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Thursday, January 11, 2024

Metamodernism - Confronting the Big Other's Public Narrative and Ripping Off Gyges' Cloak with "Alternate Facts & Interpretations"

68 comments:

Anonymous said...

Nothing new under the Moon. ;-)

Anonymous said...

pShaw tried to argue with me :-)))))))))))))))))))

Bu-ga-ga!



\\Blogger -FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\ Democrats surely must hate the principle of sovereign immunity...

For others, FJ. For others.

Other countries. Other people, not of their clade. Political opponents.

For them... there is "RULES"... that EVER changing, just to accommodate that "truth" that "Democracy always WIN!" -- but while, and ONLY while that subceptively mean "DEMNs always Right" -- funny, isn't it?



\\The multiple personality who put this in Comment Moderation is NOT a serious commenter.

You think it's possible to comment your DEMN social grooming here seriously?

Well, you DELETING such serious comment, anyway.

And disclosing only such tongue-in-chickque... to make laugh of it "see, what that MAGAtruds saying".

Do you think I don't get it? :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))

So -- YOU receiving EXACTLY what you deserving. ;-P



\\"-FJ," "Joe Conservative," "Thersites," "Foreigner," "Anonymous" is a disruptor who's not interested in facts.

HOW??? Can I be... when you ERADICATING any unpleasant to YOU facts on the stage of pre-moderation?

YOU... censuring out inconvenient to your clade facts... and then declaring "this MAGAts, they NOT interested in facts -- see!". :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))



\\"Obama should prosecuted[sic] for killing Osama." :-)))))" The emoticons are there to show he's only joking. But is he? Is he comparing the killing of the man who planned 9/11 that killed 3,000+ Americans

I'll remind you.

Question discussed was -- \\Blogger Dave Miller said...

\\ Today Former President Trump asserted in court that he "could order Seal Team 6 to assassinate a political rival and, if he had not first been impeached and convicted, would be immune from prosecution" forever.

And that was what Obama UNDENIABLY DID to Osama.

Well... you can point to "Osama was terrorist" all way down into rabbit hole.

But question discussed was -- "immune from prosecution" forever"".

What if some NEW information will arise? Or... Muslim Majority will introduce their POTUS... and will claim bin Laden a saint? Or... something. Just ANYTHING, will change?



\\contended in a court room that he could commit homicide against an opponent and not be charged if he were the POTUS?

You trying to IMPLY... that that "opponent" will be innocent -- why?
What if that'll be some terrorist? pedophil? treasonous insurrectionist?




\\If he were a commenter in good faith

Oh, shuddup. :-)))))))))))))))))

Don't make me laugh even more. (or not -- DO make... like with NOT disclosing THIS comment ;-P)

If you'd be a host in good faith...

well, but you cannot. Toom stupid. And that is not my mere words or name-calling.

You srupidity stems from that FACT -- that you thinking that IF you not disclosed this or that comment -- it SOMEHOW makes it impossible to make conclusions.

While -- it is QUITE OPPOSITE -- that comments you do NOT like to disclose -- telling ALL TRuTH about you.



\\But that's how those folks roll and get their jollies.

Oh??? Honestly???

And YOU do not do any such things? Or people from your fawning crowd?

Do not call people MAGAts and etc??? :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))



"If you living in a glass house -- do not throw stones"(c) :-)))))))))))))))))00

Anonymous said...

\\Blogger Shaw Kenawe said...

\\ Trump and his cultists surely must hate the principle "No one is above the law."

In accordance with WHICH law Obama killed Osama? Remind me, ple-e-e-ease.




\\Here he is bragging about ignoring the Emoluments Clause:

\\"On Fox News, Trump is asked about the report that his businesses profited over $8 million from foreign governments including China while he was president. He said that is such a small amount of money and “I was doing services for them … I don’t get $8 million for doing nothing!”

Eeeeeh??? He should be doing it FOR FREE???

Or for some tit-for-tat?



\\ The Foreign Emoluments Clause (art. I, § 9, cl. 8):
“[N]o Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under
[the United States], shall, without the Consent of the
Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or
Title, of any kind

And HOW Commercial Profit is ANYTHING of that list???


PS Go! Not disclose this perfectly factual arguments. To prove how you DEMN scarred of FACTS.

Anonymous said...

\\Blogger Dave Miller said...

\\ But what's your point? You have no opinion on Trump's changing understanding of the law?

Does he?

