respond to the torpedo's shock. And I don't think he deserves a "mind bullet".
He'd evade it like Neo in the ending of Matrix ;-P
Yes, its not an easy thing to do. You need to get the target to "overthink" his opponent and "want" to engage with him. It requires an imagined "inducement". With me it was "indirectly" presented as an important WH job for an incoming President (GWB). It would have to be something that the victim would really want.
\\Yes, its not an easy thing to do. You need to get the target to "overthink" his opponent and "want" to engage with him.
What for???
It unable to grok/produce ideas of interesting to me level anyway.
And I am not a crook.
By the way... happen to have something looking like thoughful discussion with DiDi (Dave Dubya)... in his blog. ;-)
Yes, I'm sure "con men" use it. A "sting" or a "long con".
And good for you. I have yet to have one. He always reverts to TDS.
...and because overthinking leads to che vuoi... and "who" is "the other"... like my believing that it was "WH and USIC related" (all delusion) and not just a bunch of liberal political posters effing with me as revenge for Gore's defeat.
Well... you just not quite interested to know his opinion... maybe because of that?
the other che vuoi... is the 2nd order version.
No, I heard is "opinion" in a recent one hour YouTube interview. His "male default problem" argument. It's really quite a stupid premise.
Ah... yeah... heard it lately -- that manliness it's result of psychological trauma of infant boys -- that kind of stuff???
Yawn.
Here == I answer a pertinent question ==
I was asked in an interview: “I'd like to know - in the light of cultural and technological shifts - whether you feel your idea of sousveillance (of some years ago now) is still pertinent? If so, why so? How might total transparency fit into how we live today?”
Well, the lessons of history are pretty clear:
1. Humans are all (to various degrees) delusional and we defend our personal delusions fiercely.
2. Fortunately, in free, educated societies we don't tend to share the same delusions. And hence we learn by pointing out each others'. It's called reciprocal criticism. And any mature person knows that criticism is the only known antidote to error.
3. Alas, while it is the best tonic against error, human beings hate receiving criticism; we do what we can to avoid it. And hence for 10,000 years the kings and lords and priests who ran 99% of human cultures repressed critics with harsh force, by suppressing the freedom to know and to speak. Whereupon those feudal leaders enforced their delusions as law. With generally horrific results. (I just explained the litany of horrors called 'history.')
4. In a few times and places - e.g. classical Athens, Renaissance Florence, and our own recent enlightenment - freedom to speak and to know pierced a lot of nasty delusions (e.g. racial/sexual prejudice, classism, eugenics, communism, the Steady-State Cosmology) -- criticism which resulted in fantastic progress.
Much is said about freedom of speech. But the freedom to know involves much more than just education. It calls for citizens to see and perceive what delusions are being clutched by the mighty. And that can't happen if elites can go back to concealing all that they do.
There is a myth that seeking maximum openness will only advantage the mighty. That's opposite to true. They already can find out anything about you and me. But if we fill the world (mostly) with light, then sousveillance can shine reciprocal light on the mighty. Light forces the powerful to leave us alone. This isn't just an assertion. It is the fundamental basis for our civilization.
Isn't that it AMAZINGLY HILARIOUS... from someone who covering its ass from figural spanking... with wall of pre-moderated censure???? :-)))))
Maybe that is because that "trauma of manliness"??? :-)))))
Derpy's Big Brother... it is. ;-P
Ah... yeah... heard it lately -- that manliness it's result of psychological trauma of infant boys -- that kind of stuff???
Yawn.
I was thinking of his "male "strategy" to have to always sabotage other males so they can't get the girls" kinda stuff. He's obviously never heard of hypergamy, the female mating "strategy". It's typical Liberal mysogeny myths.
/Here == I answer a pertinent question ==
I was asked in an interview: “I'd like to know - in the light of cultural and technological shifts - whether you feel your idea of sousveillance (of some years ago now) is still pertinent? If so, why so? How might total transparency fit into how we live today?”
Well, the lessons of history are pretty clear:
1. Humans are all (to various degrees) delusional and we defend our personal delusions fiercely.
2. Fortunately, in free, educated societies we don't tend to share the same delusions. And hence we learn by pointing out each others'. It's called reciprocal criticism. And any mature person knows that criticism is the only known antidote to error.
