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Saturday, April 19, 2025

Palantir, from the Outside

The New Society of Control
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59 comments:

zwaremetalen-239 said...

Thiel is possibly the most anti-statist person on the planet. Yet he's peddling software designed to keep various oligarchic potentates in power. Work that one out...

'Palantir, now with super AI powers!'

Luvvlyjubbly!

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

He's a NatCon, which is kind of like a NeoCon, but with a more limited scope (America) instead of "global". He even created a "society" around it with Vance.

With Palantir, it'll be all about controlling "access" to information. Without the right bona fides, you won't get past Palantir's "gates". A Kafka "Before the Law" situation.

Anonymous said...

Hah, then HAH again. ;-p

He is one of burgious, as commi would say.

He IS part of The System. System which makes him rich. And powerfool.;-p

And miserly naked monkeys... we SO bent on being hungry of... POWER.:-))))

That's what our benevolent (cause allowing miserly anons to speak freely here) snarking at me rightfoolly -- for being hungry of power too.:-)

Anonymous said...

//-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA JewApril 6, 2025 at 1:01 PM
I think it's important to understand the route biology took before attempting to develop a non-biological mechanical equivalent going forward. If self-assembly is going to be required, this needs to be established at the foundational level. Eukaryotes with Archeae accompanied with a foundational algorithm


You still under influance of cultural illusions.

Yawn.

Idea that there is well-separated branches of knowlage. Anti-holistic, anti-systemic views.

Yawn

Anonymous said...

//-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA JewApril 6, 2025 at 1:29 PM
Every assembly a "desiring" machine, every desiring machine addressing the problem it needs ( & desires) to solve. Every desiring machine given the information and tools needed to solve the problem, and every desiring machine communicating its' desires (and frustration- aka distress) to symbiotic desiring machines that can understand and respond (or not) to that distress.

Yap.

An illusion.

Based on NOT knowing programing enough. That simething like that -- possible.

Such well-separated. Well-observable. Well-understandable -- top to the bottom. Structures.

Yawn.

Anonymous said...

//-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA JewApril 8, 2025 at 9:29 AM
lol! We need faster and faster computers because the code gets ever sloppier and less efficient.

Blame the slow development on copyright and patent law. Only in "war" do those restrictions go out the window and innovators go full Shanzhai!


You ARE out of sync.... with Reality.

Well, not a big sin. We all ARE.

Yawn.

I just synced myself -- came into computers selling shop -- same prices, same products... as nearly 10 years ago as I cared to check it out last time.

Yawn.

Progress ACTUALLY stopped, dude.

Yawn.

Anonymous said...

//-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA JewApril 7, 2025 at 7:19 PM
It's hard to sell a "purposeless" design effort, easy to sell one 'with" a purpose. The former is also much more dangerous, as you can't be sure that your "purposeless purpose" will be fulfilled in any expected fashion. Especially if they self-assemble and form larger IIT groupings (von Neuman machine)


That's bullocks.

Yawn.

What is purpose of current society built around smartphones and socnets???

There isn't!

That's just an INERTIA of previous development in electronics and programing.

Yawn.

Anonymous said...

And... of course, my idea lacks such inertia to back it up and to push it forward. As it is NEW thing. And NEED TO drill through miuntains of bullocks of inertia of all previous ideas.

That's it.

Yawn.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

I don't deny the bias.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

It's hard to live in the categoryless rhizome without becoming a schizophrenic.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

They're required, as no solution can emerge from the system describing it.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

It's "relativity".

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

stochastic vs deterministic

the subconscious is rhizomic and loosely affinitized (anti-structural)... the conscious is hierarchical/ categorical... structuralized (Structuralism).

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

"I am"... a fictional categorized structural artifact.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

EVERYTHING is an "illusion".

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Then try selling a new on without a purpose.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Then get with the new Assembly theorists, Constructor theorists, and Information Theorists.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

"Organs without bodies" The "system" (body) is a collection of those purposeful organs.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Has the human body systems "evolution" stopped? Or merely on "pause' awaiting the merger of a new virus/ bacteria to free it from some current limitation.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

...and design the drill.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

...*yawn*

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

erratum - Integrated Information Theory (IIT) above

Anonymous said...

//Then get with the new Assembly theorists, Constructor theorists, and Information Theorists.

Sorry.
I'm still foreigner. And still have big problem with such idiomatic talks...

What that "get with" should mean? Like "send em to Hell"? ;-p

Anonymous said...