Well... (to shortcut that moot discussion) EVEN if he'd do.

There is:"The Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution protects the accused from being forced to incriminate themselves in a crime. The Amendment reads: No person ... shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself ..."

BUT... what YOU want of him, is admission "Yes, there is such a law. And I admit infringing it", isn't it?

HE.

NOW.

Just a miserly private person. (well, not that miserly... but that only adds injury to an insult -- see how?)

Which need to fight UNEQUAL battle against GOVERNMENT machine.



\\Blogger -FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

\\ You have no opinion on Trump's changing understanding of the law?

\\ You mean challenging neoliberal legal theory and providing actual case law?

MORE then just any law.

HUMAN RIGHTS instilled as MOST BASIC principles of Constitution of USA. As I showed just above.

That just show -- how ANTI-human-rights DEMNs are. Means -- totalitarian. Because that is totalitarians are ones who DENY people their Undeniable Human Rights.



\\Blogger Shaw Kenawe said...

\\ The above is -FJ's fancy way of saying any Trumpublican can break the law and get away with it.

What part of definition of Presumption of Innocence -- it is a cardinal principle of our system of justice that every person accused of a crime is presumed to be innocent unless and until his or her guilt is established beyond a reasonable doubt -- you do not get???



\\Trump is an outstandingly stupid human being.

Never the less... he WAS POTUS. ;-P

That means that even "outstandingly stupid human being" CAN BE one.

And if it happened once, it CAN happen twice too. (well, like all previous was too bright)

And if he'd DO... you'd be forced to follow his orders. Or what? You'd commit a treason and will rise an insurrection against him? ;-P

Don't think so.

DAMNs are never where their mouth is.




\\Blogger Dave Miller said...

\\ My new New Year's Resolution is to not respond directly to the anon, -FJ, Joe, foreigner group of folks unless they choose to give up their freedom to just blather and instead, seriously consider the issues and posit some solutions.

To do YOUR homework instead of you?

Pft! :-)))))))))))))))))))


Anonymous said...



\\Blogger Shaw Kenawe said...

\\ Well, then -FJ, you'll agree that if Joe Biden got "rid" of Trump before the 2024 election, (or any sitting POTUS's opponents before any election) he would not face any criminal accountability? Never mind Joe Biden, how about ANY POTUS getting rid of his rivals?

And what all that "indictment" ARE???

If not a miserly try to achieve exactly that?

Can you be HONEST? Even once? Even inside your OWN mind?

Don't think so. :-)))))))))))))))))



\\Sovereign immunity? Just what Putin does, eh? Where's Navalny? He was transferred last month to a “special regime” penal colony — the highest security level of prisons in Russia — above the Artic Circle.

THAT'S IT, Shaw. THAT'S IT.



\\Blogger Shaw Kenawe said...

\\ The above is a good example of paranoia and how a conspiracist thinks.

Shaw Kenawe MADE AN OUTSTANDING discovery!

That Ancient Latins who dewised "Qui Prodest?"... was "conspiracist".

:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

PS And you trying to tell me that I NEED to treat you as serious opponent??? Really???????!!! :-)))))))))))))))))))))))




\\The Radical Strategy Behind Trump’s Promise to ‘Go After’ Biden

\\Conservatives with close ties to Donald J. Trump are laying out a “paradigm-shifting” legal rationale to erase the Justice Department’s independence from the president.

"Those who sows wind.... will reap tempest"(c)




\\The indictments brought against Donald Trump were delivered by grand juries consisting of ordinary Americans -- conservative and liberal-- AFTER THEY HEARD EVIDENCE, lots of evidence of Trump's ALLEGED involvement in crimes.

Whatever.

It's the same as with Navalny up here -- it is NOT BIG problem to falsify accusations against ANYONE.

ESPECIALLY, if that one have government powers at his disposal.

THAT'S WHY Constitution of USA is First and FOREMOST are about Protection of Individual from Government.

But... DEMNs like to postpone Constitution. And all protection of any individual. And introduce Totalitarian rule.



\\Your claim that President Biden ordered the DoJ to go after Trump has no basis in fact, and, as usual, you provide not one shred of evidence to back it up.

Polishinele's Secret need some ADDITONAL evidances?



\\You're here just to stir up anger and, IMO, demonstrate your paranoia and willingness to accept conspiracies without critical thinking.

Yeah.

Go declare anybody who doubt Holy Bi-den and DEMN-Ok-ratsy insane -- and deserving being placed in asylum.