3. Alas, while it is the best tonic against error, human beings hate receiving criticism; we do what we can to avoid it. And hence for 10,000 years the kings and lords and priests who ran 99% of human cultures repressed critics with harsh force, by suppressing the freedom to know and to speak. Whereupon those feudal leaders enforced their delusions as law. With generally horrific results. (I just explained the litany of horrors called 'history.')
4. In a few times and places - e.g. classical Athens, Renaissance Florence, and our own recent enlightenment - freedom to speak and to know pierced a lot of nasty delusions (e.g. racial/sexual prejudice, classism, eugenics, communism, the Steady-State Cosmology) -- criticism which resulted in fantastic progress.
Much is said about freedom of speech. But the freedom to know involves much more than just education. It calls for citizens to see and perceive what delusions are being clutched by the mighty. And that can't happen if elites can go back to concealing all that they do.
There is a myth that seeking maximum openness will only advantage the mighty. That's opposite to true. They already can find out anything about you and me. But if we fill the world (mostly) with light, then sousveillance can shine reciprocal light on the mighty. Light forces the powerful to leave us alone. This isn't just an assertion. It is the fundamental basis for our civilization.
Isn't that it AMAZINGLY HILARIOUS... from someone who covering its ass from figural spanking... with wall of pre-moderated censure???? :-)))))
Maybe that is because that "trauma of manliness"??? :-)))))
Yes, this is "Open Society" George Soros/ Karl Popper thinking. And of course a "scientist" would LOVE Karl Popper. It's also totally blind to some of the problems/ drawebacks inherent to "Second Order Observation". We should strap him into a chair Clockwork Orange/ Alex style and give him a reprogramming with the Ludovico Technique and films of whatever the opposite of a Byung-Chul Han seminar is. On the 9th and what's freaking Alex out.
Yes capturing authorities in abuse of power situations may be great... but turning individuals into 2nd order observers "selling themselves" as "influencers" is proving to be a disaster. All "charisma" is getting cast aside for "celebrity" (what David Brin relishes and the internet is transforming everyone into: wannabees).
Derpy's Big Brother... it is. ;-P
No Derpy's information model is hyping selective partisan leaks from the Government and the USIC. He's forever addicted to living the "WaterGate" Democrats good/ Republicans bad glory days. It's Big Brother/ Deep State to me. Derpy LOVES Big Brother.
\\ but turning individuals into 2nd order observers "selling themselves" as "influencers" is proving to be a disaster.
Proved by milenias of History...
of people living in tight societies.
Where that "transparency" was present from get go.
And was LOATHED so much... until technologies solved it WITH thick house walls, high electricized fences, airtight noiseproof windows.
So... now, in that horrifying self-inflicted silence... "civilised" schmuk WANT that all noise BACK...
ONLY... NOT all noise -- only THAT noise, that it'll like...
but Tech do not know how to fix that problem... just YET.
But it will SOLVE that problem...
So next "even more civilized" schmuk will be wanting something else... added, then removed again -- so that only PLEASANT would remain.
See.
Stanislav Lem is the Prophet. ;-)
\\Derpy's Big Brother... it is. ;-P
\\No Derpy's information model is hyping selective partisan leaks from the Government and the USIC.
Sorry.
I knew that that allusion would be seen here.
But I meant it as ordinary big brother. like Lion being Big Brother of a cat.
Depry -- small fish. And DiBi -- is a Big one. ;-P
But still... a brainless fish.
\\ but turning individuals into 2nd order observers "selling themselves" as "influencers" is proving to be a disaster.
/Proved by milenias of History...
of people living in tight societies.
Where that "transparency" was present from get go.
And was LOATHED so much... until technologies solved it WITH thick house walls, high electricized fences, airtight noiseproof windows.
So... now, in that horrifying self-inflicted silence... "civilised" schmuk WANT that all noise BACK...
ONLY... NOT all noise -- only THAT noise, that it'll like...
but Tech do not know how to fix that problem... just YET.
But it will SOLVE that problem...
So next "even more civilized" schmuk will be wanting something else... added, then removed again -- so that only PLEASANT would remain.
See.
Stanislav Lem is the Prophet. ;-)
Meden agan! Isn't music the silence between different noise frequencies? Are we listening to the noises, or the silences in-between for the "beauty" of it?
\\Derpy's Big Brother... it is. ;-P
\\No Derpy's information model is hyping selective partisan leaks from the Government and the USIC.
/Sorry.