Evolution -- is not a phenomena.

That is just an illusion of our monkey brains.

Yawn.

(more advanced comment was eaten by Ctulchu ;-p)

Anonymous said...

//It's hard to live in the categoryless rhizome without becoming a schizophrenic.

Hah.

//EVERYTHING is an "illusion".

Yet one HAH. ;-p

Then you typing your answer over illusory keyboard, while sitting in a psychiatric clinic.

And I am just a figment of your imagination. ;-p

Anonymous said...

//They're required, as no solution can emerge from the system describing it.

???

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

ask Godel about his Incompleteness Theorum

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Phenomenologically... yes. I still think you're an NSA AI.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

"Get with" means adopt some of their concepts. You reject everything as "incomplete" Mr. Godel. Conscious thought required hierarchies, not just subconscious rhizomic meanderings (flows) of desire.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Take the best (from each) and leave the rest.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

And funnel those flows into a purposeful "channel"

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Cthulhu knows best.

And its' a process of IIT (probably).

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

A body is an interdependent organ collective with a structural exterior to protect it from invasion.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

There is no hardware, only software.... @@

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

RNA is the DNA that an organ needs to function. String THEM all together and you get a history of organelle collectivizations (DNA)

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

into a larger "body".

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Bottom Up, NOT top down.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Assemblies.

Anonymous said...

//You reject everything...

Where???

It's in your habit here.

I just say: "It, will not work".That's all.

Anonymous said...

//A body is an interdependent organ collective with a structural exterior to protect it from invasion.

That's just our antropocentric illusion.

Yawn.

Anonymous said...

:-)))))))))

Anonymous said...

That is YOUR interpretation, not his.

He was talking about FORMAL systems.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Each piece (on its' own) will not work. Blend parts of them together.... who knows. I think that there are some good ideas there.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Maybe instead of of pointing out what you dislike about their theories, you might point out the parts you partially agree with so that I can understand where your head is.

Joe Conservative said...

:P

Joe Conservative said...

Nietzsche challenged the traditional notion of truth, arguing that it's not a fixed, objective reality, but rather a human creation shaped by perspective and power dynamics. He suggested that "truth" is often used as a tool to enforce a particular point of view or power structure. Instead of seeking an absolute truth, Nietzsche emphasized the importance of "will to power" and the creation of meaning, rather than the discovery of pre-existing truth.

The "alchemy" of truth... how much power is required to sustain it.

Joe Conservative said...

How useful is a truth to me? Should I modify it to suit some new circumstance. The truth learned by the catepillar brain is melted during metamorphosis. How now does the butterfly re-interpret the truth? Is the butterfly's food, as the catelipillar's, always "green" (or a trained blue)?

Joe Conservative said...

Plato, "Cratylus"

Whether there is this eternal nature in things, or whether the truth is what Heracleitus and his followers and many others say, is a question hard to determine; and no man of sense will like to put himself or the education of his mind in the power of names: neither will he so far trust names or the givers of names as to be confident in any knowledge which condemns himself and other existences to an unhealthy state of unreality; he will not believe that all things leak like a pot, or imagine that the world is a man who has a running at the nose. This may be true, Cratylus, but is also very likely to be untrue;

Anonymous said...

Long as decided -- only Reality itself can decide, can reveal, can show what are The Truth, and what is not.

Like just recently -- most widespread and audacious -- is Trump a "nasty felon"? Or still ex- and gonna be again -- POTUS?

I think you must take into account such possibility. ;-p

Thersites said...

Like language or math. Is that why you can't describe your Ovo? Does a description require a physical chemical transfer?

Thersites said...

A uniquely folded protein?

Thersites said...

Animal cells don't have cell walls? Their bodies don't have skin? Batteries don't need casings? Open systems don't experience entropy? Who knew?

Life is a chemical System that uses energy to keep itself from reaching chemical equilibrium. Equilibrium is the situation in which chemicals no longer have a tendency to react over time.

Thersites said...

A self-replicating mitochondria?

Thersites said...

erratum- It's a cell that's "missing" a central nucleus organelle containing the animals complete DNA. They only contain organellar DNA (mitochondrial and chloroplasts/ plants).

Thersites said...

"Power" will decide, either way. It's alchemy not science.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Autopoietic

Anonymous said...

Yeah. Kissing Hank's ass.

)))

Anonymous said...

//Like language or math.

And how language are firmal??? %)))

Anonymous said...

???