As they did in Soviet Union.



-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

She lost THAT argument... :)


\\Your claim that President Biden ordered the DoJ to go after Trump has no basis in fact, and, as usual, you provide not one shred of evidence to back it up.

Polishinele's Secret need some ADDITONAL evidances?



Proof he even authorized state prosecutors to go after Trump.

Anonymous said...

It is much easier to number what arguments she NOT lost. :-)))

I think it's something about Stone Cold Zero... but, maybe you saw such a rarity? (like I was admitting some Very Rare Admitting Simplest and Undeniable of Facts -- which is Exception that confirms Rule, ONLY)

Joe Conservative said...
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Joe Conservative said...

More proof.

Anonymous said...

Well... it wasted on me. I do not need such proofs. What for?

That is not I that DEMN-imbecile who do not like to know Polishinelle's Secrets-s-s... ;-P

I watching new(?) series now. "Designated Survivor".

All like USAians like -- all treasons, all terrorisms, all crimes... turned to 11. :-))))

Joe Conservative said...

I started watching it in Season 1 but stopped after a bit. Politics is becoming irrelevant. Power today is administered through algorithms and access, not the politicians. In 2024, we all live in Brazil.

Anonymous said...

Well... at least you know name for your disease. :-/

Anonymous said...

Well... more important is court in Hague shameless trial against "genocide of Gazans". :-((((

Joe Conservative said...

The ICJ is a joke. So are all UN Institutions. Real Politics is "might makes right".

Joe Conservative said...

...not bureaucratic bodies w/o armies.

Anonymous said...

Modern army -- IS MOST bureaucratic organization. ;-P

Anonymous said...

;-P

Anonymous said...

IT... not disclosed it.

Means -- IT KNOWS DEMN well, how SELF-revealing and unbearable... it would be. ;-P

Anonymous said...

pShaw's meltdown. :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))

I. Salute to you!


\\There are real and justifiable Constitutional concerns on whether or not Trump, who incited an insurrection against the US, IS eligible to even be on the ballot.

BS.

If there'd be ANY REAL justification. He'd already be in jail.

Now. It just a political technology to smear him in feces, to win election.

SAME as it was described in seminal text of Mark Twain "How I runned for Governor".




\\No more of that claptrap will get published here.

Yeah.

CENSURE, CENSURE, CENSURE OUT... ANY unpleasant FACTS and conclusion!

That is ONLY way how DEMNs can win.





\\That "is" because you're uninformed. And probably willfully so. When your only source of "news" is FAUX NOOZ and the Gateway Pundit, it's no wonder that you don't know what you're talking about:


\\"The Colorado high court upheld a finding by a district court judge that Jan. 6 was an “insurrection” incited by Trump.

AND...

CIRCULAR REASONING!


While just ABOVE you was mumbling:""Blogger Shaw Kenawe said...

The Colorado case is pending. He’s not off the ballot.
""

SO??? Is it "pending"??? Or is it "true"???



PS And you WILL NOT disclose this comment.
Because.
You are so miserly and stooopid. :-))))))))))))))))))

Anonymous said...

YET OTHER meltdown. And spectacular one. :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))0



\\Blogger Joe "Truth 101" Kelly said...

\\ Please do better. I am more than capable of debate on any level.

HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!!!!!!

You. EVEN MORE rediculous then I have thought -- DELETED even own blog. :-))))))))))))))))))))))0


That is... how you are *OPEN* to debates. :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))


Yep.

While it is possible to DELETE opponent's comment at will. Or somebody else ready to do that for you. :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))

DEMNs... are SO OPENLY totalitarian. :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))0

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

pShaw's panties are in a wad AGAIN! :)

Anonymous said...

(Derpy mode on)

No.

That is MAGA-trampturd's poop... in our DEMN pant... ies. :-)))))))))))))))

Anonymous said...

Watched funny movie just now.

Shadow in the cloud.

NewZealanders... outleaped EVEN your Hollywood... :-)))) in it.

Joe Conservative said...

...it doesn't sound very original...

Anonymous said...

Buggs is male. ;-)

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Ahhhh! You must work for Disney!

Anonymous said...

it's such a big news for you? ;-)

Joe Conservative said...

Get with the DEI program... nostalgia sells! Now when are they recasting Ironman?

Anonymous said...

Ironwoman? :-)))

First... they MUST make use of Spider Woman. ;-)

Thersites said...