I knew that that allusion would be seen here.
But I meant it as ordinary big brother. like Lion being Big Brother of a cat.
Depry -- small fish. And DiBi -- is a Big one. ;-P
But still... a brainless fish.
Ah, sorry. My Orwellian paranoia shining through, as usual. I getcha now. derpy:dibi::boy:big brother
btw - Are you familiar with Salvador Dali's "Paranoiac Critical Method"?
Does it drive all creative combinatory processes? Fear of being eaten by a predator?
...for the right hemisphere is always Building up the "whole" picture through visual inductive reasoning, and the left hemisphere breaks down the pieces for sound id and deductive reasoning...
btw - Prosopagnosia is a defect in the dominant/right visual processing - the combining of the two "mono" signals into it's additional "stereo" depth perception vs two "mono" tracks alone to yield direction of sound, or "distance" visually (not explained well). But its "related'.
\\Isn't music the silence between different noise frequencies? Are we listening to the noises, or the silences in-between for the "beauty" of it?
Hah.
Nothingness... is the true god of everything? ;-)
But... whatever.
That is just the same shamanism as in our ancient ancestors.
Do we not able to come up with something better?
\\Ah, sorry. My Orwellian paranoia shining through, as usual. I getcha now. derpy:dibi::boy:big brother
No.
That is only my blunder.
As foreigner... I destined to percepte symbols of foreign lang too literally.
\\Does it drive all creative combinatory processes? Fear of being eaten by a predator?
Different people. Different tricks.
It would be too boring... if it'll be all the same, how do you think?
\\Isn't music the silence between different noise frequencies? Are we listening to the noises, or the silences in-between for the "beauty" of it?
/Hah.
Nothingness... is the true god of everything? ;-)
But... whatever.
That is just the same shamanism as in our ancient ancestors.
Do we not able to come up with something better?
BBT? I don't know. Hesiod, "Theogeny"
THE COSMOGONY
[116] Verily at the first Chaos came to be, but next wide-bosomed Earth, the ever-sure foundations of all4 the deathless ones who hold the peaks of snowy Olympus, and dim Tartarus in the depth of the wide-pathed Earth, and Eros (Love), fairest among the deathless gods, who unnerves the limbs and overcomes the mind and wise counsels of all gods and all men within them. From Chaos came forth Erebus and black Night; but of Night were born Aether5 and Day, whom she conceived and bare from union in love with Erebus. And Earth first bare starry Heaven, equal to herself, to cover her on every side, and to be an ever-sure abiding-place for the blessed gods. And she brought forth long Hills, graceful haunts of the goddess-Nymphs who dwell amongst the glens of the hills. She bare also the fruitless deep with his raging swell, Pontus, without sweet union of love.
THE CASTRATION OF URANUS
[134] But afterwards she lay with Heaven and bare deep-swirling Oceanus, Coeus and Crius and Hyperion and Iapetus, Theia and Rhea, Themis and Mnemosyne and gold-crowned Phoebe and lovely Tethys. After them was born Cronos the wily, youngest and most terrible of her children, and he hated his lusty sire.
The birth of language and psychology...
\\Ah, sorry. My Orwellian paranoia shining through, as usual. I getcha now. derpy:dibi::boy:big brother
/No.
That is only my blunder.
As foreigner... I destined to percepte symbols of foreign lang too literally.
If you say so...
\\Does it drive all creative combinatory processes? Fear of being eaten by a predator?
/Different people. Different tricks.
It would be too boring... if it'll be all the same, how do you think?
Indeed.
\\BBT? I don't know. Hesiod, "Theogeny"
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\\The birth of language and psychology...
And rationality. ;-)
Belated child.
\\As foreigner... I destined to percepte symbols of foreign lang too literally.
\\If you say so...
Well... you can try doing it differently... with any foreign lang of your choice. ;-)
\\BBT? I don't know. Hesiod, "Theogeny"
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Big Bang Theory. Physics principle & also a tv show.
\\The birth of language and psychology...
/And rationality. ;-)
Belated child.
For who Latona (Apollo & Artemis), or the Lycean peasants?
\\As foreigner... I destined to percepte symbols of foreign lang too literally.
\\If you say so...
Well... you can try doing it differently... with any foreign lang of your choice. ;-)
La mierda, dices? ;)
For example
Unko - Dung culture in Japan - Suki Desu
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