Black Widow? ;)

Anonymous said...

Zatana ;-P

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

DC not Marvel universe... ;)

Anonymous said...

Mar Vel? ;-P

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

You know your diegesis....

Anonymous said...

Hardly...

Not my cup of tea.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

I'm more a "Lord of the Rings" world kinda guy....

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

...but with invading space aliens. ;P

Anonymous said...

Silmarillion. ;-P

Joe Conservative said...

:)

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

...another book I had a hard time reading... and never made it through. The diegesis of LOR...

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Okay, more a Dune/ Frank Herbert kinda guy... or an Asimov Foundation kinda guy.

Anonymous said...

\\...another book I had a hard time reading... and never made it through. The diegesis of LOR...

Might be because it was in English...



\\Okay, more a Dune/ Frank Herbert kinda guy...

All of it?

Like Children of Dune and etc?



\\or an Asimov Foundation kinda guy.

So... you know how it ended? ;-)

Joe Conservative said...

Children, God Emperor...

I actually started with Children. I was on a ship and there was a copy in the Officer's lounge. I read Dune after getting back to the States... Messiah, Chronicles later (but not memorable)

Anonymous said...

Unstable Fables... that is.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Yeah. It had a much more loosely constructed diegesis.

Anonymous said...

That's why I prefer to observe ALL sci-fi.

Different authors. Different texts.

And ideas... first of all.

Though, modern sci-fi... stagnating.

For a reason.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

...it must follow the Science (also stagnating).

Anonymous said...

Naaah. Not at all.

How many new bright scientific discoveries was made... since time of "starships and blasters" classic.

And???

There is "prediction horizon"... the way as there was sonic barrier.

Which need profound changes in our society, in ways we perceive Reality. And ourself.

But we... don't want it. Homeostasis is TOO powerful in us. And making us to oppose that changes...

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Dreams/ delusions of "purposefulness"... the "imaginary" component to our consciously created and symbolically infused reality.

Anonymous said...

No.

I don't see it. :-((((((

And if my words/ideas look the same fuzzy to you -- I lost. :-((((

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

I was referring to SciFi...

Doesn't the postulated hypothesis for a scientific experiment precede its execution/ confirmation/ realization?

Trouble is... it requires a new "postulate" or two, to be put together, first.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

An a priori to generate an a posteriori

Anonymous said...

\\Trouble is... it requires a new "postulate" or two, to be put together, first.

Dunno where you took it from...

Well... it need "physical picture". Or "thought experiment", as Einstein have taught us.

But most experiments... are not that ground-breaking.

They just usual process of "sowing wheat from chaff".

Or extraction of rare metal from raw material.


Technology.

Anonymous said...

I have (very little, so no biggy) experience... of observing that... from within. ;-)

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

That a satellite can capture a rare event (ie - magnetic reconnection) by flying in a certain orbit, for a certain period. That we can invent and build an instrument (or suite of instruments) that can capture and measure that event from Level 1 Science requirements.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

You've seen the "aurora borealis". That's an "effect" of magnetic reconnection.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

...it was built upon many other observations as well. Like discovery of the van Allen belts. My first NASA mission was part of the Explorers Program that discovered them.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

...but I joined in '93... for the ACE mission. That's when I met Ed Stone, our Principle Investigator (PI) and Center Director of NASA's Jet Propulsion Labs (JPL) and most of the CO-Is.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Postulating an hypothesis...

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

...and building upon them.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Inconceivable!

I know, I don't think I know what the word means...

Anonymous said...

There is much truth to this statement by Kurt Lewin, as a good theory helps to describe our observations, provides a potential explanation for how or why things work, and stimulates research.

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Anonymous said...

But... there is FEW... who really can do that.

And their ability -- not universal.

That is -- most closer and deeply known to me experience... as one who tried to devise theory or two. ;-P

Anonymous said...

Another word.

Concocting a theory -- is the same are technology.

Still not very good developed, though... :-)

Anonymous said...

\\Inconceivable!

Heh.

That's exactly what Einstain said:
""Albert Einstein's Curiosity Inspires 'Question Week'
GovTech
https://www.govtech.com › ...
"It's not that I'm so smart," Einstein said. "But I stay with the questions much longer." Question Week celebrates the power of a question, and ...


Or what Feynman said about asking/answering questions.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

...ah, dialectic. ;)

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

...walking your way around the Mobius strip.

Anonymous said...

Dunno... :-(